SECOND LAST ROULETTE SYSTEM
Simple and effective system for playing one dozen or column.
You bet always the second last dozen or column. Wait for 2 different D/C before bet decision. For example if came 2nd dozen (24) then 3rd dozen (32) the next bet would be 2nd dozen.
The proposal progression Dââ,¬â,,¢Alembert for one D/C : Win +1 unit; 3 Losses -1 unit; showed very suitable and flexible for this game.
Short example of play:
19
17
21
34 next spin bet 1 unit on 2nd dozen
7 next spin bet 1 unit on 3rd dozen
11 next spin bet 1 unit on 3rd dozen
36 won- next spin bet 2 units on 1st dozen
35 next spin bet 2 units on 1st dozen
4 won- next spin bet 3 units on 3rd dozen
28 won- next spin bet 4 units on 1st dozen
29 next spin bet 4 units on 1st dozen
15 next spin bet 4 units on 3rd dozen
8 next spin bet 3 units on 2nd dozen
16 won- next spin bet 4 units on 1st dozen
16 next spin bet 4 units on 1st dozen
1 won- next spin bet 5 units on 2nd dozen
27 next spin bet 6 units on 1st dozen
7 won- next spin bet 7 units on 3rd dozen and so onââ,¬Â¦
We normally donââ,¬â,,¢t bet that aggressive Dââ,¬â,,¢Alembert but have 2 other choices:
A/ Economical: every time we get + (plus) result reset to 1 unit.
B/ Common sense: every time we get +10 units reset to 1 unit.
I am looking for constructive improvement from you experienced gamblers.
Cheers Hermes
Hi Hermes, you know I already have some experience with this(and similars methods)
thanks to you. Until now I only can add to this one a few things:
When start session wait one virtual W, then start to bet.
When hit L1L2L3L1L2L3 stop, wait virtual W and bet again (use the next progr. level)
Also when bet high (ex: 8 units on doz) and hit L1L2L3WL1L2L3 stop ,wait virtual W...
D= dozen
17 virtual play
23
34 bet D2
32 L1 bet D2
22 W bet D3/1u Start Real Play
5 L1 -1 bet D2/1u
22 W +1 bet D1/2u
18 L1 -1 bet D1/2u
1 W +3 ... D2/3u
7 L1 0 D2/3u
9 L2 -3 D2/3u
16 W +3 D1/4u
21 L1 -1 D1/4u
26 L2 -5 D2/4u
22 W +3 D3/5u
34 W +13 D2/1u Reset
9 L1 +12 D3/1u
13 L2 +11 D1/1u
23 L3 +10 D1/1u
9 W +12 D2/2u
29 L1 +10 D1/2u
14 L2 +8 D3/2u
23 L3 +6 D3/1u
8 L1 +5 D2/1u
7 L2 +4 D2/1u
15 W +6 D1/2u
30 L1 +4 D2/2u
31 L2 +2 D2/2u
6 L3 0 D3/ 1u
35 W +2 D1/2u
1 W +6 D3/3u
29 W +12 D1/4u
10 w +20 D3/1u Reset
...and so on....
The enemys are the chops 31223123....and the repeat of the same
dozen 3211111332....this is why i say to stop after L1L2L3L1L2L3...
what do you think Hermes ?
balint suggested the same approach like you kattila you must be twins, ha , ha, ha...
We could apply also the WL strategy. But we could bet it also this way.
1D 2D 3D
X
X
X
X
X
X
X A
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
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X
X
X B
X
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X
X
X C
X
X
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We profit at A formation but not at B or C. If one D/C sleeps we get mostly formation A and less B.
Other possibility would be to bet zick zacks and doubles but when triple shows up stop and wait for different D/C. Eg:
1D 2D 3D
X
X next bet 1st D 1u.
X won- next bet 2D 2u. +2
X lost- next bet 2D 2u. 0
X won- next bet 1D 1u. +4 reset
X won- next bet 2D 1u. +2
X lost- next bet 2D 1u. +1
X lost- next bet 2D 1u. 0
? ? ? Stop and wait for diff. D/C!
Doubles come very often but triples not so often that's why we could bet against doubles also. Sometimes comes even 10 doubles before one longer streak.
