in case anyone cares to try and follow and explain this.... something I came across....
Manila system
This new system combines two winning chances, which actually nothing to do with each other, but (even so?) Profit stunning results:
The 6 transversals Alen Simple with the 6 simple chances
Any natural number (except Zero) by 1-36 is a certain Simple Transversal assign:
1 to 6 = Simple Transversal 1
7-12 = Simple Transversal 2
13-18 = Simple Transversal 3
19-24 = Simple Transversal 4
25-30 = Transversal Simple 5
31-36 = Transversal Simple 6
Similarly, we arrange the six easy chances for a number from 1 to 6 to:
Manque = 1
Impair = 2
Red = 3
Black = 4
Pair = 5
Passe = 6
Sun is set:
The principle is that chance that simple set, whose Atomic number in the previous coup has been identified. Example:
It appeared the 15, which is the 3rd Simple Transversal.
So on red set, because red is also the atomic number 3.
It also implies that the simple chance now appears, whose Atomic number one has identified. You can also do the opposite and Failure to show up. This is a matter of opinion. The result is usually the same.
So progressiert:
After limited Martingale-Progression (= San progression) as before explained.
So a piece, two pieces in failure, failure in 4 pieces, failure to 8 pieces. In general, within these four Progression levels.
When it came to a Platzer (what happened to me almost every day - often
several times - happens, I double with 1 piece or re - weitergesetzt in failure with 2 double plays in failure with 4 Double plays in failure with 8 double plays.
Within these 8 progression steps you take to 99 percent. And within
Profit rates of 7 has previously lost 15 pieces back won.
The Manila system is extremely profitable. I very rarely one day experiences, which I would be at a loss heimgegangen. Per hour are easily 10 Plus pieces achievable, despite interim Platzer.
Condition is that you
a) does not lose its nerve and described progression plan different, even if two or three times in quick succession Platzer come (only not afraid phases with longer be Platzern
Without such routes back more than offset). And b) it has sufficient capital, with a logically the other conditionally. I have always played with 155 pieces, which I even 4 consecutive Platzer (!) could offset and had at least same number of pieces as psychological in cash in reserve.
I took part in this by myself also developed system like that permanently could play without long waiting times to record signals, pictures etc.
The Zero
affects the rate technology. It is regarded as a failure,
that according to plan further progressiert.
Booking example, using an original permanence (Bad Duerkheim,
1.9.96):
15 15 = 3 TS. It follows: 1 piece on red (3). It appears:
28 failure, as black. 28 = 5 TS. It follows: 2 pieces to pair (5).
It appears:
31 failure, because Impair. 31 = 6 TS It follows: 4 on passports (= 6).
It appears:
17 failure, because Manque 17 = 3 It follows TS: 8 pieces to red (3).
It appears:
36 hits, as Red 36 = 6 TS It follows: 1 piece on passports (= 6)
It appears:
13 failure, because Manque 13 = 3 TS It follows: 2 pieces to red (3)
It appears:
33 failure, because black 33 = 6 TS It follows: 4 on passports (= 6)
It appears:
23 hits, as Passe 23 = 4 TS It follows: 1 piece on Black (4)
It appears:
35 hits, as Black 35 = 6 TS It follows: 1 piece on passports (= 6)
It appears:
26 hits, as Passe 26 = 5 TS It follows: 1 piece on Pair (= 5)
It appears:
24 matches since Pair 24 = 4 TS It follows: 1 piece on Black (4)
It appears:
35 hits, as Black 35 = 6 TS It follows: 1 piece on passports (= 6)
It appears:
11 failure, because Manque 11 = 2 TS It follows: 2 pieces to Impair (2)
It appears:
