This is simple and have used this with other systems.
As we all know, red or black, high, low odd,even , I HAVE SEEN RED SHOW 25 TIMES IN A ROW AND I GUESS THIS IS ALSO POSSIBE WITH OTHER EVEN CHANCE BETS.
THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN WITH WHAT I WILL SHOW YOU BELOW.
RECORD THIS AS A 3 WIDE MATRIX
RECORD THE FIRST SPIN AS RED OR BLACK
RECORD SECOND SPIN AS HIGH OR LOW
REDORD THIRD SPIN AS ODD OR EVEN.
It will look like this
R H O RED, HIGH ODD IN 3 SPINS (ARE YOU STILL WITH ME?
NOW FOR THE NEXT BET, YOU BET SAME AS ABOVE AND DOUBLE TILL YOU GET THE HIT.(3 BETS)
BUT YOU DO NOT ALWAYS GO FOR OPPOSITE OF ABOVE.
YOU PLAY LIKE THIS
SAME
OPPOSITE
SAME
OPPOSITE
SAME
In 100 spins ie 33 .3 matrix lines on you will get 1 or 2 lost, i play this while plaing other systems and wait for the trigger lost, then bet heavy.
be happy to help with your questions.
To beat random, you need to be random, ie switch between all ec bets.
To beat roulette you need to play at least 3 systems at the same time, looking for triggers along the way.
Enchanting idea.
cheers.
I hope OPhis has seen this for the MST....................its a must inclusion. ;)
To beat roulette you need to play at least 3 systems at the same time, looking for triggers along the way.
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---Totally agree...as I usually follow 6-8 at the same time,switching
from one to another as situation requires.
I think this is the only way, 1 system on its own wont work as you well know.
Have read lots of your posts and i know for sure that you know roulette.
Your post are very interesting. I really think this is the answer, but its hard to track lots of systems at the same time, but its also much harder to go to work every day from 9 till 5 for some other monkey.
I will choose the tracking of systems.
never give up is the answer
man invent it, man beat it!!!!
all the best
David
Quote from: mimoto on Jun 01, 03:25 PM 2011
In 100 spins ie 33 .3 matrix lines on you will get 1 or 2 lost
How much did you test this?
Thanks.
Hello, yes ur strategy looks interesting but would u be kind and show me the example of how u bet?
I have tested this on 15 x 100 spin live games at a uk casino
sent me a 100 spins from a live game and i will show you.
Ok ill give u just few numbers just to understand how u play:
1
15
24
33
11
36
7
18
15
23
30
2
24
9
10
0
28
17
4
36
36
13
28
3
14
31
ok so would you play like this?
RHO
SOS
OSO?
PS Hi Vytas im lithuanian also:)))
Heh :) hello Tomas
just a note:
i feel that is pseudo random, as your bet is always sososo....
you wont get killed by strrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreaks
but you will get killed by chops if you enter the wrong foot.
unless you repeat your bet if you won the previuos but it will turn it other way also...
the approach of switching EC's is clever and it is better as anyone has seen the same 9 sequence performed by the 3 ECs at the same time.
i did not
rbr - eoe - lhl
have you?
cheers
1 R
15 L
24 E
33 B
11 L
36 E
7 R
18 L
15 O
23 R
30 H
2 E
24 B
9 L
10 E
0 X
28 H
17 O
4 B
36 H
36 E
13 B
28 H
3 O
14 R
31 H
This is how i would play the above
As you can see, a win on each line.
S RLE
O BLE win on spin 1
S RLO win on spin 2
O RHE win on spin 2
S BLE win on spin 3
O XHO win on spin 2
S BHE win on spin 2
O BHO win on spin 3
S RH win on spin 2
So how many bets you bet at a time 3 or 1? I still don't get it :D
i think he's just doing a 3 step marry on on or against the previous pattern?
looks interesting :)
will test asap !
thanks !
Quote from: Tomla021 on Jun 04, 08:59 AM 2011
I think he's just doing a 3 step marry on on or against the previous pattern?
Thats correct, treat each 3 spins as a mini game and stop on a win, wait for new line to start and start betting again.
but always against the previous 3 line ? right?
No, same as above
opposite to above
same as above
opposite to above
You switch after 3 bets, then switch back.
super interesting bet? it cuts all, can i ask more ?
