Dear friends,
I have done lots of researches over this. Be it RNG roulette or Live roulette, the one and only reason for big losses is random nature of the game. Random simply means unordered and unpredictible. Which number will be generated next or where the ball will land after spinning around the wheel can not be predicted.Then, a question comes to our mind as to how should we play it to win atlast; or should we quit playing it, since it is unconquerable?
I have some solutions to this essential problem which I will be writing further in this thread and I invite the experts to give their opinion to defeat randomness atleast in long run and even with minimum profit.
My techniques of beating randomness:
1. Albalaha's smart progression: So far, you have seen Martingale, D'almbert's, Labouchere, Paroli and many more. A system is nothing but bet selection and progression. A systems/techniques/methods ask you take either even chances bet (red/black/high/low/even/odd) or dozens or columns or six numbers, four numbers, three numbers etc and suggest a progression. What is the consequence? The easiest looking method kills you most like Martingale in which if you win 63 times and lose once you lose all winnings of 63 times.
My progression is my biggest tool to defeat randomness of all forms of roulette and minimises losses.
What I suggest: Take any bet from single straight up or split or trio or corner or line or street or dozen/column or any EC ( whatever you chose to bet upon should have appeared within one break-even winning point of itself and not sleepers, for example if you want to pick 1-2-3 line bet it should have appeared at least once within last 12 spins)... try 1 unit only till it breaks even. For example, if you took a line bet of 1-2-3 then in the first step you will keep putting 1 unit on the line of three numbers till either one of the numbers(1 or 2 or 3) appears or 12 steps (break-even point) reaches, whichever happens first. In case of winning before break-even point, you can pick another or stick to the earlier as you wish and startup again and play till it reaches break-even point.
In case of loss, the real battle begins. What you need to do is to wait till your picked set of numbers (line of 1-2-3) appear in due course( do not bet onit till it reappears because it can go sleeper for a very long time) and then start betting on it again with 2 units till it gets hit or another break even point on 2 units reaches, here in the given example 12 times again.
If you win in your second attempt anywhere, just calculate your net profit/net loss. If you are at net profit or even at no profit, no loss, start from begining. In case of net loss even after winning in second round, you will play again with 2 units till you reach net profit.
In case your second round also fails, you keep waiting for another trigger as suggested ( appearance of your selected numbers when you are not betting on it , is trigger for you) and this time bet with 4 units similarly. Check net profit/loss till this step and in case of a net loss even after hitting desired number, then start with 4 unit again till one break-even point.
This tricky progression of mine will surely safeguard you from sleepers and will get you optimum profit in case of streaks. I do not suggest more than three rounds but considering your bankroll and table limits, you can go one step ahead also. This smart progression of mine is best suited to live roulette and with line or street bets.
Can anybody suggest a better and safer playstyle? Please comment with your suggestions and queries. This smart progression of mine can give birth to hundreds of systems. Call it Albalaha's smart progression and get benefits from using it sensibly.
Thanks for sharing your smart progression with us dear Albalaha.
It deserves to have its own thread! (to increase visibility)! :thumbsup:
This is a progression I usually play on lines. I wait for a line to hit exactly twice in 12 spins and then play the first 8 step progression. If it doesn't hit then I re track and play the second 8 step progression and so on. I haven't gone past the 3rd progression as of yet.
I usually aim for $ 20-25 a session and then stop.
It's a slow grind but sometimes I hit often within the first 8 step progression so it doesn't take me too long to reach my target.