3 results, as Impair 3 = 1 TS It follows: 1 piece on Manque (= 1)
It appears:
31 failure, because Passe 31 = 6 TS It follows: 2 pieces on passports (= 6)
It appears:
11 failure, because Manque 11 = 2 TS. It follows: 4 to Impair (2)
It appears:
9 matches since Impair 9 = 2 TS It follows: 1 piece to Impair (2)
It appears:
13 results, as Impair 13 = 3 TS It follows: 1 piece of red (= 3)
It appears:
9 matches since Impair 9 = 2 TS It follows: 1 piece to Impair (2)
It appears:
10 failure, because Pair 10 = 2 TS It follows: 2 pieces to Impair (2)
It appears:
20 failure, because Pair 20 = 4 TS It follows: 4 on Black (4)
It appears:
36 failure, because Red 36 = 6 It follows TS: 8 pieces on passports (= 6)
It appears:
Even the 4th Progression stage failed (loss: 15 pieces), so with
Double progressiert new pieces:
8 failure because Manque 8 = 2 TS It follows: 1 DoppelstÃÆ'Ã,¼. to Impair (2)
It appears:
12 failure, because Pair 12 = 2 It follows TS: 2 DoppelstÃÆ'Ã,¼. to Impair (2)
It appears:
5 results because Impair 5 = 1 TS It follows: 1 DoppelstÃÆ'Ã,¼. Manque to (1)
It appears:
24 failure, because Passe 24 = 4 It follows TS: 2 DoppelstÃÆ'Ã,¼. on Black (4)
It appears:
12 failure, because Red 12 = 2 It follows TS: 4 DoppelstÃÆ'Ã,¼. to Impair (2)
It appears:
27 hits, as Impair 27 = 5 TS It follows: 1 DoppelstÃÆ'Ã,¼. Pair to (5)
5 0
It appears:
10 matches since Pair 10 = 2 TS It follows: 1 DoppelstÃÆ'Ã,¼. to Impair (2)
It appears:
36 failure, because Pair 36 = 6 It follows TS: 2 DoppelstÃÆ'Ã,¼. on passports (= 6)
It appears:
19 hits, as Passe 19 = 4 TS It follows: 1 DoppelstÃÆ'Ã,¼. on Black (4)
It appears:
13 results, as Black 13 = 3 TS It follows: 1 DoppelstÃÆ'Ã,¼. to red (3)
It appears:
5 results, as Red 5 = 1 TS It follows: 1 DoppelstÃÆ'Ã,¼. Manque to (1)
It appears:
3 results, as Manque 3 = 1 TS It follows: 1 piece on Manque (= 1)
It appears:
The last matches were lost 15 pieces back and still won
1 piece well. Now it is again with normal progression with a plot
further.
3 results, as Manque 3 = 1 TS It follows: 1 piece on Manque (1)
appears:
and so on
WOW! I thought I knew my stuff. This is a ton to digest, thanks for posting.
Ken
Red,
I have read your post and feel that I understand it completely.
Every spin fits in 1 of the 6 lines.
Each line number is represented by one of the 6 even chance bets.
When a number spins, we identify the line it belongs to and this signals the even chance that we will bet on for next spin.
We use a 4-step mini-martingale progression.
If we happen to lose a 4-step series, the next series is at double the amount. That is, our 1st level is 1-2-4-8 and if we lose these 15 units, we commence betting 2-4-8-16 or as he does we continue to bet 1-2-4-8 but the amount of our unit is doubled.
Once we recover the lost 15 units, we return to 1-2-4-8 at our base unit size.
He doesn't address what to do if we happen to lose while betting 2-4-8-16 which I am sure will come up soon enough.
If the system is as stable as he indicates, I wouldn't be afraid to double again to 4-8-16-32 to recover the 30 units lost at 2-4-8-16.
I might set a limit at 8-16-32-64 and play at that level until I finally recover or if you have enough bankroll, you could keep doubling until you finally hit that winning streak that wins enough times without a loss to recover completely.
If you read my topics, you will know that I'm a big fan of the limited martingale and multiple levels to recover losses.
I will try this system to see if it is as good as he says.
Thanks very much for posting it.
George
Hi Guys,
Wow! This a strange one! Here is what I did in just around 15 minutes:
1/2/3/4/5/6<----These are the 6 lines
L E R B O H<----These are the ECs that that are connected to.
