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Title: feedback for testyourstrategy.com
Post by: Bayes on Jun 01, 11:35 AM 2011
Any feedback on the site (see the sticky) please post here. I'm also going to get in touch with the proprietor, hopefully he'll create an account at the forum.
Title: Re: feedback for testyourstrategy.com
Post by: Maui13 on Jun 01, 01:22 PM 2011
The guy who thought of this is REALLY smart!!!

You post your method, GREAT, but the source code sits on the site. He then makes his picks of the coolest systems to play them! BRILLIANT!!!   :wink:

Regards,
Mauricio
Title: Re: feedback for testyourstrategy.com
Post by: Bayes on Jun 01, 01:39 PM 2011
Well, I suppose that's one way of looking at it, albeit a very cynical one.  :yawn:

If you don't like the thought of your system being 'stolen', then don't use the site.
Title: Re: feedback for testyourstrategy.com
Post by: Maui13 on Jun 01, 01:47 PM 2011
Hehe, Bayes, I think I came across in the wrong manner.

I don't mean it like that at all. I had a look at the site, it is actually very cool. I'm just saying that a nice "payoff" for the site owner is that he can pick the ones he likes.

In all honesty, I would make use of it IF there were more variants/options available.
I couldn't code to save my life, and the scary part is I'm a Sys Admin!!!!   :twisted:

Regards,
Mauricio
Title: Re: feedback for testyourstrategy.com
Post by: Bayes on Jun 01, 01:59 PM 2011
Quote from: Maui13 on Jun 01, 01:47 PM 2011
Hehe, Bayes, I think I came across in the wrong manner.

Ok, no worries.  :thumbsup:

More options is probably going to be a frequent request (I for one would like to have the ability to bet after a win rather than a loss), so the owner may add some more in time. But I like the way you can move from one system to the next.

And let's be honest, there are millions of possible systems but they're all variations on a few basic themes.
Title: Re: feedback for testyourstrategy.com
Post by: eccl1019 on Jun 01, 06:03 PM 2011
Hello, I am the owner of the site.   I'm glad you are enjoying it.

I have been working on a new option for the last few weeks.   I hope to have it finished and available tomorrow, if all goes well.  Certainly within the next few days.

I'll update you when it's up!

Admin - TestMyStrategy
Eccl1019
Title: Re: feedback for testyourstrategy.com
Post by: esoito on Jun 01, 07:43 PM 2011
Quote from: eccl1019 on Jun 01, 06:03 PM 2011
Hello, I am the owner of the site.   I'm glad you are enjoying it.

I have been working on a new option for the last few weeks.   I hope to have it finished and available tomorrow, if all goes well.  Certainly within the next few days.

I'll update you when it's up!

Admin - TestMyStrategy
Eccl1019

Welcome to our forum!  :thumbsup:

When Bayes and I discussed your site before posting details I visited it, of course.

I was VERY impressed. You've worked so hard to come up with a very user-friendly site that will be extremely useful.

Well done!!

Title: Re: feedback for testyourstrategy.com
Post by: Maui13 on Jun 02, 02:29 AM 2011
Welcome - and please do keep us posted on changes etc. happening there!!!  :thumbsup:

Regards,
Mauricio
Title: Re: feedback for testyourstrategy.com
Post by: Bayes on Jun 02, 02:34 AM 2011
Welcome to the forum eccl1019!

Good to hear you're adding a new option. Actually, what you have isn't as limiting as it might first appear, because of the ability to add new strategies; if you break down a single strategy into 'composite' strategies you can often get want you want by 'stacking' them, as it were.

The problem is that if you have too many options you then have to think carefully about the logic, in which case you might as well learn a programming language and have total flexibility, and the point of your scheme is to make it easier to create systems without having to go through that learning curve.
Title: Re: feedback for testyourstrategy.com
Post by: eccl1019 on Jun 02, 08:47 AM 2011
Bayes, yes, you are correct.      I did my best to come up with a system that would be user friendly, yet still cover a lot of possible strategies.      I think it's impossible to create something really simple, that could cover any conceivable strategy out there, but I hope what I've done will bring lots of enjoyment for many.   

Plus, you can create a free account and save the strategies you're working on, so you only have to rack your brain once, then you can come back later and tweak it, without having to re-enter everything from scratch. 

I am constantly working on it, and expanding its' possibilities.   I will post again soon with some changes. 
Title: Re: feedback for testyourstrategy.com
Post by: Maui13 on Jun 02, 09:11 AM 2011
@ eccl1019

Perhaps even something to consider is once your strategy has been created, to even make it playable, like a bot ???

Regards,
Mauricio
Title: Re: feedback for testyourstrategy.com
Post by: eccl1019 on Jun 02, 10:53 AM 2011
Quote from: Maui13 link=topic=5696. msg54806#msg54806 date=1307020292
@ eccl1019

Perhaps even something to consider is once your strategy has been created, to even make it playable, like a bot ???

Regards,
Mauricio

Already done.   For $5/month, Premium Members have the option to follow their strategies on a live board.
Title: Re: feedback for testyourstrategy.com
Post by: eccl1019 on Jun 03, 04:40 PM 2011
A new strategy option is up!  Check it out here:
link:://:.testmystrategy.com/roulette/european.php (link:://:.testmystrategy.com/roulette/european.php)    

Now you can test strategies according to the law of probability!!!

Some of you have requested particular options, which I am in the process of adding.    More updates to come next week.    

Enjoy!

