We can see some new systems everyday. There are few guys in our and all other forums who can write a technique of playing roulette almost daily. However, very few of them are playable and winners in real situation playing. There are some systems which have thousands of viewers and hundreds of replies.
A big questions: Which one is the most playable in real circumstances and can win in most diverse conditions without risking too much?
Please come forward with your experience with them in testings and real play and rate the best system/systems you have ever read on our/any other forum. Our motive is to pick the best ones amongst thousands scattered all over. Good luck.
Excellent thread :thumbsup:
I hope it takes off as a very valuable resource for us all.
There are 254 topics/systems in the section "Full System" of our forum itself, apart from notepad and various other sections containing different systems. 800 topic are under "Full Roulette systems" of old vls, apart from various other sections containing various systems. GG, rouletteforum.net, casinomeister and other forums do have many systems to read and download. Can someone please point out the best with the reason for considering that as the best?
Will someone please come forward and enlighten all?
how about coding all systems into one monster .. and crunch down the most bet number percent wise..
ie.. all bets combined will reveal a favorite number .. wich then will be played ?? :twisted:
Well,
even if we combine all methods of the world, we can't predict with full accuracy. My question is not that. I want to see the best input by any member of any roulette forum which is practically playable as a winner method.
Understandable key points,but isnt it kind of bit like holy grail talk,mean its not always the system that wins lots other variables consider ie the actual player,bankroll,progessions,etc stating the obvious here. But what are the conditions play for most playable sytem?
Example simple 4 spins to win method had 60 live wheel sessions going strong yet
its wouldnt believe it to be the holy grail and at times I don't follow it completely. However like a lot systems Another person may download it and may tank everytime they go on particular casino etc.
I was interested in the promised constant winning bet when 1st came on the forum.
But it goes completely over my head trying to understand it. Wether that's combination
of terminology used or lack of roulette knowledge. Or that its got more than one way
to play it. No offence to the system seems to complicated for me to get.
All systems have ther own pro's and con's so think got helluva a challenge on hands to pick
most playable system ever written in forum/any forum? in my opinion.Good Luck!
Cheers
The first requisite for success is the ability to apply your physical and mental energies to one problem incessantly without growing weary.
Thomas Edison
No preachings please. I am asking a straight question and want straight answers only. Which one is the most playable method ever written in any of the roulette forums?
Quote from: albalaha on Feb 16, 02:05 AM 2011
No preachings please. I am asking a straight question and want straight answers only. Which one is the most playable method ever written in any of the roulette forums?
The King System. :thumbsup:
Dear Furple,
Please no jokes. My King system has never been discussed upon any of the rouletteforums. There has to be atleast one method on these forums which would have impressed you very much.
Quote from: Cornelious on Feb 15, 09:58 AM 2011
Understandable key points,but isnt it kind of bit like holy grail talk,mean its not always the system that wins lots other variables consider ie the actual player,bankroll,progessions,etc stating the obvious here. But what are the conditions play for most playable sytem?
Example simple 4 spins to win method had 60 live wheel sessions going strong yet
its wouldnt believe it to be the holy grail and at times I don't follow it completely. However like a lot systems Another person may download it and may tank everytime they go on particular casino etc.
I was interested in the promised constant winning bet when 1st came on the forum.
But it goes completely over my head trying to understand it. Wether that's combination
of terminology used or lack of roulette knowledge. Or that its got more than one way
to play it. No offence to the system seems to complicated for me to get.
All systems have ther own pro's and con's so think got helluva a challenge on hands to pick
most playable system ever written in forum/any forum? in my opinion.Good Luck!
Cheers
My dear friend,
Nothing complicated about PCWB,and believe me it is only lack of roulette knowledge.
To be true real winner you must work hard to achieve it and without complete knowledge of roulette wheel and the layout and its connection.....so I wish you luck,and am sure you will find and achieve it on this forum.
Just showing contrast example between 2 different systems ways in reference to most playable system . No pun intended friend from my standpoint found my winning method .
Glad found yours.
My mindset is when sit down to play I expect to win and I do. 126 percent return on my
bankroll can't be bad maybe just lucky. Many people who have habit throwing quotes around.Maybe a weary one will need the quote. I apply knowledge and hard work that's why am lucky to have an abundance success in my life. Keep winning!
I fully appreciate what your saying F_LAT_INO thanks.
Cheers
@ Albahala. Winkel's Great Universal Theory is a contender.
link:://rouletteforum.cc/full-systems/winkel's-great-universal-theory-(g-u-t)/ (link:://rouletteforum.cc/full-systems/winkel's-great-universal-theory-(g-u-t)/)
I think my system is the best.
its not in the forum but it works well.
i think my system is better then every other system here, say what you will, for me it is.
Quote from: darrynf on Feb 17, 12:22 AM 2011
I think my system is the best.
its not in the forum but it works well.
i think my system is better then every other system here, say what you will, for me it is.
Why don't you reveal it mate?????
This is a sharing community and it seems you aren't part of it,therefore
if I would be asked I would send you where you come from mate,especially
after your comments in Winkel thread.
EDIT BY ADMIN:
darrynf, Either share your System or keep quiet about it. don't bait us.
Thanks,
Proof and F_lat for ur inputs. Winkel's GUT can really be a contender for this no doubt. Can you write the reasons for thinking this to be the best and most playable with profit. Would u mind sharing ur experiences with it? Do u urself play this?
