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Title: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: Twisteruk on Jun 16, 05:59 AM 2011
Hey guys

I had a really good convo with a friend of mine and this topic came up, how much would you pay to be taught how to win at Roulette ?

Lets say, for the sake of argument, that you had been given a demo on live play and saw it with ure own eyes.
Even twice or 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 or more times and always a win (no fun practice mode, REAL)

So now ure convinced,You have seen a demo maybe a dozen times at a real well known casino


What would you pay to be taught how to win ?
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: albertojonas on Jun 16, 06:09 AM 2011
50% of winnings

Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: esoito on Jun 16, 06:26 AM 2011
A good education and training is never wasted.

If a person is making decisions that cost them money because they are wrong decisions then their expertise is lacking.

If another person is making consistent decisions that MAKE them money because they are right decisions then their expertise is considerable.

So, if that person is prepared to teach their techniques to the loser, then the loser will probably be prepared to pay a fee in proportion to the amount they have lost.

I know that's fudging the question (just a touch LOL) but it's almost impossible to give a definitive answer.

Good question, though!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: albalaha on Jun 16, 06:39 AM 2011
It is priceless if someone can teach, how to win. Any price will not suffice.
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: carpanta on Jun 16, 06:42 AM 2011
What you expose is a fairy tale or scam as usual.

If somebody has the wits to develope a consistent winning system/strategy/method whatever you want to call it he/she wouldn't be so dumb to sell it.

It should give enough profits to make anybody disregard that idea.

Another thing is that person wants for his sake to share it openly. For whatever reason.
F**k casinos or maybe, he is considering winning the Nobel price.  ;D
Or it requieres too much recording, tracking, calculations lazy players would desestimate it.

Besides if such system existed you could write it on the casinos walls in BIG letters and there would be as many losers as always. Greed, conduct would spoil it.

Just my opinion.

Cheers,
Carlos.
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: albertojonas on Jun 16, 06:45 AM 2011
i must agree with you carpanta.

i still believe there is a circle of individuals that share for the pure pleasure of knowledge.

Cheers,
AL
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: carpanta on Jun 16, 07:00 AM 2011
You made the point Alberto.

The pleasure of teaching and showing roulette is beatable in spite of mathematical concerns about it.

Maths says the game can't be beaten. It is true.
Yet, I have't heard the wheel can't be beatten by math. :ol

Cheers,
Carlos.
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: Drazen on Jun 16, 07:33 AM 2011
Many of them here on forum are trying to do same things as Twister explained right now  :yawn: (Behind the curtains of course) Some of the greatest members with great knowledge left just because of this... You dont have to pay anything to learn, especialy here. I ll give you good example how can you ALWAYS win on roulette. The whole point is in your BANK! There are many systems on this forum for which is a joke to win lets say 10-20 units. And what when your chip size would be 10 euros/dolars? Then you would have 100/200 euros...Simple math. With corresponding bank for that of course... When you reach phase when you have enuogh bank to win lets say 5 units (which is for good players ridicolous realy...) and your unit is 50 euros, that would be 250 euros in a few spins... BUT AFTER THAT YOU GO AWAY AND DONT THINK FOR PLAYING ROULETTE FOR THAT DAY ANYMORE. To build bank like that, playing on that way, you will need many many years if you dont have good start bankrool. But that is the only way how you can build your bankroll just from playing... PATIENCE AND NOT TO BE GREEDY with using all common sense... You come to the roulette with 10 units to win 1, not vice versa, and then you LEAVE! With good patience and suistanable method, or combination of methods you will succed in that 99.9% of the time. That is the way how professionals are living. Nothing special there... There is no magical systems, hitting one or few numbers every time....
Dont be fooled about that. Always try to win that 1 unit, but that it can be enough for your daily needs.
Regards
               Drazen
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: LuckyLucy on Jun 16, 07:40 AM 2011
 That's a brilliant question twister, why do you have one?! Lol

If I had one I would share it discreetly,  helping people win would be reward enough for me. If someone proved they had a fool proof unbeatable system, then I would be happy to give a percentage of my winnings. 
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: furple on Jun 16, 07:47 AM 2011
Quote from: LuckyLucy on Jun 16, 07:40 AM 2011
That's a brilliant question twister, why do you have one?! LoL

If I had one I would share it discreetly,  helping people win would be reward enough for me. If someone proved they had a fool proof unbeatable system, then I would be happy to give a percentage of my winnings. 

