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Title: IT IS THE PROGRESSIONS THAT ARE THE PROBLEM
Post by: warrior on Jun 12, 12:20 PM 2011
WHO AGREES  there are many bets selction on this form that are great ,but the issue is the progression that is where we need to focus more.
Title: Re: IT IS THE PROGRESSIONS THAT ARE THE PROBLEM
Post by: Twisteruk on Jun 12, 12:36 PM 2011
I agree  ;D


You know I love a Grand Marti  :D
Title: Re: IT IS THE PROGRESSIONS THAT ARE THE PROBLEM/sometimes!
Post by: chrisbis on Jun 12, 02:28 PM 2011
............and equally for me, is designing the Progression list to stay within
the confines of the table bet limits!

But at the same time, slowing the bets sequence right down, to give me more
"Capture" time, and increase the number of levels!
???

Title: Re: IT IS THE PROGRESSIONS THAT ARE THE PROBLEM
Post by: ewarwoowar on Jun 12, 02:48 PM 2011
i agree christopher. personally i think that the early stages of a progression should be about profit and the later stages about protection.
as you rightly put it, increasing your 'capture' time
Title: Re: IT IS THE PROGRESSIONS THAT ARE THE PROBLEM
Post by: chrisbis on Jun 12, 02:54 PM 2011
@ ewarwoowar

Nicely put my friend!  >:D

Take the Profit..................

Return BR to Sender...........!!  :wink:
Title: Re: IT IS THE PROGRESSIONS THAT ARE THE PROBLEM
Post by: LuckyLucy on Jun 12, 04:46 PM 2011
Thats so strange, I was just thinking that.  I was reading the 9 step H/L pattern on systems and was just thinking I really like this system, but is there anyway of extemnding it over the full 9 numbers in the pattern! I guess like a lot of newbies, I just heard of the Martingale, (although I didnt know it was called that) all these websites, extolling the virtues of this system.   I discovered pretty soon its a dangerous way to play!

Well from my experince anyway, I would love to find a long steady progression, maybe we can come up with something between us? Im currently looking at the La Bouchere progression, is that any good? x
Title: Re: IT IS THE PROGRESSIONS THAT ARE THE PROBLEM
Post by: Midnight Player on Jun 12, 05:02 PM 2011
I sometimes increase my progression levels by betting on the high lows on the double streets as I can then use a smaller chip value (1/10th x 3 chips)
the same goes for dozens...
Title: Re: IT IS THE PROGRESSIONS THAT ARE THE PROBLEM
Post by: LuckyLucy on Jun 12, 05:11 PM 2011
Thats a good idea Midnight!

How about some kind of progressiuon on the quads? Or Double streets?
Title: Re: IT IS THE PROGRESSIONS THAT ARE THE PROBLEM
Post by: D1 on Jun 12, 05:21 PM 2011

Flat bet from your bank and only increase bets on a win with the casino's money,

sometimes it works sometimes it dosent,

Example: 10 units red,red wins return 20 units

Next bet 10 units of casino money on red,red wins return 20 units,

Next bet 20 units of casino money on red,red wins 40 units etc etc

Or bet a percentage of your win,

Example 10 units red,red wins 20 units return,

Next bet now only bet 5 units red

so you put your 10 units back into your bank plus 5 units profit and bet the remaining 5 units
etc etc,

D1.
Title: Re: IT IS THE PROGRESSIONS THAT ARE THE PROBLEM
Post by: warrior on Jun 12, 05:42 PM 2011
This is great roulette plAYERS ,I'm looking into the AAIC  BY STANK, I'm trying to see if it can be usefull with hit and run bet selection,as long as we win more then lose ,then the other one is by jordan BET LIGHT AND BET HEAVY, this if tested properly ex .not with a bet selection that calls for continuos betting it should fair very well its all about keeping our profits safe in my opinion ,and then there is the one I thought of for us trigger bettors using a virtual marty so if you wait for a bet selection to lose x amount of spins lets say 2, in the marty you would lose 1 -2 =3 so on the 3rd bet you would start your units at 4 and pretend that you have lost 3 units as if you were betting just an idea and use this idea with a fibo. what do you guys thinkon all 3 ideas, warrior.
Title: Re: IT IS THE PROGRESSIONS THAT ARE THE PROBLEM
Post by: LuckyLucy on Jun 12, 05:47 PM 2011
Sorry thats a bit over my head! lol I take it marty is martingale?