Well two things: GUT can be played on both Live Wheel and RNG and it is a flat betting strategy.
Dear Proof,
I know you are a veteran and serious debater. would you mind sharing your practical experiences with this system for the benefit of entire forum? If u consider is most playable and winning method, you must be using it urself also.
Well, I was heavy into GUT three years ago and from my experience it worked on the RNG (Microgaming) quite well (back when they allowed American residents to join). If you can find a wheel that will allow 0.01 or 0.10 per number then it is perfect.
Well, at $1/number you will need at least $250 (that's why I recommended 0.10 or 0.01 per number wheels). Your goal would be two hits or +20% of original bankroll and a stoploss would be 50% of bankroll.
What about PCWM of F_lat INO? It is the most viewed and discussed method ever in our forum. Anybody has to say his personal experiences on it?
Quote from: albalaha on Feb 17, 10:56 AM 2011
What about PCWM of F_lat INO? It is the most viewed and discussed method ever in our forum. Anybody has to say his personal experiences on it?
Hi Al.
I think its more commonly known throughout the forum as CWB (Consistant Winning Bet)
I really like CWB.
At times, it can work like a dream, and at others...............it fails. Its not the H.G.
Tho having said that, If I go to new casino, for first time,
I will ALWAYS start my session off with the CWB tracker (Nod to Ophis)..
I usually also run the LETWin tracker,
side by side with CWB, since LETWin gives U a bet placement after just 3 spun numbers.
CWB can sometimes take 37+ spins* for the tracker to come up with a splits bet suggestion.
(*depends on spin results, Tracker rules, and how the wheel is playing)
Quote from: chrisbis on Feb 18, 02:15 PM 2011
Hi Al.
I think its more commonly known throughout the forum as consistent winning bet (Consistant Winning Bet)
I really like consistent winning bet.
At times, it can work like a dream, and at others...............it fails. Its not the H.G.
Tho having said that, If I go to new casino, for first time,
I will ALWAYS start my session off with the consistent winning bet tracker (Nod to Ophis)..
I usually also run the LETWin tracker,
side by side with consistent winning bet, since LETWin gives you a bet placement after just 3 spun numbers.
consistent winning bet can sometimes take 37+ spins* for the tracker to come up with a splits bet suggestion.
(*depends on spin results, Tracker rules, and how the wheel is playing)
This morning had a 5 hours session--airball-and won 340 chips with
CWB......but playing only furthest and recents/strict rules/....so whenever you spot it
bet on it,and if these both are due to bet stay on recents until it changes,then go to furthest./color]
And Chrisy boy,
Tray 1up oN L
1 down on W
AND SINCE YOU HAVE 5/4 BET THERE IS ADVANTAGE IN YOUR FAVOUR.
how do you know what the coldest number is when you play an airball ?
I wanted to ask you if you have seen the same number hit twice in 37 spins and how often it hits.
only if you have notice, i asked winkel but hes not on yet.
Quote from: darrynf on Feb 18, 03:23 PM 2011
I wanted to ask you if you have seen the same number hit twice in 37 spins and how often it hits.
only if you have notice, I asked winkel but he's not on yet.
[/quote
On airball there is lot of repeats of all kinds.
my question is
you never see 37 numbers come out in 37 spins
could this hold true that you will never see the same number hit twice in arow out of 37 spins.
its an idea at the moment and would like to hear comments about this.
the idea is you will usauly get the same number hitting twice in a row out of 37 spins, if this was true and with the combined strategy of winkel then it may be a winner but i dont know how often you wouldnt get the same number hitting twice in a row out of 37 spins
another option is to use progression after the 36th spin and so on in hoping to get a hit.
progression of 1,2,4,8,16,32
and after a hit you should be even or profit, then you go up in the progression then after the 36th spin you go up.
anyway its an idea at the moment and would like to hear what people think
Quote from: darrynf on Feb 18, 03:34 PM 2011
My question is
you never see 37 numbers come out in 37 spins
could this hold true that you will never see the same number hit twice in arow out of 37 spins.
its an idea at the moment and would like to hear comments about this.
the idea is you will usauly get the same number hitting twice in a row out of 37 spins, if this was true and with the combined strategy of winkel then it may be a winner but I don't know how often you wouldnt get the same number hitting twice in a row out of 37 spins
another option is to use progression after the 36th spin and so on in hoping to get a hit.
progression of 1,2,4,8,16,32
and after a hit you should be even or profit, then you go up in the progression then after the 36th spin you go up.
anyway its an idea at the moment and would like to hear what people think
Check this link out. You'll find it interesting.
link:://turbogenius.webs.com/1unitpervisit.htm (link:://turbogenius.webs.com/1unitpervisit.htm)
George
Re numbers hitting twice in 37 spins
Below are 13 games of 100 spins each showing same numbers hitting twice after each other.
Live casino
GAME 1 1 in 100 spins
GAME 2 4
GAME 3 0
GAME 4 1
GAME 5 2
GAME 6 5
GAME 7 2
GAME 8 0
GAME 9 1
GAME 10 1
GAME 11 3
GAME 12 1
GAME 13 1
Hope this help and good luck
were all those sessions in 100 spins ?
I played like chrisbis, with the constant winning bet and the letwin tracker, and I lost all my money 2 times. First I made good profit, then I would lose it all.. Played on a live wheel. I'm also very interested in this thread. Looking forward to some more replies.