1) Bet: $ 0.5 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 2.5 Bankroll Needed: $0.5
2) Bet: $ 0.5 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 2 Bankroll Needed: $1
3) Bet: $ 0.5 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 1.5 Bankroll Needed: $1.5
4) Bet: $ 0.5 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $2
5) Bet: $ 1.5 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 5.5 Bankroll Needed: $3.5
6) Bet: $ 1.5 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 4 Bankroll Needed: $5
7) Bet: $ 1.5 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 2.5 Bankroll Needed: $6.5
8) Bet: $ 1.5 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 1 Bankroll Needed: $8
1) Bet: $ 2 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 10 Bankroll Needed: $2
2) Bet: $ 3 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 13 Bankroll Needed: $5
3) Bet: $ 3 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 10 Bankroll Needed: $8
4) Bet: $ 4 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 12 Bankroll Needed: $12
5) Bet: $ 5 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 13 Bankroll Needed: $17
6) Bet: $ 6 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 13 Bankroll Needed: $23
7) Bet: $ 7 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 12 Bankroll Needed: $30
8) Bet: $ 8 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 10 Bankroll Needed: $38
1) Bet: $ 8 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 40 Bankroll Needed: $8
2) Bet: $ 10 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 42 Bankroll Needed: $18
3) Bet: $ 12 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 42 Bankroll Needed: $30
4) Bet: $ 14 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 40 Bankroll Needed: $44
5) Bet: $ 17 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 41 Bankroll Needed: $61
6) Bet: $ 20 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 39 Bankroll Needed: $81
7) Bet: $ 24 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 39 Bankroll Needed: $105
8) Bet: $ 29 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 40 Bankroll Needed: $134
1) Bet: $ 27 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 135 Bankroll Needed: $27
2) Bet: $ 33 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 138 Bankroll Needed: $60
3) Bet: $ 39 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 135 Bankroll Needed: $99
4) Bet: $ 47 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 136 Bankroll Needed: $146
5) Bet: $ 57 on 1 spots. Profit on a Win: $ 139 Bankroll Needed: $203
Total of $383
Thanks Victor for encouraging. Thanks Furple for your input, but I would always suggest a cycle of spins where if we win, we can break-even, because after it, progression is the only solution, so giving something full oportunity to appear.
My main presumption behind this smart progression is that, a particular number or set of numbers can not appear everytime in a single pattern.
Can any expert suggest a better progression? I invite Winkel, Hermes,GLC, Jordon, Mr.J,Compa and Thomasgrant etc. to comment upon this progression. ;)
Soon, I will be righting upon bet selection as what could be the best bet and why. Everything with reasoning.
Furple that's ALES system. I play it successfully for long time. It works but with your progression you cannot go to land casino. You can play the same way 1 or 3 streets coming exactly 2 times in 12 spins. If zero comes during the 12 spins take one more spin. You can play also straight with your progression 28 spins - the same 2 streets. 99,9% they hit - but newer real money on RNGs!
Albalaha, no 1-2-2-4 but 1-2-4. Otherwise it is not a bad approach. I would chose the most coming or even better the average coming 4 streets (Gauss Bell effect). Not the sleepers, not the best, just the average.
I played this way long time ago and in most cases it works. Wait 12 spins and next 12 spins bet medium coming 4 streets flat with 1 unit. If in minus after 12 spins bet next 12 spins 2 units for the new 4 medium streets, if not in plus again bet the next 12 spins with 4 units with updated medium 4 streets. Most of the time you will be after 2 units bet in plus. The game is fun and you cannot lose a lot. Better than slots or BJ for sure.
Hermes
Albalaha,
I have played your system for about 325 spins. I played this way: Betting a street. I pick the street that spun 4th back. This is pretty safe not to get sleeper. Kind of like an extended penultimate. I bet 1 unit until win. If no win within 6 bets, select new 4th street and bet 2 units until win. If no win within 6 bets, do same but bet 4 units. If win betting 2 units but not at new high, continue to bet same street for another win or 6 losses. I do not go to 2 units unless I am down 6 or more and I do not go to 4 units unless I am down 18 or more.
I played until I was +84 units. I didn't get to the 4 unit bet. The most I was down was -16 units. This seems to be a stable way to play. Occasionally you will lose at the 4 unit level. I was wondering if when this happens we might use Hermes' leveler idea and keep playing at 4 units until even or plus.
Seems to make a reasonable return per spin and can run up some good wins when we catch streaks.
I will continue to test to see how it feels when I have a loss.
George.
Any chance we could get to see this kind of progression in a video?
With real spins?
I am a very visual person.
That why I do so many videos.
Dear thomas,
offcourse I can make a video presentation of this progression on betvoyager or skyvegas. Can you please tell me which video capture tool do you use to make these videos? By the way what is your idea on my smart progression?
Quote from: albalaha on Aug 08, 11:33 PM 2010
Dear thomas,
offcourse I can make a video presentation of this progression on betvoyager or skyvegas. Can you please tell me which video capture tool do you use to make these videos? By the way what is your idea on my smart progression?
I think I already stated that I use Camtasia. But there are other tools out there that can do the same thing.
As for the progressions.
I don't fully understand how they work.
That is why I need a visual guide.
To see the progression in action.
:) dear Thomas,
If a balanced person like you could not understand what I said then I think I have to rewrite it again with simpler words.
