Ok guys, i posted this also on old VLS. Let me give you this idea. Nothing special, maybe even seen before, but anyway you can comment. It is all about simplicity and PATIENCE. I personaly havent seen this before, although some similar systems yes. .
It is good thing to play when you spot situation like that, while you are maybe playing some other system.
Idea is to wait one dozen to hit 3 times in a row and the we play other 2 with progression +2 on a loss -1 on a win unitl we are not +1 in a new high. Then reset and wait another situation like that. You wont have many of them, but I did some tests and works realy realy good. DD are not big at all :) So I am using at least 10 units base bet.
Regards
Drazen
I just finished testing in RX 1500 spins. . . I cant belive what I see. . . What a beauty. . It deserves at least some of tests of people here. I have done my testing, now it is your turn :)
Regards
Drazen
Hi drazen_cro,
Sekuritati posted something similar a while back in this thread:
link:://rouletteforum.cc/the-notepad/wait-for-three-consecutive-spins-of-the-same-dosencolumn-system/msg8029/#msg8029 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/the-notepad/wait-for-three-consecutive-spins-of-the-same-dosencolumn-system/msg8029/#msg8029)
You're suggesting +2 on a loss and -1 on a win until level or ahead?
What was highest progression units you had to play in those 1500 spins?
A.
Quote from: atlantis on Jul 02, 05:41 PM 2011
Hi drazen_cro,
Sekuritati posted something similar a while back in this thread:
link:://rouletteforum.cc/the-notepad/wait-for-three-consecutive-spins-of-the-same-dosencolumn-system/msg8029/#msg8029 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/the-notepad/wait-for-three-consecutive-spins-of-the-same-dosencolumn-system/msg8029/#msg8029)
You're suggesting +2 on a loss and -1 on a win until level or ahead?
What was highest progression units you had to play in those 1500 spins?
A.
Thank you for this, i didn't see this before. Also very interesting. Yes trigger is same, but progression little diferent. +2 on a lose -1 on a win until we are min 1 unit in new profit. In these 1500 spins i had highest progression 9 units. But still this requires more testing.
Regards
Drazen
Hi drazen_cro,
Thanks for clarification. I think it a good system. If I remember rightly I tested it just flatbetting until won +3 or lost -10 units over 20 sessions - and I think only 2 out of the 20 sessions lost...
Anyhow, maybe can be applied to the columns also (with separate bank) for more bets.
Cheers,
A.
Quote from: atlantis on Jul 02, 06:01 PM 2011
Hi drazen_cro,
Thanks for clarification. I think it a good system. If I remember rightly I tested it just flatbetting until won +3 or lost -10 units over 20 sessions - and I think only 2 out of the 20 sessions lost...
Anyhow, maybe can be applied to the columns also (with separate bank) for more bets.
Cheers,
A.
Thanks, yes this i think that could be applied to columns too. You would have more bets at that way, but if your bet is on columns and dozens at the same time you need bigger bankrool.
Regards
Drazen
if you miss, do you increase and rebet or wait new qualifier
Quote from: IIIRAZORIII on Jul 02, 07:58 PM 2011
if you miss, do you increase and rebet or wait new qualifier
Yes increase and rebet, because i always get in plus through next few spins. You can also play to aim only on 1st or 2nd hit, something like sekuritati is playing, if no hit, stop and continue with that amount of units on next qualifier.
Regards
Drazen
Quote from: drazen_cro on Jul 03, 03:12 AM 2011
Yes increase and rebet
Rebet means to wait another 3 spins with same doz in raw, right?
Thanks.
Quote from: marivo on Jul 03, 05:42 AM 2011
Rebet means to wait another 3 spins with same doz in raw, right?
Thanks.
Well after you lose on 1st hit after trigger, you can wait another 3 hits in row (like sekuritati suggested) and bet with +2 from last bet or you can continue at that way next few spins because from my test i concluded you will be in plus quickly very often, then stop and wait new trigger. I hope you understand these ideas. In other words much more time you won't have 6 hits in a row on same dozen. Of course that can happen, but so you stop after 2nd lose, wait to hit sleepeing dozen, then waiting new trigger. I did quite some testing and this has some merit.
Regards
Drazen
Ok. Thanks.
I tried it Drazen_cro and it is better as a "hit and run" system. One win, leave.
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Jul 03, 12:29 PM 2011
I tried it Drazen_cro and it is better as a "hit and run" system. One win, leave.
Thanks for testing, but when you are reseting after every new high on 1 unit, isnt that same thing as always starting new session until 1 hit?
Regards
Drazen
In theory, yes, but when I tested the system it would win the first attempt then lose two or three times before the next win.
so what about playing after in the total games you are losing by 5?
maybe it would turn it very holy schmolly as Hermes says.. ;)
example:
11 games result: 3 wins 8 losses
then start betting
???
also i would only play it for dozen 1 & 3 in a La partage rule table with 3 chips on High or Low and 1 chip on line 3 or 4.
ALSO WE COULD TRY...
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*there are 27 formations for groups of 3 consecutive dozens/columns
so there are 9 groups "matrix style" starting with each one
example dozzen 3
311
312
313
321
322
323
331
332
333
so we can try instead of hitting the sleeper, bet that it will sleep one more time.
Zer0Blue
For the above suggestion here is a test made over Bayes "Hell Session nr.1"
33
22
28 323
0
4
25 312
1
21
18
19
8
25 323
13
26
22
16
9
34 333
29
28
19
3
11
9
8
17
33 333
28
30
24
18
6
29 332
32
22
13
1
11
3
33 322
22
14
17
27 313
12
35
8
19
28 331
30
2
22
28 321 Trigger- From now on we will bet against the formation 311 (sleeper) to happen.
19
8
28 333 WIN
34
35
24
26 333 W
29
35
22
29 312 W
1
22
33 313 W
2
34
22
6
12
9
33 321 W
24
7
15
31 321 W
19
1
17
11
19
20
32 322 W
15
15
34 322 W
19
13
34 322 W
13
28
20
33 313 W
9
31
15
35 321 W
13
6
These are several attacks displayed until a loss but we should aim (in the beggining) for one Win and restart.
Why?
...not because hit & run :)
but because the frequency of hits in a window.
for dozen 3 we got our trigger much sooner than for dozen 2
10 virtual games Vs 16 virtual games until trigger.
If you run a simulator and get frequencies for how many games we need to complete a cycle of all 9 formations.
Then we can get optimal attack windows.
;)
hope someone runs it in Rx or so.
Zer0Blue
Very good idea Zero, thanks. Yes we should have different approaches to test and to conclude, which goes better.
Regards
Drazen
A modified Pattern Breaker for dozens. Interesting
If the strike rate is high enough on the first trigger of the original version, maybe a one time moderate to heavy bet might work...
As I stated in Zeros thread, its the consistnacy thats the issue I find with covering two dozens or columns. Surely there has to be a way to place consistant bets and win...hmmm thinking cap on.