Goran mate,
I f you play continously any method without knowing when to stop,you,I,him,her will always lose.You must know when to stop and when restart again.Sometimes I play 7-8 short sessions in one night session.Where are you from,as this name is very popular in my country.
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Feb 20, 03:15 PM 2011
Goran mate,
I f you play continously any method without knowing when to stop,you,I,him,her will always lose.You must know when to stop and when restart again.Sometimes I play 7-8 short sessions in one night session.Where are you from,as this name is very popular in my country.
thats bullshit, any good system should be able to play back to back, just face this system wont win, it relies on triggers and hoping to get something.
i can play back to back with my system but no one wants a system wins constant so i have taken it off.
but saying you play any system long enuff and you will lose is a copout, if its anygood then it should be able to play as long as you want like my system.
i could understand this system if i wish but why when i already have a system that works good for me.
at lease my system dosent relie on trigers or hopes for something to happen.
Quote from: darrynf on Feb 20, 05:17 PM 2011
that's B.S., any good system should be able to play back to back, just face this system wont win, it relies on triggers and hoping to get something.
......
at lease my system dosent relie on trigers or hopes for something to happen.
Hi darry,
youÃ,´re so vain, thatÃ,´s what make you so ....
Playing back to back is pure ignorance of statisttical phenomenons.
Your System relies on trigger 30spins!
it relies on hopes because (your own words) it is guessing!
What did you write in one of my threads: "I donÃ,´t wish you luck .."
I donÃ,´t wisch you anything. I just wait and watch and will you find crying a like baby, when happened what you till now ignore to be possible.
br
winkel
Quote from: darrynf on Feb 20, 05:17 PM 2011
i can play back to back with my system but no one wants a system wins constant so i have taken it off.
but saying you play any system long enuff and you will lose is a copout, if its anygood then it should be able to play as long as you want like my system.
i could understand this system if i wish but why when i already have a system that works good for me.
at lease my system dosent relie on trigers or hopes for something to happen.
Hmm, it appears I may have missed a message or two about this system of yours.
Can you point me to it for a looksee?
AD
Quote from: winkel on Feb 20, 05:34 PM 2011
Hi darry,
youÃ,´re so vain, thatÃ,´s what make you so ....
Playing back to back is pure ignorance of statisttical phenomenons.
Your System relies on trigger 30spins!
it relies on hopes because (your own words) it is guessing!
What did you write in one of my threads: "I donÃ,´t wish you luck .."
I donÃ,´t wisch you anything. I just wait and watch and will you find crying a like baby, when happened what you till now ignore to be possible.
br
winkel
thats not a trigger, its catching numbers. get it right or stay out.
stats have no meaning in roulette just like math.
you are as expeience as this system
Quote from: ADulay on Feb 20, 05:39 PM 2011
Hmm, it appears I may have missed a message or two about this system of yours.
Can you point me to it for a looksee?
AD
sorry mate i got it removed, people just dont want to know a winning system and they continue to batter it without trying it.
i give up, i wish to no longer tell my system any more. its not one i have told on any forum but am tired of hearing bad comments or remearks to try and put me down.
there were some genuine people but i think i will practice my sessions more and continue to win.
heres another winning session.
Session 1
11
5
5*
2
34
17
8
27
24
2*
13
19
9
2*
21
25
11*
29
0
8*
32
32*
34*
32*
19*
34*
17*
1
15
13* end of the 30 spins
17 repeats and 19 new numbers.
No bets
24 r+ n-
Bet repeats (as you can see the numbers are less in repeats)
Bets @ $1 unit, bankroll $300
1,2,5,8,9,11,13,15,17,19,21,24,25,27,29,32,34
9 r+ n- win +$19 no bets, b.r $319
7 n+ r- no bets
0 no bets
25 r+ n- bet new numbers
Bets @ $1 unit
3,4,5,6,10,12,14,16,18,20,22,23,26,28,30,31,33,35,36 (Iââ,¬â,,¢m betting 19 numbers)
0 loss -19 (would off won if I covered the zero as a repeat, oh well)
No bets, b.r $300
18 n+ r- bet repeats
Bet @ $1 unit
1,2,7,8,9,11,13,15,17,18,19,21,24,25,27,29,32,34
25 r+ n- win +18 b.r $318 bet repeats
Bet @ $1 unit
1,2,7,8,9,10,13,15,17,18,19,21,24,25,29,32,34
The reason Iââ,¬â,,¢m betting repeats is because the pattern is showing repeats hitting twice in a row for now.