For example, if a number in the 4-line showed up (22) you bet on Black. If you lost that bet, and a number in the 6-line shows up, you bet on High.
I used a 4-step marti 1-2-4-8...I only reached the fourth step once.
I was +$130 and stopped. I'm sorry I forgot to count the spins.
Since I have no access to real spins, this was done on RGN at Bodog Casino.
Not much of a test but I was surprised enough that I plan on testing a lot more.
Scooby Doo
Hi Guys,
Well, I just racked up another $130....keep in mind I am using $5.00 units
Two sessions= $260.00
This is amazing! I never went beyond the 4th level of the progression. After you play it for a while, you don't need any cheat sheets. You can remember 1 goes with low, 2 goes with even, 3 goes with red, 4 goes with black, 5 goes with odd and 6 goes with high.
Scooby Doo
Hi Scoob. I did some tests on live numbers as you suggested. I did 43 spin. At the start it looked very good. Until 31. spin I have never had to go for 3rd step in progression. But from 32nd to 38th spin I didn't have a hit. That would be 7th step in progression. I can Pm results to you if you want.
Regards
Drazen
Not bad, just did a quick dirty bot test, 200 spins, heres the results
[reveal]L Prog 1 Cash -1 Peak 0 WinRatio 0%
L Prog 2 Cash -3 Peak 0 WinRatio 0%
L Prog 4 Cash -7 Peak 0 WinRatio 0%
L Prog 8 Cash -15 Peak 0 WinRatio 0%
W Prog 16 Cash 1 Peak 0 WinRatio 20%
L Prog 1 Cash 0 Peak 1 WinRatio 16.67%
W Prog 2 Cash 2 Peak 1 WinRatio 28.57%
L Prog 1 Cash 1 Peak 2 WinRatio 25%
W Prog 2 Cash 3 Peak 2 WinRatio 33.33%
W Prog 1 Cash 4 Peak 3 WinRatio 40%
L Prog 1 Cash 3 Peak 4 WinRatio 36.36%
W Prog 2 Cash 5 Peak 4 WinRatio 41.67%
L Prog 1 Cash 4 Peak 5 WinRatio 38.46%
W Prog 2 Cash 6 Peak 5 WinRatio 42.86%
W Prog 1 Cash 7 Peak 6 WinRatio 46.67%
W Prog 1 Cash 8 Peak 7 WinRatio 50%
W Prog 1 Cash 9 Peak 8 WinRatio 52.94%
W Prog 1 Cash 10 Peak 9 WinRatio 55.56%
W Prog 1 Cash 11 Peak 10 WinRatio 57.89%
W Prog 1 Cash 12 Peak 11 WinRatio 60%
W Prog 1 Cash 13 Peak 12 WinRatio 61.9%
L Prog 1 Cash 12 Peak 13 WinRatio 59.09%
W Prog 2 Cash 14 Peak 13 WinRatio 60.87%
L Prog 1 Cash 13 Peak 14 WinRatio 58.33%
L Prog 2 Cash 11 Peak 14 WinRatio 56%
L Prog 4 Cash 7 Peak 14 WinRatio 53.85%
W Prog 8 Cash 15 Peak 14 WinRatio 55.56%
L Prog 1 Cash 14 Peak 15 WinRatio 53.57%
W Prog 2 Cash 16 Peak 15 WinRatio 55.17%
L Prog 1 Cash 15 Peak 16 WinRatio 53.33%
