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All I have to say is wow. I love progressions, and the systems that use them, but this is beginning to look promising. All I am doing is placing 2 units on the 1st Dozen, and 3 units on High. That basically makes the 13-18 line the only losing bet. When you win, you only gain 1 unit, and when you lose, well, say good bye to 5 units.
In the graph I have attached below (RX) you will see some nice profits. Keep in mind, I am using $25 chips in this example on a NO-ZERO roulette wheel (so this can be done on Bet Voyager). Also note how at exactly 13,000 spins, I have exactly 15,000 units in my bankroll. :xd:
One last thing, what if we were to get on BV and set it to autospin??? Periodically checking the profits and (and hopefully not) losses. . . The idea is to set it and forget it. I think BV can definitely put out 5k spins per day, if not more, on autospin. Just watch the profits come in. The higher your unit size, the better obviously.
Edit: I'm running the spins now on Bet Voyager free play. This time using $30 Units, which is the max you can play on the table. $60 on the 1st Dozen, $90 on High. Netting $30 per win, and losing $150 on 13-18. Up $1000 in 3 minutes. Not touching anything, just periodically looking at the table. Noticing that BV runs the spins at about 20 spins a minute. So in theory, 1200 spins per hour at the fastest setting.
it's a fluke
wow
:wink:
Welcome!
As a new member you may be unaware that there are accounts on the forum of RNG software countering a player's efforts to be profitable.
And it is well documented here and elsewhere that results in RNG play mode are generally different to RNG 'live' mode for real money.
So it's interesting that you've presented this method on RNG (slot-machine-software) and on not a live wheel.
So that begs two questions:
May we ask why RNG and not a proper wheel?
And do you work for Bet Voyager?
Haha, no, I don't work for BV. I'm a US player that's going to have to do some tricks to even play there eventually. And maybe I'm ignorant, but I haven't seen a no-zero wheel at any other site, let alone LIVE. If I could find a live no-zero wheel, I'd want to play it! Now, I do realize it's sort of on the up curve and could crash, so how can we avoid the moodswings? Perhaps the rng DOES read your moves, even at Bet Voyager after continuous play. What about in short bouts?
i tested it on BV. it is giving similar results. you lose -5 units when it hits that line. but overall it is trending up slowly....
and without martingale, you aren't increasing bets, can't blow the bankroll.
it is working because no zero.
here is an earlier post of mine that may be of interest, perhaps played hit and run flat betting:
Quote from: Midnight Player on May 24, 04:04 PM 2011
For the French tables, add a 1/10th of a unit bet on the zero, if it hits, the 1-18 bet of 3 units receives back half the bet i.e 3/2=1.5 plus the 3.6 units return on the zero pay out totals 5.1 units which means that your total bet is returned on a zero hitting ( 2 units on the 3rd doz + 3 units on the EC and 1/10 unit on the zero, total = 5.1 units)
Total on a win equals 1 unit minus 1/10 unit on zero = 9/10th's of a unit (My B&M table minimum bet is 10 times the inside bet minimum)
Cheers
MP
Quote from: iancloud2001 on Jun 07, 08:57 PM 2011
All I have to say is wow. I love progressions, and the systems that use them, but this is beginning to look promising. All I am doing is placing 2 units on the 1st Dozen, and 3 units on High. That basically makes the 13-18 line the only losing bet. When you win, you only gain 1 unit, and when you lose, well, say good bye to 5 units.
In the graph I have attached below (RX) you will see some nice profits. Keep in mind, I am using $25 chips in this example on a NO-ZERO roulette wheel (so this can be done on Bet Voyager). Also note how at exactly 13,000 spins, I have exactly 15,000 units in my bankroll. :xd:
One last thing, what if we were to get on BV and set it to autospin??? Periodically checking the profits and (and hopefully not) losses. . . The idea is to set it and forget it. I think BV can definitely put out 5k spins per day, if not more, on autospin. Just watch the profits come in. The higher your unit size, the better obviously.
Edit: I'm running the spins now on Bet Voyager free play. This time using $30 Units, which is the max you can play on the table. $60 on the 1st Dozen, $90 on High. Netting $30 per win, and losing $150 on 13-18. Up $1000 in 3 minutes. Not touching anything, just periodically looking at the table. Noticing that BV runs the spins at about 20 spins a minute. So in theory, 1200 spins per hour at the fastest setting.
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what is your starting bankroll?
vundarosa
i tested it on BV, with the following rules. I also used martingale progression. The results are even better.
On average, you will experience a two-in-a-row or more loss once every 40 spins. With such a low “losses in a row†rate, you can formulate simple winning progressions to take advantage of these great odds.
Our “basic bet†is 3/2 (3 chips on 1-18 and 2 chips on the 3rd Dozen). Continue to bet 3/2 until you have a loss (when 0,00.19,20,21,22,23 or 24 comes up).
