[As requested - moved to its own thread - A.]
This might be interesting to some.
Here is a 1000 spin continuous test (results from random.org)
Tracked 2 lines then look at last TWO vertical results in each column.
If the results are different then bet for the CHOP to continue...
If the results are the same then bet for the STREAK to continue...
STOP AT A WINNER!
Use GLC EC progression?
H L L L - first line results
L L L H - second line results
L H H L - L,L,L,W
H H L L - L,L,W
H L L H - L,L,L,L
L H L L - L,W (6th step)
L L H L - L,W
L L H H - W
L L L L - W
L L L L - W
L H H L - W
L L H H - W
H L L H - L,L,L,L
L L H L - W (5th step)
H H L H - W
H L L H - L,W
H L H H - W
L H H H - L,L,L,W
L H H L - L,L,W
L L L L - W
H L L L - L,L,L,W
L H L H - W
L L L H - L,W
L H L L - W
H H L H - L,L,W
L H L L - L,W
L L H H - L,L,L,W
L H L H - W
H L H L - L,W
H L H H - L,L,L,W
L L L L - L,W
L H H L - L,L,W
L L L H - W
H L L L - L,L,L,W
H L L L - L,W
H H L L - W
L H H L - L,L,L,W
L L H L - L,L,L,W
H L L L - L,L,L,W
L H H H - W
L H L H - L,L,W
H L H L - L,L,W
L H H L - W
L L L H - L,W
H H L H - L,W
L L L H - W
L H H H - L,W
L H H H - W
H H L H - L,W
H H L L - L,W
H H H L - W
L H H L - L,W
H L L L - W
H L H L - L,L,W
H H L L - W
L L H L - L,W
L L H L - L,L,L,W
L L H H - W
H H H H - L,L,W
L H L H - W
L H H H - L,W
L L L L - W
H H H L - L,W
L L H H - W
L H L L - L,W
H H H L - L,L,W
L H H L - W
H L H H - W
H L H H - L,L,W
H H L L - W
H L L L - W
H L H H - W
H L L L - W
L H H H - L,L,W
H H L L - W
H H H H - L,W
H L L H - W
L L L L - L,L,L,L
H L H L - W (5th step)
L L L H - W
H L L L - W
L L L L - W
L H H H - L,L,L,L
L H L H - W (5th step)
H H H L - L,W
H H L L - L,W
H L H L - W
L H L H - L,W
L H H L - L,L,W
L H L H - W
L L L L - W
L L L L - W
H L L H - L,W
L L L H - W
L H L H - L,L,W
L H L L - W
L L H H - W
H L L L - L,L,W
L H L L - W
L L H L - L,W
L H L L - W
H L H L - L,W
L L L L - W
L H H H - L,L,W
H H H H - L,L,L,L
L L L L - W (5th step)
L L H H - L,L,W
H H L H - L,L,W
H L L H - L,W
H H H L - W
L L H L - L,W
L H H L - L,W
L H L L - W
L H H L - W
L L H H - W
H H H L - L,W
H L L L - L,W
H L H L - W
H L H L - W
H H L L - W
H L L H - W
L L L L - L,L,W
H L H L - W
L H H L - W
H L L L - W
L H H L - W
L H L H - L,L,W
H L H H - L,L,W
H L L H - L,L,W
L L L L - L,W
L L L L - L,W
H H L H - L,L,W
L L H H - W
L H H L - L,W
L L L H - W
H L H L - L,L,W
H H H L - L,L,L,L*
L H L H - L,L,L,L*
L L H L - L,L,W (11th step)
H L H H - L,L,L,W
L H L H - W
L H L H - L,L,L,W
L H H H - W
H L H H - L,L,L,W
L L H L - W
L L H H - L,W
H H L H - L,L,L,L
H H H L - L,L,W (7th step)
L H H H - L,W
L L L L - L,L,L,W
L H H H - W
L L L L - W
L H L H - W
H L H H - L,W
H L H H - L,L,L,W
L L L L - L,W
L L H L - L,W
L H L L - W
H H H H - L,L,W
L L H L - W
H L L L - W
H L H H - L,W
H H L H - W
L L L H - L,W
L L L L - L,L,W
L H H L - W
L L H L - W
L L L H - W
H L H H - L,W
H L H L - L,W
H H L L - W
L L L L - L,W
L L H L - L,L,L,W
H L H L - L,W
H H H H - L,L,W
H L H L - W
L L L H - L,L,L,W
H L H H - W
L L L L - W
L H L H - L,L,L,W
L H H H - W
H L H H - L,L,L,W
H H H H - L,W
H L L H - W
H H L H - W
L H L H - L,L,W
L H L L - L,W
L L L L - W
H L H L - L,L,L,W
H L H H - L,W
H H H L - W
H L L H - W
H H H L - W
L H L L - L,L,W
L H L H - L,W
L H H H - W
L L H L - W
L L L H - W
H H L H - L,L,L,L
H L L H - L,W (6th step)
L L L H - L,L,W
H L L L - W
L H H H - W
H L H L - W
H L H H - L,L,W
L H L H - L,L,L,L*
L H L L - L,L,L,L*
H H H H - L,W (10th step)
H H L H - L,W
H H H L - W
L L H H - L,L,L,W
L L H H - L,L,W
H L L L - L,W
H H L L - L,L,L,L
L L H L - L,W (6th step)
H L L H - W
H L H L - L,W
H H L H - W
L H H H - L,L,W
H H L H - W
H H H L - L,W
H L H L - W
H L L H - W
L H H H - L,L,W
L L H L - L,W
L L H H - W
L H H H - W
H L H L - L,W
H L H L - L,L,W
L L L L - L,W
H H H H - W
L H L H - W
L L H H - L,L,W
L H L L - W
H L L H - L,W
L H H H - W
H L H L - W
H L L H - L,L,L,W
L H L H - L,L,L,L
H L L H - W (5th step)
L L H L - W
H L H L - W
H L L H - L,W
L L H L - L,W
L H L H - L,L,W
H L L H - L,W
L L L L - W
H H H L - W
H L L H - L,W
L H L L - L,W
The variable chains of same results in each column actually help this approach.
There are MANY wins (224) coming on the 1st to 4th step of the progression. In other words a win obtained on each of 224 lines! (896 of the 992 in-play numbers)
There were 5 wins at the 5th step; 3 wins at the 6th step; 1 win at the 7th step; 1 win at the 10th step and 1 win gained at the 11th step.
Maybe with some rules and a different progression (e.g. GLC's) and maybe a stop rule this could be good and pay dividends?
There may be also some merit in playing only after LL or LW for instance as Zer0Blue often suggests - although you can miss out on additional first column wins doing that...
Why not try it and play only after L,L,L,L or L,L,L,W?
Please share your thoughts and ideas with examples and any results obtained below.
Thank you.
Atlantis.
Zer0Blue wrote:
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That is it dear Atlantis. I know we have talked about this some weeks ago... It is very cool to apply it here also.
as for LW strategy it seems essential.
Colbster wrote:
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Just ran with a grand marti (1,3,7,15,31,63). Only lost at 4th level 1 time - think that might be a great stop point with 26 units at risk. I went +89 before losing my 26 the first time. Very cool idea. Also, I played continuously without stopping when I had a win in the row of 4.
BuffaloWizard wrote:
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That's a great shout colbster,
I like that progression...and if further testing proves that 4 levels are strong enough, then the odd 26 unit loss would be surmountable with this more aggressive progression.
Hello atlantis,
Sorry, what do you mean with 7th/10th/11th step?
You are not using a six step progression?
How are you betting?
just tested this on 10000 games = 50008 spins
flat bet continuous- overall balance -438 units
it seems good.
Quote from: amk on Jul 11, 04:48 PM 2011
Sorry, what do you mean with 7th/10th/11th step?