L Prog 2 Cash 13 Peak 16 WinRatio 51.61%
W Prog 4 Cash 17 Peak 16 WinRatio 53.13%
L Prog 1 Cash 16 Peak 17 WinRatio 51.52%
W Prog 2 Cash 18 Peak 17 WinRatio 52.94%
L Prog 1 Cash 17 Peak 18 WinRatio 51.43%
W Prog 2 Cash 19 Peak 18 WinRatio 52.78%
L Prog 1 Cash 18 Peak 19 WinRatio 51.35%
W Prog 2 Cash 20 Peak 19 WinRatio 52.63%
W Prog 1 Cash 21 Peak 20 WinRatio 53.85%
L Prog 1 Cash 20 Peak 21 WinRatio 52.5%
W Prog 2 Cash 22 Peak 21 WinRatio 53.66%
L Prog 1 Cash 21 Peak 22 WinRatio 52.38%
L Prog 2 Cash 19 Peak 22 WinRatio 51.16%
W Prog 4 Cash 23 Peak 22 WinRatio 52.27%
W Prog 1 Cash 24 Peak 23 WinRatio 53.33%
W Prog 1 Cash 25 Peak 24 WinRatio 54.35%
W Prog 1 Cash 26 Peak 25 WinRatio 55.32%
W Prog 1 Cash 27 Peak 26 WinRatio 56.25%
L Prog 1 Cash 26 Peak 27 WinRatio 55.1%
W Prog 2 Cash 28 Peak 27 WinRatio 56%
L Prog 1 Cash 27 Peak 28 WinRatio 54.9%
L Prog 2 Cash 25 Peak 28 WinRatio 53.85%
L Prog 4 Cash 21 Peak 28 WinRatio 52.83%
L Prog 8 Cash 13 Peak 28 WinRatio 51.85%
W Prog 16 Cash 29 Peak 28 WinRatio 52.73%
L Prog 1 Cash 28 Peak 29 WinRatio 51.79%
L Prog 2 Cash 26 Peak 29 WinRatio 50.88%
W Prog 4 Cash 30 Peak 29 WinRatio 51.72%
W Prog 1 Cash 31 Peak 30 WinRatio 52.54%
W Prog 1 Cash 32 Peak 31 WinRatio 53.33%
L Prog 1 Cash 31 Peak 32 WinRatio 52.46%
L Prog 2 Cash 29 Peak 32 WinRatio 51.61%
W Prog 4 Cash 33 Peak 32 WinRatio 52.38%
L Prog 1 Cash 32 Peak 33 WinRatio 51.56%
L Prog 2 Cash 30 Peak 33 WinRatio 50.77%
W Prog 4 Cash 34 Peak 33 WinRatio 51.52%
W Prog 1 Cash 35 Peak 34 WinRatio 52.24%
L Prog 1 Cash 34 Peak 35 WinRatio 51.47%
W Prog 2 Cash 36 Peak 35 WinRatio 52.17%
L Prog 1 Cash 35 Peak 36 WinRatio 51.43%
W Prog 2 Cash 37 Peak 36 WinRatio 52.11%
L Prog 1 Cash 36 Peak 37 WinRatio 51.39%
W Prog 2 Cash 38 Peak 37 WinRatio 52.05%
W Prog 1 Cash 39 Peak 38 WinRatio 52.7%
L Prog 1 Cash 38 Peak 39 WinRatio 52%
W Prog 2 Cash 40 Peak 39 WinRatio 52.63%
W Prog 1 Cash 41 Peak 40 WinRatio 53.25%
W Prog 1 Cash 42 Peak 41 WinRatio 53.85%
L Prog 1 Cash 41 Peak 42 WinRatio 53.16%
L Prog 2 Cash 39 Peak 42 WinRatio 52.5%
W Prog 4 Cash 43 Peak 42 WinRatio 53.09%
W Prog 1 Cash 44 Peak 43 WinRatio 53.66%
L Prog 1 Cash 43 Peak 44 WinRatio 53.01%
L Prog 2 Cash 41 Peak 44 WinRatio 52.38%
W Prog 4 Cash 45 Peak 44 WinRatio 52.94%
L Prog 1 Cash 44 Peak 45 WinRatio 52.33%
W Prog 2 Cash 46 Peak 45 WinRatio 52.87%
L Prog 1 Cash 45 Peak 46 WinRatio 52.27%
W Prog 2 Cash 47 Peak 46 WinRatio 52.81%