Cheers Hermes
Yes Hermes, * identical twins* :)
And right, when one dozen sleeps we get mostly formation A,
and good advice to wait different D/C after three same D/C.
another session:
Bet the second last
+1 at W/ at 3LLLs -1 (after L1 and L2 bet same units)
reset at new ( you own) profit
when 3 same D/C wait different D/C
when hit twice L1L2L3 stop wait virtual W, bet next progr. step
27
22 bet D3/1u
1 L1 -1 bet D2/1u
27 L2 -2 D1/1u
26 L3 -3 D1/1u
1 W -1 D3/2u
35 W +3 D1/2u
12 W +7 D3/1u reset
0 L1 +6 D1/1u
25 L2 +5 D1/1u
30 L3 +4 D1/1u
10 W +6 D3/2u
16 L1 +4 D1/2u
24 L2 +2 D1/2u
12 W +6 D2/3u
13 W +12 D1/1u reset
36 L1 +11 D2/1u
20 W +13 D3/2u
19 L1 +11 D3/2u
9 L2 +9 D2/2u
34 L3 +7 D1/1u
20 L1 +6 D3/1u
9 L2 +5 D2/1u
9 L3 +4 wait virtual W (because twice L1L2L3)
5
31
22
5
15 W(virtual) trigger bet D1/2u
18 L1 +2 D1/2u
19 L2 0 wait different D (because hit 3 times D2)
32 bet D2/2u
31 L1 -2 D2/2u
16 W +2 D3/3u
29 W +8 D2/4u
7 L1 +4 D3/4u
1 L2 0 D3/4u
28 W +8 D1/5u
4 W +18 D3/1u reset
9 L1 +17 D3/1u
5 L2 +16 wait diff. D ,because hit 3 times D1
20 bet D1/1u
15 L1 +15 D1/1u
5 W +17 D2/2u
19 W +21 D1/3u
20 L1 +18 D1/3u
1 W +24 D2/1u reset
1 L1 +23 D2/1u
10 L2 +22 wait diff. D
10
12
11
4
15 bet D1/1u
5 W +24 D2/2u
21 W +28 D1/3u
32 L1 +25 D2/3u
31 L2 +22 D2/3u
2 L3 +19 D3/2u
30 W +23 D1/3u
30 L1 +20 D1/3u
20 L2 +17 D3/3u
27 W +23 D2/4u
16 W +31 D3/1u reset
10 L1 +30 D2/1u
33 L2 +29 D1/1u
14 L3 +28 D3/1u
22 L1 +27 D3/1u
30 L2 +26 D2/1u
16 W +28 D3/2u
11 L1 +26 D2/2u
21 W +30 D1/3u
9 W +36 D2/4u
10 L1 +32 D2/4u
14 W +40 D1/1u reset
29 L1 +39 D2/1u
24 W +41 D3/2u
26 W +45 D2/3u
14 W +51 D3/1u reset
11 L1 +50 D2/1u
30 L2 +49 D1/1u
1 W +51 D3/2u
15 L1 +49 D1/2u
10 W +53 D2/3u
4 L1 +50 D2/3u
10 L2 +47 wait diff. D
11
22 bet D1/3u
11 W +53 D2/4u
15 W +61 D1/1u reset
33 L1 +60
end session
And if we use Lw s ?
Play virtual and bet only after LL and keep bet for Ws
until hit L1L2L3, stop, now wait virtual WLL and bet again.
I will try.
Balint you are genius! You can read my thoughts! My last version is bet after LL, if streak wait for different D/C, almost unbeatable! Mostly the 3rd spin is second last. Bingo! Now we have to find the best suitable progression for it.
Other possibility would be to use progression from Golden Roulette: Reset to one unit at +12 or -6 units.
Hermes
I will try with that Golden R. progression next days.
Now see session with trigger LL and progrs. +1 at W/ 3LLLs -1
Bet the Second last
Trigger LL , at L1L2L3L4L5L6 stop wait new trigger LL, and bet next progr. step(up)
Progression +1 at W / at 3Ls -1 ( after L1 and L2 bet same).
