What I call a 'Rooster Booster' is the idea of winning then betting all your winnings on the next spin to win BIG and really annoy the pit boss. . . .
If you bet 1 chip on one single number then you win 35 chips.
If you then bet this 35 chips on another number then you win 35 x 35 = 1,225 chips.
Now I just know you can smell the leather of that brand new Ferrari in your drive can't you. . . :P
So your Rooster bet is one single bet that you play constantly or as and when you see the opportunity for a boost (ie the bet roosts)
And your Booster bet is simply the big bet (ie the bet boosts). .
Impossible to find one number that comes after another?
Look again folks. . . . they do exist. . . and to prove my point here are a few 'close' examples. Look how often 23 and 32 come up one after the other. . . and 12 and 21 and 13 and 31. . . and there are many more. .
Wow. . . . thats a win of 612 from 2 chips played. So when would you play the 23 and 32 for example as rooster bets? Perhaps when a pathfinder lights the opportunity for you. One simple idea of the top of my head might be to play them for a while after one of those 2 lines appears. . .
How do I play?
:-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
Good luck and I hope some of you crack a good idea using the basis of what i am writing here and win BIG. . .
Rip
QuoteLook again folks. . . . they do exist. . . and to prove my point here are a few 'close' examples. Look how often 23 and 32 come up one after the other. . . and 12 and 21 and 13 and 31. . . and there are many more. .
Some rumors never die.
The chance that any numbers appears after any other number is 1/37.
So after 23 all 37 possible numbers appear at the same rate.
And this bet-selection is as old as roulette and proved winning until you bet it.
br
winkel
Yes the point being they do appear. . . . .
Go to any casino online results page and simply look. Then comment. . . . . .
Quote from: ripple on May 14, 03:04 PM 2011
Yes the point being they do appear. . . . .
Go to any casino online results page and simply look. Then comment. . . . . .
Mr. ripple I have done just that and I'm sure many others have too and I don't see those numbers hit more after any another. They all goes by 1/37 chance.
Cheers
No you are looking at it completely the wrong way by using maths to defeat roulette. . .
First question when has maths ever beaten roulette??
Never. . . .
Second question does 12 come after 21 and 23 come after 32 ever?
Many times. . . . . . , just look. . .
Sooooooooo. . . . . . .
If you know when to bet the numbers then you stand an excellent chance of winning. . .
However if you do wish to use maths to beat roulette then pleas carry on as you never will. . . My post however is rather aimed that those with a sharper approach to winning. . . . .
Note the date of this link. . .
hxxp: :. spielbank-wiesbaden. de/index. php?id=83&view=day
1st column > 15th spin down. . . .
2nd column > 14th spin down
Err. . . . . . . . . maths anyone?????
Oooooh and I forgot to mention something. . .
It all works WONDERFULLY well online too. . . .
Now this is a system. . . . .
Come on boy, just think a bit:
If 12 would follow 21 (or any other numbers-onfiguration) more often than it should by math, we wouldn´t have a true random, would we?
And if you do a proof with Wiesbaden-spins pls do it correctly:
how often did your selected humber appear?
how often did the relating number appear back to back
did any other number appear after your selected number as often or more often than your related number?
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winkel
Read my first thread properly. . . .
If you do you will see that you need to have a 'pathfinder' to play this system. This is an indication of when to place the bets. I did not give you the pathfinder.
Also you obviously think I told you all the numbers I play then you are even more of a fool. Oh there you go that's the reason no one will ever give entire winning systems away here. . . . because of idiotic comments that help no one.
Oh and yes, about the weisbaden results.
The example I gave was 13th of May 2011. Wheel Two.
That's oh wow. YESTERDAY. . .
So if the link does not work go to:
:. spielbank-wiesbaden. de
Click on permanenzen.
And look. . using the same clues I gave in my earlier thread - just to obviously prove it is the same link.
Now just to prove my point even further:
Here is a random date in 2005.
Yes that was 6 years ago. . . . .
20th October 2005.
