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Title: F-N.O.N System/Method/Theory.....Whatever?
Post by: frost on Feb 28, 07:26 PM 2011
Hello everyone.

This is my first thread that I am going to start and I am going to share a system I think I thought up my very self. Of course of this statement I cannot be 100% sure as it very basic.

This is an EC method.
It uses progression.

Now two things will come out of this thread, either

1)   I will look a fool for sharing something that is quite useless

Or

2)   I will open a can of worms that will get someone a step closer to this ââ,¬Ëœgrailââ,¬â,,¢

I say someone because many members in this forum have a very unique way of thinking and may combine this method with another and make it better.

I read the standard deviation thread by Bayes and some reason I cant help but think that maybe that could be the missing link. (This could be due to the fact that STD made little sense to me and Iââ,¬â,,¢ve got the complete wrong end of the stick :embarrassed:)

Now before I start I would like to stress that this is not a perfect system.

However

To prove its creditability I am asking all/any member to post a 100 spin session of real or fake numbers and I will attempt to beat it.

I will aim to complete 10 sessions.

If I complete all ten I will let everyone in on the system.

If I fail any I will let everyone in on the system.

Rules for posting sessions:

Ã,·   Numbers can be real or made up
Ã,·   If I get halfway through a session and cannot complete it because I ran out of numbers I will post the end result and where I stopped.

For simplicity and ease of understanding I will bet betting High/Low

Thank you
Title: Re: F-N.O.N System/Method/Theory.....Whatever?
Post by: ADulay on Feb 28, 07:47 PM 2011
I do believe there is already a section with "live" results in stacks of 185 or so decisions each.

If this link works, it can be found here:

link:://rouletteforum.cc/actuals-spins/daily-live-spin-data-screenshots-of-185-spins-from-smart-live-casino/msg33391/#msg33391 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/actuals-spins/daily-live-spin-data-screenshots-of-185-spins-from-smart-live-casino/msg33391/#msg33391)

and you can test to your heart's content.

AD
Title: Re: F-N.O.N System/Method/Theory.....Whatever?
Post by: frost on Feb 28, 08:28 PM 2011
Thank you ADulay  :thumbsup:

I would like to point out that this is not a test so to speak as I already know what the system can do but I didnââ,¬â,,¢t want to make claims that I couldnââ,¬â,,¢t verify  :).

Anyway

First session of 185 spins betting Odd/Even ended in 48 units. I completed all bets and session finished at no. 26 on the last line.

Second session using the SAME numbers but betting Red/Black ended in 39 units. I completed all bets and session finished at the last 0 on the last line.

Of course with the end profit give or take a few units due to human error, but with time you will be all able to check anyway.

Thank you
Title: Re: F-N.O.N System/Method/Theory.....Whatever?
Post by: frost on Feb 28, 08:39 PM 2011
Quote from: frost on Feb 28, 07:26 PM 2011
For simplicity and ease of understanding I will bet betting High/Low

This will change to Odd/Even, purely because it is easier to follow. no other reason than this.

Thank you
Title: Re: F-N.O.N System/Method/Theory.....Whatever?
Post by: albalaha on Feb 28, 09:48 PM 2011
Does this thread truly belong to "Full Systems"?
Title: Re: F-N.O.N System/Method/Theory.....Whatever?
Post by: ADulay on Feb 28, 09:51 PM 2011
Quote from: frost on Feb 28, 08:28 PM 2011
Thank you ADulay  :thumbsup:

I would like to point out that this is not a test so to speak as I already know what the system can do but I didnââ,¬â,,¢t want to make claims that I couldnââ,¬â,,¢t verify  :).

Anyway

First session of 185 spins betting Odd/Even ended in 48 units. I completed all bets and session finished at no. 26 on the last line.

Second session using the SAME numbers but betting Red/Black ended in 39 units. I completed all bets and session finished at the last 0 on the last line.