L Prog 1 Cash 46 Peak 47 WinRatio 52.22%
W Prog 2 Cash 48 Peak 47 WinRatio 52.75%
W Prog 1 Cash 49 Peak 48 WinRatio 53.26%
L Prog 1 Cash 48 Peak 49 WinRatio 52.69%
W Prog 2 Cash 50 Peak 49 WinRatio 53.19%
W Prog 1 Cash 51 Peak 50 WinRatio 53.68%
W Prog 1 Cash 52 Peak 51 WinRatio 54.17%
L Prog 1 Cash 51 Peak 52 WinRatio 53.61%
W Prog 2 Cash 53 Peak 52 WinRatio 54.08%
L Prog 1 Cash 52 Peak 53 WinRatio 53.54%
L Prog 2 Cash 50 Peak 53 WinRatio 53%
W Prog 4 Cash 54 Peak 53 WinRatio 53.47%
W Prog 1 Cash 55 Peak 54 WinRatio 53.92%
W Prog 1 Cash 56 Peak 55 WinRatio 54.37%
L Prog 1 Cash 55 Peak 56 WinRatio 53.85%
L Prog 2 Cash 53 Peak 56 WinRatio 53.33%
W Prog 4 Cash 57 Peak 56 WinRatio 53.77%
L Prog 1 Cash 56 Peak 57 WinRatio 53.27%
L Prog 2 Cash 54 Peak 57 WinRatio 52.78%
W Prog 4 Cash 58 Peak 57 WinRatio 53.21%
L Prog 1 Cash 57 Peak 58 WinRatio 52.73%
L Prog 2 Cash 55 Peak 58 WinRatio 52.25%
W Prog 4 Cash 59 Peak 58 WinRatio 52.68%
L Prog 1 Cash 58 Peak 59 WinRatio 52.21%
L Prog 2 Cash 56 Peak 59 WinRatio 51.75%
W Prog 4 Cash 60 Peak 59 WinRatio 52.17%
L Prog 1 Cash 59 Peak 60 WinRatio 51.72%
W Prog 2 Cash 61 Peak 60 WinRatio 52.14%
L Prog 1 Cash 60 Peak 61 WinRatio 51.69%
W Prog 2 Cash 62 Peak 61 WinRatio 52.1%
L Prog 1 Cash 61 Peak 62 WinRatio 51.67%
W Prog 2 Cash 63 Peak 62 WinRatio 52.07%
L Prog 1 Cash 62 Peak 63 WinRatio 51.64%
L Prog 2 Cash 60 Peak 63 WinRatio 51.22%
L Prog 4 Cash 56 Peak 63 WinRatio 50.81%
L Prog 8 Cash 48 Peak 63 WinRatio 50.4%
W Prog 16 Cash 64 Peak 63 WinRatio 50.79%
W Prog 1 Cash 65 Peak 64 WinRatio 51.18%
L Prog 1 Cash 64 Peak 65 WinRatio 50.78%
L Prog 2 Cash 62 Peak 65 WinRatio 50.39%
L Prog 4 Cash 58 Peak 65 WinRatio 50%
W Prog 8 Cash 66 Peak 65 WinRatio 50.38%
L Prog 1 Cash 65 Peak 66 WinRatio 50%
L Prog 2 Cash 63 Peak 66 WinRatio 49.62%
L Prog 4 Cash 59 Peak 66 WinRatio 49.25%
W Prog 8 Cash 67 Peak 66 WinRatio 49.63%
L Prog 1 Cash 66 Peak 67 WinRatio 49.26%
L Prog 2 Cash 64 Peak 67 WinRatio 48.91%
W Prog 4 Cash 68 Peak 67 WinRatio 49.28%
W Prog 1 Cash 69 Peak 68 WinRatio 49.64%
W Prog 1 Cash 70 Peak 69 WinRatio 50%
L Prog 1 Cash 69 Peak 70 WinRatio 49.65%
L Prog 2 Cash 67 Peak 70 WinRatio 49.3%
W Prog 4 Cash 71 Peak 70 WinRatio 49.65%
W Prog 1 Cash 72 Peak 71 WinRatio 50%
W Prog 1 Cash 73 Peak 72 WinRatio 50.34%
L Prog 1 Cash 72 Peak 73 WinRatio 50%
W Prog 2 Cash 74 Peak 73 WinRatio 50.34%
W Prog 1 Cash 75 Peak 74 WinRatio 50.68%