You are not using a six step progression?
How are you betting?
Well remember this is still fairly new and not finalised (that is why in testing section) If betting EXACTLY as I showed in the 1000 spin example you need to have a stop; or a progression to cover the longer losing runs that may occur... (the highest was 10 L's)
Maybe George's (GLC) even money progression can be valuable here:
link:://rouletteforum.cc/money-management/even-chance-progression/ (link:://rouletteforum.cc/money-management/even-chance-progression/)
GLC turned my MV6 loser into a WINNER using that...!?
So maybe GLC can help us here with some input and thoughts?
There is my idea of betting only after LLLW or LLLL which might be valid in curtailing lengthy runs of L's too.
For better progression stability at this moment I am unsure of what is the most economical way forward... :question:
A bit of brainstorming required I suppose.
A.
maybe if we switch bet it will report different results
i will try this
bet the trend.
if last are different I bet different if they are same I bet the same so when I lose I switch. i guess you played the trend until a hit dont ya?
It is a random walk.
what do you think?
Quote from: atlantis on Jul 11, 05:06 PM 2011
Well remember this is still fairly new and not finalised (that is why in testing section) If betting EXACTLY as I showed in the 1000 spin example you need to have a stop; or a progression to cover the longer losing runs that may occur... (the highest was 10 L's)
Maybe George's (GLC) even money progression can be valuable here:
link:://rouletteforum.cc/money-management/even-chance-progression/ (link:://rouletteforum.cc/money-management/even-chance-progression/)
GLC turned my MV6 loser into a WINNER using that...!?
So maybe GLC can help us here with some input and thoughts?
There is my idea of betting only after LLLW or LLLL which might be valid in curtailing lengthy runs of L's too.
For better progression stability at this moment I am unsure of what is the most economical way forward... :question:
A bit of brainstorming required I suppose.
A.
A,
I will take a closer look. There are a couple of stretches where it looks like you have too many losses close together without a Win streak long enough to wrap a win up. It may cause us to lose the progression. I'll look close later and play those areas out and see how it holds up.
I think the progression based on a 5 step parlay can handle this well enough since it starts with betting 1 unit as a starter bet for the 1st 31 bets.
The one I listed that started with 1-2-4-8 may not hold up. We'll see.
GLC
The problem with this system is that there aren't enough 4 or 5 wins in a row. I don't think the let it ride progression will work so well here. :'( :sad2:
On the MV6 I think yes. Much better at getting long streaks which is what these let-it-ride bets take. :thumbsup:
GLC
Quote from: ZeroBlue on Jul 11, 07:33 PM 2011
maybe if we switch bet it will report different results
i will try this
bet the trend.
if last are different I bet different if they are same I bet the same so when I lose I switch. I guess you played the trend until a hit don't ya?
It is a random walk.
what do you think?
Hi Zer0Blue,
Sounds OK - but not sure if switching, rather than staying with trend after a loss will make any appreciable difference or change matters...
I recently tried it FLATBETTING after LL and using O/E matrix of three... Betting max of twice per line. (no bet on first column) + stop at a winner - betting only for chop or streak to continue depending on last vertical pair results in col2 and col3.
OEE
EEO
OOO LL*
EEO WW +1 +1
EEE LL
OOO LW +0 +1
OOO LL*
OOO WW +1 +2
OOE WL
EEO LW
EEE LW
EEE WL
EOE LW
EOE LW
OEE LW
EOE WW
EEO WL
OEE LW
EEE WL
OOE LW
OEE WW
OOE WW
EEE WW
OEO LL*
OEO WL +1 +3
+3 IN 75 SPINS.
A.
PS. Obviously the Zero is an enemy to this - so maybe try on nozero roulette?
A.
Quote from: GLC on Jul 11, 10:38 PM 2011
The problem with this system is that there aren't enough 4 or 5 wins in a row. I don't think the let it ride progression will work so well here. :'( :sad2:
On the MV6 I think yes. Much better at getting long streaks which is what these let-it-ride bets take. :thumbsup:
GLC
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George,
Have you tried using the Tour de Force concept after each vertical double?!
vundarosa
Atlantis,
After my message to you last evening about running with the Grand Marti, I did up a group of spins from actuals for demonstration purposes. On any 4-spin EC bet, there is a 1/16 chance that we will bust out. In my tests, on all 3 EC groups, my results were shockingly consistent in demonstrating exactly these odds. I busted out twice on each of the 3 ECs in the first 48 spins, with another bust on the B/R in the next set of 4 spins. There is very possibly an argument for playing X number of spins after a virtual loss in a wwLL application, but that will need more testing.
As an aside, this bet ends up being nothing other than penultimate bet. If we have X then O, we bet X. If we have X then X, we bet X. If we have O then O, we bet O. Just one-before-last.
Quote from: Colbster on Jul 12, 10:20 AM 2011
As an aside, this bet ends up being nothing other than penultimate bet. If we have X then O, we bet X. If we have X then X, we bet X. If we have O then O, we bet O. Just one-before-last.
Hi Colbster,
Well that is true - except to say of course that the results are not being recorded linear fashion; they are noted in a MATRIX grid - so it's not quite the same...
A.
You are right - I didn't mean it at a criticism in the slightest. I just made the observation because it is much easier to code or track when you ignore patterns and play the spin result 2 boxes up in a tracking matrix. Less room for error as well.
Quote from: vundarosa on Jul 12, 08:13 AM 2011
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George,
Have you tried using the Tour de Force concept after each vertical double?!
vundarosa
Sorry V,
I haven't had time to look into this system much. I have a lot of irons in the fire in my life at this time. I do know that the Tour de Force progression is hard to defeat. The key thing is that we can't go too long without a 5-in-a-row win series. As long as we get one every 200 or so bets, we can stay ahead. It can get to be somewhat of a grind. But if we win in the end, who cares?
I know you're busy also, but maybe you could find time to see how it performs. All we need is to determine how long before we get 5-in-a-row after reaching our 16th 1, because after that point we need 5-in-a-row to recover fully. That's not taking into consideration the option of dropping back down the progression line after a 3 or 4 win.
George
Here again playing a matrix 3 and following vertical pairs of chop or streak as before.
FLATBETTING - but only betting ONCE on the third column and only after "LL" recorded:
OEE
EEO
OOO WLL
EEO WWW
EEE LLL -1 -1
OOO LLW +1 +0
OOO LLL -1 -1
OOO WWW
OOE WWL
EEO LLW +1 +0
EEE LLW +1 +1
EEE WWL
EOE WLW
EOE WLW
OEE LLW +1 +2
EOE WWW
EEO LWL
OEE LLW +1 +3
EEE WWL
OOE WLW
OEE LWW
OOE WWW
EEE LWW
OEO WLL
OEO LWL
A.
that's what I was talking about
:thumbsup:
FLATBETTING the side of the EC that predominates the most in the last vertical TRIO of a matrix
grid column but only after an "L" appears in that line... Stop at a winner.
Playing on nozero roulette.
[reveal]
OEO
OEE
OOE
OOO WLL -1
EOO LW +0
EOE LW +1
EEO WLW +1
OOE LW +2
EEO WLL +1
EOO WLW +2
OOE LW +3
OEO LLW +3
EOE LW +4
OEE WLW +5
OOO WLL +4
OOO WWL
OEE WLL +3
EEE LLL +1
OEO WWL
EOE LLW +1
OOE LLW +1
EOO LW +2
OEO LLL +0
EOE LW +1
OEE LLL -1
OOE WLW +0
EOO LW +1
OOO WW
OEO WLW +2
OOO WW
EEE LLL +0
OEE WW
OOO WLL -1
OEE WW
OEE WW
OEO WW
OEE WW
EEO LW +0
OOE WLW -1
EEO LW +0
OOO LW +1
EOO LW +2
OOO LW +3
OOE WW
OEE WLL +2
EOE LW +3
EEO LLL +1
OOE LLW +1
EEO WLL +0
EOE WLL -1
EOO WW
OOO LW +0
EOO WW
OOO LW +1
[/reveal]
Quit after winning a few units.