Of course with the end profit give or take a few units due to human error, but with time you will be all able to check anyway.

Thank you


It sounds very interesting.  I'm sure we'll all be looking forward to your final results and plays.

AD
Title: Re: F-N.O.N System/Method/Theory.....Whatever?
Post by: chrisbis on Mar 01, 04:11 AM 2011
I think U should just post up Ur system.

We can test and let U know the results.

cheers.
Title: Re: F-N.O.N System/Method/Theory.....Whatever?
Post by: eluka on Mar 01, 04:32 AM 2011
Quote from: chrisbis on Mar 01, 04:11 AM 2011
I think you should just post up your system.

We can test and let you know the results.

cheers.

I agree - but I'm also game, here's 100 numbers:
sorry if it's not in the format you wanted - real casino numbers

28 36 27 27 22 31 1 10 18 24 22 30 10 36 25 27 34 13 17 30 27 23 33 32 19 18 14 4 29 31 6 6 9 10 33 6 35 31 9 17 21 27 21 6 9 35 11 33 29 26 16 14 6 20 17 25 6 26 34 7 7 26 34 35 13 9 1 14 20 24 21 26 5 21 6 21 13 13 28 5 34 29 28 12 19 19 28 35 9 21 19 2 24 32 33 7 28 30 20 10 34 30 9 8 15 34
Title: Re: F-N.O.N System/Method/Theory.....Whatever?
Post by: frost on Mar 01, 11:56 AM 2011
hello everyone

Quote from: chrisbis on Mar 01, 04:11 AM 2011
I think you should just post up your system.

We can test and let you know the results.

cheers.

i was going to just post the system but i wanted to make sure there was enough intrest in it  because im sure there is more we can do with it.

however

because of its simple nature i was a little worried it wouldnt be taken seriously.
i will completee Elukas numbers then post the system.
thank You
Title: Re: F-N.O.N System/Method/Theory.....Whatever?
Post by: frost on Mar 01, 12:15 PM 2011
Rightââ,¬Â¦

With Eluka numbers, betting Odd/Even we ended the session with 43 units give or take.

Thank you

My next post will be the system...
Title: Re: F-N.O.N System/Method/Theory.....Whatever?
Post by: buffalowizard on Mar 01, 01:55 PM 2011
Looking forward to it frost, always good reading up on new systems.

BW
Title: Re: F-N.O.N System/Method/Theory.....Whatever?
Post by: chrisbis on Mar 01, 04:20 PM 2011
Quote from: frost on Mar 01, 12:15 PM 2011
Rightââ,¬Â¦

With Eluka numbers, betting Odd/Even we ended the session with 43 units give or take.

Thank you

My next post will be the system...

Glad U were able to complete Ur 'TASK'

But tell me..................... 43 units.....................

Plus or Minus? ? ? ? ? ?
Title: Re: F-N.O.N System/Method/Theory.....Whatever?
Post by: buffalowizard on Mar 01, 04:46 PM 2011
I think when he said finishing 'with' 43 units, means he was in the plus...let's hope so for the benefit of the system anyway!
Title: Re: F-N.O.N System/Method/Theory.....Whatever?
Post by: frost on Mar 01, 06:57 PM 2011
 :D

you guys are funny. it was plus 43 units. give or take a few in case of error on my part.

next

the system.....
Title: Re: F-N.O.N System/Method/Theory.....Whatever?
Post by: frost on Mar 01, 07:12 PM 2011
 F-N.O.N System

F-N.O.N stands for Frosts Natural Order of Numbers.

The system is simple.

We will pick an even chance. We will bet each time 1 of the 2 bets shows.

However we will only bet a maximum of twice per showing.

Example.

Our EC is Red/Black

Our first spin shows R. we will bet that the next outcome will also be R.

If we win, then we will wait till a change of colour then do the same bet.
If we lose we will bet that the next outcome will still be R

So like this ââ,¬â€œ Stage 1

A win:

R ââ,¬â€œ first spin. We will bet R
R ââ,¬â€œ we win. Now wait for a B to show then repeat.