Can you ask more!
Ask what you wish.
Can you show me with my numbers how u bet , cuz i dont grasp any of this
Read the first post again.
Will try and explain in simple terms.
spin 1 is number 2 which is black
spin 2 is number 12 which is low
spin 3 is number 30 which is even
Now write this down
B L E Now start to bet opposite to the last line, First bet on red, quit if win, second
bet high, quit if win, third bet odd. Double bet each time.
Next 3 spins for example are
spin 4 is number 29 which is black, so lost
spin 5 is number 35 which is high so you win on this bet (this line is now finished.)
spin 6 is number 4 which is even. but you are not betting on this.
Now your lines look like this
B L E
B H E ( WIN ON HIGH)
Now repeat as above, but bet same as above, so your first bet is black, second is high, third is even.
Now keep switching between each line, same, opposite, same, opposite and quit on a win.
As i said in my first post, i play this with other systems looking for the trigger.
I hope i have made this clear?
you always switch? either win or loose?
Cheers.
AL
i get it now thanks
Yes you always switch, otherwise you can get 4 lines repeating.
Only seen 2 lines repeating if you keep switching.
ok! thx for reply. i think it is a more random way of betting. As a system it sure has his merit.
Nice to see you come up with something random to beat roulette, as i feel is the way to go also.
will test it and get back soon
cheers
AL
ran a quick 50 spins, worked very well
i have nothing but say this is a good way.
i realize that i was approaching something similar with different terminology.
it wasn't the same although this one seems to perform even better..
congratulations
@mimoto
That was VERY well explained. Well done! :thumbsup:
Thank You mimoto now i get it and i can say its the best strategy i ever came across
So each time u losing ur double ur bet like 1,2,4,8,16,32,64?
Yes you double your bet each time, play it safe to begin with as you dont want to lose your bankroll.
I always keep an eye on this when playing other systems and when i see a line with no hits i start to bet, but only go 3 steps. accept the loss. dont chase.
Even better is to wait untill you see 2 lines miss.
Combine this with another 2 systems, crossplay 5 is a good one on doz and col.
The more systems you play looking for triggers the better as they cant all fail.
when you get a 0, use the letter above.
For example, look at it like this, we know that an even chance bet can go 25 times the same, so it would be better to start betting once you see 25 and not on the first bet. But this could take forever, hence the reason to have more systems to play at the same time.
That is the answer my friend.
all the best.
I made some tests today.
I must say that it sounds good for the moment :thumbsup:
For example, for the first test, i won 10 units after 57 spins...
Maybe better to stop + 6/8 units, i'll see it after more tests.
Great idea Mimoto, thanks ;)
i will test on BV no zero. so no zero to hurt.
Don't worry about the zero as it won,t have any effect on this game. and it will always be there, its just another number!!!!!
Test it mate, its simple and simple is good, we all think that we have to be mega complex with our systems to beat roulette.
Think of the most complex system re dozens. then just throw 12 chips on the green AND IT WILL BE THE SAME, its all about the triggers following many systems.
I was (last tuesday) at my land casino here in Lyon, France.
I tried Mimoto system with a not greedy winning goal of 5 units (10â,¬ value).
It was very easy to reach my goal. :P
Will probably focus on Dublin bet for next play because of the mess around the table
this last evening ! lol ;)
but i want to use it as i want to also use AMK system (Code 4).
I like the EC's ;D
Thanks guys.
Jordan69
Hi Mate, glad to see you are having some fun results with this system.
Now have a look at stage 2,
THE DOZEN EC SWITCHER.
You are now familiar with recording the ec bets, re same, opposite ect
Whilst record this.
Start also recording the doz it landed in, i call this first doz TOP, MIDDLE doz and BOTTOM doz.
It will look like this
R H E TTM
B L E BMT ( TRIGGER TO START BETTING ON EC FOR 3 STEP MARTY)
When you see the dozen fail, meaning you have no match with the line above.
Start a 3 step progression on the ec, that is you trigger.
You will be playing as before with the ec, same opposite ect.
Hope you understand this and dont be greedy, but we all are!!!!!!
I find this works well.
All the best.
MIMOTO
Interesting. Can you show short example?
Thanks.