A.
PS. OOPS! corrected mistake in above table
Again - FLATBETTING the side of the EC that predominates the most in the last vertical TRIO of a matrix grid column but only after an "L" appears in that line... Stop at a winner on each line.
Playing on nozero roulette.
This time using High/Low EC.
[reveal]
LLH
LLH
LLL - 1ST 3 LINES
LLL - WWL
LHL WLW +1
LHL WLW +2
LLL WLW +3
HLL LLW +3
HHH LLL +1
HHH WLL +0
HHL WWL
HLH WLW +1
LLH LLW +1
LLL LW +2
HHH LLW +2
HLL LW +3
LHH LLL +1
LLH LLW +1
LHH WLW +2
HLH LLW +2
HHL LLL +0
LHL LW +1
LLL LLW +1
HHL LW +2
LLH WLL +1
LLL WWW
HHH LLL -1
LLL WWL
LLH WWW
HHH LLW -1
HLH LW +0
HLH WWW
LLL LW +1
HLH WWW
HLL WWL
LHL LLW +1
HLH WWL
LLL LW +2
HLL LW +3
HLL WWW
LHH LLL +1
LHL LLW +1
HHL LW +2
HHL LW +3
LHL LW +4
[/reveal]
+4
A.
Here is my previous 1000 spin continuous test (results from random.org)
lw registry results are recorded as if betting SAME as last vertical line result:
Using matrix 4 for H/L
[reveal]
H L L L - first line result
L L L H - lwwl
L H H L - wlll
H H L L - lwlw
H L L H - wlwl
L H L L - llwl
L L H L - wllw
L L H H -:l
L L L L -wwll
L L L L -:w
L H H L - wlwl
L L H H - wlwl
H L L H - lwlw
L L H L - lwll
H H L H - llll
H L L H - wllw
H L H H - wwlw
L H H H - llww
L H H L - :l
L L L L - wllw
H L L L - l:
L H L H - llwl
L L L H - wlww
L H L L - wlwl
H H L H - lwwl
L H L L - lwwl
L L H H - wlll
L H L H - wllw
H L H L - llll
H L H H - :l
L L L L - lwll
L H H L - wllw
L L L H - wlll
H L L L - lwwl
H L L L - :w
H H L L - wlww
L H H L - lwlw
L L H L - wlww
H L L L - lwlw
L H H H - llll
L H L H - wwlw
H L H L - llll
L H H L - llwl
L L L H - wlll
H H L H - llww
L L L H - llww
L H H H - wllw
L H H H - :w
H H L H - lwlw
H H L L - :l
H H H L - wwlw
L H H L - l:
H L L L - lllw
H L H L - wwlw
H H L L - wllw
L L H L - lllw
L L H L - :w
L L H H - :l
H H H H - llww
L H L H - lwlw
L H H H - wwlw
L L L L - wlll
H H H L - lllw
L L H H - llwl
L H L L - wlll
H H H L - lwlw
L H H L - l:
H L H H - llwl
H L H H - :w
H H L L - wlll
H L L L - wlww
H L H H - wwll
H L L L - wwll
L H H H - llll
H H L L - lwll
H H H H - wwll
H L L H - wllw
L L L L - lwwl
H L H L - lwlw
L L L H - lwll
H L L L - lwwl
L L L L - l:
L H H H - wlll
L H L H - wwlw
H H H L - lwll
H H L L - wwll
H L H L - wllw
L H L H - llll
L H H L - wwll
L H L H - wwll
L L L L - wlwl
L L L L - :w
H L L H - lwwl
L L L H - l:
L H L H - wlww
L H L L - :l
L L H H - wlll
H L L L - lwll
L H L L - llww
L L H L - wllw
L H L L - wllw
H L H L - lllw
L L L L - lwlw
L H H H - wlll
H H H H - l:
L L L L - llll
L L H H - wwll
H H L H - lllw
H L L H - wlww
H H H L - wlll
L L H L - llwl
L H H L - wlww
L H L L - wwlw
L H H L - wwlw
L L H H - wlwl
H H H L - llwl
H L L L - wllw
H L H L - wwlw
H L H L - :w
H H L L - wllw
H L L H - wlwl
L L L L - lwwl
H L H L - lwlw
L H H L - llww
H L L L - lllw
L H H L - lllw
L H L H - wwll
H L H H - lllw
H L L H - wwlw
L L L L - lwwl
L L L L - :w
H H L H - llwl
L L H H - lllw
L H H L - wlwl
L L L H - wlll
H L H L - lwll
H H H L - wlww
L H L H - lwll
L L H L - wlll
H L H H - lwwl
L H L H - lllw
L H L H - :w
L H H H - wwlw
H L H H - llww
L L H L - llwl
L L H H - :l
H H L H - lllw
H H H L - wwll
L H H H - lwwl
L L L L - wlll
L H H H - wlll
L L L L - wlll
L H L H - wlwl
H L H H - lllw
H L H H - :w
L L L L - lwll
L L H L - wwlw
L H L L - wllw
H H H H - lwll
L L H L - llwl
H L L L - lwlw
H L H H - wwll
H H L H - wllw
L L L H - llww
L L L L - :l
L H H L - wllw
L L H L - wlww
L L L H - wwll
H L H H - lwlw
H L H L - :l
H H L L - wllw
L L L L - llww
L L H L - wwlw
H L H L - l:
H H H H - wlwl
H L H L - wlwl
L L L H - lwll
H L H H - lwlw
L L L L - lwll
L H L H - wlwl
L H H H - wwlw
H L H H - llww
H H H H - wlww
H L L H - wllw
H H L H - wlww
L H L H - l:
L H L L - :l
L L L L - wlww
H L H L - lwlw
H L H H - :l
H H H L - wlwl
H L L H - wlll
H H H L - wlll
L H L L - lwlw
L H L H - :l
L H H H - wwlw
L L H L - wlwl
L L L H - wwll
H H L H - llww
H L L H - wlww
L L L H - l:
H L L L - lwwl
L H H H - llll
H L H L - llwl
H L H H - :l
L H L H - lllw
L H L L - :l
H H H H - lwll
H H L H - wwlw
H H H L - wwll
L L H H - llwl
L L H H - :w
H L L L - lwll
H H L L - wlww
L L H L - lllw
H L L H - lwll
H L H L - wwll
H H L H - wlll
L H H H - lwlw
H H L H - lwlw
H H H L - wwll
H L H L - wlww
H L L H - wwll
L H H H - lllw
L L H L - wlwl
L L H H - :l
L H H H - wlww
H L H L - llwl
H L H L - llww
L L L L - lwlw
H H H H - llll
L H L H - lwlw
L L H H - wllw
L H L L - wlll
H L L H - llwl
L H H H - lllw
H L H L - llwl
H L L H - wwll
L H L H - llww
H L L H - llww
L L H L - lwll
H L H L - l:
H L L H - wwll
L L H L - lwll
L H L H - wlll
H L L H - llww
L L L L - lwwl
H H H L - lllw
H L L H - wlll
L H L L - llwl
[/reveal]
1000 spins.
Longest losing string of L's = 6
Viewing the results, can we find a good trigger and progression so as to gain advantage? :)
Atlantis.
Second test 1000 spins.
