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Title: Column Repeating Variations
Post by: sweetxtay on Feb 17, 02:27 PM 2011
Hi everyone,

I have been lurking many different roulette forums before I joined this one.    I was reading on vlsroulette.  com about the strategy used by Steve Morgan where he plays against groups of 4 columns repeating history.    So for example if 4 spins produced 1231 he would then wait and wait until he saw 4 spins repeat after each other.    Sometimes he would wait all day to see a 4 number progression repeat itself.    So his bet wouldn't come until the sequence went 1231 123* he would then play a double columns on 2 & 3.    he would also use a $10.  00 safety bet on 0. 

Working off that. . .

The odds of history not repeating itself would greatly increase the more numbers you used.    A three column progression has 81 possible outcomes.    A four number is 243 etc.  .  .   Your progressive betting would increase pretty high with the more numbers you use. 

For a 3 #

5 5
10 10
30 30

For a 4 #

5 5
10 10
30 30
90 90

As you can see the bankroll increase dramatically the more numbers you use. 

With that being said,  from what I am gathering in my methods it seems that playing each spin against the column that landed 4 spins ago and following the pattern could generate good profits especially with a safety 0 or 00 bet. 

I understand that roulette was made to be unbeatable, but using the idea of history not repeating itself along with a progressive betting system, you could be quite profitable.    The only unfortunate thing is the amount each bet would progress in your progression.    You could stop at a 3 or 4 number progression and try to recoup your losses still using the idea of history not repeating itself.   

Sorry if that all sounded like gibberish,  it makes sense in my head.    I just think utilizing the "history not repeating itself" method, with the proper progression, could create a system that won't beat roulette but put the odds heavily in your favor. 

Any thoughts or comments would be greatly appreciated. 

Thanks

-Taylor

Title: Re: Column Repeating Variations
Post by: chrisbis on Feb 17, 02:38 PM 2011
Hi Taylor.

In these words:-[reveal]As you can see the bankroll increase dramatically the more numbers you use.[/reveal]
do U mean the BankRoll REQUIREMENT increases dramatically?

And in Ur first few words of the description, [reveal]he would also use a $10.  00 safety bet on 0.[/reveal], can U clarify the Zero/Double Zero bet quantity plz?

Thank U.  ;)
Title: Re: Column Repeating Variations
Post by: sweetxtay on Feb 17, 02:49 PM 2011
Thanks for the reply.   I apologize for the misunderstandings.   

Yes I do mean "bankroll requirement".

And, as for the 0 and 00 amounts. . .

The progressions I wrote before would be used if you decided to not bet on 0 or 00.

In pretty much all cases you do have either a 0 or 00 wheel so the progression would look more like this. . .

For a three number. . .

5 5 (columns) 1 1 (0 & 00)
16 16 (columns) 2 2 (0 & 00)
55 55 (columns) 5 5 (0 & 00)

My math might be off from doing it in my head.   The first bet is for a profit, the second and third if necessary is to break even from the losses on the previous bets.   The 0 and 00 bet could be quite profitable if it hits.   Not bad for a safety bet.

The only bad thing is starting with a $5. 00 progression you only gain 3 units if you win the column bet on the first spin.   You could raise the stakes but then your bankroll requirement becomes much greater.
Title: Re: Column Repeating Variations
Post by: Gordonline on Feb 22, 07:20 AM 2011
Hi Sweetxtay

This method does work, however when I've tested this method over 1000 live spins on different tables I have seen it repeat itself twice in a row qnd this has a big impact on your BR, the most I saw was a 6 spin repeat so maybe you could try it with 2 virtual losses before you start betting

Hope that helps

Gordon
Title: Re: Column Repeating Variations
Post by: sweetxtay on Feb 24, 09:45 PM 2011
Thanks Gordonline,

The only thing I can think of, is to only allow yourself 3 losses.   You would then wait for 4 new spins and then restart your system.   This would allow you to keep a steadier bankroll and hopefully not take a huge blow.
Title: Re: Column Repeating Variations
Post by: Gordonline on Feb 26, 10:23 AM 2011
That would reduce the hit on your BR and if you went with the 2 virtual losses you would certainly win more often, and if you combined it with the columns it would prevent you from waiting too long for a trigger.

Must admit I haven't tested recently on RNG's as been busy looking at another strategy, if you do let me know how you get on and if I revisit it I will do the same

Gordon