hello
i know thomas is pro bots on here. but i am not pro bots. they use risky martingale progression. sleepers can sleep for long periods. a surefire scam/bankroll disaster.
horrible. absolutely horrible. i tested a bot on fun mode today using all the settings. down 1500 units.
Quote from: Halba1 on Jun 19, 10:33 PM 2011
Hello
i know thomas is pro bots on here. but I am not pro bots. they use risky martingale progression. sleepers can sleep for long periods. a surefire scam/bankroll disaster.
That's not always true. Some bots can be configured to use any which progression you choose.
Hmmm. any recommendations? The one I try roulette bot plus closes after only 10-15 mins of play.
also R/B, I tried it and lost 1500 units, because it was set to wait 5 only. and high martingale progression.
i changed the settings, but in 15mins no R/B qualified. But i am up 80 units.
Roulettebot Pro if I'm not mistaken lets you use custom systems and progressions.
Thomas would be the one to ask though. He is very specialized in this area.
okay worth a look. as long as you modify. i am encouraged by the tweaked settings, to give me 80 unit gain on demo.
you should try this link- i actually got it from thomas
link:://:.roulettebotplus.com/ (link:://:.roulettebotplus.com/)
it is free
Attention Gents: Ophis has a bot option in the works for MST Project :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Quote from: Halba1 on Jun 19, 10:33 PM 2011
Hello
i know thomas is pro bots on here. but I am not pro bots. they use risky martingale progression. sleepers can sleep for long periods. a surefire scam/bankroll disaster.
Bots are not for me but I guess for reasons other than what you posted.
I'm too old school and choose to place my bets with my hand at a real casino. Not knockin bots....its just not my thing.
Ken
the bot was an absolute disaster. thomas where are you?
lost over 2000 units in 1 day
Don't blame bots for anything...bots only do what you have programmed them to do and nothing else.The only reason that most bots fail even if they use a good system is cause they play faster which means more bets wich means more exposion to the advantage of casino.Well i agree with Mr. J there is nothing better than placing the bets by yourself.After all a lot of situations can occur while in a session and bots can't handle them.
Quote from: Halba1 on Jun 20, 08:12 AM 2011
The bot was an absolute disaster. thomas where are you?
lost over 2000 units in 1 day
1 Warnings were posted in his thread.
2 Hopefully that was only PLAY money you lost -- it should have been, when trying out something new !
Experience is often a harsh teacher, isn't it?
Bots are only as good as the settings the user specifies.
And there's a lot of trial'n'error with
play money to establish settings suitable for each individual player's goals .
Bots are a tool -- nothing more, nothing less.
yeah of course it was only on fun mode
Quote from: Halba1 on Jun 20, 08:05 PM 2011
Yeah of course it was only on fun mode
That's good. But you didn't state that!
Quote from: esoito on Jun 20, 09:33 AM 2011
…And there's a lot of trial'n'error with play money to establish settings suitable for each individual player's goals …
Play money.
What’s everyone’s opinion on using
play money, especially you bot coders who test these things endlessly?
I’ve heard time and time again that your bot will cruise along inflating the bankroll in
play money as if it’s truly unbeatable, then when you switch to real
real money the bot starts to lose and you get wiped out.
From those who have the experience, is it true? Is there a difference between play and real? ???
skakus no difference between play and real. i was down 2000 units on fun mode. if there is a difference, heaven help the bot on real mode. must be the worst money loser in history of mankind then
Skakus, regarding the "play VS real" mode observation: it strictly depends on the casino at hand.
You should treat casinos that use the same RNG procedure for play and real money as the EXCEPTION.
Most casino software goes on the cheap and use a pseudo-random (i.e. software generated) one on play mode, then use a TRUE random generator on real-money betting.
Business-wise it makes sense, since the bandwidth and remote system stress for all the play-mode accounts can be skipped by letting the users' computers generate some pseudo-random numbers locally.
That's more likely the reason why people experience different results when switching from play-mode to real-money mode.
They are actually switching from a poor-quality pseudo-random stream generated by their local PC's to a TRUE specialty-hardware-generated random numerical stream (i.e. using atmospheric noise or atomic decay).
I'm certain the most veteran bot players may be more aware of the casinos which are using the same procedure for both. If I recall right, betvoyager is one of the exceptions using true RNG for free play mode.
Vic
Quote from: Halba1 on Jun 20, 08:52 PM 2011
skakus no difference between play and real. i was down 2000 units on fun mode. if there is a difference, heaven help the bot on real mode. must be the worst money loser in history of mankind then
Is the "bot" malfunctioning or is the system just that poor?
DISCLAIMER.... My knowledge of "bots" and "bot" play is slightly less than my sum total of quantum physics theory and anything attempting to understand women.
AD
Thanks for your explanation, Vic.
That makes sense to me.
So what about the dreaded “Signal lost - Cannot connect to server â€" please log in to continue†type message?
Is that more frequent using real money mode, especially on real wheels? It seems like an easy way to bugger up any progression.
Quote from: Halba1 on Jun 20, 08:52 PM 2011
must be the worst money loser in history of mankind then
Oh I don't know, I've got a few contenders for that title. lol :D