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Title: Sequence Breaker
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 09, 09:15 AM 2011
Now, I know the wheel and the ball have no respect for what we as humans see as patterns, but I was thinking about patterns that could be rare, and yet still playable.

Has anybody ever seen 5 doubles of different dozens/columns?

As in:

DZ 1
DZ 1
DZ 3
DZ 3
DZ 1
DZ 1
DZ 2
DZ 2
DZ 3
DZ 3

Now at first, betting must always commence after one virtual loss, which doesn't take long, just wait for one repeating dozen.

My first idea was then wait and see what the next dozen is. For example:

1
1 < virtual loss
2  < so now bet on dozens 1,3 to try and break the pattern.
2  < first loss
2  < This is what screwed up the idea, as I have seen groups of doubles, trips and quads go in patterns of 5.

What I wanted was to stop just one pattern from developing and that is 5 lots of consecutive double dozens.

So then I thought:

1
1  <virtual loss
2  <bet 1,3
2  <Loss, so now, we bet dozen 2 solo in an effort to break the sequence!
2  <win

If it had gone:

1
1   <virtual loss
2   <bet 1,3
2   <bet dozen 2
3   <loss, now bet 1,2
1   <win!

The only problem is a progression because really you are betting 2 doz, 1 doz, 2 doz, 1 doz etc.

Any clever guys have a prog idea for this one? Much appreciated

BW
Title: Re: Sequence Breaker
Post by: warrior on Feb 09, 09:26 AM 2011
BW.there is no pro. that can help its the leveller or marty .
Title: Re: Sequence Breaker
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 09, 09:27 AM 2011
Quote from: warrior on Feb 09, 09:26 AM 2011
BW.there is no pro. that can help its the leveller or marty .

What I was thinking was running two seperate progressions

One for the 2 doz bet and the other for the 1 doz bet

Both only need to be 4 levels high to cover all 8 bets if you get what i mean
Title: Re: Sequence Breaker
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 09, 10:22 AM 2011
1
1   virtual loss
2   bet 1 unit on dz 1,3
2   loss   -2...bet 1 unit on dz 2
3   loss   -3...bet 3 units on dz 1,2
3   loss   -9...bet 2 units on dz 3
2   loss   -11...bet 9 units on dz 1,3
1   win    -2

So we have 2 seperate progs 

1,3,9,27 & 1,2,3,4

The above example is quite a tough session and obviously the sequence will be broken many times before that stage but to illustrate how it fares

How does it look?

BW 
Title: Re: Sequence Breaker
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 09, 10:52 AM 2011
Here's the overall win/loss on each level of the progression, which I have tweaked a little. I will test this and see how it goes

1
1
2
W +1       bet 1u on 2 dozens
W  0        bet 1u on 1 dozen
W  0        bet 3u on 2 dozens
W  -3       bet 3u on 1 dozen
W  -2       bet 9u on 2 dozens
W  -18     bet 6u on 1 dozen
W  -9       bet 27u on 2 dozens

Total needed = 90u
Title: Re: Sequence Breaker
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 09, 01:00 PM 2011
Session of 140 spins

+6, didn't go beyond the 3rd prog. level

BW
Title: Re: Sequence Breaker
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 09, 03:31 PM 2011
130 spin session

+3
Title: Re: Sequence Breaker
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 09, 03:34 PM 2011
90 spin session

+3

Heven't gone further than 4th level yet (-3 bet)
Title: Re: Sequence Breaker
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 09, 03:39 PM 2011
165 spin session

+6
Title: Re: Sequence Breaker
Post by: GLC on Feb 10, 12:10 AM 2011
Quote from: buffalowizard on Feb 09, 09:15 AM 2011

The only problem is a progression because really you are betting 2 doz, 1 doz, 2 doz, 1 doz etc.

Any clever guys have a prog idea for this one? Much appreciated

BW

BW,

Here's a suggestion you might like to consider.  I'm thinking of trying it with the vertical matrix method.

Have a separate progression for each dozen.  Just use a regular martingale for dozens.  1-1-2-3-4-6-9-14-21-31-47 etc... for as far as you want to go.

Anytime you bet a dozen, you bet the next step in it's martingale.  Once a dozen loses, you reset it to 1 and start over.

Any time you reach a new high, you can reset all of the dozens or keep playing until all of the dozens are fairly low on their progressions at which time you should be well ahead and you can just end play.

Another progression you can use for each dozen instead of a martingale is a penthouse type progression. 1-1-2-2-3-3-4-4-5-5-6-6-7-7-8-8etc...  One step to the right for each loss, 2 steps to the left for each win.  Or a little safer 1-1-1-2-2-2-3-3-3-4-4-4-5-5-5-6-6-6etc.

This helps keep the bets smaller losing steaks but can still give you a reasonable win ratio.  The killer is if one of the dozens doesn't hit for a lot of spins, it can overwhelm the other 2 dozens when betting with them.

Just some ideas.

George
Title: Re: Sequence Breaker
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 10, 03:50 AM 2011
Smart idea george,

Although I am really liking this so far, I know that the pattern could and would hit eventually, maybe not to me, but maybe so!

I will run some tests using your advice. Thanks a lot

Buffalo
Title: Re: Sequence Breaker
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 10, 04:15 AM 2011
So using standard 12 number marty would look like this

7
11     
10     
    21
    3
26     
29       
    1         
    36        +1 doz 3   -1 doz 2
    23
22     
    34
8             +3 doz 1     -1 doz 3
13     
    27
8     
    1
17         
28          +3 doz 3    -2 doz 2
4     
     18
    1
    32
13     
    3
15     
20     
    34
15          +3 doz 2   -1 doz 1