Random wheel 3.
Err column 4, 6th spin down.
Now correct me if I am wrong but that is the same thing happening as in the other example which happened yesterday. . . .
So whose the fool now???
This is all proveable. Your concept of using maths to beat this system is hilariously stupid. Of course any number can follow the number that just appears. OF COURSE!!! But if you know which numbers will follow which numbers and when then of course this system works. . .
I feel like I am einstein talking to a peanut Mr Winkel. . . .
Ripple is right always look for back to back numbers as good bets. Once a back to back number hits bet all other back to backs. A back to back is 21 12. 31 13. 32 23
It can at times win big. Like if i see number 12 hit then i will bet 12, 21 13 31 23 32. Bet for six spins.
Exactly Kingspin - if you want my email address ask admin to contact me by email.
I shouldn´t answer to your post, because it is .....
Just notice this:
In a german forum we collected peoples famlilar numbers, that means if anyone said after that .. I play this...
The test was on Wiesbaden, Hamburg, Duisburg, CasinoClub and several other spins available on the net.
We tested any circumstandes:
e.g.
- does hit - repeat
- didn´t hit for x times
- is the connection favorite or sleeper
and several others
There is no way to detected when to bet or not to bet any of this idea´s conections.
QuoteSo whose the fool now???
I feel like I am einstein talking to a peanut Mr Winkel. . . .
I don´t comment this, ask other members whom you are talking to.
Ripple sir,
I would like to just inform you that idea you have brought
on these pages have been tested on several hundred th.
of real actual spins few years back on old VLS forum and
it didn't pass the test positively,No need arguing and abase
our most respectfull member of our forum with your vain
comments.
Impossible. They do not know the pathfinders... They also do not know all the numbers. They just did a flat bet test I guess on millions of spins that one number will follow the other. Again trying to beat the maths. Its impossible so the test I guess was fruitless because of course it won't work.
But I have proved that these numbers do appear consecutively as previously mentioned. All I ask is that you do your own tests before commenting because I proved what i said.
And heres another bit of evidence.
From a database on the VLS site.
Argosy Casino in Lawrenceburg, Indiana September 11, 2005
1 29 22 30 20 0 8 28 2 7 22 16 9 34 3 23 14 21 0 7 22 16 9 34 3 23 14 21 21 27
32 12 13 6 20 20 1 4 31 0 25 31 34 11 33 11 30 16 3 2 18 32 23
(Total 53 spins, 3 Zero, 0 Double-Zero, 18 Black, 32 Red)
Please note the last 2 spins.
Thus if you know when to play these numbers ie the pathfinder, obviously you win.
A lot.
But no i am not going to put the pathfinders up here....... find your own :)
Roulette=Random!
Cheers
Jon
Quote from: ripple on May 14, 05:59 PM 2011
Impossible...
But I have proved that these numbers do appear consecutively as previously mentioned. All I ask is that you do your own tests before commenting because I proved what I said.
Well. You are wrong.
and here is proof:
link:://rouletteforum.cc/actuals-spins/biasedincorect-spin-data/ (link:://rouletteforum.cc/actuals-spins/biasedincorect-spin-data/)
MODERATOR'S WARNING
Cool down, Ripple.
Your gratuitious insult to a respected member of this forum:
"I feel like I am einstein talking to a peanut Mr Winkel. . . . "
was totally out of order and unacceptable behaviour.
Be warned: insult a member like that ever again and You. Are. Out. No discussion.
Meanwhile, an apology to Winkel will do much to redeem yourself. A test of character for you...
Quote from: ripple on May 14, 05:59 PM 2011
1 29 22 30 20 0 8 28 2 7 22 16 9 34 3 23 14 21 0 7 22 16 9 34 3 23 14 21 21 27
32 12 13 6 20 20 1 4 31 0 25 31 34 11 33 11 30 16 3 2 18 32 23
From your numbers. I see the same thing with 0 10 20 30 all the time like magic, but don't know if they appear within say 9 spins of each other consistantly enough to make a profit out of.