30 n+ r- loss 17, bet for repeats b.r $301
Bet @ $1 unit
1,2,7,8,9,10,13,15,17,18,19,21,24,25,29,30,32,34
7 r+ n- win +18 b.r $319 bet new number
Bet @ $1 unit
3,4,5,6,10,12,14,16,20,22,23,26,27,28,31,33,35,36
26 n+ win +18 b.r $337 bet repeats
Bet @ $1 unit
1,2,7,8,9,11,13,15,17,18,19,21,24,25,26,29,30,32,34
0 loss -19 b.r $318 bet new number
Bet @ 2 units
3,4,5,6,10,12,14,16,20,22,23,27,28,31,33,35,36
9 r+ loss -34 b.r $284 bet new number
Bet @ $4 units
3,4,5,6,10,12,14,16,20,22,23,27,28,31,33,35,36
30 r+ loss -68 b.r $216 bet new numbers
Bet @ 8 units
2,3,4,5,6,10,12,14,16,20,22,23,27,28,31,33,35,36
14 n+ win +144 b.r $360 bet new numbers
Bet @ $1 unit
2,3,4,5,6,10,12,16,20,21,22,23,27,28,31,33,35,36
30 r+ loss -18 b.r $342 bet new numbers
Bet @ $2 units
2,3,4,5,6,10,12,16,20,21,22,23,27,28,31,33,35,36
19 r+ loss -36 b.r $306 bet new numbers
Bet @ 4 units
2,3,4,5,6,10,11,12,16,20,21,22,23,27,28,31,33,35,36
19 r+ loss -76 b.r $230 bet new numbers
Bet @ $8 units
2,3,4,5,6,10,12,16,20,21,22,23,27,28,29,31,33,35,36
20 n+ win +136 b.r $366 bet repeats
Bet repeats @ $2 units (Iââ,¬â,,¢m covering less with repeats and repeats hitting more at the moment)
1,7,8,9,13,14,15,17,18,19,20,24,25,26,30,32,34,
15 r+ win + 38 b.r $404 bet repeats
If need to be then change to what has less numbers to cover, its not a rule to stay at one.
Bet @ $2 units
1,7,9,13,14,15,17,18,19,20,24,25,26,30,32,34
11 n+ loss -32 b.r $372 bet repeats
Bet @ 4 units
1,7,9,11,13,14,15,17,18,19,20,24,25,26,30,32,34
0 loss -68 b.r $304 bet repeats
Bet @ 8 units
1,7,9,11,13,14,15,17,18,19,20,24,25,26,30,32,34
26 r+ win +152 b.r $456 bet repeats
Bet @ $2 units
1,7,9,11,13,14,15,17,18,19,20,24,25,26,30,32,34
20 r+ win +38 b.r $494 no bets
you can chose to believe me or not, i no longer care, i stop to have a break.
I donââ,¬â,,¢t play @ B&M casinos Iââ,¬â,,¢m more of a RNG.
I think JL 7x7 matrix is a really good idea. I posted an idea that came to me yesterday while reading the turbo matrix thread (I think it was that one)
me personally i donââ,¬â,,¢t believe in stop/loss and Iââ,¬â,,¢m in agreement with darryn f that if a system is any good you should be able to play it continuously
But i disagree with his trigger statement. All systems need triggers otherwise what are you following and when do you bet?
But my vote in this thread is the 7X7 matrix. I think it genius because we are looking at the random results and trying to put them in order.
You cannot put random in order, therefore there must be a way to exploit this. Thatââ,¬â,,¢s where my idea came from.
But yea, JL 7x7 for me...
what i said is that i dont relie on a trigger, winkel thinks my yrcking of numbers is a trigger which is not.
reason why is trigger are the same thing all the time, they never change. now a trigger say is wait for losses or vitaul wins, then in that case i guess i do have teiggers but they are never the same, i can chose to place bets when i want, i dont need triggers.
the reason i disagreed was that when i track 30 numbers is this always changes so i dont believe its a trigger and i dont usualy throw a bet down after i have done my tracking.
hi thomas, you might be able to find it by asking one of the admin, its up to you.
anyway the system i thought wasnt good is from flat_, a system should win without stop/loss and should be able to play back to back.
and when i guy uses different names then for me thats a red flag.
i dont expect anyone to believe me and i no longer care but i will say what i wish and i know i put a bad vibe on when i first came on and i did say i was sorry but it seems that dosent matter.
just because i wish not to understand flats system dosnet mean my system is shit, people dont want another system better then theres so they always try to find something to pick or dont think a system can win constant.
flat_ said his system losses 1 out of 30, i dont believe it cause 1 guy said he lost his moneytwice and what about other people, i didnt see anyone saying they were winning money all the time.
i dont come on here trying to mock people and systems, i did have a talk on flats_ thread and i didnot once put him or his system down, but he came on my thread and put my system down. so now i no longer care and will say what ever.
i always get ask dumb things from winkel, it makes me think hes not that experience.
i did say sorry now i no longer care what you think,your system uses over 1000 units bankroll then quit when you are up 100 units, 10% of your b.r.
whos going to risk a b.r to gain 10%
my system will beat yours hands down every time and make more with a lower b.r.
im sick of people putting something down unless they try it.
im sorry if im been harsh or i come of arogant, im not usualy like this but maybe i deserve it but it dosent mean im going to take.
if you want to debate then bring up valid points, not something a kid would say.
Good Job guys. Atleast a few systems are nominated now. Winkel's GUT theory, F_lat I_no' s CWB, JL's 7X7 marix method and darrynf's own method. Anybody else would mind suggesting any other?
Quote from: albalaha on Feb 20, 08:57 PM 2011
Good Job guys. Atleast a few systems are nominated now. Winkel's GUT theory, F_lat I_no' s consistent winning bet, JL's 7X7 marix method and darrynf's own method. Anybody else would mind suggesting any other?
mate my system isnt on here any more so it might not be idea to have it here.
did you by anychance catch my method before i got it removed ?
Hey darrynf,
I have seen your system. Why did u delete it if u were having so much success? Bring that again in full system but let me advise you one thing-- please be polite with everyone. It will cost you nothing.