Reset at 1u when new profit (Ex: +5 or +10 )
Also reset when recover from (Ex: -10 ) to break even or + something (Ex: +5)
Important:
Real play start only when in plus ( ex: +1)
21
3
24 W
33 L
3 L trigger bet D3/1u
26 W +2 D1/2u
6 W +6 D3/3u
35 W +12 D1/1u reset
0 L1 +11 D1/1u
16 L2 +10 D3/1u
11 L3 +9 D2/1u
10 L4 +8 D2/1u
31 L5 +7 D1/1u
1 W +9 D3/2u
17 L1 +7 D1/2u
23 L2 +5 D1/2u
20 L3 +3 D1/1u
26 L4 +2 D2/1u
7 L5 +1 D3/1u
31 W +3 D1/2u
14 L1 +1 D3/2u
12 L2 -1 D2/2u
16 W +3 D1/3u
10 W +9 D2/1u reset
26 L1 +8 D1/1u
15 L2 +7 D3/1u
20 L3 +6 D3/1u
35 W +8 D2/2u
9 L1 +6 D3/2u
0 L2 +4 D3/2u
29 W +8 D1/3u
23 L1 +5 D3/3u
20 L2 +2 D3/3u
35 W +8 D2/4u
5 L1 +4 D3/4u
23 L2 0 D1/4u
7 W +8 D2/5u
6 L1 +3 D2/5u
19 W +13 D1/1u reset
34 L1 +12 D2/1u
9 L2 +11 D3/1u
29 W +13 D1/2u
3 W +17 D3/3u
7 L1 +14 D3/3u
14 L2 +11 D1/3u
33 L3 +8 D2/2u
33 L4 +6 D2/2u
8 L5 +4 D3/2u
6 L6 +2 wait
28 W
28 L
22 L trigger bet D3/3u
33 W +8 D2/4u
19 W +16 D3/5u
26 W +26 D2/1u reset
16 W +28 D3/1u
20 L1 +27 D3/1u
7 L2 +26 D2/1u
10 L3 +25 D2/1u
29 L4 +24 D1/1u
2 W +26 D3/2u
31 W +30 D1/3u
5 W +36 D3/1u reset
17 L1 +35 D1/1u
31 L2 +34 D2/1u
36 L3 +33 D2/1u
18 W +35 D3/2u
20 L1 +32 D3/2u
25 W +36 D2/3u
14 W +42 D3/1u reset
29 W +44 D2/2u
16 W +48 D3/1u reset
20 L1 +47 D3/1u
16 L2 +46 D3/1u
32 W +48 D2/2u
36 L1 +46 D2/2u
30 L2 +44 D2/2u
22 W +48 D3/3u
25 W +54 D2/1u reset
14 W +53 D3/1u
10 L1 +52 D2/1u
11 L2 +51 D2/1u
10 L3 +50 D2/1u
0 L4 +49 D2/1u
5 L5 +48 D2/1u
1 L6 +47 wait
6 L
26 L trigger bet D1/2u
27 L1 +49 D1/2u
12 W +53 D3/3u
13 L1 +50 D1/3u
9 W +56 D2/1u reset
end session
Bet the Second last
Trigger LL , at L1L2L3L4L5L6 stop wait new trigger LL, and bet next progr. step(up)
Progression +1 at W / at 3Ls -1 ( after L1 and L2 bet same).
Reset at 1u when new profit (Ex: +5 or +10 )
Also reset when recover from (Ex: -10 ) to break even or + something (Ex: +5)
Important:
Real play start only when in plus ( ex: +1)
23 Virtual play
13
1 bet D2
22 W bet D1
29 L D2
7 L trigger bet D3/1u
2 L1 -1 D3/1u
9 L2 -2 D3/1u
34 W 0 D1/2u
23 L1 -2 D3/2u
7 L2 -4 D2/2u
5 L3 -6 D2/1u
15 W -4 D1/2u
12 W 0 D2/3u
29 L1 -3 D1/3u
25 L2 -6 D1/3u
27 L3 -9 D1/2u
31 L4 -11 D1/2u
13 L5 -13 D3/2u
14 L6 -15 wait
11 L
3 L trigger bet D2/3u
26 L1 -18 D1/3u
5 W -12 D3/4u
5 L1 -16 D3/4u
3 L2 -20 D3/4u
28 W -12 D1/5u
23 L1 -17 D3/5u
3 L2 -22 D2/5u
20 W -12 D1/6u
32 L1 -18 D2/6u
20 W -6 D3/7u
11 L1 -13 D2/7u
14 W +1 D1/1u Start real play
23 L
35 L trigger bet D2/1u
16 W +2 D3/2u
29 W +6 D2/1u reset
32 L1 +5 D2/1u
19 W +7 D3/2u
6 L1 +5 D2/2u
17 W +9 D1/3u
13 L1 +6 D1/3u
12 W +12 D2/1u reset
20 W +14 D1/2u
8 W +18 D2/1u reset
28 L1 +17 D1/1u
26 L2 +16 D1/1u
20 L3 +15 D3/1u
25 W +17 D2/2u
21 W +21 D3/1u reset
12 L1 +20 D2/1u
27 L2 +19 D1/1u
13 L3 +18 D3/1u
10 L4 +17 D2/1u
11 L5 +16 D2/1u
12 L6 +15 wait
10 L
27 L trigger bet D1/2u
12 W +19 D3/3u
1 L1 +16 D3/3u
19 L2 +13 D1/3u
13 L3 +10 D1/2u
14 L4 +8 D1/2u
23 L5 +6 D1/2u
19 L6 +4 wait
3 W
15 W
32 L
30 L trigger bet D2/3u
31 L1 +1 D2/3u
35 L2 -4 D2/3u
19 W +2 D3/4u
4 L1 -2 D2/4u
1 L2 -6 D2/4u
19 W +2 D1/5u
10 W +12 D2/1u reset
17 W +14 D1/2u
26 L1 +12 D2/2u
2 L2 +10 D3/2u
34 W +14
and so on....