W Prog 1 Cash 76 Peak 75 WinRatio 51.01%
W Prog 1 Cash 77 Peak 76 WinRatio 51.33%
W Prog 1 Cash 78 Peak 77 WinRatio 51.66%
W Prog 1 Cash 79 Peak 78 WinRatio 51.97%
L Prog 1 Cash 78 Peak 79 WinRatio 51.63%
W Prog 2 Cash 80 Peak 79 WinRatio 51.95%
L Prog 1 Cash 79 Peak 80 WinRatio 51.61%
W Prog 2 Cash 81 Peak 80 WinRatio 51.92%
W Prog 1 Cash 82 Peak 81 WinRatio 52.23%
L Prog 1 Cash 81 Peak 82 WinRatio 51.9%
W Prog 2 Cash 83 Peak 82 WinRatio 52.2%
W Prog 1 Cash 84 Peak 83 WinRatio 52.5%
W Prog 1 Cash 85 Peak 84 WinRatio 52.8%
W Prog 1 Cash 86 Peak 85 WinRatio 53.09%
W Prog 1 Cash 87 Peak 86 WinRatio 53.37%
L Prog 1 Cash 86 Peak 87 WinRatio 53.05%
W Prog 2 Cash 88 Peak 87 WinRatio 53.33%
L Prog 1 Cash 87 Peak 88 WinRatio 53.01%
W Prog 2 Cash 89 Peak 88 WinRatio 53.29%
L Prog 1 Cash 88 Peak 89 WinRatio 52.98%
W Prog 2 Cash 90 Peak 89 WinRatio 53.25%
W Prog 1 Cash 91 Peak 90 WinRatio 53.53%
W Prog 1 Cash 92 Peak 91 WinRatio 53.8%
L Prog 1 Cash 91 Peak 92 WinRatio 53.49%
W Prog 2 Cash 93 Peak 92 WinRatio 53.76%
W Prog 1 Cash 94 Peak 93 WinRatio 54.02%
W Prog 1 Cash 95 Peak 94 WinRatio 54.29%
W Prog 1 Cash 96 Peak 95 WinRatio 54.55%
W Prog 1 Cash 97 Peak 96 WinRatio 54.8%
W Prog 1 Cash 98 Peak 97 WinRatio 55.06%
L Prog 1 Cash 97 Peak 98 WinRatio 54.75%
L Prog 2 Cash 95 Peak 98 WinRatio 54.44%
L Prog 4 Cash 91 Peak 98 WinRatio 54.14%
W Prog 8 Cash 99 Peak 98 WinRatio 54.4%
L Prog 1 Cash 98 Peak 99 WinRatio 54.1%
L Prog 2 Cash 96 Peak 99 WinRatio 53.8%
L Prog 4 Cash 92 Peak 99 WinRatio 53.51%
W Prog 8 Cash 100 Peak 99 WinRatio 53.76%
W Prog 1 Cash 101 Peak 100 WinRatio 54.01%
L Prog 1 Cash 100 Peak 101 WinRatio 53.72%
L Prog 2 Cash 98 Peak 101 WinRatio 53.44%
L Prog 4 Cash 94 Peak 101 WinRatio 53.16%
L Prog 8 Cash 86 Peak 101 WinRatio 52.88%
W Prog 16 Cash 102 Peak 101 WinRatio 53.13%
L Prog 1 Cash 101 Peak 102 WinRatio 52.85%
W Prog 2 Cash 103 Peak 102 WinRatio 53.09%
L Prog 1 Cash 102 Peak 103 WinRatio 52.82%
L Prog 2 Cash 100 Peak 103 WinRatio 52.55%
W Prog 4 Cash 104 Peak 103 WinRatio 52.79%
L Prog 1 Cash 103 Peak 104 WinRatio 52.53%
L Prog 2 Cash 101 Peak 104 WinRatio 52.26%
W Prog 4 Cash 105 Peak 104 WinRatio 52.5%[/reveal]
Highest progression reached was 16 units, test done using standard martingale x2 on a loss. I seemed to keep the win/loss ratio above 50% which is good, test done on playtech european wheel RNG @ casino.com
Maybe D Alembert on this?
Quote from: ScoobyDoo on May 02, 04:49 AM 2011
Hi Guys,
Well, I just racked up another $130....keep in mind I am using $5.00 units
Two sessions= $260.00
This is amazing! I never went beyond the 4th level of the progression. After you play it for a while, you don't need any cheat sheets. You can remember 1 goes with low, 2 goes with even, 3 goes with red, 4 goes with black, 5 goes with odd and 6 goes with high.
Scooby Doo
5 goes with even
Done another test session with live wheel numbers. 81 spin
Played with 2 four leved marti progression 1-2-4-8 /2-4-8-16
After reaching 2nd level played unitl loss (15 units) from 1st level recovered
In 81 spin had to go 2 time on 2nd level. But recovered with no problems both time.
Total profit 28 units.
Hope you did not buy this system for money.
There is no natural fact or magic behind this system.
The only thing you have to know is that your chances are 8,95% to lose your 4 step progression.
This means that the system can produce long winning streaks, but played over hundreds of spins you will also experience losing streaks that will eat the 1-2-4-8 progression and the casino will win at the end.
Your only chance is a 1-3-7-15 progression.
I would not recommend recover progression after a loss. That system tends to bring losing streaks.
Better double or tripple the progression in winning streaks. After a loss, back to 1.
Quote from: Rolletti on May 02, 11:14 AM 2011
Hope you did not buy this system for money.
There is no natural fact or magic behind this system.
The only thing you have to know is that your chances are 8,95% to lose your 4 step progression.
This means that the system can produce long winning streaks, but played over hundreds of spins you will also experience losing streaks that will eat the 1-2-4-8 progression and the casino will win at the end.
Your only chance is a 1-3-7-15 progression.
I would not recommend recover progression after a loss. That system tends to bring losing streaks.
Better double or tripple the progression in winning streaks. After a loss, back to 1.
did you test this fact?
Yes i know all this facts. Just reporting tests from live numbers. I personaly wouldnt buy any system. In my first test session i had 7 losing strikes in a row, now i had 5. I know very well what are you saying. Dont worry :)
I'm not worry about u my friend, was sure u know that.
My post was addressed to Red Nickels.
8)
Worrier, I did about 3000 live wheel spin in real money mode.
0,8 units win per spin is average.
Quote from: Rolletti on May 02, 11:52 AM 2011
I'm not worry about you my friend, was sure you know that.
My post was addressed to Red Nickels.
8)
no I didn't buy it, came across it at the page
gambling-systems.com/roulette_system.html which has a rather long and somewhat odd and difficult to follow ramblings by someone or other (think it must be a translation.)
thank you for explaining it GLC, still have to mull it over but from my brief cursory understanding of it it looks like it does not have much rationale but it seemed a little different from the hundreds of other systems so was curious about it. will test it on my real spins, just for the heck of it.
Quotewill test it on my real spins, just for the heck of it.
Good idea, do report your findings to the thread, I have continued testing as the win/loss ratio remains higher than 50%, we know our EC chance for winning offers on average 48.65% over millions of spins, anything above this is our target, long term.
I am testing the bot with different progression/recovery methods, martingale failed @ 256 units being my cut off point.
Hello,
the "Manila System" will be sold since a couple of years from a German system dealer. The price is EURO 29,70.
hxxp: das-roulette-system. de/die_geheimen_profit_akten_two. html
The seller is a known scam.