;D
Title: Re: feedback for testyourstrategy.com
Post by: Bayes on Jun 04, 04:37 AM 2011
Nice work eccl1019, thanks for the update.  :)

Minor nit-pick: the odds never actually change, but I know what you mean.
Title: Re: feedback for testyourstrategy.com
Post by: eccl1019 on Jun 04, 10:38 AM 2011
Quote from: Bayes link=topic=5696. msg55319#msg55319 date=1307176669
Minor nit-pick: the odds never actually change, but I know what you mean.

Bayes, I understand what you're saying, but the odds of winning do change, along with the payout.   With higher odds of winning, comes lower payout, and vice versa.

It's the house edge, and the odds of ending in profit, that never changes,. . .  unless of-course, you find the holy grail.   :o

All this is laid out clearly on my site here: hxxp: :. testmystrategy. com/rules/european. php

I am open to correction if I am saying it wrong though.   This seems to be a never-ending learning process for me so far.   I am enjoying the communication with everyone here.   :)
Title: Re: feedback for testyourstrategy.com
Post by: Bayes on Jun 04, 11:35 AM 2011
Quote from: eccl1019 on Jun 04, 10:38 AM 2011
Bayes, I understand what you're saying, but the odds of winning do change, along with the payout.   With higher odds of winning, comes lower payout, and vice versa.

Maybe I misunderstood; how is the software working out when the odds change? correct me if I'm wrong, but I assumed it was something like taking the average number of wins (as per probability) in a given number of spins, and then when they fall below this average that counts a change in odds. (or if the wins are above average, the odds are moved upwards)

For example, suppose I select the first dozen and also "count the odds since the last 30 spins". Since on average a dozen should win 10 times in 30 spins, if in the last 30 spins dozen 1 has only won 5 times, does the software move the odds downwards?

There is more than one way of interpreting counting the odds, not saying any one way is right or wrong, I just want to be clear how you are seeing it and what the software does.  :)
Title: Re: feedback for testyourstrategy.com
Post by: eccl1019 on Jun 04, 11:59 AM 2011
Quote from: Bayes link=topic=5696. msg55400#msg55400 date=1307201709
I assumed it was something like taking the average number of wins (as per probability) in a given number of spins, and then when they fall below this average that counts a change in odds.  (or if the wins are above average, the odds are moved upwards)

In this aspect, you were correct at first.   The odds do not change.   When you select a place to bet on, it will display the odds of winning for that option.   For a Single 2. 7%, for two Singles 5. 41%, for a Dozen 32. 43%, etc. . .

The software will then track whether you are above or below those odds, depending on how you set it.   You can set it to look back only a certain number of spins, or check from the beginning of the game, etc. . .

Quote from: Bayes link=topic=5696. msg55400#msg55400 date=1307201709
For example, suppose I select the first dozen and also "count the odds since the last 30 spins".  Since on average a dozen should win 10 times in 30 spins, if in the last 30 spins dozen 1 has only won 5 times, does the software move the odds downwards?

If you only win 5 out of 30 spins, you would be BELOW the odds of winning.   Therefore, according to probability, you are due some wins.   That is when the INCREASE RULE can help you, by increasing your bet amount, until you meet the selected requirement.

To keep from getting stuck, there are stop-loss options built in, under the "When you reach max bet" option.

Title: Re: feedback for testyourstrategy.com
Post by: Bayes on Jun 04, 12:19 PM 2011
Ok, thanks, that's what I thought.

BUT, and I should emphasise that this doesn't affect the software or mean that it's in any way "wrong", the odds are fixed. Betting on a dozen which hasn't hit in 30 spins doesn't change the odds at all, any more than if it had hit EVERY spin in the last 30 - it's still 12/37. The odds are set in stone (assuming you don't have any bias) because each number is equally likely to hit and each number has every opportunity to hit, as it were. In other words, to use the often quoted phrase: "The wheel has no memory".

If you think this is suspect, try it for yourself. One of the great things about your software is that people can easily put their beliefs to the test. If the odds really do change and a number is "due", then you should expect to get more wins (or wins more quickly) betting a number or set of numbers which has been sleeping for a long time.

The fact is you don't, but don't take my word for it, suck it and see.
Title: Re: feedback for testyourstrategy.com
Post by: eccl1019 on Jun 04, 01:01 PM 2011
Quote from: Bayes link=topic=5696. msg55412#msg55412 date=1307204362
. . . "The wheel has no memory".

If you think this is suspect, try it for yourself.  One of the great things about your software is that people can easily put their beliefs to the test.  If the odds really do change and a number is "due", then you should expect to get more wins (or wins more quickly) betting a number or set of numbers which has been sleeping for a long time.

The fact is you don't, but don't take my word for it, suck it and see. 

Well said.
Title: Re: feedback for testyourstrategy.com
Post by: eccl1019 on Jun 09, 03:55 PM 2011
I had someone contact me requesting a way to test repeated numbers based on the 'law of the third'.

Request granted!

Choose where you want to place your bet on the board, select Any,. . .  and you will see the new options available.

More to come.   ;D
Title: Re: feedback for testyourstrategy.com
Post by: soroco on Jun 12, 05:49 PM 2011
love it,keep updating it might just compete with rx in time  ;)
Title: Re: feedback for testyourstrategy.com
Post by: WannaWin on Jun 14, 09:03 PM 2011
Well said.

Receive a lot of encouragement for its continuation.

WannaWin
Title: Re: feedback for testyourstrategy.com
Post by: eccl1019 on Jun 15, 04:05 PM 2011
Thanks for the encouragement ya'll.

Here is another new feature, by request!

Until any of the selected following "Has or Has Not" been landed on. . . check out all the options now!
Title: Re: feedback for testyourstrategy.com
Post by: albertojonas on Jul 14, 11:18 PM 2012
easy to beat!
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