Quote from: mimoto on Jun 09, 01:04 PM 2011
R H E TTM
B L E BMT ( TRIGGER TO START BETTING ON EC FOR 3 STEP MARTY)
1. So after the trigger you just bet 1 to 3 times marty and then search for new trigger?
2. If you bet in the first case the same as above then you bet in the second case against the above, am I right?
Thanks.
My session on betvoyager. played with 1unit = $2.
RLE
RLO 1unit (same)
RHE 1unit (op)
RHE 1unit
RLO 1 unit
BLO 1unit
BLO - loss (bet against)
BHO recover with progression
RHO 1unit
total 7 units. in 7 minutes. 60min, approx 55-60 units max incl. progressions.
@ $2 unit = $120/hr.
Thanks for your comments, You must be aware that two lines can fail above each other(this is the most i have seen in 13 x 100 spin games.
So you can go 8 spins without a win if you play every spin. This is to much risk, hence the reason to wait for 1 line to fail before you start betting, Then it can only go 5 spins which is safer.
If you see 2 lines fail as above, then put some proper money on it for 3 spins.
The reason that am looking at the dozens is to try to overcome the two lines failing in a row.
Mimoto
Quote from: mimoto on Jun 10, 06:32 AM 2011
Thanks for your comments, You must be aware that two lines can fail above each other(this is the most I have seen in 13 x 100 spin games.
So you can go 8 spins without a win if you play every spin. This is to much risk, hence the reason to wait for 1 line to fail before you start betting, Then it can only go 5 spins which is safer.
If you see 2 lines fail as above, then put some proper money on it for 3 spins.
The reason that am looking at the dozens is to try to overcome the two lines failing in a row.
Mimoto
playing each letter. $30 on each letter.
RLE
RLO (same)
RHE
RHE
RLO
BLO
BLO
BHO
RHO
i get 14wins, 10 losses(if played on EACH LETTER same/opp). even better results. total profit over $150 using $30 flat bet, and deduct -1 for win, +1 for loss.
so all I did was apply flat bet $30 to each letter. I deduct $1 for win, add $1 for loss. Once i'm below $20 bets, i'm at a good session. its a 50/50 call anyway, and you only need winners to equal losers, and have a higher multiplier.
More information available here.
But this is the basics of the system: TO WIN ONE UNIT FOR EVERY WIN/LOSS. If you win 20 bets and lose 20 bets, YOU WIN 20 UNITS.
Can you write down your bets on each line.
Make it simple, so everyone will understand it.
I will then test it on the games i have recorded.
Many thanks
Mimoto
Quote from: mimoto on Jun 10, 07:04 AM 2011
Can you write down your bets on each line.
Make it simple, so everyone will understand it.
I will then test it on the games I have recorded.
Many thanks
Mimoto
Perfect session. D'alembert strategy. -3 on win, +3 on loss. should have been +4 on loss but forgot. start @ 20 dollar bet.
Here are the results:
BLE now bet each letter same
BLE - each letter same 3 win, 20,17,14
RHO - now bet opp, 2 win, 11,-8,+11
BLO now bet same, 1 win -8,-11,+14
and so on(further results didn't record), just watched as if i'd bet.
total session :
bet 194 units
result +80(20+17+17+11-8+11-8-11+14-11+14-11+14+11-8+11)
the lower you go the better you do. if you are going higher than 20 you are losing money...
benefits of this system? no doubling of bets, martingale. also speed.
disadvantages? losing streak like mimoto says. Can be avoided by waiting for 1 failure then starting bet..
Quote from: marivo on Jun 12, 06:50 AM 2011
Where?
soz. the forum was slow so the link didn't add.
link:://loothog.com/Systems/AAIC.html (link:://loothog.com/Systems/AAIC.html)
Thanks.
Quote from: mimoto on Jun 06, 12:43 PM 2011
For example, look at it like this, we know that an even chance bet can go 25 times the same, so it would be better to start betting once you see 25 and not on the first bet. But this could take forever, hence the reason to have more systems to play at the same time.