I suggest you post your full system INCLUDING the pathfinder.
This would bring a more scientific discussion into the topic and we could do some tests.
Right now we are not talking about the same think, since u keep your system secret.
And by the way, what is your motivation to open a thread saying: I have a winning system, but I will not tell you??
I suggest share it or keep it for u, all of it.
cheers
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on May 14, 05:38 PM 2011
Ripple sir,
I would like to just inform you that idea you have brought
on these pages have been tested on several hundred the.
of real actual spins few years back on old VLS forum and
it didn't pass the test positively,No need arguing and abase
our most respectfull member of our forum with your vain
comments.
I also remember this from old VLS,if Ripple is winning with this good for him,why should he kick it.But to me,its just randomness..i have spins where 23 32,13 31,12 21 hits back to back.
I also notice 22 25,4 7,26 29 clusters back to back..due to us a tendency to locate patterns.
Yesterday i cash in for playing 21,after 19,20 hit..i was seeing a pattern and counting likewise for 12 14 16 hitting.But if you winning with this,hold on to it.
cheers
Well, after first reading this approach seemed to be just like another system based on "wishfull thinking" only. I totally agreed with winkel anf F_LAT_INO.
then I took a second look at my usual testing sessions and now I admit, still very carefully though, there might be more to this than meets the eye. :o
cheers
hans
p.s. and please guys, keep the discussion friendly and constructive. :)
what is the point of starting this thread if you are not prepared to share the pathfinder with everyone, that is the purpose of this brilliant forum SHARING.
Quote from: ripple on May 14, 05:59 PM 2011
Impossible. They do not know the pathfinders... They also do not know all the numbers. They just did a flat bet test I guess on millions of spins that one number will follow the other. Again trying to beat the maths. Its impossible so the test I guess was fruitless because of course it won't work.
But I have proved that these numbers do appear consecutively as previously mentioned. All I ask is that you do your own tests before commenting because I proved what I said.
And heres another bit of evidence.
From a database on the VLS site.
Argosy Casino in Lawrenceburg, Indiana September 11, 2005
1 29 22 30 20 0 8 28 2 7 22 16 9 34 3 23 14 21 0 7 22 16 9 34 3 23 14 21 21 27
32 12 13 6 20 20 1 4 31 0 25 31 34 11 33 11 30 16 3 2 18 32 23
(Total 53 spins, 3 Zero, 0 Double-Zero, 18 Black, 32 Red)
Please note the last 2 spins.
Thus if you know when to play these numbers ie the pathfinder, obviously you win.
A lot.
But no I am not going to put the pathfinders up here....... find your own :)
Is this the path link:://:.fouroulette.com/roulette_system_predict.htm (link:://:.fouroulette.com/roulette_system_predict.htm) ?
or maybe this
“The stages of the Noble Path are: Right View, Right Thought, Right Speech, Right Behavior, Right Livelihood, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness and Right Concentration.â€
Buddha quotes (Hindu Prince Gautama Siddharta, the founder of Buddhism, 563-483 B.C.) ?
So what if 23 is followed by 32?
Just above, 21 is followed by 21.
All we have are random clusters...nothing new in that.
Random clusters are the molehills on the random playing field.
Perhaps if you reveal the so-called pathfinders instead of teasing (a NO-NO on this forum, by the way) then we can have a debate based on some facts rather than ephemeral musings.
@7
thanks a lot for posting the link. :)
my first testing went like this:
I only took the numbers given in small letters just for the next spin (last spin = zero, I then bet only 10; 20; 30).
I used 2728 Spielbank Hamburg live spins.
the first 1000 spins gave 50 winners. the next 1000 spins gave 45 and the last 728 spins 35 winners.
total: 2728 spins resulted in 130 winners.
this testing was only about winners vs. losers.
cheers
hans
@Hans
I just did a good test by eye with Toms rng actuals file #922 the first one (must be bet voyager rng roulette) as there is no zeros as this was the only rng actuals in there. Tested the single numbers 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9.