Would this be used in a hit and run type of approach?
Title: Re: IT IS THE PROGRESSIONS THAT ARE THE PROBLEM
Post by: warrior on Jun 12, 05:52 PM 2011
Quote from: LuckyLucy on Jun 12, 05:47 PM 2011
Sorry that's a bit over my head! LoL I take it marty is martingale?

Would this be used in a hit and run type of approach?
yes i think it could be used on a bet selection ex. P4 WAIT FOR A LOSS OF 3 and continue the progression on the 2nd game so virtualy you lost 7 units ,so in the 2nd game you would star your betting on 8 unit  just an idea.
Title: Re: IT IS THE PROGRESSIONS THAT ARE THE PROBLEM
Post by: iggiv on Jun 12, 07:23 PM 2011
there should be as few and as little progressions as possible.
Title: Re: IT IS THE PROGRESSIONS THAT ARE THE PROBLEM
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Jun 12, 10:32 PM 2011
Imo progressions can be used. However i reckon they should be used with caution. Know your bet selection and its normal fluctuations. THen try and build a progression that works together with that. Doest have to win all the sessions, just the vast majority of it :D. As  you go higher in the progression however, do not try and take back everything on 1 spin. There's always a run that would beat your progression. Sometimes you just have to bit the bullet.


Im also a fan of intra "game" positive progressions to hit your win target early. iE win a mini session and then use a positive progression to achieve your win target earlier. ie i use 50% of my profit to increase my base bet :D

cheers
hamsup
Title: Re: IT IS THE PROGRESSIONS THAT ARE THE PROBLEM
Post by: albalaha on Jun 13, 12:19 AM 2011
Bet selection and progression both are equally important and work together for gain at last. Any one will not be able to do any good in isolation. I think best progression to play an EC for entire session can only be labouchere which earns in just 1/3rd hits and not as dangerous as martingale or grand martingale while yielding better than martingale. If someone has a nice and logical betselection, labouchere can do wonders.
Title: Re: IT IS THE PROGRESSIONS THAT ARE THE PROBLEM
Post by: albertojonas on Jun 13, 01:38 AM 2011
from my experience

i play for dynamic target profits depending on the number of losses i suffered.

i play with with 100 units for a profit of 10 units flat betting.
after first loss my win target is 9
after second is 8
etc ...

i only would use progression after i am bellow zero point.



Title: Re: IT IS THE PROGRESSIONS THAT ARE THE PROBLEM
Post by: Blood Angel on Jun 13, 01:59 AM 2011
Quote from: albertojonas on Jun 13, 01:38 AM 2011
From my experience

i play for dynamic target profits depending on the number of losses I suffered.

i play with with 100 units for a profit of 10 units flat betting.
after first loss my win target is 9
after second is 8
etc ...

i only would use progression after I am bellow zero point.





Thank you for sharing that...interesting.
Title: Re: IT IS THE PROGRESSIONS THAT ARE THE PROBLEM
Post by: warrior on Jun 13, 10:00 AM 2011
Quote from: albertojonas on Jun 13, 01:38 AM 2011
From my experience

i play for dynamic target profits depending on the number of losses I suffered.

i play with with 100 units for a profit of 10 units flat betting.
after first loss my win target is 9
after second is 8
etc ...

i only would use progression after I am bellow zero point.




thats interesting AL  are you using a bet selection that is continuos,or trigger orient.