Exactly my thoughts. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: carpanta on Jun 16, 09:12 AM 2011
A sharp knife is awaiting you Drazen. Naughty boy!!!!  :'(
Are you already asking for mercy?

You'll be pardonned in exchange of social work penalty for the forum.

Cheers,
Carlos.
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: Drazen on Jun 16, 09:20 AM 2011
Quote from: carpanta on Jun 16, 09:12 AM 2011
A sharp knife is awaiting you Drazen. Naughty boy!!!!  :'(
Are you already asking for mercy?

You'll be pardonned in exchange of social work penalty for the forum.

Cheers,
Carlos.
My purpose wasn't to be rude, to offend someone or get banned. Just to tell the truth. And I know how people ended here who were telling things I just said. If you aren't cooperative enough and saying some "things" you are going to get very fast out of here. Anway, all these posts will be removed.
Regards
              Drazen

They have indeed been moved. Why? Because they were nothing at all to do with the thread!

Start another thread if you want to vent your spleen, but keep in mind the forum guidelines if you do.

ADMIN
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: Bayes on Jun 16, 09:26 AM 2011
Quote from: Twisteruk on Jun 16, 05:59 AM 2011
What would you pay to be taught how to win ?

Nothing.  ;D

In my opinion it's not something that can be taught. The best education is making your own mistakes in your own time, and I believe it takes a massive amount of determination to succeed, almost to the point of an obsessive personality disorder.  :D
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: carpanta on Jun 16, 09:28 AM 2011
I was joking mate. Dont take me seriously. Just trying to let things cool down a bit.

Cheers,
Carlos.
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: albertojonas on Jun 16, 09:29 AM 2011
Quote from: Bayes on Jun 16, 09:26 AM 2011
Nothing.  ;D

and I believe it takes a massive amount of determination to succeed, almost to the point of an obsessive personality disorder.  :D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: Twisteruk on Jun 16, 09:35 AM 2011
Quote from: LuckyLucy on Jun 16, 07:40 AM 2011
That's a brilliant question twister, why do you have one?! LoL

If I had one I would share it discreetly,  helping people win would be reward enough for me. If someone proved they had a fool proof unbeatable system, then I would be happy to give a percentage of my winnings. 

No, I dont have one but I have been shown something that blew my mind.

A lady friend of mine plays on BV and I watched her turn 15 Euro into 310 Euro

She really did seem to know what was comin next

That 15 to 310 was over 3 days and i watched on a shared screen. It was for real money. No big bets. No doubling up.

Anyway I get to watch some more tonight

Im sure there is a price to pay, but we shall she !

I myself want to see her play lots more and to her credit she said I can watch her play anytime
So I will  ;D !
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: carpanta on Jun 16, 09:39 AM 2011
Quote from: Bayes on Jun 16, 09:26 AM 2011
Nothing.  ;D

In my opinion it's not something that can be taught. The best education is making your own mistakes in your own time, and I believe it takes a massive amount of determination to succeed, almost to the point of an obsessive personality disorder.  :D

Absolutely. It could be taught 60% percent. Rest is right conduct, yes, massive determination and jeopardize your brain in the meantime. Be obssesive is a must to achieve such big challenge. Once you are on it you can cool down.
Is it worthy the goal?

Cheers,
Carlos.
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: Twisteruk on Jun 16, 11:58 AM 2011
I think its worth the Goal. I mean thats why we are all here !

