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Title: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: Twisteruk on Jun 19, 10:55 AM 2011
Lets say you just want to Win 1 single Unit a day, how would YOU do that ? It doesnt have to be Roulette based

Lets say that Unit is £25 or £50 or £100 (whatever suits you)


Just £25 a day is around £700 extra a Month to enjoy


Also could you just play for One Unit !?!?


Lets say you hit your One Unit within 2 minutes, would you think hmmmm maybe One more Unit ?


Anyway I just wondered what your opinion was regarding this  ;D


Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: ZeroBlue on Jun 19, 11:06 AM 2011
Many ways..

flat bet, boffins bet, parlay, positive progressions, regression or mild fibbonaci would do it very easily.

Just watch the LW registry for an EC bet.


I feel you always stop when win, sometimes you restart again. it is a new day within a new day. ;D

one can play an entire week or month in one session or between several sessions in one day...
the hit & run advantage subject does not make any sense to me. it is just a way of denial and a means to enjoy a suspended, temporary state of the joy of being winning.
do not give up any illusion, you yellow bic!
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: superman on Jun 19, 11:07 AM 2011
Hey Paul, hope you are well mate.

I think ANY roulette method will give you 1 unit per day, surely everyone here knows that the first win is never really any sweat to get, I can't remember ever not hitting the first win fairly easy, even testing methods, its usually a good few wins down the line that catch us out.

But like you asked, would you stop there? On PKR poker I played their roulette for about a month doing as you say ONE win and close, go play poker, only playing roulette once per day USING marty on red/black, KISS, rarely did the progression get into double figures, I eventually lost the winnings by trying dozens, but even chances did survive the 1 win rule, 10p a day not bad LOL
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: Twisteruk on Jun 19, 11:14 AM 2011
Quote from: superman on Jun 19, 11:07 AM 2011
Hey Paul, hope you are well mate.

I think ANY roulette method will give you 1 unit per day, surely everyone here knows that the first win is never really any sweat to get, I can't remember ever not hitting the first win fairly easy, even testing methods, its usually a good few wins down the line that catch us out.

But like you asked, would you stop there? On PKR poker I played their roulette for about a month doing as you say ONE win and close, go play poker, only playing roulette once per day USING marty on red/black, KISS, rarely did the progression get into double figures, I eventually lost the winnings by trying dozens, but even chances did survive the 1 win rule, 10p a day not bad LoL


Hi mate  :)

Yeah doin ok today thanx bud  :thumbsup:



Yes ure right ! Its the stoppin isnt it ?


And also havin a Unit size that is worthy of stoppin at



Lets say 50p and you double up 4 times but get ure 50p. Not gonna change ure life much is it


Now lets say we want £50 a day, just to take the edge off life. Now you double up 4 times and get it, well that feels nice. What about the days when you have to go to 5 or 6 double ups !?!?


Its findin that balance isnt ? Hence "safest way" to go about it



Maybe if we want £50 we shud try for 5 x £10 wins


Just food for thought !!
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: Fripper on Jun 19, 11:15 AM 2011
I think you guys have to do some more study on roulette.

It's not possible to win 1 unit for sure (100%) everyday, every year. If you think differently, explain why. because you don't know if you will find the session from hell right from the start. Ofcourse most will win for a long time and even some people will win the rest of their lifes, but there will also be the unlucky ones that will lose directly.

So don't come here and say that it is very easy to win 1 unit everyday 100%..
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: superman on Jun 19, 11:18 AM 2011
QuoteSo don't come here and say that it is very easy to win 1 unit everyday 100%

Nobody said it was easy Marcus, as you say, some day it will catch you out and the decision you take to place that first bet would change depending on the size of that bet, relax mate
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: ZeroBlue on Jun 19, 11:18 AM 2011
Quote from: Fripper on Jun 19, 11:15 AM 2011
So don't come here and say that it is very easy to win 1 unit everyday 100%..

i accept the challenge if you provide the spins.
;)
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: Fripper on Jun 19, 11:20 AM 2011
Quote from: superman on Jun 19, 11:18 AM 2011
Nobody said it was easy Marcus, as you say, some day it will catch you out and the decision you take to place that first bet would change depending on the size of that bet, relax mate

Hmm, read again :)

Quote from: ZeroBlue on Jun 19, 11:06 AM 2011
Many ways..

flat bet, boffins bet, parlay, positive progressions, regression or mild fibbonaci would do it very easily.

Just watch the LW registry for an EC bet.