Quote from: albalaha on Feb 20, 09:15 PM 2011
Hey darrynf,
I have seen your system. Why did you delete it if you were having so much success? Bring that again in full system but let me advise you one thing-- please be polite with everyone. It will cost you nothing.
yeah i know mate, i came on abit negative so i guess i deserved it.
i deleted it cause i no longer care what people think, nothing to negative on it but no one wants to hear about a winning system and i dont think you can code it.
im putting it in full systems now, so the ones who are interested can have a looksee.
It is good. Try to keep your language as simple as possible. If ur method is very good, you will get it coded also.
Quote from: albalaha on Feb 20, 09:39 PM 2011
It is good. Try to keep your language as simple as possible. If your method is very good, you will get it coded also.
its in there now mate, maybe you could code but you would have to fully understand it, it chops and changes so it has think like a human.
it really dosnt have a weakness, chop and change dosent affect it, repeats dosent affect it, sleepers dosent affect it, it is really good but also hard to explain.
thats why i didnt want to post it as im not very good with words but i did my best to explain it.
now i just wait for the none believers to make pot shots.
Well,
I have seen your system. The language is clear and has no ambiguity. I would write more when I test it myself. You know, it is the result that matters most. Stay calm. If ur method is worthy, you will surely be appreciated.
Quote from: albalaha on Feb 20, 09:52 PM 2011
Well,
I have seen your system. The language is clear and has no ambiguity. I would write more when I test it myself. You know, it is the result that matters most. Stay calm. If your method is worthy, you will surely be appreciated.
make sure your bank roll is 300 units.
well if its done right it should do very well but im not giving you permission to seel it.
Quote from: darrynf on Feb 20, 05:17 PM 2011
that's B.S., any good system should be able to play back to back, just face this system wont win, it relies on triggers and hoping to get something.
i can play back to back with my system but no one wants a system wins constant so I have taken it off.
but saying you play any system long enuff and you will lose is a copout, if its anygood then it should be able to play as long as you want like my system.
i could understand this system if I wish but why when I already have a system that works good for me.
at lease my system dosent relie on trigers or hopes for something to happen.
My dear,who ever you are.You bla-bla to much,and wouldn't have idea what are you talking about.777 times you are prizing your system/I really doubt about your claims/especially when you can't explain whats going on/on Medos post on another forum,addmiting that you are lost/which shows me about your knowledge about roulette.You got nothing man only empty words.
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Feb 20, 03:15 PM 2011
Goran mate,
I f you play continously any method without knowing when to stop,you,I,him,her will always lose.You must know when to stop and when restart again.Sometimes I play 7-8 short sessions in one night session.Where are you from,as this name is very popular in my country.
I did follow your advice to take a brake after 80-100 spins, and sometimes I even took a brake of 1 hour. Are you making good money using your system?
I'm born in Iraq (I'm a Kurd), but currently I'm living in The Netherlands. Where are you from?
Croatia,
When I get some time will PMyou how to play it safely.
Yes all were 100 spins from a live casino that i played at the same time of day and 13 days on the trot.
Will we ever get a final playable method even by combining all suggested methods/systems of all roulette forums? Will we ever get a seal of OK Tested upon any one?
Quote from: darrynf on Feb 20, 08:54 PM 2011
I don't come on here trying to mock people and systems, I did have a talk on flats_ thread and I didnot once put him or his system down, but he came on my thread and put my system down. so now I no longer care and will say what ever.
I
i always get ask dumb things from winkel, it makes me think he's not that experience.
i did say sorry now I no longer care what you think,your system uses over 1000 units bankroll then quit when you are up 100 units, 10% of your b.r.
whos going to risk a b.r to gain 10%
my system will beat yours hands down every time and make more with a lower b.r.
I'm sick of people putting something down unless they try it.
I'm sorry if I'm been harsh or I come of arogant, I'm not usualy like this but maybe I deserve it but it dosent mean I'm going to take.
if you want to debate then bring up valid points, not something a kid would say.
Darrynf what is your system?
Quote from: albalaha on Mar 25, 01:15 AM 2011
Will we ever get a final playable method even by combining all suggested methods/systems of all roulette forums? Will we ever get a seal of OK Tested upon any one?
Yes you will in April I will present my finest method *PATTERN BREAKER*. One method to rule them ALL. It is without equal in terms of RISK, STRIKERATE and money management potential. It will be the last SYSTEM I EVER REVEAL on a forum. It pays my bills and turns random on itself.
On the forum at PRESENT there are two methods that are incredible. But, require PATIENCE. TEMPLATE 7 and MATRIX VERTICAL QUAD.
Two of a kind is looking FANTASTIC with the trigger TWEAK. But I've saved the best till last.
I will say this, YOU CAN HAND A HOLY GRAIL, BETTING MIRACLE. To someone on a plate. It is THEY who must realize what they have in their possesion. THERE HAS ALWAYS LAY THE PROBLEM.
Dear Johnlegend,
Why in April and not now? If you are inching towards an almost perfect system, u can get my assistance in finalizing it or there are numerous other forum members capable of tweaking and testing any method.
Quote from: Johnlegend on Mar 25, 03:13 PM 2011
Yes you will in April I will present my finest method *PATTERN BREAKER*. One method to rule them ALL. It is without equal in terms of RISK, STRIKERATE and money management potential. It will be the last SYSTEM I EVER REVEAL on a forum. It pays my bills and turns random on itself.
On the forum at PRESENT there are two methods that are incredible. But, require PATIENCE. TEMPLATE 7 and MATRIX VERTICAL QUAD.