I have to say ive never seen BV so totally owned lol

But it has just been 3 days/Sessions watchin her  ;D
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: albalaha on Jun 16, 12:08 PM 2011
Very true Paul,
             We all are here to learn better ideas to earn from this game. I do claim to have something like holy grail but earning that much every day (if she claims that) is insane. By the way is she a member of this forum? where does she live?
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: Twisteruk on Jun 16, 12:32 PM 2011
Quote from: albalaha on Jun 16, 12:08 PM 2011
Very true Paul,
            We all are here to learn better ideas to earn from this game. I do claim to have something like holy grail but earning that much every day (if she claims that) is insane. By the way is she a member of this forum? where does she live?


I've seen it with my own eyes   :o

She is not a member of this Forum. She lives in the UK.

I saw her deposit 15 Euro then over the space of 3 nights she turned it into just over 300 Euro
If I had not seen it I too would doubt it

She *ONLY* plays the Even chances

At first her bets were 50p and 1.50 etc
then as the BR went up £1 £2 and then £5

The biggest bet I saw her do was £30

One time she put £10 on each on the even chances. High Red Even she said is gonna hit

36 hit

I would say her MM is a bit erratic but other than that she knows when to bet light and bet heavier


So that's about it so far

*IF* she continues to impress me like this I would be happy to pay her to teach me. She is very money driven so I know there will be a charge *BUT* to her credit she hasn't said anything of the sort so far.

Time will tell. Maybe she has just been lucky up to now !

Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: albalaha on Jun 16, 12:38 PM 2011
Paul,
     Buddy. Why don't you invite her on this forum?
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: Twisteruk on Jun 16, 12:41 PM 2011
Quote from: albalaha on Jun 16, 12:38 PM 2011
Paul,
     Buddy. Why don't you invite her on this forum?


I did mate

but she didnt seem to interested

I got the impression she doesnt even know about places like this  :o
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: LuckyLucy on Jun 16, 12:49 PM 2011
Hopefully  I can emulate this lady!  Hmm not sure I would have the confidence to put down £30 on an even chance though. Does it seem like she has a system or more through intuition Twister?
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: albalaha on Jun 16, 12:50 PM 2011
Well, multiplying bankroll 20 times within 3 days is not that much impressive for me because I have achieved this much in a day a few times. The question is can she do it everytime, I mean everyday if not every session. Try few more times. If she continues with this, she has some serious stuff which is worth anything to learn. I would not mind spending even a few thousands bucks to learn something like this.
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: carpanta on Jun 16, 12:50 PM 2011
Quote from: Twisteruk on Jun 16, 12:32 PM 2011
I've seen it with my own eyes   :o

One time she put £10 on each on the even chances. High Red Even she said is gonna hit

36 hit

For being so sure on such bet selection, she should have played 10 pounds straight on 30, 32, 34 and 36 and she would have done 320 instead of 30 while betting 40 pounds instead of 30 on 3 even chances.

I assume she is no pro. A pro knows this.

Cheers,
Carlos.
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: chrisbis on Jun 16, 01:13 PM 2011
Quote from: LuckyLucy on Jun 16, 12:49 PM 2011
Hopefully  I can emulate this lady!  Hmm not sure I would have the confidence to put down £30 on an even chance though. Does it seem like she has a system or more through intuition Twister?

I put 20 Euro down the other day on an EVEN chance,

since there had not been any REDS for 16 spins!!

Beautiful to watch it come in!! (and I thanked the God of Roulette for my gift!)  >:D
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: Twisteruk on Jun 16, 01:14 PM 2011
Quote from: LuckyLucy on Jun 16, 12:49 PM 2011
Hopefully  I can emulate this lady!  Hmm not sure I would have the confidence to put down £30 on an even chance though. Does it seem like she has a system or more through intuition Twister?