A loss:

R ââ,¬â€œ first spin. We will bet R
B ââ,¬â€œ we lose. We will predict the next out come will be R so we continue to bet R
R ââ,¬â€œ we win. We will now wait for a B

If we lose our stage 1 bet then for our next bet we will expect a trend and follow the table. This is our stage 2 bet

So like this ââ,¬â€œ lost stage 1. Stage 2 bet

R ââ,¬â€œ first spin. We will bet R
B ââ,¬â€œ we lose. We will predict the next out come will be R so we continue to bet R
B ââ,¬â€œ we lose. We will now wait for a B
R
R
B ââ,¬â€œ B has shown so our bet will be B (like in stage 1)
R ââ,¬â€œ we have lost. Unlike stage 1 where we would expect the outcome to change and so bet the opposite of the last outcome in stage 2 we are predicting the start of a trend and so follow the last spin.
R- we win. We will now wait for a B then bet stage 1.

So stage 1 bet is like this ââ,¬â€œ follow the last spin & bet the opposite
And stage 2 is like this ââ,¬â€œ follow the last spin & follow the last spin.
In case of a zero

In case of a zero we will bet on the colour that comes after the first colour shown after the zero.

Example

R ââ,¬â€œ we spin R. our next bet is R
R ââ,¬â€œ we win. We will now wait for B to show and then bet B
0 ââ,¬â€œ we have a zero. Here we will bet the opposite of the colour shown after the zero.
R ââ,¬â€œ we have R. so we will wait for B to show then bet.
0 ââ,¬â€œ another zero
B ââ,¬â€œ now we have a B shown after the zero. We will no wait for R to show before we bet
B
R ââ,¬â€œ bet here.

If you lose this bet you will play a stage 1 bet.

In short the system should be playedââ,¬Â¦.

Bet stage 1. win. Bet stage 1. lose. Bet stage 2. lose. Bet stage 1 win.
Or
Bet stage 1. lose. Bet stage 2. lose. Bet stage 1. lose. Bet stage 2. win
Or
Bet stage 1. lose. Zero. Bet stage 1. lose. Bet stage 2 lose. Bet stage 1 win.
Or
Bet stage 1. lose. Zero. Bet stage 1. lose. Zero. Bet stage 1. winââ,¬Â¦..

We will use a standard martingale. I play with the lowest unit being 0.10 which means I get 10 progressions out of a BR of $110.

And thatââ,¬â,,¢s it reallyââ,¬Â¦.

Any improvements are welcomed.
Any questions will be answered.

Thank you.


Title: Re: F-N.O.N System/Method/Theory.....Whatever?
Post by: albalaha on Mar 02, 06:37 AM 2011
Quote
We will use a standard martingale. I play with the lowest unit being 0.10 which means I get 10 progressions out of a BR of $110.

Dear Frost,
            Martingale looks likea panacea but ineed it is a disease in itself.
Title: Re: F-N.O.N System/Method/Theory.....Whatever?
Post by: frost on Mar 02, 12:32 PM 2011
Quote from: albalaha on Mar 02, 06:37 AM 2011
Dear Frost,
            Martingale looks likea panacea but ineed it is a disease in itself.


Dont quite understand your point but like i said feel free to make any improvements. A progression is not always part of a system, and in this case it isn't.
Title: Re: F-N.O.N System/Method/Theory.....Whatever?
Post by: superman on Mar 02, 01:28 PM 2011
Hi frost

Can you explain it a bit easier, for us dumb ones, somethinglike this

spin 1 red

bet red (for how long?)

if win, do what

if lose do what

etc

I am going to bot it hopefully so I can test it thouroughly for you.
Title: Re: F-N.O.N System/Method/Theory.....Whatever?
Post by: frost on Mar 02, 01:44 PM 2011
hello Superman

thank you for your offer but i already have a bot of the system.