As before: lw registry results are recorded as if betting SAME as last vertical line result:
Using matrix 4 for H/L
[reveal]
L H H H first line
L L L L wlll
H L H L lwlw
L L H H lwwl
L H H L wlwl
L H L H wwll
H L L H llww
L L H H lwlw
H L H H l:
L L H L lwwl
H L L L lwlw
L H H H llll
H L H H llww
L L L H lwlw
H L H L lwll
L L H L l:
L H H H wlwl
H L L L llll
H H H H wlll
L L L L llll
L H H H wlll
H L H H llww
H L H L :l
L L H L l:
L L L H wwll
L H H H wllw
L H H L :l
H L H H llwl
H H H H wlww
L L L H lllw
L L L L :l
L L H L wwlw
H L L H lwll
L H H H lllw
H H H H l:
L H H H l:
H H L L lwll
L L L H llwl
H H H H lllw
H L H H wlww
H L H H :w
L L H L lwwl
H L L H lwll
L H L L llwl
L L H H wlll
H H H H llww
H L H H wlww
H H H H wlww
L H H H l:
H H H H l:
H L L L wlll
H L L H :l
H L H H wwlw
H H H L wlwl
L H H L l:
H H L H lwll
L L H L llll
L L L H wwll
H L H H lwlw
L H L H lllw
H H L H l:
H H H H wwlw
L H H L lwwl
L L H H wlwl
L H L H wllw
H L L L llwl
L L L H lwwl
L L H L wwll
L H H H wlwl
H L L H lllw
L L H L lwll
H L H L l:
H H L L wllw
H H H H wwll
H L L L wlll
L L L L l:
H H L H llwl
H H L H :w
H H L L :l
L H H L lwlw
H H H L l:
H H L L wwlw
H H L L :w
H L L H wlwl
L H L H llww
H L L H llww
L L L L lwwl
L H L L wlww
L H L L :w
L H L L :w
H L L H llwl
H L H H wwlw
L L L H lwlw
L H L H wlww
H L H H lllw
H H L L wlll
H H L L :w
H H H L wwlw
H L L H wlll
L L H L lwll
L H H L wlww
L L H H wlwl
H L H H l:
L L L H lwlw
H L L L lwwl
L H H L lllw
H L H L llww
H H L L wllw
L H H H lwll
H H L L lwll
H H L H :l
L L H L llll
L L L H wwll
H H H H lllw
L H H L lwwl
L H L H wwll
H H H H lwlw
L L L H lllw
L L H L wwll
H H H L llww
L H L L lwlw
H L H L lllw
L L H L l:
H L L L lwlw
H L H L wwlw
H H L L wllw
H L H H wlll
L L L H lwlw
H H H L llll
H H H L :w
L L L L lllw
L H L L wlww
L H L L :w
L L L L wlww
H L H L lwlw
L L L H lwll
H L H L lwll
L L H L l:
L L H H :l
H H L L llll
H H H H wwll
H H H L :l
H L H H wlwl
H L L H wwlw
H H H H wllw
L L H L llwl
L H H L wlww
L H H H :l
H H L H lwlw
L H H H lwlw
H L H H llww
L H H L llwl
L L H L wlww
L L H L :w
L H L H wlll
H H H H lwlw
L H H L lwwl
L H H L :w
H L H L llww
L H L H llll
L H H L wwll
L L L L wllw
H L L H lwwl
H H H H wllw
L L L L llll
H H L L llww
L H L L l:
H L L L llww
H H H L wllw
L H H H lwwl
L L L L wlll
H L L L l:
H H H L wllw
L L H H llwl
H H H H llww
L L H H llww
L L H H :w
L H H H wlww
L H L H wwlw
L H H H wwlw
H L L L llll
L L L L l:
L L H L wwlw
L L H H :l
L H H L wlwl
L H L H wwll
L H H L wwll
L H H H :l
L L H L wlwl
H H L L lllw
L L L L llww
L L L H :l
L L L H :w
L L L H :w
H H L L llwl
H H H L wwlw
H H L H wwll
L H H H lwlw
L H H H :w
H H L H lwlw
H H L L :l
L L H H llll
L L L H wwlw
H L L H l:
L L L L lwwl
L L H L wwlw
H L L L lwlw
H L H L wwlw
H H L L wllw
H L H L wllw
L L L H lwll
L H H L wlll
H L H H llwl
L H H H llww
L L H H wlww
L H L H wllw
H L L L llwl
H H H L wllw
H H L H wwll
H L H L wlll
L L H H lwwl
H H L H lllw
H L H L wlll
H L L L wwlw
H H L H wlwl
L H H H lwlw
L H H H :w
H L L H lllw
H L H L wwll
H L H H :l
L L L L lwll
H L L L l:
L H H H llll
L L L H wllw
L L H L wwll
L H L H wlll
H H L L lwwl
H L H L wllw
L L H H lwwl
L L L H wwlw
L H H H wllw
H L L H lllw
L H L H llww
L L L L wlwl
H L L L l:
H H L L wlww
L L H H llll
H L H H l:
L H H L llwl
L L H H wlwl
[/reveal]
1000 spins.
Longest string of L's = 7
Atlantis.
Came up with this after playing around with RouletteExplorer's EC system.
I think it safer and less riskier without rising progression.
Track the EC results of the last 3 numbers in MATRIX 3 fashion.
R/B E/O H/L
Then FLATBET for each spin the side of the EC which predominates out of the LAST 3 VERTICAL results in each column - until total 100 spins recorded.
The bet never changes: 1-1-1 each spin after the initial 3 recorded numbers.
Remember take the side of the EC which dominates out of the last 3 vertical results (check after each spin)
[reveal]
BEH
BEL
BEL first 3 numbers so bet BEL as they are the dominants
REH -1
REL +0
BOH -3
ROH -2
ROL -1
ROL +0
BOL +1
REH +0
BEL -1
BEL +2
BEH +3
BEH +4
ROH +3
REL +2
BEH +3
ROL +2
BOL +1
BEH +0
ROH -1
BOH +2
BEH +3
ROL +2
BOL +3
REH +0
ROL +3
BEL +2
BOL +1
ROH +0
REH -3
ROL -2
ROL -1
ROL +2
ROL +5
REL +6
REH +5
BOH +2
BEL +3
REL +2
BOH +1
REH +2
REH +5
REL +6
ROL +5
ROL +6
BEH +3
BOH +2
ROH +3
ROH +4
BOL +3
BEH +2
ROH +3
BEL +2
BOH +3
ROH +4
ROH +5
ROH +8
ROH +11
BEL +10
BEH +9
ROL +6
BEL +9
ROH +6
BEL +5
REL +6
BEL +7
BEH +8
REL +9
BEH +10
BEH +13
BOL +12
ROL +9
ROL +10
BEH +7
ROH +8
ROH +11
ROL +12
BOH +13
ROL +14
ROH +15
REL +14
REL +15
BEH +14
BEL +15
BOH +14
ROH +13
BOL +14
REL +11
BEL +10
BEL +13
BEL +16
BOL +17
BEL +20
REL +21
BOH +20
REL +21
REH +22
REL +23
[/reveal]
+23u profit.
Max drawdown = 7
Lowest bankroll 97 out of 100units
Of course you can cease and bail out whenever a few units in +
Play on nozero or single zero with le partage (half-stake returns)
Luck or ?
If you like it - please help in testing and post a session result. Thanks.
:)
A.
Hm.. isnt this almost same thing as Flatino-s 7x7 matrix system realy? Only he recorded all spins straight? Beside that evrything is perfectly same. Already seen.
Regards
Drazen
Quote from: drazen_cro on Aug 17, 02:49 PM 2011
Hm.. isnt this almost same thing as F_LAT_INO-s 7x7 matrix system realy? Only he recorded all spins straight? Beside that evrything is perfectly same. Already seen.
Not really. Anyway, take it or leave it - up to you. :-\
A.
As before, tracking the EC results of the last 3 numbers in MATRIX 3 fashion.