............. I was reading your system with interest till I read what you wrote above which is, hmm... how can I say this politely... hmm let's just say "mis-guided thinking." you would gain no advantage whatsoever making any kind of bet after 25 in a row of anything. if you were waiting for 25 in a row of something than you would miss all the bets you could have won before this event happened, and you would lose to all the sequences greater than 25 in a row, the total of which would be statistically equal to the amount of times 25 in a row would hit. ofcourse if you were to bet that the next sequence will be 25 in a row of something or not, that is a different story and the chance for 25 in a row of something to occur next will indeed be small, but after it has already happened the chance for the next outcome remains the same as it ever was. that being said your system may still be a good one.
All i know is that when you are waiting for a trigger as most systems, you are waiting for something to happen or not to happen, I dont quite understand your comments, maybe i did not explain correctly.
What are triggers then?
If on bet 1, i start to bet red and i get 25 blacks in a row, i am in the shit.
If while playing i see 25 reds in a row i would bet black as i have only ever seen 25 in a row, so i have saved 25 bets. Have you ever seen 50 in a row?
The above is only an example of what i mean and i dont play like this.
Just test my system and you will see its better than a lot on here and its making me good money. And very easy to play
1100 readers and no one yet telling me its crap and that they have lost there bankroll.
I think that simply puts people off as we all think we have to be complex to beat roulette.
Test it and tell me where it fails please.
Mimoto
Quote from: Red Nickels on Jun 12, 11:35 AM 2011
............. I was reading your system with interest till I read what you wrote above which is, hmm... how can I say this politely... hmm let's just say "mis-guided thinking." you would gain no advantage whatsoever making any kind of bet after 25 in a row of anything. if you were waiting for 25 in a row of something than you would miss all the bets you could have won before this event happened, and you would lose to all the sequences greater than 25 in a row, the total of which would be statistically equal to the amount of times 25 in a row would hit. ofcourse if you were to bet that the next sequence will be 25 in a row of something or not, that is a different story and the chance for 25 in a row of something to occur next will indeed be small, but after it has already happened the chance for the next outcome remains the same as it ever was. that being said your system may still be a good one.
red nickels. either You are in it to win it as they say. worrying about 25 in a row ain't gonna help. average I normally see max 12 in a row anyway.
personally i would only play mimotos way after we see a a failure of 2 triggers then go in.
Quote from: Halba1 on Jun 12, 02:59 PM 2011
red nickels. either You are in it to win it as they say. worrying about 25 in a row ain't gonna help. average I normally see max 12 in a row anyway.
personally I would only play mimotos way after we see a a failure of 2 triggers then go in.
........... you totally and completely did not get what I was saying and the reason I was saying it. nevermind, whatever. it seems I read here another statement that the zeroes "have no effect" on this system. and why is that, might I ask?
I'm sorry mimoto,but your system is nonsense.
1)Why does zero not affect it?I really don't understand!
2)Change every three spins "Same,Opposite"etc doesn't modify at all the negative mathematical expectancy of each bet
3)Waiting for a trigger before betting is a very old and useless way of playing,related to the gambling fallacy
4)I was curious and I tested your method after a "virtual" fail.as you suggest!
A disaster!! I've lost several time and win very often,but the balance was very negative.
Really do you think that your very simple method can defeat roulette,after 2 centuries of studies, tests,computer trials,etc
I would like to be a dreamer, like you are!
why not put a percentage on the green lady?
:sad2:
Quote from: beretta28 on Jun 13, 04:37 AM 2011
I'm sorry mimoto,but your system is nonsense.
1)Why does zero not affect it?I really don't understand!
2)Change every three spins "Same,Opposite"etc doesn't modify at all the negative mathematical expectancy of each bet
3)Waiting for a trigger before betting is a very old and useless way of playing,related to the gambling fallacy
4)I was curious and I tested your method after a "virtual" fail.as you suggest!
A disaster!! I've lost several time and win very often,but the balance was very negative.
Really do you think that your very simple method can defeat roulette,after 2 centuries of studies, tests,computer trials,etc
I would like to be a dreamer, like you are!
I would like to be a dreamer, like you are!
I bet you would, with money in my pocket made from using this.
I have read all your post mr glass half empty, maybe you should change your name to MR POSITIVE!!!!
Yes, sure why not if that makes us all happy, I know that you know this game.
ALL the best to you. whats up with beretta?
system works, if played exactly as mimoto said. you just need progression, you need to play for each line.
its just like pattern 4. confusing random.