After your first losing bet, increase your bet to 9/6 (9 chips on 1-18 and 6 chips on the 3rd Dozen).
If that bet wins, continue to bet 9/6 for the next bet, if that wins you have then made a 1 unit profit. Once in profit go back to the basic bet of 3/2.
Converting Four-in-a-row Losses to Winners
We have found a secret that eliminates most four-in-a-row losses! Anytime one of the eight losing number shows up, switch to the opposite two bets for the next bet: (on the next bet after a loss, place 9 chips on 19-36 and 6 chips on the 1st Dozen). Then, switch back to your normal bets.
What is the best flat roulette betting system
the results are faster with martingale progression(you won't lose more than 3 times in a row)
Dont want to break your dream but
2 units on 1st 12, 3 units on High, 212220 spins = -36 units (what ever is unit value)
and RNG is not roulette!
br, normy
@Normy2000
Is Ur test against RX or against BV No Zero?......(RNG=Computer Roulette)
Hi Chrisbis,
Nome of them! ??? . I just love Rx and i dont play rng="Computer Roulette" since it's not roulette.
I'm just showing that a 6:1 bet have no reason to win on a 36 spins cycle (in rng) where there is six places to go, as you can see.
br, normy
@ Normy200000000
Ok.
I Understand.
It looks like RX results graph U posted up tho!? Maybe its just me. :-[
I think U need to play at BV NZ to fully understand the advantage being offered their.
BV NZ is just a weird place for Roulette type results-
(does that sound better then instead of claiming that its DOES give Roulette Results?)
If U can play at BV, then do a test for ur self.
Its a weird weird place all-right!!
C ya. :thumbsup:
@ Vunderosa
My starting bankroll is always 500. Now mind you, I know that this can easily dip and head into the negative, but no one says you have to LET it get that far. Let's say you play for sessions that put you up 500 units, and put a stop loss if it goes under 250. Since most of the time, you'll make it to 1000, you can afford a few 250 losses, no? And it's almost automated income. . .
Alright, here's another method using Bet Voyager, but this time using their "Equal Odds" European Roulette which has a single zero, BUT gives you 36:1 on inside bets. What I do is put 5 units on 30 numbers. Usually, I leave out 13-18 for consistencies sake. I start a new session, put the RX on auto-spin until i hit +5000 units, and I start with 500. If it goes under -1000, I quit. It works most of the time. Try it, and tell me what you think. Keep the bets flat too.
Make sure to set RX to single zero roulette, and set all of the inside number payouts to 36.
guys u have a good luck, and i wish u a good luck, but this stuff can't win on a long run.
only if BV has some bias which is possible, but they will fix it for sure if this is a case
Quote from: iggiv on Jun 11, 11:37 PM 2011
Guys You have a good luck, and I wish you good luck, but this stuff can't win on a long run.
only if BV has some bias which is possible, but they will fix it for sure if this is a case
what about a stop profit target, quit and reopen program?
it's good and necessary stuff (hit-n-run, target, stop-loss) but i don't believe it can work consistently.
anyway no consistent bet has worked for roulette so far and there is no reason it will work consistently for RNG. though for some time it may. but don't hold your breath. be prepared for
sinking.
Quote from: Halba1 on Jun 08, 05:44 AM 2011
i tested it on BV, with the following rules. I also used martingale progression. The results are even better.
On average, you will experience a two-in-a-row or more loss once every 40 spins. With such a low “losses in a row†rate, you can formulate simple winning progressions to take advantage of these great odds.
Our “basic bet†is 3/2 (3 chips on 1-18 and 2 chips on the 3rd Dozen). Continue to bet 3/2 until you have a loss (when 0,00.19,20,21,22,23 or 24 comes up).
After your first losing bet, increase your bet to 9/6 (9 chips on 1-18 and 6 chips on the 3rd Dozen).
If that bet wins, continue to bet 9/6 for the next bet, if that wins you have then made a 1 unit profit. Once in profit go back to the basic bet of 3/2.
Converting Four-in-a-row Losses to Winners
We have found a secret that eliminates most four-in-a-row losses! Anytime one of the eight losing number shows up, switch to the opposite two bets for the next bet: (on the next bet after a loss, place 9 chips on 19-36 and 6 chips on the 1st Dozen). Then, switch back to your normal bets.
link:://howtobeatroulette.co.uk/worlds-best-and-safest-roulette-system/ (link:://howtobeatroulette.co.uk/worlds-best-and-safest-roulette-system/)
the results are faster with martingale progression(you won't lose more than 3 times in a row)
so if you switch to the opp bets for the next bet, and it looses again, what do you do? switch back to original (3 chips on 1-18 and 2 chips on the 3rd Dozen) or continue another round of of opp bet?