R/B E/O H/L
The 3 selections to bet for each spin is the side of the EC which predominates out of the LAST 3
VERTICAL results in each column - until total 100 spins recorded.
This time the bet on any losing side rises by a mild progression of 0.5u each spin after the initial 3 recorded numbers.
A winning bet remains at the same level - However any time a level or new high in bankroll is reached all bets drop to starting stake of 1-1-1
I use same results as previously so you can see how the prog. affects the end result. (numbers are from nozero session)
[reveal]
BEH
BEL
BEL first 3 numbers so bet BEL
REH LWL -1 NOW BET BEL @1, 1.5, 1
REL LWW +0.5 NOW BET REL @1,1,1
BOH LLL -2.5 NOW BET REH @1.5,1.5,1.5
ROH WLW -1 NOW BET ROH @1.5, 2, 1.5
ROL WWL +1 NOW BET ROH @1, 1, 1
ROL WWL +2 NOW BET ROL @1, 1, 1
BOL LWW +3 NOW BET ROL @1, 1, 1
REH WLL +2 NOW BET ROL @1,1.5,1.5
BEL LLW +1 NOW BET BEL @1.5, 2, 1.5
BEL WWW +6 NOW BET BEL @1, 1, 1
BEH WWL +7 NOW BET BEL@1, 1, 1
BEH WWL +8 NOW BET BEH@1, 1, 1
ROH LLW +7 NOW BET BEH@1.5, 1.5, 1
REL LWL +6 NOW BET REH@2, 1.5, 1.5
BEH LWW +7 NOW BET REH@2.5, 1.5, 1.5
ROL WLL +6.5 NOW BET REH@2.5, 2, 2
BOL LLL +0 NOW BET BOL@3, 2.5, 2.5
BEH WLL -2 NOW BET BOL@3, 3, 3
ROH LWL -5 NOW BET BOH@3.5, 3, 3.5
BOH WWW +5 NOW BET BOH@3.5, 3, 3.5
BEH WLW +12 NOW BET BOH@1, 1, 1
ROL LWL +11 NOW BET BOH@1.5, 1, 1.5
BOL WWL +12 NOW BET BOL@1, 1, 1
REH LLL +9 NOW BET BOL@1.5, 1.5, 1.5
ROL LWW +10.5 NOW BET ROL@1.5, 1.5, 1.5
BEL LLW +9 NOW BET ROL@2, 2, 1.5
BOL LWW +10.5 NOW BET REL@2.5, 2, 1.5
ROH WLL +9 NOW BET BOL@2.5, 2.5, 2
REH LLL +2 NOW BET BOL@3, 3, 2.5
ROL LWW +4.5 NOW BET ROH@3.5, 3, 2.5
ROL WWL +9.5 NOW BET ROH@3.5, 3, 3
ROL WWL +14 NOW BET ROL@1, 1, 1
ROL WWW +17 NOW BET ROL@1, 1, 1
REL WLW +18 NOW BET ROL@1, 1, 1
REH WLL +17 NOW BET ROL@1, 1.5, 1.5
BOH LWL +16 NOW BET REL@1.5, 1.5, 2
BEL LWW +18 NOW BET REH@1, 1, 1
REL WWL +19 NOW BET BEH@1, 1, 1
BOH WLW +20 NOW BET BEL@1, 1, 1
REH LWL +19 NOW BET BEL@1.5, 1, 1.5
REH LWL +17 NOW BET REH@2, 1, 2
REL WWL +18 NOW BET REH@2, 1, 2.5
ROL WLW +21.5 NOW BET REL@1, 1, 1
ROL WLW +22.5 NOW BET ROL@1, 1, 1
BEH LLL +19.5 NOW BET ROL@1.5, 1.5, 1.5
BOH LWL +18 NOW BET BOH@2, 1.5, 2
ROH LWW +19.5 NOW BET BOH@2.5, 1.5, 2
ROH LWW +20.5 NOW BET ROH@3, 1.5, 2
BOL LWL +17 NOW BET ROH@3.5, 1.5, 2.5
BEH LLW +13 NOW BET BOH@4, 2, 2.5
ROH LWW +13.5 NOW BET BOH@4.5, 2, 2.5
BEL WLL +13.5 NOW BET BEH@4.5, 2.5, 3
BOH WLW +18.5 NOW BET BOH@4.5, 3, 3
ROH LWW +20 NOW BET BOH@5, 3, 3
ROH LWW +21 NOW BET ROH@5.5, 3, 3
ROH WWW +32.5 NOW BET ROH@1, 1, 1
ROH WWW +35.5 NOW BET ROH@1, 1, 1
BEL LLL +32.5 NOW BET ROH@1.5, 1.5, 1.5
BEH LLW +31 NOW BET BEH@2, 2, 1.5
ROL LLL +25.5 NOW BET BEL@2.5 ,2.5, 2
BEL WWW +32.5 NOW BET BEL@2.5, 2.5, 2
ROH LLL +25.5 NOW BET ROL@3, 3, 2.5
BEL LLW +22 NOW BET BEL@3.5, 3.5, 2.5
REL LWW +24.5 NOW BET REL@4, 3.5, 2.5
BEL LWW +26.5 NOW BET BEL@4.5, 3.5, 2.5
BEH WWL +32 NOW BET BEL@4.5, 3.5, 3
REL LWW +34 NOW BET BEL@5, 3.5, 3
BEH WWL +39.5 NOW BET REH@1, 1, 1
BEH LWW +40.5 NOW BET BEH@1, 1, 1
BOL WLL +39.5 NOW BET BEH@1, 1.5, 1.5
ROL LLL +35.5 NOW BET BOL@1.5, 2, 2
ROL LWW +38 NOW BET ROL@2, 2, 2
BEH LLL +32 NOW BET ROL@2.5, 2.5, 2.5
ROH WWL +34.5 NOW BET ROH@2.5, 2.5, 3
ROH WWW +42.5 NOW BET ROH@1, 1, 1
ROL WWL +43.5 NOW BET ROH@1, 1, 1
BOH LWW +44.5 NOW BET ROH@1, 1, 1
ROL WWL +45.5 NOW BET ROL@1, 1, 1
ROH WWL +46.5 NOW BET ROH@1, 1, 1
REL WLL +45.5 NOW BET ROL@1, 1.5, 1.5
REL WLW +46.5 NOW BET REL@1, 1, 1
BEH LWL +45.5 NOW BET REL@1.5, 1, 1.5
BEL LWW +46.5 NOW BET BEL@1, 1, 1
BOH WLL +45.5 NOW BET BEH@1, 1.5, 1.5
ROH LLW +44.5 NOW BET BOH@1.5, 2, 1.5
BOL WWL +46 NOW BET BOH@1.5, 2, 2
REL LLL +40.5 NOW BET ROL@2, 2.5, 2.5
BEL LLW +38.5 NOW BET BEL@2.5, 3, 2.5
BEL WWW +46.5 NOW BET BEL@1, 1, 1
BEL WWW +49.5 NOW BET BEL@1, 1, 1
BOL WLW +50.5 NOW BET BEL@1, 1, 1
BEL WWW +53.5 NOW BET BEL@1, 1, 1
REL LWW +54.5 NOW BET BEL@1, 1, 1
BOH WLL +53.5 NOW BET BEL@1, 1.5, 1.5
REL LWW +55.5 NOW BET REL@1, 1, 1
REH WWL +56.5 NOW BET REH@1, 1, 1
REL WWL +57.5 NOW BET REL@1, 1, 1
[/reveal]
+57.5u profit.
A.
Betting the side of the EC that predominates the most in the last vertical TRIO of a matrix
grid column but only after an "L" appears in that line. (no bet on the first column of the next line if an "L" occurs in third column of current line!)
Stop at a winner OR loser (max of one bet only per line)
Playing on nozero roulette.