Two of a kind is looking FANTASTIC with the trigger TWEAK. But I've saved the best till last.
I will say this, YOU CAN HAND A HOLY GRAIL, BETTING MIRACLE. To someone on a plate. It is THEY who must realize what they have in their possesion. THERE HAS ALWAYS LAY THE PROBLEM.
Gee and I thought this months Two of a Kind was the Holy Grail. How many Holy Grail's does one need?
I suppose you can never have too many.
You're a funny man Fender...I must give you that much. :thumbsup:
QuoteGee and I thought this months Two of a Kind was the Holy Grail. How many Holy Grail's does one need?
I suppose you can never have too many.
Really?
This is from one of his many posts.
''People that's ALL about to change, TWO OF A KIND can be grasped by a 10 year old. It is THE HOLY GRAIL for that reason as well as its astonishing profit to loss/recovery ratio. It doesn't require a degree in math to understand it. I've seen it All in my 20+ years experience with this game. I've seen nothing like TWO OF A KIND. It flows with random instead of asking it to do something. You will see..."
....and whose quote is that?
Ken
Quote from: MrJ on Mar 26, 01:44 AM 2011
....and whose quote is that?
Ken
Our good friend Mr. JohnLengend aka Fender.
good to know but may be I should see it thoroughly myself before commenting.
Quote from: albalaha on Mar 26, 02:03 AM 2011
good to know but may be I should see it thoroughly myself before commenting.
Albahala TWO OF A KIND was overhyped I myself will admit that. It isn't my creation but I tested it and promoted it. That said with the Tweak, its one of the best and most understandable methods I've ever seen.
PATTERN BREAKER on the other hand is my baby. And its AWESOME. Il tell you that straight. It has proven itself to me over the last three years. I'm done after this one. Theres only so much testing, debating you can do. There comes a point where you have to have the intelligence to realize.
NO METHOD IS PERFECT. BUT, does it have such a good strikerate, that when it does lose, its merely a small setback? that's MY DEFINITION OF A HOLY GRAIL *OUTSTANDING PROFIT TO LOSS RATIO*
TEMPLATE 7, Does. Your buy in is 170 odd units for a method that can have winning streaks in excess of 200/1 garnering 4-5 units per win more if the ZERO hits.
MATRIX VIRTICAL QUAD, Does. Your buy in is 80 units with a trigger 242 without. For a method with as yet an UNKNOWN strikerate. As its never lost. I have data that indicates its strikerate to be in the 1000s. It wins 1 unit per win.
And PATTERN BREAKER, YOUR BUY IN IS *14* units. that's where it leaves those other two betting miracles in the dust. Next Friday I drop it on the forum.
Thanks Johnlegend.....we cant wait to see your system working !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Offcourse Johnlegend,
It would be a great gift and if it works the way you say, you will be "John The Legend".
Quote from: Johnlegend on Mar 26, 07:08 AM 2011
Albahala TWO OF A KIND was overhyped I myself will admit that. It isn't my creation but I tested it and promoted it. That said with the Tweak, its one of the best and most understandable methods I've ever seen.
PATTERN BREAKER on the other hand is my baby. And its AWESOME. Il tell you that straight. It has proven itself to me over the last three years. I'm done after this one. Theres only so much testing, debating you can do. There comes a point where you have to have the intelligence to realize.
NO METHOD IS PERFECT. BUT, does it have such a good strikerate, that when it does lose, its merely a small setback? that's MY DEFINITION OF A HOLY GRAIL *OUTSTANDING PROFIT TO LOSS RATIO*
TEMPLATE 7, Does. Your buy in is 170 odd units for a method that can have winning streaks in excess of 200/1 garnering 4-5 units per win more if the ZERO hits.
MATRIX VIRTICAL QUAD, Does. Your buy in is 80 units with a trigger 242 without. For a method with as yet an UNKNOWN strikerate. As its never lost. I have data that indicates its strikerate to be in the 1000s. It wins 1 unit per win.
And PATTERN BREAKER, YOUR BUY IN IS *14* units. that's where it leaves those other two betting miracles in the dust. Next Friday I drop it on the forum.
I cant wait for this John ;D ;D
Realy looking forward to see what you have this time after the Best Matrix Verticale :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Jon
Quote from: Johnlegend on Mar 26, 07:08 AM 2011
And PATTERN BREAKER, YOUR BUY IN IS *14* units. that's where it leaves those other two betting miracles in the dust. Next Friday I drop it on the forum.
Like the look of this one ;D
Hey John,
U have aroused too much curiosity amongst us. Now, finalise and publish the method as soon as possible.
Quote from: albalaha on Mar 28, 12:46 PM 2011
Hey John,
you have aroused too much curiosity amongst us. Now, finalise and publish the method as soon as possible.
The method has been set in stone for three years Albahala. Its on here Friday night. In terms of risk, reward, and strikerate. It has no match. All your doubts, dreams, possibilities will be anwsered with this one.
Naysayers will disappear off the radar. Because THEY'LL KNOW. This does what MATHS FORGOT TO REMEMBER. When too much emphasise was put on what random could do. They forgot WHAT ITS VERY POOR AT DOING.
Quote from: Johnlegend on Mar 30, 05:07 PM 2011
The method has been set in stone for three years Albahala. Its on here Friday night. In terms of risk, reward, and strikerate. I has no match. All your doubts, dreams, possibilities will be anwsered with this one.