I feel you always stop when win, sometimes you restart again. it is a new day within a new day. ;D

one can play an entire week or month in one session or between several sessions in one day...
the hit & run advantage subject does not make any sense to me. it is just a way of denial and a means to enjoy a suspended, temporary state of the joy of being winning.
do not give up any illusion, you yellow bic!


I'm just saying that if there was a method that won 1 unit for sure everyday than that would be the holy grail everyone is looking for.

Cheers
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: Fripper on Jun 19, 11:24 AM 2011
Quote from: ZeroBlue on Jun 19, 11:18 AM 2011
i accept the challenge if you provide the spins.
;)

There is many spins in our forum. Just check them out and test your play, like the 700000 betvoyager spins our if you prefer live spins.

If you can beat every spin of does, than you can say that you have roulette beaten..

Play every spin, don't wait 200 spins or whatever becuase remember everything can happen in roulette. Any number or serie can appear at anytime.

Good luck mate :)
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: GLC on Jun 19, 11:45 AM 2011
I have seen a few tests of this idea on different forums over the last few years and unfortunately, they have all failed.

95% of the time it's easy to win 1 unit.  4.5% can be a battle.
It's that .5% time that takes you into the hole and you can't seem to be able to get back out.

What about JL's idea of winning 1 unit per day with his best matrix method.

Maybe he's already got a ton of days of winnning at least 1 unit in his records.

I've thought that along with the 1 unit parameter, there should be a max buy-in just to make it interesting.  Maybe 100 unit buy-in.

Think about it.  If we could make 1 unit every time we sit down at a new table, we could make millions.  Just sit at a lot of tables every day.

G
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: ZeroBlue on Jun 19, 11:53 AM 2011
Quote from: Fripper on Jun 19, 11:24 AM 2011
There is many spins in our forum. Just check them out and test your play, like the 700000 betvoyager spins our if you prefer live spins.
may you suggest one set?

If you can beat every spin of does, than you can say that you have roulette beaten..

Play every spin, don't wait 200 spins or whatever because remember everything can happen in roulette. Any number or serie can appear at anytime.
"That i regard as a misconception, one of the few weapons you have against the game is you can play whenever you want..."

Good luck mate :)

If you may GLC you can set the rules for the challenge.
;-)
this is gonna be fun.
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: MrJ on Jun 19, 11:59 AM 2011
The issue with questions like this..... 1 unit every?? Daily? Every 24 hours? What about every 18 hours? Every 13 hours? etc.

Where is the cutoff point and why is it that important? The ball does not wear a watch. It does not know, ITS NOW 24 HOURS!!

Not stirring the pot, just sayin.

Ken
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: Fripper on Jun 19, 12:01 PM 2011
Quote from: ZeroBlue on Jun 19, 11:53 AM 2011
If you may GLC you can set the rules for the challenge.
;-)
this is gonna be fun.

Yes ofcourse, I attached a file here with 212000 spins that bayes provided.

Play every spin and see what you got.
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: Twisteruk on Jun 19, 12:09 PM 2011
Quote from: MrJ on Jun 19, 11:59 AM 2011
The issue with questions like this..... 1 unit every?? Daily? Every 24 hours? What about every 18 hours? Every 13 hours? etc.

Where is the cutoff point and why is it that important? The ball does not wear a watch. It does not know, ITS NOW 24 HOURS!!

Not stirring the pot, just sayin.

Ken


Ken I see ure point, and agree

But for this question/debate the period is one day or 24hrs



It was more along the lines of "enough to take the edge off life"



For some thats £25 a day for others it would £200 or more, but thats not the point



The point is *HOW* do we win One Point a day doing is safely ?

Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: Drazen on Jun 19, 12:49 PM 2011
Try my method with waking only one sleeper in dozen with most sleepers. I would like to see when and where that is going to fail  :wink: And if I could say my opinion without starting another stu*id debating about RNG-s, I would say that losing that one unit (with good bank, good patience, and good knowledge and all everything else good, beside GOOD GREED) is possible only on RNG, no matter which (again good) system(s) you are playing.
Regards
                Drazen
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: ZeroBlue on Jun 19, 01:16 PM 2011
Quote from: Fripper on Jun 19, 12:01 PM 2011
Yes ofcourse, I attached a file here with 212000 spins that bayes provided.

Play every spin and see what you got.


Play every spin, don't wait 200 spins or whatever because remember everything can happen in roulette. Any number or serie can appear at anytime.
"That I regard as a misconception, one of the few weapons you have against the game is you can play whenever you want..."

Another point is that you can wait until you have what you may regard as a "less negative" expectation. That could be anything you want within a window and that you favor as a condition to interact and play.
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: Maui13 on Jun 19, 01:20 PM 2011
I would play CODE 4
Flat betting, only progression with full line loss.