What I suggest is, take a bet like street bet of 1-2-3. You can try it upto 12 times when your winning and cost will break even without any progression i.e. 1 unit. If you win before or at 12th try there is no loss or some profit for sure. In such case either you try the same bet again for upto 12 spins.
In case you do not win within 12 spins you would not bet on it further but note down your loss of 12 units on it and keep playing other set of numbers till the number which lost you 12 units appear. Just after that you would start putting 2 units on each for upto 12 spins ( you would stop wherever you win), if you win this time, you would calculate your net profit/loss, if there is no net loss you will start betting on it or any other chosen set of numbers for 12 more times(break-even point), if you lose even this time you would wait again for any of your lost set of numbers to appear again and again you would bet upto 12 times on it with 4 units.
In case even after winning at some point you are net loss then you would keep betting with your last progression unit(2 or 4) till you get a net profit.
The main logic behind this progression is to avoid sleepers' attack and the fact that a number can not turn hot and cold at same time for three steps in a go.
Why not just show me?
Like I asked you to.
Have notepad with the progressions in them.
So I can see what you are doing.
Jeezz, I didn't ask for the Spanish Inquisition.
Perhaps I should ask Tiago to look into this.
He knows systems and progressions inside and out.
Quote from: albalaha on Aug 09, 12:22 AM 2010
:) dear Thomas,
If a balanced person like you could not understand what I said then I think I have to rewrite it again with simpler words.
What I suggest is, take a bet like street bet of 1-2-3. You can try it upto 12 times when your winning and cost will break even without any progression i.e. 1 unit. If you win before or at 12th try there is no loss or some profit for sure. In such case either you try the same bet again for upto 12 spins.
In case you do not win within 12 spins you would not bet on it further but note down your loss of 12 units on it and keep playing other set of numbers till the number which lost you 12 units appear. Just after that you would start putting 2 units on each for upto 12 spins ( you would stop wherever you win), if you win this time, you would calculate your net profit/loss, if there is no net loss you will start betting on it or any other chosen set of numbers for 12 more times(break-even point), if you lose even this time you would wait again for any of your lost set of numbers to appear again and again you would bet upto 12 times on it with 4 units.
In case even after winning at some point you are net loss then you would keep betting with your last progression unit(2 or 4) till you get a net profit.
The main logic behind this progression is to avoid sleepers' attack and the fact that a number can not turn hot and cold at same time for three steps in a go.
Albalaha,
Just for clarification. If you are betting 1 unit on 1-2-3 and it sleeps for 12 spins. You then pick another line, say 4-5-6 and begin betting 1 unit on it until a win or sleep for 12 spins. If it also sleeps for 12 spins, you then pick another line, say 7-8-9 and begin betting 1 unit on it until a win or sleeps for 12 spins. If at anytime you are playing lines 4-5-6 or 7-8-9 and line 1-2-3 hits, you immediately begin playing line 1-2-3 for 2 units for up to 12 spins or a hit resulting in a profit, concurrently with any other lines that are active.
This would mean that you are playing multiple lines at the same time. Possibly as many as 3 or 4. You would do this based on the assumption that a line very rarely misses hitting 2 times in 13 spins for 3 sets in a row.
George
Offcourse George,
Very true. The progression is best suited to line bets i.e. 1-6, 7-12 etc.
Quote from: albalaha on Jul 18, 01:12 AM 2010
Dear friends,
I have done lots of researches over this. Be it RNG roulette or Live roulette, the one and only reason for big losses is random nature of the game. Random simply means unordered and unpredictible. Which number will be generated next or where the ball will land after spinning around the wheel can not be predicted.Then, a question comes to our mind as to how should we play it to win atlast; or should we quit playing it, since it is unconquerable?
I have some solutions to this essential problem which I will be writing further in this thread and I invite the experts to give their opinion to defeat randomness atleast in long run and even with minimum profit.
I like the idea behind this thread, I would like to revive it !
Well ... it's true that roulette is chaotic but one fact is stable :
lets forget the 0 for a while, the fact is :
In x number of spins, there will be near 50/50 chance of EC.
Now suppose you can monitor 25 spins, you are then interested in recording the outcomes from your random betselection against these 25 bets... at this point you will either be > 50 or < 50
If your bet selection was > 50 then the wheel is not saturated enough to start playing, wait for your betselection to Drop to <50 then start betting, there will be high chance that at the 50th spin the wheel will be saturated and your bets selection has hit enough