Naysayers will disappear off the radar. Because THEY'LL KNOW. This does what MATHS FORGOT TO REMEMBER. When too much emphasise was put on what random could do. They forgot WHAT ITS VERY POOR AT DOING.
I will not sleep until friday ;D
Dear Johnlegend,
Your claim is too tall. Do u think you will make out for the expectations of forum members?
Quote from: albalaha on Mar 30, 10:53 PM 2011
Dear Johnlegend,
Your claim is too tall. Do you think you will make out for the expectations of forum members?
YES! ive been telling people to think outside of the layout for sometime now, its the only way you can own roulette longterm. MATRIX VERTICAL does this very well. And puts random into a playground, where its keeper THE LAW OF AVERAGES. Keeps it in line.
PATTERN BREAKER sets random another test that it fails TOO OFTEN. The reason Im making a big noise about this one is THE BUY IN.
14 POINTS for a SYSTEM that can roll up 15 times in 20 games. I will show you once and for all how easy roulette is to own. ONCE YOU UNDERSTAND RANDOMS WEAKNESSES.
Mathematicians have always been WRONG about roulette. Its time to start the shift in thinking. It will take years and remain a specialist game. Just as formula one is in sport.
But I KNOW ABSOLUTELY some very famous people have been responsible for instilling negative and defeatest attitudes in otherwise intelligent and open minded thinkers.
My goal is to show those who arent completely swallowed up in the myths surrounding this game what is REALLY POSSIBLE. Not THEORETICALLY STATED.
JL will be releasin the Method PATTERN BREAKER not this Friday but Friday NEXT WEEK
Cheers guys :xd:
Quote from: Twisteruk on Mar 31, 01:26 PM 2011
JL will be releasin the Method PATTERN BREAKER not this Friday but Friday NEXT WEEK
Cheers guys :xd:
Yes Twisteruk stands correct, we have to give MATRIX VERTICAL 5 its due. It may be the greatest overall system ever. Nothing can break it. Even a spreadsheet saw it lose once in a CONTINUOS 10,000 spins, then not again in over 16,000 thats a big deal.
RNGs cant break it, and live wheels dont want to know. AND ITS ON THIS FORUM. The greatest roulette forum period.
I absolutely love they way how John L speaks about the game. TRUE passion in your words and confidence in the method that will be released!
"For they conquer who beleive they can." - John Dryden
I've tested the matrix system today, as a first time user of the system...lovin it! On my worst nightmare too - RNG!
Thanks for sharing! :thumbsup:
Regards,
Mauricio
Quote from: Johnlegend on Mar 31, 01:17 PM 2011
YES! I've been telling people to think outside of the layout for sometime now, its the only way you can own roulette longterm. MATRIX VERTICAL does this very well. And puts random into a playground, where its keeper THE LAW OF AVERAGES. Keeps it in line.
PATTERN BREAKER sets random another test that it fails TOO OFTEN. The reason I'm making a big noise about this one is THE BUY IN.
14 POINTS for a SYSTEM that can roll up 15 times in 20 games. I will show you once and for all how easy roulette is to own. ONCE YOU UNDERSTAND RANDOMS WEAKNESSES.
Mathematicians have always been WRONG about roulette. Its time to start the shift in thinking. It will take years and remain a specialist game. Just as formula one is in sport.
But I KNOW ABSOLUTELY some very famous people have been responsible for instilling negative and defeatest attitudes in otherwise intelligent and open minded thinkers.
My goal is to show those who arent completely swallowed up in the myths surrounding this game what is REALLY POSSIBLE. Not THEORETICALLY STATED.
In particular I resonate with "think outside of the layout" and with "mathematicians have always been wrong about roulette".
We are truly at a time of breaking open a lot of preconceived and fixed thinking. Now we can think in quantum parcels, smaller cycles within the larger and harvest in short and efficient coups. No need to linger and expose yourself to the vast array of forces of house edge correction and more - some external, some internal. Keep it simple.
The true nature of roulette is becoming better understood and as the writer correctlly states it is truly and really possible to consistently beat the game of roulette.
There are very many variables which need to be recognised, measured and understood, then managed.
Not the least of which is the location of the actual roulette wheel, the true observation of the outcome, and the manner of betting and the terms and conditions thereof.
There are many many methods that work and I am starting to believe that even the simplest and most modest can be applied successfully if the key conditions are met/ selected and managed by the wise player.
Fantastic work by JohnL and others on this quest and there have been many helpful statements made, including the need for steady and reliable strike rate, good return in relation to outlay, steady money management and methodology and last but by no means least, iron self discipline. I add titanium discipline to this list to update it.
Key is work in reading of trends and short cycles of edge opportunity for probably no longer than 100 spins, or preferably much much less. Get in and out in quick cycles, if necessary as part of a bigger picture.
Note what JohnL has often said that in a sequence of modest and quick gains, when added to consistently, your bank can multiply over a month, a quarter, a year. Set goals to work toward and be amazed. Note the power of compounding ( say 10% ongoing).
Manage your own unique individual nature. Know yourself.
Be ever watchful and on guard.
There may be loss sessions. Know when to stop loss. Calmly step aside then.
There will be many win sessions. Likewise know when/ how to take profit and sleep on it feeling good. The morning will feel good.
Read as much as you can on the subject of roulette and never stop.