Using Pluscoup progression. Reduce to 1u when AHEAD.
[reveal]
OEO
OEE
OOE
OOO WLL -1 L
EOO LWL +0 W INC TO 2
EOE LWL +2* W DEC TO 1
EEO WLW +3* W
OOE LWL +4* W
EEO WLL +3 L
EOO WLW +4* W INC TO 2
OOE LWL +6* W DEC TO 1
OEO LLW +5 L
EOE LWL +6 W INC TO 2
OEE WLW +8* W DEC TO 1
OOO WLL +7 L
OOO WWL
OEE WLL +6 L
EEE LLL +5 L
OEO WWL
EOE LLW +4 W INC TO 2
OOE LLW +2 L
EOO LWL +4 W INC TO 3
OEO LLL +1 L
EOE LWL +4 W INC TO 4
OEE LLL +0 L
OOE WLW +4 W INC TO 5
EOO LWL +9* W DEC TO 1
OOO WWL
OEO WLW +10* W
OOO WWW
EEE LLL +9 L
OEE WWL
OOO WLL +8 L
OEE WWW
OEE WWW
OEO WWL
OEE WWW
EEO LWL +9 W INC TO 2
OOE WLW +11* W DEC TO 1
EEO LWL +12* W
OOO LWW +13* W
EOO LWW +14* W
OOO LWW +15* W
OOE WWL
OEE WLL +14 L
EOE LWW +15 W INC TO 2
EEO LLL +13 L
OOE LLW +11 L
EEO WLL +9 L
EOE WLL +7 L
EOO WWL
OOO LWW +9 W INC TO 3
EOO WWW
OOO LWW +12 DECIDED TO STOP HERE
[/reveal]
A.
wise hand brake maneuver there! :P
Same O/E results as before:
Betting the side of the EC that predominates the most in the last vertical TRIO of a matrix grid column but only after an "L" appears in that line. (no bet on the first column of the next line if an "L" occurs in third column of current line!)
Stop at a winner OR loser (max of one bet only per line)
Playing on nozero roulette.
This time instead of pluscoup:
Up 0.5 on a loss; down 0.5 on a win
Reduce to starting stake of 1u if level or ahead of highest bank
[reveal]
OEO
OEE
OOE
OOO WLL -1 L inc to 1.5
EOO LWL +0.5 W dec to 1
EOE LWL +1.5 W
EEO WLW +2.5 W
OOE LWL +3.5 W
EEO WLL +2.5 L inc to 1.5
EOO WLW +4 W dec to 1
OOE LWL +5 W
OEO LLW +4 L inc to 1.5
EOE LWL +5.5 W dec to 1
OEE WLW +6.5 W
OOO WLL +5.5 L inc to 1.5
OOO WWL
OEE WLL +4 L inc to 2
EEE LLL +2 L inc to 2.5
OEO WWL
EOE LLW +4.5 W dec to 2
OOE LLW +2.5 L inc to 2.5
EOO LWL +5 W dec to 2
OEO LLL +3 L inc to 2.5
EOE LWL +5.5 W dec to 2
OEE LLL +3.5 L inc to 2.5
OOE WLW +6 W dec to 2
EOO LWL +8 W dec to 1
OOO WWL
OEO WLW +9 W
OOO WWW
EEE LLL +8 L inc to 1.5
OEE WWL
OOO WLL +6.5 L inc to 2
OEE WWW
OEE WWW
OEO WWL
OEE WWW
EEO LWL +8.5 W dec to 1.5
OOE WLW +10 W dec to 1
EEO LWL +11 W
OOO LWW +12 W
EOO LWW +13 W
OOO LWW +14 W
OOE WWL
OEE WLL +13 L inc to 1.5
EOE LWW +14.5 W dec to 1
EEO LLL +13.5 L inc to 1.5
OOE LLW +12 L inc to 2
EEO WLL +10 L inc to 2.5
EOE WLL +7.5 L inc to 3
EOO WWL
OOO LWW +10.5 W dec to 2.5
EOO WWW
OOO LWW +13 W dec to 2
Stopped Playing Here
[/reveal]
A.
This seems better...
Betting the side of the EC that predominates the most in the last vertical TRIO of a matrix
grid column but only after an "WL" result appears. Bet once only! (So stopping at a winner OR a loser)
Playing on nozero roulette.
This time using the 3-bet cyclic progressions:
1-1-2
1-2-2
2-2-2
2-2-3
2-3-3
3-3-3......etc.
If all 3 bets in a cycle are lost move up to next cycle.
If a win occurs in a cycle then restart from the beginning of that cycle line ---
UNLESS level or ahead overall in which case restart from cycle 1 (1-1-2)
[reveal]
Playing Odd/Even EC.
First track 9 spin results.
OEO
OEE
OOE
OOO WLL -1 L1 (1-1-2)
EOO LWL
EOE LWL -2 L1
EEO WLW +0 W1; +1 W1
OOE LWL +2 W1
EEO WLL +1 L1
EOO WLW +2 W1
OOE LWL +3 W1
OEO LLW +2 L1
EOE LWL +3 W1
OEE WLW +4 W1 ; +5 W1
OOO WLL +4 L1
OOO WWL
OEE WLL +4 W1
EEE LLL
OEO WWL
EOE LLW +3 L1
OOE LLW +2 L1
EOO LWL +4 W2
OEO LLL +3 L1
EOE LWL
OEE LLL +2 L1
OOE WLW +4 W2
EOO LWL +5 W1
OOO WWL +6 W1
OEO WLW +7 W1 ; +8 W1
OOO WWW
EEE LLL +7 L1
OEE WWL
OOO WLL +8 W1 ; +7 L1
OEE WWW
OEE WWW
OEO WWL
OEE WWW +8 W1
EEO LWL +9 W1
OOE WLW +10 W1; +11 W1
EEO LWL +12 W1
OOO LWW +11 L1
EOO LWW +12 W1
OOO LWW +13 W1
OOE WWL
OEE WLL +14 W1; +13 L1
EOE LWW
EEO LLL +12 L1
OOE LLW
EEO WLL +10 L2 (up to 1-2-2 series for next bet)
EOE WLL +9 L1
EOO WWL
OOO LWW +7 L2
EOO WWW
OOO LWW +9 W2
OOE WWL
OEO WLW +10 W1 ; +11 W1
EEO LLW +10 L1
OOO WLW +12 W2
OOO WLW +13 W1
EOO LWW +14 W1 (down to 1-1-2)
EEO LLW +13 L1
OOE LWL +14 W1
OEO LLW +13 L1
EEO LWW +14 W1
EOO LLW +13 L1
EEO WWW
EOE WLL +12 L1
OOE LWL
EOO WWL +14 W2
OOO LWL +13 L1
OOO WWW +14 W1
OOE WWL
OEE WLL +15 W1; +14 L1
OEO WLL +13 L1
OEE WWW
EEE LWW +15 W2
OEO WWL
OEO W *STOP* +16 W1
[/reveal]
+16 profit
232 spins
Highest bet=2
Atlantis.
Thank you! Lets try it!
Hi Marivo,
Yes it is slow but seems quite robust...
A session just now +5 in 89 spins and never went above the 1-1-2 series.
BV NoZero (abt. 13 mins)
A.
Just posting correction to earlier session (couple of mistakes)
Profit should be +2 higher...