Example: An appearance of 2 then check for an appearance of a 2 or a 5 within 15 spins. And/Or an appearance of 5 then check for an appearance of a 5 or a 2 within 15 spinners.
Almost always did the two numbers follow each other in that range of spins.
Can you, FLAT INO or someone explain this who knows about math.
link:://rouletteforum.cc/actuals-spins/spins-from-tom/ (link:://rouletteforum.cc/actuals-spins/spins-from-tom/)
(link:://:.fouroulette.com/roulettewheel.jpg)
Quote from: 7 on May 17, 01:12 PM 2011
@Hans
I just did a good test by eye with Toms rng actuals file #922 the first one (must be bet voyager rng roulette) as there is no zeros as this was the only rng actuals in there. Tested the single numbers 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9.
Example: An appearance of 2 then check for an appearance of a 2 or a 5 within 15 spins. And/Or an appearance of 5 then check for an appearance of a 5 or a 2 within 15 spinners.
Almost always did the two numbers follow each other in that range of spins.
Can you, FLAT INO or someone explain this who knows about math.
link:://rouletteforum.cc/actuals-spins/spins-from-tom/ (link:://rouletteforum.cc/actuals-spins/spins-from-tom/)
(link:://:.fouroulette.com/roulettewheel.jpg)
------Why me mate......I always declare myself as a bad math......ideas I grasp cause of my long experience and cause it is challenge which keeps me going btw.
I'm afraid my math knowledge is far too small to give a serious explanation. maybe bayes could if he's still around? :)
on the other hand at the begining of this threat ripple statet that this approach can't be explained with math at all. still, if this should really work, then there must be a reason why it does ...
Quote from: hanshuckebein on May 17, 01:48 PM 2011
I'm afraid my math knowledge is far too small to give a serious explanation. maybe bayes could if he's still around? :)
on the other hand at the begining of this threat ripple statet that this approach can't be explained with math at all. still, if this should really work, then there must be a reason why it does ...
But then again,one should know such a reason.
It is easy:
everybody knows that the point of most repeat is spin #7 or #8.
So you can easily bet any number to repeat in 8 (or any other number of spins, e.g. 15 like here)
and you will find enormous long streaks of winnings until your caught by the sigma
Everybody who watched DS or length of distances knows that any additional number which is bet will hit in a while (or not)
br
winkel
thanks winkel :)
although I'm not too sure wether out of 6 billion people really "everybody" knows that until spin 7 or 8 appear most of the repeats. (just kidding :D)
thanks again :)
Quote from: winkel on May 17, 02:19 PM 2011
It is easy:
everybody knows that the point of most repeat is spin #7 or #8.
So you can easily bet any number to repeat in 8 (or any other number of spins, e.g. 15 like here)
and you will find enormous long streaks of winnings until your caught by the sigma
Everybody who watched DS or length of distances knows that any additional number which is bet will hit in a while (or not)
br
winkel
thanks winkel. I will read up on Sigma. Though for my experiance playing live roulette some of the dealer girls do create a lot of repeats but the streak doesn't have time to continue as they change dealers too often, probably for that exact reason.
1 22 36 35 29 6 33 32 33 2 33 9 30 21 25 0 4 1 20 16 9 31 31 7 35 30 13 7 22 23 27
29 8 24 1 2 25 34 21 1 8 21 12 24 12 30 24 33 30 28 26 9 2 32 22 11 14 19 25
From nextyears #'s in GUT topic, :question:
Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 15, 02:22 PM 2016
1 22 36 35 29 6 33 32 33 2 33 9 30 21 25 0 4 1 20 16 9 31 31 7 35 30 13 7 22 23 27
29 8 24 1 2 25 34 21 1 8 21 12 24 12 30 24 33 30 28 26 9 2 32 22 11 14 19 25
From nextyears #'s in GUT topic, :question:
Wow it happened once in 1000 spins. Wow. Unbelieavable
I am at a loss of words here. Wow. Incredible. Holy grail, we found you, man !