My 2c

Regards,
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: chrisbis on Jun 19, 01:23 PM 2011
Quote from: Twisteruk on Jun 19, 10:55 AM 2011
Lets say you just want to Win 1 single Unit a day, how would YOU do that ? It doesnt have to be Roulette based

Lets say that Unit is £25 or £50 or £100 (whatever suits you)


Just £25 a day is around £700 extra a Month to enjoy

Also could you just play for One Unit !?!?
Lets say you hit your One Unit within 2 minutes, would you think hmmmm maybe One more Unit ?

Anyway I just wondered what your opinion was regarding this  ;D


Using Bis 101NFS.

Or

Bis-Cending3

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Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: Drazen on Jun 19, 01:26 PM 2011
Considering this many people are maybe suprised now how easy is to be a Pro on roulette  :lol:
Regards
                 Drazen
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: Fripper on Jun 19, 01:33 PM 2011
Quote from: ZeroBlue on Jun 19, 01:16 PM 2011

"That I regard as a misconception, one of the few weapons you have against the game is you can play whenever you want..."

Another point is that you can wait until you have what you may regard as a "less negative" expectation. That could be anything you want within a window and that you favor as a condition to interact and play.

Indeed, you can play whenever you want. But that doesn't change anything becuase the same string of numbers can come after your first session today or your first session tomorrow.

Well, I don't believe much in waiting for an "event". How do you know that it won't get even worse when you enter the game?

The thing I want to say is that it isn't possible to win 1 unit everyday for 100%. That's what I believe and everyone can have their opinion  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: Drazen on Jun 19, 01:38 PM 2011
Dear Fripper, we all know that everything is possibble on roulette, and no one can tell which number (s) are going to hit. But in all this unpredictability, some things we do know. Example that, some numbers must appear once, more than once and there has to be sleeping numbers (sections) So I think that is not hard to use against him to earn that 1 unit. And if you want another example for that I said... One of my favorite bets is EC on lines... they are all not hitting in some order but some of them are sleeping for some time... We all know that.. Hm.. recipe I am using here is very mild progression, one pinch of patience, good bank and satisfactory unit size. . And  that is my recipe for  bread and butter at the same time. How is possible to make them using same ingredients?   :LoL:  And damn, i dont know how ,always happens to me that i have few more, and i am aiming just one. In that case i should return these few extra units to the casino  :) (just a joke)
Regards
                Drazen
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: ZeroBlue on Jun 19, 02:32 PM 2011
Quote from: Fripper on Jun 19, 01:33 PM 2011
Indeed, you can play whenever you want. But that doesn't change anything because the same string of numbers can come after your first session today or your first session tomorrow.

Well, I don't believe much in waiting for an "event". How do you know that it won't get even worse when you enter the game?
there are ways. One must enter the game when there is a clear clue the imbalance starts to correct.

The thing I want to say is that it isn't possible to win 1 unit everyday for 100%. That's what I believe and everyone can have their opinion  :thumbsup:
..for 100%. -This is gambling isn't it? Still you can believe there are more appropriate ways.;-)
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: Drazen on Jun 19, 02:37 PM 2011
In life, and especialy in roulette things are never 100% realy. But we can make them to be 99.9% Still good probability  :thumbsup:
Regards
              Drazen
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: ZeroBlue on Jun 19, 03:29 PM 2011
@fripper

from the spins you provided
by the spin 83000 you would have +375 units playing flat bet on every spin.
;)
that makes for 1 unit a day
average 222 spins a day.
fair enough?

it's a petty that bv will charge you 38 units when you withdraw...

ZeroBlue
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: ZeroBlue on Jun 19, 03:41 PM 2011
Quote from: Twisteruk on Jun 19, 10:55 AM 2011
Lets say you just want to Win 1 single Unit a day, how would YOU do that ? It doesn't have to be Roulette based

Lets say that Unit is £25 or £50 or £100 (whatever suits you)


Just £25 a day is around £700 extra a Month to enjoy


Also could you just play for One Unit !?!?


Lets say you hit your One Unit within 2 minutes, would you think hmmmm maybe One more Unit ?


Anyway I just wondered what your opinion was regarding this  ;D




hey you!
i want my share of the 9125 pounds  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: atlantis on Jun 19, 05:15 PM 2011
Quote from: ZeroBlue on Jun 19, 03:29 PM 2011
@fripper

from the spins you provided
by the spin 83000 you would have +375 units playing flat bet on every spin.
;)
that makes for 1 unit a day
average 222 spins a day.
fair enough?

it's a petty that bv will charge you 38 units when you withdraw...