Hermes and all,
what do you think if we use trigger LL and also
use swich metod D/C and C/D ?(see excel file)
Also this(bet second last) could work with an negative progression
like fibo 1,1,2,3,5,8......but again use trigger LL(or LLLL)or trigger ...LLW and
swich to the other one after 4Ls ?.
cheers
kattila (atila), the LL strategy could be like that where LL is a trigger to bet:
1D 2D 3D
X
X
X L 1 virtual
X L 2 virtual
X W real bet on second last, if lost bet negative progression on second last with Fibo.
All other recommendations you proposed could work but must be tested first. Some will be more successful some less.
Medo on old VLS forum proposed to bet all 3 D simultaneously. I tested it and it works also. Check it. Only problem is that he couldn't explain his idea easily.
Hermes
Quote from: Hermes on Feb 24, 11:49 AM 2011
Kattila (atila), the LL strategy could be like that where LL is a trigger to bet:
1D 2D 3D
X
X
X L 1 virtual
X L 2 virtual
X W real bet on second last, if lost bet negative progression on second last with Fibo.
All other recommendations you proposed could work but must be tested first. Some will be more successful some less.
Medo on old VLS forum proposed to bet all 3 D simultaneously. I tested it and it works also. Check it. Only problem is that he couldn't explain his idea easily.
Hermes
How could he when English is his third lingua,but as long as you got it.
Kako si Lat Ino? Ha, ha, ha...
Then medo must be a Gaddafi's brother?
Yes, medo is Gaddafi's son!
When I say bet after LL I mean that:
25
14 bet virtually 3rd next spin
18 L bet virtually 3rd next spin
7 L bet real 2nd next spin, because 2L are trigger to bet
31 L wait for 2Ls as a trigger but use progression.
36
20 L first virtual loss
5 L second virtual loss, next spin bet 2nd 2 units (use Fibs)
17 W back to 1 unit but wait for 2 Ls.
Hermes
Ok , thanks Hermes , I think I got it now( use interrupted progression):
L
L trigger bet 1u
L1 stop/wait
L
W
L
L trigger bet 2u
L2 stop/wait
L
W
W
L
W
L
L trigger bet 3u
W stop/wait new trigger/back to 1u
L
W
L
L trigger bet 1u
and so on.....
Question :
after LLL1 comes LL ( so LLL1LL) this two Ls are trigger or has to be
at least one virtual W there like LLL1LWLL trigger ?
thanks
Should be one W between like WLL because it could be even 5 LLLLL in row. Penthouse progression for one D/C looks best! Example: 1-1-1-2-2-2- play 3 times the same units after loss before rise and after win cross winner and 2 more numbers up the column until you are 1u.
1 L
1 L
1x L
2x L
2x W after win cross 2-2-1 and stay only 1-1 next bet 1 unit. It is the best progression for one D/C and also ECs but at ECs 1-1-2-2-3-3 after win you cross only winner and one number! 2 losses rise one unit.
Hermes
I usually wait for 4L to bet. I make up for the lack of betting opportunities by tracking more than one table at the same time.
Ron.
Hoper , I supose you play this(bet the second last doz or col)
on B&M casinos tracking more than one table. You track/play both , doz and col,
and wait 4Ls then bet a few negative proression steps ?
I supose sometimes you catch the Ls streak ( LLLL...trigger now hit LLLLLLLL...)
how often catch you this L streaks, and you win more than lose with this until now ?
Hermes bet after 2Ls using interrupted progression( LL...L1, wait LL...L2, wait LL...W),
what do you think about that (interrupted progression after two Ls , or after 4LS).
I belive this bet selection(bet the second last) is one of the best for one D or C.
Thanks.