its written in pascal if you understand it.

i could send you the description i used to get they system written if that helps.

my explination of the system is not as clear as the description so if you still want it ill send it over to you.
Title: Re: F-N.O.N System/Method/Theory.....Whatever?
Post by: superman on Mar 02, 02:17 PM 2011
yes please send it over
Title: Re: F-N.O.N System/Method/Theory.....Whatever?
Post by: vundarosa on Mar 11, 04:07 PM 2011
@Frost

can you re post the system. The thread is full of blank post

Vundarosa
Title: Re: F-N.O.N System/Method/Theory.....Whatever?
Post by: frost on Mar 11, 04:29 PM 2011
F-N.O.N System

F-N.O.N stands for Frosts Natural Order of Numbers.

The system is simple.

We will pick an even chance. We will bet each time 1 of the 2 bets shows.

However we will only bet a maximum of twice per showing.

Example.

Our EC is Red/Black

Our first spin shows R. we will bet that the next outcome will also be R.

If we win, then we will wait till a change of colour then do the same bet.
If we lose we will bet that the next outcome will still be R

So like this â€ââ,¬Å" Stage 1

A win:

R â€ââ,¬Å" first spin. We will bet R
R â€ââ,¬Å" we win. Now wait for a B to show then repeat.

A loss:

R â€ââ,¬Å" first spin. We will bet R
B â€ââ,¬Å" we lose. We will predict the next out come will be R so we continue to bet R
R â€ââ,¬Å" we win. We will now wait for a B

If we lose our stage 1 bet then for our next bet we will expect a trend and follow the table. This is our stage 2 bet

So like this â€ââ,¬Å" lost stage 1. Stage 2 bet

R â€ââ,¬Å" first spin. We will bet R
B â€ââ,¬Å" we lose. We will predict the next out come will be R so we continue to bet R
B â€ââ,¬Å" we lose. We will now wait for a B
R
R
B â€ââ,¬Å" B has shown so our bet will be B (like in stage 1)
R â€ââ,¬Å" we have lost. Unlike stage 1 where we would expect the outcome to change and so bet the opposite of the last outcome in stage 2 we are predicting the start of a trend and so follow the last spin.
R- we win. We will now wait for a B then bet stage 1.

So stage 1 bet is like this â€ââ,¬Å" follow the last spin & bet the opposite
And stage 2 is like this â€ââ,¬Å" follow the last spin & follow the last spin.
In case of a zero

In case of a zero we will bet on the colour that comes after the first colour shown after the zero.

Example

R â€ââ,¬Å" we spin R. our next bet is R
R â€ââ,¬Å" we win. We will now wait for B to show and then bet B
0 â€ââ,¬Å" we have a zero. Here we will bet the opposite of the colour shown after the zero.
R â€ââ,¬Å" we have R. so we will wait for B to show then bet.
0 â€ââ,¬Å" another zero
B â€ââ,¬Å" now we have a B shown after the zero. We will no wait for R to show before we bet
B
R â€ââ,¬Å" bet here.

If you lose this bet you will play a stage 1 bet.

In short the system should be playedâ€Ã,¦.

Bet stage 1. win. Bet stage 1. lose. Bet stage 2. lose. Bet stage 1 win.
Or
Bet stage 1. lose. Bet stage 2. lose. Bet stage 1. lose. Bet stage 2. win
Or
Bet stage 1. lose. Zero. Bet stage 1. lose. Bet stage 2 lose. Bet stage 1 win.
Or
Bet stage 1. lose. Zero. Bet stage 1. lose. Zero. Bet stage 1. winâ€Ã,¦..

We will use a standard martingale. I play with the lowest unit being 0.10 which means I get 10 progressions out of a BR of $110.

And that’s it reallyâ€Ã,¦.

Any improvements are welcomed.
Any questions will be answered.

Thank you.