ZeroBlue

If true,  then that really, really is pretty AMAZING!   :thumbsup:

Regards,
Atlantis.
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: Halba1 on Jun 19, 05:57 PM 2011
Quote from: atlantis on Jun 19, 05:15 PM 2011
If true,  then that really, really is pretty AMAZING!   :thumbsup:

Regards,
Atlantis.

hello zeroblue, what method did you use?

Re: 10% commission to Betvoyager- what would be the result without commissions, is it possible to get same result with the zero.

Also can it be played on baccarat, only 5% commission on banker
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: Playborne on Jun 20, 07:53 AM 2011
I think that the best way is to play with Double Street!
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: Twisteruk on Jun 20, 07:55 AM 2011
Quote from: Playborne on Jun 20, 07:53 AM 2011
I think that the best way is to play with Double Street!

As in play all but one of them ?
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: Fripper on Jun 20, 10:57 AM 2011
Quote from: ZeroBlue on Jun 19, 03:29 PM 2011
@fripper

from the spins you provided
by the spin 83000 you would have +375 units playing flat bet on every spin.
;)
that makes for 1 unit a day
average 222 spins a day.
fair enough?

it's a petty that bv will charge you 38 units when you withdraw...

ZeroBlue

Wow great. Awesome, you have your holy grail. Please don't share it :)

I've also a holy grail right here. After 212000 spins I finished at +302 units!

[reveal]I was betting black..[/reveal]
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: Maui13 on Jun 20, 12:25 PM 2011
I don't mean to be the party pooper....but you guys are semi off topic...

Answer the question:

Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: ZeroBlue on Jun 20, 04:32 PM 2011
Quote from: Fripper on Jun 20, 10:57 AM 2011
Wow great. Awesome, you have your holy grail. Please don't share it :)

I've also a holy grail right here. After 212000 spins I finished at +302 units!

[reveal]I was betting black..[/reveal]
if it works for you keep betting black and sometimes also bet red.
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: albalaha on Jun 20, 09:30 PM 2011
Hey,
            Can you tell me how much risk you are willing to have to win 1 unit only? Without answering this, the question itself becomes vague.
                                   If we have infinite bankroll, any method can yield us 1 unit, like martingale in long run. If we have a sensible bankroll and like to win 1 unit without losing many units, my most preferred bet would be playing Decision before last on say Red/Black with flat betting after a long streak(at least 6 spins) of terrible twins pass and other patterns start to come.
                    Can anybody provide any better idea?
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 20, 10:26 PM 2011
I like the idea of betting 35 units (one unit on every number except two) to win one unit/day.
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: GLC on Jun 20, 10:31 PM 2011
Here's an idea that I think will win the stare-down contest with gambler's fallacy.

It came to me while in one of my contemplation periods.  No doubt triggered by the barometer system outlined in the Monte Carlo Anecdotes.  So that you don't have to go look it up, the author suggests that once you reach +4 betting a certain method on an even chance, you stop betting for real and go virtual until you would have lost back down to even and then you commence betting again.

Using a similar idea, what if we tracked all 3 even chances and when one of the positions in any of the 3 even chances pulls ahead of the other position in that even chance by, say 10 wins within 25-30 spins, we begin flat betting the one that has showed the least for say 10 spins.  Any time we are +1, we call it a day.

Example:  We are tracking and Red hits 15 times to Black 5 times in the last 20 spins.  That means Red is 10 hits ahead of Black so we start betting 1 unit on Black for the next 10 spins or until we are +1 which ever comes 1st.

If we don't reach +1 in those 10 bets, we re-track and play again.  Any time we reach +1, that's it.  Game over.

If we want, we could bet 2 units for 10 bets the second attempt.  If we reach +1, we call it a day.

If we continue losing, we continue increasing our bet sizes for the next 10 bet attempt per, say a regular martingale, fibonacci, alembert, etc... until we finally win 1 unit.

Actually, this may be a good system to use as one of your back-up plans.  Who knows, it could work so well, it becomes your main bread and smokes winner.

Does this end the topic or stir up a hornets nest?

GLC
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: Maui13 on Jun 21, 12:37 AM 2011
@ GLC

I LIKE!!!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: In Your Opinion what is the Best and Safest way to Win One Unit a Day
Post by: ZeroBlue on Jun 21, 07:52 AM 2011
YES!
that is cool and simple.
and it works with the appropriate exposure.

another rule of thumb is to have a safety break.