Keep a cool independent head amongst the complexities of this business, and maintain always a healthy scepticism.
Lastly, always regularly give a proportion of your winnings to others.
Well done JohnL and looking forward to reading more.
Quote from: XXVV on Apr 03, 01:16 AM 2011
In particular I resonate with "think outside of the layout" and with "mathematicians have always been wrong about roulette".
We are truly at a time of breaking open a lot of preconceived and fixed thinking. Now we can think in quantum parcels, smaller cycles within the larger and harvest in short and efficient coups. No need to linger and expose yourself to the vast array of forces of house edge correction and more - some external, some internal. Keep it simple.
The true nature of roulette is becoming better understood and as the writer correctlly states it is truly and really possible to consistently beat the game of roulette.
There are very many variables which need to be recognised, measured and understood, then managed.
Not the least of which is the location of the actual roulette wheel, the true observation of the outcome, and the manner of betting and the terms and conditions thereof.
There are many many methods that work and I am starting to believe that even the simplest and most modest can be applied successfully if the key conditions are met/ selected and managed by the wise player.
Fantastic work by JohnL and others on this quest and there have been many helpful statements made, including the need for steady and reliable strike rate, good return in relation to outlay, steady money management and methodology and last but by no means least, iron self discipline. I add titanium discipline to this list to update it.
Key is work in reading of trends and short cycles of edge opportunity for probably no longer than 100 spins, or preferably much much less. Get in and out in quick cycles, if necessary as part of a bigger picture.
Note what JohnL has often said that in a sequence of modest and quick gains, when added to consistently, your bank can multiply over a month, a quarter, a year. Set goals to work toward and be amazed. Note the power of compounding ( say 10% ongoing).
Manage your own unique individual nature. Know yourself.
Be ever watchful and on guard.
There may be loss sessions. Know when to stop-loss. Calmly step aside then.
There will be many win sessions. Likewise know when/ how to take profit and sleep on it feeling good. The morning will feel good.
Read as much as you can on the subject of roulette and never stop.
Keep a cool independent head amongst the complexities of this business, and maintain always a healthy scepticism.
Lastly, always regularly give a proportion of your winnings to others.
Well done JohnL and looking forward to reading more.
Hello XXVV, there isnt much more I can add for now you've said it perfectly. Especially emphasizing the need for solid self discipline. I see that as the last stumbling block.
Once a player has in their possesion the tools to profit from the game. Only their lack of self discipline could prevent them becoming sucessful in the longterm.
For example when I first began making regular profits from the game, I used to frequent real bricks and mortar casinos in London, before online live betting became widely available.
There you could witness before your eyes the very traits in human nature that prevent this game from ever being under threat. You would see players win 1000s only to hand it all back along with their starting BR. And leave a broken emotional mess. Players who came with 100 points expecting to win a fortune, cursing lady luck or the table being rigged when they went bust.
THE GREED FACTOR, then one day someone noticed me quitely winning my usual modest sum. before quitting and having a meal, drink. They asked me WHY DO I SETTLE for relatively small profits, compared to what others were SEEMINGLY WINNING.
I replied "from little acorns GROW MIGHTY OAKS". If you don't respect your POWERBASE, BR you won't have it for long. You build it slowly but surely. don't try to get rich overnight, think in terms of months, years.
If you increase your BR by even 5% every week you will be doing very nicely by the end of the year. THINK LONGTERM, TO WIN LONGTERM.
Quote from: Johnlegend on Apr 03, 05:47 AM 2011
Hello XXVV, there isnt much more I can add for now you've said it perfectly. Especially emphasizing the need for solid self discipline. I see that as the last stumbling block.
Once a player has in their possesion the tools to profit from the game. Only their lack of self discipline could prevent them becoming sucessful in the longterm.
For example when I first began making regular profits from the game, I used to frequent real bricks and mortar casinos in London, before online live betting became widely available.
There you could witness before your eyes the very traits in human nature that prevent this game from ever being under threat. You would see players win 1000s only to hand it all back along with their starting BR. And leave a broken emotional mess.
THE GREED FACTOR, then one day someone noticed me quitely winning my usual modest sum. before quitting and having a meal, drink. They asked me WHY DO I SETTLE for relatively small profits, compared to what others were SEEMINGLY WINNING.
I replied "from little acorns GROW MIGHTY OAKS". If you don't respect your POWERBASE, BR you won't have it for long. You build it slowly but surely. don't try to get rich overnight, think in terms of months, years.
If you increase your BR by even 5% every week you will be doing very nicely by the end of the year. THINK LONGTERM, TO WIN LONGTERM.
Everyone sould read this 2 last post 100 times and memorize the words :thumbsup:
Quote from: Johnlegend on Apr 03, 05:47 AM 2011
I replied "from little acorns GROW MIGHTY OAKS". If you don't respect your POWERBASE, BR you won't have it for long. You build it slowly but surely. don't try to get rich overnight, think in terms of months, years.
If you increase your BR by even 5% every week you will be doing very nicely by the end of the year. THINK LONGTERM, TO WIN LONGTERM.
THis is my favorate bit :thumbsup:
Quote from: darrynf on Feb 20, 09:34 PM 2011
I'm putting it in full systems now, so the ones who are interested can have a looksee.
hi Darrynf
i have sent you a pm. your comments are much appreciated
thanks
catalyst
Did Darryn ever put his system in full systems?
Jon :)