[reveal]
OEO
OEE
OOE
OOO WLL -1 L1 (1-1-2)
EOO LWL
EOE LWL -2 L1
EEO WLW +0 W2; +1 W1
OOE LWL +2 W1
EEO WLL +3 W1
EOO WLW +4 W1
OOE LWL +5 W1
OEO LLW +4 L1
EOE LWL +4 W1
OEE WLW +5 W1 ; +6 W1
OOO WLL +5 L1
OOO WWL
OEE WLL +6 W1
EEE LLL
OEO WWL
EOE LLW +5 L1
OOE LLW +4 L1
EOO LWL +6 W2
OEO LLL +5 L1
EOE LWL
OEE LLL +4 L1
OOE WLW +6 W2
EOO LWL +7 W1
OOO WWL +8 W1
OEO WLW +9 W1 ; +10 W1
OOO WWW
EEE LLL +9 L1
OEE WWL
OOO WLL +10 W1 ; +9 L1
OEE WWW
OEE WWW
OEO WWL
OEE WWW +10 W1
EEO LWL +11 W1
OOE WLW +12 W1; +13 W1
EEO LWL +14 W1
OOO LWW +13 L1
EOO LWW +14 W1
OOO LWW +15 W1
OOE WWL
OEE WLL +16 W1; +15 L1
EOE LWW
EEO LLL +14 L1
OOE LLW
EEO WLL +12 L2 (up to 1-2-2 series for next bet)
EOE WLL +11 L1
EOO WWL
OOO LWW +9 L2
EOO WWW
OOO LWW +11 W2
OOE WWL
OEO WLW +12 W1 ; +13 W1
EEO LLW +12 L1
OOO WLW +14 W2
OOO WLW +15 W1
EOO LWW +16 W1 (level so down to 1-1-2)
EEO LLW +15 L1
OOE LWL +16 W1
OEO LLW +15 L1
EEO LWW +16 W1
EOO LLW +15 L1
EEO WWW
EOE WLL +14 L1
OOE LWL
EOO WWL +16 W2
OOO LWL +15 L1
OOO WWW +16 W1
OOE WWL
OEE WLL +17 W1; +16 L1
OEO WLL +15 L1
OEE WWW
EEE LWW +17 W2
OEO WWL
OEO W *STOP* +18 W1
[/reveal]
+18 profit
232 spins
Highest bet=2
Atlantis.
+8 profit
176 spins
Highest bet=2 (bet cycle 2)
BVnoZ fun mode
Odd-Even bet
Hi Marivo.
Good. That looks correct to me. Did you play on odd/even?
A.
How do you use the "Reveal" button? I mean how can I post my results in this "Reveal" button?
[reveel]
stuff goes in here
[/reveel]
Except spell correctly - reveal :)
A.
Thanks, I'll try some more later!
Only had time for a short session today:
[reveal]
OEO
EEO
EEE
EOO WLW W1 +1
EEE WWL
EEE WWW W1 +2
OEO LWL W1 +3
OEO LWL L1 +2
OEE WWL W1 +3*
EOE LLL L1 +2
OOO WLL L1 +1
OOO WWL
EEE LLL L2 -1 UP TO 1-2-2
OOO WWW
EEO LLW L1 -2
OEE LWL W2 +0
EOE LLL L1 -1
OOO LLL
EEE LLW
OOO LWL W2 +1
OEO WLW W1 +2
OEO WWW
EEO LWW W1 +3* DOWN TO 1-1-2
EEE LWL W1 +4
EEO WWW
EOO WLW W1 +5 Exited Here :)
[/reveal]
72 SPINS
+5
Highest bet=2
A.
My second session tonight:
+5 in 170 spins (23 mins @ BVNoZero)
Highest series 2-2-2. Highest bet=2
A.
This one seems to be staying pretty steady.
We know there will be a session from hell. The question is can we pull out of it with a reasonable bank and time frame.
If we can win thousands and lose hundreds, we will have a winner. :thumbsup:
Here I have just numbers (361) from season I played 2 days ago on BVnoZ fun mode. As I remember it went up for about 10 units and then down for about 20 units, so it ended negative. It was long season.
Hi Marivo,
Your numbers and results are not too discouraging to me.
I have played them into RXtreme and the session ended -8
I am aiming to win +5 in a session so would have stopped at spin 154 in any case.
The session reaches a high of +10 @ spin 216.
The session ended with a drawdown of 18pts.
Let's say the worst start - I start play at spin 217 (right after the 10 point high) I would only be -8 by the end of the session and so would continue to play on for recovery according to the progression. I'm **assuming** (probably incorrectly) that the downward trend would in time reverse and that a compensatory beneficial swing of good fortune would materialise in my favour to balance things out... But we all know what can happen so I would prolly bail out if it got too dire... Maybe I would stop the session if going 20-30 points into negative - There's always another day to recover in further later sessions?
Ideally I would want to play shorter sessions than that and aim for a modest but attainable +5 target; and right now I still believe this is possible with this system. Also the 5 point target would be flexible.. e.g.: if I had struggled through long, difficult tiresome session to make any kind of profit then maybe perfectly sensible to quit if only 1 or 2 units ahead. At least next time you don't start off from a loss but a just a little higher bank balance.
It obviously must be played on fastspin type roulette and especially with out the zero is good. In real-time it is going to be far too SLOW and I just would not play it! :)
If I can make 5 or 10 units in abt 40-50mins on BVNoZero I am happy with that :)
[reveal]
[table=,]
Spin, Num ,Type ,Bet Unit,Win,Loss,Net,Unit Bal.,Bet Layout
1,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
2,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
3,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
4,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
5,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
6,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
7,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
8,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
9,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
10,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
11,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
12,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
13,15,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,499,1 : Even
14,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
15,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
16,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
17,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
18,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
19,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
20,21,Bet,1,2,-1,1,500,1 : Odd
21,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
22,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
23,4,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,499,1 : Odd
24,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
25,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
26,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
27,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
28,1,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,498,1 : Even
29,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
30,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
31,9,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,496,2 : Even
32,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
33,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
34,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
35,19,Bet,1,2,-1,1,497,1 : Odd
36,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,497,
37,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,497,
38,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,497,
39,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,497,
40,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,497,
41,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,497,
42,22,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,496,1 : Odd
43,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
44,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
45,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
46,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
47,18,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,494,2 : Odd
48,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
49,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
50,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
51,5,Bet,2,4,-2,2,496,2 : Odd
52,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
53,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
54,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
55,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
56,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
57,14,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,495,1 : Odd
58,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
59,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
60,3,Bet,2,4,-2,2,497,2 : Odd
61,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,497,
62,29,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,496,1 : Even
63,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
64,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
65,21,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,494,2 : Even
66,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
67,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
68,16,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,492,2 : Odd
69,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,492,
70,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,492,
71,25,Bet,2,4,-2,2,494,2 : Odd
72,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
73,23,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,492,2 : Even
74,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,492,
75,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,492,
76,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,492,
77,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,492,
78,20,Bet,2,4,-2,2,494,2 : Even
79,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
80,17,Bet,2,4,-2,2,496,2 : Odd
81,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
82,25,Bet,2,4,-2,2,498,2 : Odd
83,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
84,4,Bet,2,4,-2,2,500,2 : Even
85,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
86,25,Bet,1,2,-1,1,501,1 : Odd
87,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
88,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
89,19,Bet,1,2,-1,1,502,1 : Odd
90,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
91,33,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,501,1 : Even
92,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
93,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
94,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
95,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
96,17,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,500,1 : Even
97,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
98,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
99,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
100,14,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,498,2 : Odd
101,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
102,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
103,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
104,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
105,13,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,497,1 : Even
106,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,497,
107,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,497,
108,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,497,
109,18,Bet,2,4,-2,2,499,2 : Even
110,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
111,16,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,498,1 : Odd
112,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
113,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
114,35,Bet,2,4,-2,2,500,2 : Odd
115,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
116,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
117,4,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,499,1 : Odd
118,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
119,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,499,
120,36,Bet,2,4,-2,2,501,2 : Even
121,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
122,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,501,
123,23,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,500,1 : Even
124,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
125,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
126,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
127,4,Bet,2,4,-2,2,502,2 : Even
128,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
129,29,Bet,1,2,-1,1,503,1 : Odd
130,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
131,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
132,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
133,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
134,12,Bet,1,2,-1,1,504,1 : Even
135,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
136,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
137,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
138,14,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,503,1 : Odd
139,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
140,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
141,31,Bet,1,2,-1,1,504,1 : Odd
142,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
143,28,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,503,1 : Odd
144,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
145,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,503,
146,24,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,502,1 : Odd
147,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
148,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
149,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
150,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
151,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
152,34,Bet,2,4,-2,2,504,2 : Even
153,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
154,21,Bet,1,2,-1,1,505,1 : Odd
155,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,505,
156,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,505,
157,27,Bet,1,2,-1,1,506,1 : Odd
158,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
159,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
160,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
161,8,Bet,1,2,-1,1,507,1 : Even
162,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
163,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
164,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
165,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
166,15,Bet,1,2,-1,1,508,1 : Odd
167,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,508,
168,2,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,507,1 : Odd