At this moment in time, I dont know. Time will tell for sure, it always does !
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: LuckyLucy on Jun 16, 01:15 PM 2011
Just be happy for her!  I think its impressive anyway. She's clearly found something that works for her and is sticking to it. What reason does she have for switching to a more risky inside number strategy, when what she is doing clearly works?  It may just be lady luck, but I'm happy for her, or anyone who beats the casino.
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: Twisteruk on Jun 16, 01:16 PM 2011
Quote from: albalaha on Jun 16, 12:50 PM 2011
Well, multiplying bankroll 20 times within 3 days is not that much impressive for me because I have achieved this much in a day a few times. The question is can she do it everytime, I mean everyday if not every session. Try few more times. If she continues with this, she has some serious stuff which is worth anything to learn. I would not mind spending even a few thousands bucks to learn something like this.

Yes its easy to do with pennies/cents as the risk doesnt feel so overwhelming


And yep I agree, if this holds up. Maybe it will maybe it wont.....

Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: Twisteruk on Jun 16, 01:18 PM 2011
Quote from: carpanta on Jun 16, 12:50 PM 2011
For being so sure on such bet selection, she should have played 10 pounds straight on 30, 32, 34 and 36 and she would have done 320 instead of 30 while betting 40 pounds instead of 30 on 3 even chances.

I assume she is no pro. A pro knows this.

Cheers,
Carlos.

Maybe she wasn't sure

Maybe she was lyin to me and got lucky

Maybe she has just been lucky so far Period

But at this time I'm not gonna neg her on her bet selection, I'm happy just to see it actually happen  ;D

Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: Twisteruk on Jun 16, 01:19 PM 2011
Quote from: LuckyLucy on Jun 16, 01:15 PM 2011
Just be happy for her!  I think its impressive anyway. She's clearly found something that works for her and is sticking to it. What reason does she have for switching to a more risky inside number strategy, when what she is doing clearly works?  It may just be lady luck, but I'm happy for her, or anyone who beats the casino.


Nicely said  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: albertojonas on Jun 16, 01:20 PM 2011
Quote from: albalaha on Jun 16, 12:08 PM 2011
Very true Paul,
             We all are here to learn better ideas to earn from this game. I do claim to have something like holy grail but earning that much every day (if she claims that) is insane. By the way is she a member of this forum? where does she live?

Greed will take us to ruin.
Do you really hope anyone shares anything with you in exchange for your empty claims?

pffff...
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: carpanta on Jun 16, 01:21 PM 2011
Out of curiosity, Chrisbis. What have you been doing during that 16 blacks in a row?

Cheers,
Carlos.
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: flukey luke on Jun 16, 01:21 PM 2011
Hey Twister,  maybe it's mystic meg in disguise. Be extra nice to her, lol.
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: albertojonas on Jun 16, 01:23 PM 2011
Quote from: albalaha on Jun 16, 12:50 PM 2011
Well, multiplying bankroll 20 times within 3 days is not that much impressive for me because I have achieved this much in a day a few times. The question is can she do it everytime, I mean everyday if not every session. Try few more times. If she continues with this, she has some serious stuff which is worth anything to learn. I would not mind spending even a few thousands bucks to learn something like this.

B R A G!!!

when will you quit this redundant posts?
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: Twisteruk on Jun 16, 01:23 PM 2011
Quote from: flukey luke on Jun 16, 01:21 PM 2011
Hey Twister,  maybe it's mystic meg in disguise. Be extra nice to her, LoL.

lol yeah maybe  :D
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: chrisbis on Jun 16, 01:23 PM 2011
Quote from: carpanta on Jun 16, 01:21 PM 2011
Out of curiosity, Chrisbis. What have you been doing during that 16 blacks in a row?

Cheers,
Carlos.

Bis 101 was running on auto!!

Then I noticed what was occurring in the Marquee, and responded.

Doesn't come round too often, but now an again............U have to...............POUNCE!!
Title: Re: What Would You Pay ?
Post by: Twisteruk on Jun 17, 04:17 AM 2011
Well I watched again last night for around 2hrs

The final BR from 15 Euro is now just a little over 650 Euro

And as I thought there is a price to pay to learn this

Im not going to pay it, as its a crazy price

So Im done

Shame really but there you go

End transmission  :yawn: