I made a system and tested it in about 2.000 spins and showed great results !
The problem here is that we need a massive BR in order to be able to handle the bad fluxuations.
Open RX and go to the Options/Configure . Go to Calculate Grapgical Statistics and put there the number 14.
This means that the RX will be always calculating for you the last 14 Spins.
Open the STREETS Graph and the bankroll balance Trend .
The system :
Spin 14 times and let the RX tell you which Streets showed up.
Now BET all the UNHITTED streets.
Progression:
When we are in a new Profit we just BET all the UNHITTED streets with just 1 chip.
But when we are NOT in a new Profit we do this:
a)Every time a NEW UNHITTED Street comes up , we bet it (together with the others) and we add 1 more chip on all the Unhitted streets.(plus the new unhitted street that just showed up...so the new street must also have the SAME amount of chips as the other streets)
We do this for every new Unhitted streets is showing up. so If we have 1 more new street we add this street and we add 1 more cjip on all the unhitted streets.
b)When we have a WIN but we are NOT in a new higher profit, we take the winning street out and we add 1 more chip on all the unhitted streets.
that's it !
The probablility say that in 12 spins all the streets must show up...but of cource this isn t happening.
So I added 2 more spins(that s why we put the number 14) for the ZERO/S
My 2.000 spins test showed a profit of + 3.349
and the worst DOWN inside session was -714.(that was recovered of cource)
Ps. The bet selection is supposed to be a Gambling Fallacy(like all the bet selections)...But its also the best way to chose our bets because NEW bets are adding all the time without us having to chose randomly.So in my opinion is better to make bets based on probability factrors then to make random bets.
You will be amaized of how many times you will have to reset the progression because you are in a new Profit.
You can also apply this system on Straight numns or slpits etc. But you have to change the Calculate Grapgical Statistics with deferent number that fits into ur bet selection
Hi MM
Nice :)
We talk.
Jon
Thanx mate
cya
Hi thanks for sharing
198 spins, +325 units
question : if I have a win but I'm not in a new profit AND a new unhit street, Do I add 2 more chips on the unhit streets ? or just 1 ?
cheers
I am in full testing this to ;D
Jon
Quote from: MM on May 04, 07:12 PM 2011
You can also apply this system on Straight numns or slpits etc. But you have to change the Calculate Grapgical Statistics with different number that fits into your bet selection
What about dozs? To bet on unhit in last 5 spins?
Quote from: marivo on May 06, 05:52 AM 2011
What about dozs? To bet on unhit in last 5 spins?
I have tested similar systems on dozens, lines, streets, etc... They all win most of the time, but every now and then they either lose a lot or you have to be willing to invest a large bankroll.
Most of my tests, I started with 250 unit bank and encountered series bad enough to reach my stop loss. Then I went to 500. Same thing only took longer, but not that much longer because when you start losing and getting close to -250 you're betting a bundle each bet and it doesn't take but a few more bets to reach 500.
If you approached this with Winkel's philosophy of having a 3000-5000 stop loss, you might play the rest of your life and not bottom out. Or you might tank on your first session.
aleks06 question : if I have a win but I'm not in a new profit AND a new unhit street, Do I add 2 more chips on the unhit streets ? or just 1 ?
You must add ONLY 1 chip and NOT 2 . (I have tested both and the 1 is better)
GLC Yes unfortunately we can t have a stop-loss with a certain BR. Because If you will continue the play then its very easy to be in a new Profit.
This is why I said that we need a HUGE BR.
I think that IF we need a stop-loss it must be 1000 chips when we play on streets.
The Bad fluxuations is something that we are facing with any system.... the point is the system to have such a filosophy and stracture that it will be able to overcome those fluxuations without reaching the table limit...and I think that this system has it.
Can you plesase explain the bet to me in another way as i dont get it how to bet?
You know my englaise is bad :D
Your friend Jon ;D
You are looking always at the last 14 spins.
You start by betting the Unhit streets with 1 chip.
You always folow the last 14 spins and you are betting the unhit streets.....
That s it :)
The progression is mentioned in the 1st post.
with RX is very easy to spot the unhit streets and this is why I recomented it.....
Ok my friend Jon ? :D
Quote from: MM on May 06, 01:25 PM 2011
You are looking always at the last 14 spins.
You start by betting the Unhit streets with 1 chip.
You always follow the last 14 spins and you are betting the unhit streets.....
That s it :)
The progression is mentioned in the 1st post.
with RX is very easy to spot the unhit streets and this is why I recomented it.....
Ok my friend Jon ? :D
I get it :)
Jon :)
When we are in profit do we stopp and track new 14 spins?
Jon
yes, keep betting the unhitted streets with 1 chips
Yes when u are in a new Profit you must reset all unhit streets to 1 chip BUT you do NOT stop anything....You just continue betting the UNhit streets with just 1 chip on each.
Its a continious play system. After the 1st 14 spins you do NOT stop for any reason....exept if you are in a nice Profit and you want to go homme :D
I think you haven t understood that we are ADDING the new UNhit streets as we play !!!(with the progression ofcouce)
I really think you need to read again the 1st POST....its all there
You are always watching the last 14 spins as you play and you bet accordingly adding new streets,removing the winning ones and use a progression when its needed.
Quote from: MM on May 06, 02:11 PM 2011
Yes when u are in a new Profit you must reset all unhit streets to 1 chip BUT you do NOT stop anything....You just continue betting the UNhit streets with just 1 chip on each.
Its a continious play system. After the 1st 14 spins you do NOT stop for any reason....exept if you are in a nice Profit and you want to go homme :D
I think you haven t understood that we are ADDING the new UNhit streets as we play !!!(with the progression ofcouce)
I really think you need to read again the 1st POST....its all there
You are always watching the last 14 spins as you play and you bet accordingly adding new streets,removing the winning ones and use a progression when its needed.
I understand all now :)
Thanks again :)
Jon
;)
You see ppl there are some posted systems in here...some of us like some of them some we don t.
But the ones that like one system,they don t test it till death in order to see what is going on with it...
If it will fail , then we can lock the Topic and we move on with new systems......
This was the attitude that the old Vls had and I really missed it for this.....
Then all were clear.....someone were posting a system that were going well....then all the members were jumping in the Topic by posting their resaults!
Soon or later we knew what this system was capable of........
I am not speaking about my system in this Topic...I speak generally.
@MM
I have botted this system and run it against casino.com playtech european roulette.
I haven't tried your progression as I have my own that works with ANY bet method, it calculates the losses and determines how much is need to recover, not straight away, but gradually over 2 or 3 bets placed. So far 744 spins bank stands at 782, there have been some long losing streaks but I am playing in 1cent units so it doesn't really hurt.
I was going to post the results but can find the "hide/reveal" button?? see uploaded file
A typical line is like this
W Prog 4 Cash 782 Peak 793 Bet? 5
W =win L = Loss
Cash = Current bank
Peak = highest reached
Bet ? = how many streets we bet on that spin as there have been a few times when there were no eligable streets to bet on
Superman I really can NOT have any opinion IF the progression or the bet selection you use are deferent than my original system.
If your system is defferent then why don t you post a new Topic with it?
Understood, it was only my progression that was different.
I have now changed it to your progression and so far the results are quite good, your progression is much more aggressive so drawdown can be quick, after 300 spins bankroll is now +1062 units biggest bet placed is 22 units on 3 streets.
Will keep the bot running and let you know.
Whats the largest bet you have plced and on how many streets was it?
MM,
Thank you for this system. Since the concept can be applied to any bet, it opens a lot of new options for the game. :thumbsup:
Thank you superman for having you on board and thanx for testing my system with a bot.
The higher bet that I ever placed in my manual testings was 22 chips on 3-4 streets....
GLC thank you too for the nice words
When I 1st thought of this kind of play (method) I wanted to play it on the NATURAL LINES in order to need a smaller BR.
But RX doesn t have a graph of NATURAL Lines.
Quote from: MM on May 07, 11:35 AM 2011
When I 1st thought of this kind of play (method) I wanted to play it on the NATURAL LINES in order to need a smaller BR.
But RX doesn t have a graph of NATURAL Lines.
U tried it on the "Un-Natural" Lines, or what I call 'Half-Lines' ?
Quote from: superman on May 07, 08:54 AM 2011
@MM
I.....
I was going to post the results but can find the "hide/reveal" button?? see uploaded file
The type code is (square brackets instead of these curved one's mate)=
(reveal) then Ur stuff(/reveal)
[reveal]Stuff![/reveal]
No chris I didn t try on the UNnatural Lines because you can t do it....Its not good
2 bets of some same numbers are interfear and this NOT good......The point is to bet with less chips a bigger part of the table.
Hi.
Ok here we go. This system ALL sould read this.
If i could post my test results i would do so after my 7000 spins test.
Test It yourself if you dont belive in it.
It came out a winner and not just a winner but a GOOOOOOOD winner and GOOOOOOD profit.
Cheers
Jon
Hehehe... I am happy for you Jon. ;)
What was the biggest down?
Lets hope that superman will test it in 100.000 more spins to have a more relyable conclusion.
Quote from: MM on May 09, 08:28 PM 2011
Hehehe... I am happy for you Jon. ;)
What was the biggest down?
Lets hope that superman will test it in 100.000 more spins to have a more relyable conclusion.
Biggest drawdown was 1084.
I will keep testing.
Jon
Seems like I am the only one that lost with this system. I tested it some days ago and I played it the correct way according to your rules, well maybe I'm just unlucky.
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QuoteSeems like I am the only one that lost with this system
Nah you are not alone, the drawdowns are far too big making the risk bigger to recover
well if you don t have any ideas for making the method better , then we can abandon the Topic and move on to next ideas. :)
thanks for your support.
hi MM
THIS SYSTEM is as old as our civilization itself. Hermes once brought this idea and tested by albartozonas fiercely and was proved impractical. ;D
thanks for digging the past.
catalyst
Quote from: catalyst on May 10, 12:44 PM 2011
Hi MM
THIS SYSTEM is as old as our civilization itself. Hermes once brought this idea and tested by albartozonas fiercely and was proved impractical. ;D
thanks for digging the past.
catalyst
that is true i tested it extensively
i guess there are plenty of less risky systems around here
howewer i think that money management here suggested is very good
i wish anyone can figure how it would work applied to
System based on Law of the third-need comments
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