Defense
anybody having any luck with this one?
is there really a correlation between even chances and double streets?
Quote from: ewarwoowar on May 03, 04:09 PM 2011
Anybody having any luck with this one?
is there really a correlation between even chances and double streets?
there is none.
ofcourse it is ridiculous to choose your next even chance bet based upon which number in which line came in. sorry I posted this silly system which I am not going to bother testing. I couldn't really understand it when I read it because of some of the language and terms used so I was curious about it, but thanks again to those who explained it.
don't apologise for posting up a system!
it may not be the one we're all looking for, but people may take aspects of it away and use in conjunction with other methods.
it just may be the missing piece of the jigsaw for someone. sadly, not me!
cheers.
Quote from: Red Nickels on May 03, 05:16 PM 2011
Ofcourse it is ridiculous to choose your next even chance bet based upon which number in which line came in. sorry I posted this silly system which I am not going to bother testing. I couldn't really understand it when I read it because of some of the language and terms used so I was curious about it, but thanks again to those who explained it.
Guys, I was just looking back over Superman's test results and I noticed that he never had a losing streak of more than 4. Now I know there have to be losing steaks of more than 4 because if there isn't, then we have here the Grail. A 5 step grand martingale would rack up units by the bucketfull.
I know that 200 spins is nothing in the scheme of things, but here's a thought. What if the mehtod we're using to select the next even chance bet is so random that it almost guarantees against long losing streaks.
That's what some of the old systems like "The Author's" system is looking for. A set bet method that catches a win within every 4 bets.
Even if this bet isn't perfect, maybe it's good enough. The author may have just stopped a little short on his progression length.
I just tested another 200 spins and didn't come up with a 5 in a row loss either. If we can get more than 31 wins for every 5-in-a-row loss, we can win with a straight 1-2-4-8-16 marty. Or better yet a 1-3-7-15-31.
I'm not quite ready to throw in the towel. I'll be shocked, but I've got to look a little further just to be sure.
GLC
Quote from: Red Nickels on May 03, 05:16 PM 2011
Ofcourse it is ridiculous to choose your next even chance bet based upon which number in which line came in. sorry I posted this silly system which I am not going to bother testing. I couldn't really understand it when I read it because of some of the language and terms used so I was curious about it, but thanks again to those who explained it.
Here's another thought Red for any who don't like the original method which is straightforward to understand. While testing it, I got tired of switching with almost every spin and I had the idea of letting the number spun choose the next even chance that we are going to bet on, but we're going to bet on that same even chance for the next 5 bets (you could choose a 6 or 7 step marty instead. Choose your own medicine).
You'r betting that the wheel won't pick, at random, the next even chance that's going to sleep for 5, 6 or 7 spins. It will sometimes, so be ready to lose every now and then.
You can use either a 1-2-4-8-16 marty or a 1-3-7-15-31 marty.
If you want to try to recover after a loss, I would suggest going to 2-4-8-16-32 on the regular marty and only try to recover 16 of the lost points at the higher level and then drop back down to recover the rest of the lost units. Trying to recover all 31 at the higher level puts us at greater exposure to a loss of 63 units.
On the grand marty, I suggest the same idea of recovering 28 of the lost units at the 3-7-15-31-63 level.
This can and will lose, so don't expose yourelf too long at a time.
George
Sorry Red. If you think this is hijacking your system, just send it to the recycle bin. No hard feelingsw.
Quoteit just may be the missing piece of the jigsaw for someone
Spot on mate, thats the only reason I do so much testing, depends on the system posted obviousley, some just dont work straight off the bat, but some need further looking at.
Quotebut we're going to bet on that same even chance for the next 5 bets
I may run that George, will let you know if I do
you may want to test these, any way you want. but you may just end up with a method that has been inadvertently reversed engineered to work well on these spins. here are 75 continuous real spins from 6 different wheels which show no, b/r, o/e, h/l. they are from 00 wheels-- sorry, that's all I had access to at the time, here in the states.