169,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
170,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
171,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
172,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
173,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
174,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
175,15,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,506,1 : Even
176,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
177,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
178,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
179,27,Bet,2,4,-2,2,508,2 : Odd
180,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,508,
181,31,Bet,1,2,-1,1,509,1 : Odd
182,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509,
183,8,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,508,1 : Odd
184,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,508,
185,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,508,
186,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,508,
187,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,508,
188,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,508,
189,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,508,
190,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,508,
191,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,508,
192,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,508,
193,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,508,
194,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,508,
195,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,508,
196,17,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,507,1 : Even
197,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
198,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
199,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
200,9,Bet,2,4,-2,2,509,2 : Odd
201,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509,
202,28,Bet,1,2,-1,1,510,1 : Even
203,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,510,
204,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,510,
205,3,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,509,1 : Even
206,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509,
207,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509,
208,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509,
209,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509,
210,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509,
211,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509,
212,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509,
213,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509,
214,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509,
215,14,Bet,1,2,-1,1,510,1 : Even
216,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,510, ***highest point
217,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,510,
218,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,510,
219,19,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,509,1 : Even
220,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509,
221,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,509,
222,7,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,508,1 : Even
223,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,508,
224,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,508,
225,2,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,506,2 : Odd
226,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
227,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
228,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
229,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
230,1,Bet,1,2,-1,1,507,1 : Odd
231,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
232,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
233,3,Bet,1,2,-1,1,508,1 : Odd
234,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,508,
235,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,508,
236,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,508,
237,24,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,507,1 : Odd
238,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
239,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
240,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
241,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
242,34,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,505,2 : Odd
243,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,505,
244,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,505,
245,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,505,
246,8,Bet,2,4,-2,2,507,2 : Even
247,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
248,30,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,506,1 : Odd
249,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
250,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
251,33,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,504,2 : Even
252,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
253,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
254,13,Bet,2,4,-2,2,506,2 : Odd
255,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
256,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
257,5,Bet,1,2,-1,1,507,1 : Odd
258,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
259,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,507,
260,24,Bet,1,0,-1,-1,506,1 : Odd
261,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
262,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
263,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
264,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
265,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
266,34,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,504,2 : Odd
267,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
268,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
269,1,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,502,2 : Even
270,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
271,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
272,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
273,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
274,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
275,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
276,14,Bet,2,4,-2,2,504,2 : Even
277,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
278,23,Bet,2,4,-2,2,506,2 : Odd
279,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
280,3,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,504,2 : Even
281,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
282,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
283,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
284,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
285,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
286,9,Bet,2,4,-2,2,506,2 : Odd
287,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
288,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
289,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
290,19,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,504,2 : Even
291,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
292,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
293,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
294,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
295,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
296,2,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,502,2 : Odd
297,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
298,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
299,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
300,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
301,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,502,
302,26,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,500,2 : Odd
303,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
304,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
305,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
306,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
307,3,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,498,2 : Even
308,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
309,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
310,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
311,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,498,
312,8,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,496,2 : Odd
313,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
314,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,496,
315,11,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,493,3 : Even
316,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,493,
317,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,493,
318,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,493,
319,15,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,491,2 : Even
320,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,491,
321,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,491,
322,24,Bet,3,6,-3,3,494,3 : Even
323,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
324,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
325,7,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,492,2 : Even
326,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,492,
327,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,492,
328,4,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,489,3 : Odd
329,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,489,
330,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,489,
331,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,489,
332,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,489,
333,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,489,
334,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,489,
335,5,Bet,3,6,-3,3,492,3 : Odd
336,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,492,
337,18,Bet,2,4,-2,2,494,2 : Even
338,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,494,
339,21,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,492,2 : Even
340,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,492,
341,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,492,
342,27,Bet,3,6,-3,3,495,3 : Odd
343,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
344,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
345,7,Bet,2,4,-2,2,497,2 : Odd
346,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,497,
347,13,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,495,2 : Even
348,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
349,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,495,
350,2,Bet,3,0,-3,-3,492,3 : Odd
-8 in 350 spins
highest bet = 3
highest series 2-2-3
A.
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Quote from: atlantis on Oct 11, 08:09 AM 2011
If I can make 5 or 10 units in abt 40-50mins on BVNoZero I am happy with that
You are absolutely right. By the way, can RX code be shared?
Thanks for exhaustive comment!
Quote from: marivo on Oct 11, 08:52 AM 2011
You are absolutely right. By the way, can RX code be shared?
Thanks for exhaustive comment!
Hi Marivo,
I tested it in RX by hand after importing your numbers file. I haven't actually got a RX-coded system for this that works automatically available to share... Be great if there was one.
My session today at BVNozero:
+5 in 85 spins
Highest Bet = 2
Highest Series = 1-1-2
Session Time = 12mins
A.
My 2 sessions today at BVNoZero:
+5 in 54 spins. Highest Bet=2. Highest Series=1-1-2. Time taken=11mins.
+5 in 133 spins. Highest Bet=2. Highest Series=2-2-2. Time taken=20mins.
Regards,
A.
Here I use the same progressive cycle betting and playing an adaptation of the FLEX system for ECs.
(following the occurrence of singletons and doubletons and betting accordingly)
I played on BVNoZero on Red/Black EC.
A member on another forum wrote:
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I tell you why I like this basic idea.
First of all it use the principle of singles and series and that's a good thing.
This is the values; the math behind it.
Singles has the value of 1 and series has the value of 1, no matter how large series there is.
Well so we have a 1/3 situation of singles and series "trending" and they come in small and large waves.
When waves gets dominant they make the statistical ecart (SD) get stronger and we win.
If its start to hovering at zero point we win.
There is 3 waves, one is when series chop,
RRRBBBRRBBBBRRRBBBB / WWLWWLWLWWWLWWLWWW.
The second one is when singles alternate,
RBRBRBRBRBRBRBRBRBR / LWLWLWLWLWLWLWLWLWLW.
The last wave is when it hits zero point with values of 101010101010
RRRRBRRRRBRRRRRRRRRR / WWWWLWWWWLWWWWWWW.
Well there is more good news, every time we fail to ride the waves we end up with only two loses LL.
Every time one wave ends it does so with two loses LL.
This is a very nice basic strategy and it is based upon the law of series, no patterns, so here we can measurement the waves and using math.
that's why I like Flex and I hope there will come some good out of it when I am done studying it.
To explain how to bet I quote from a member on another roulette site:
Quote
Example:
R
B ...Black is a singleton, since it was followed by R Circle it. The next time B appears, bet that it will be a single B by betting on R.
R
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Example:
R
B
R
R ...RR is a doubleton. Circle it. The next time your get an R, bet for a second R to follow. [***Naturally, B must occur first***]
What if you get RRR or RRRR or more? Well, before you got RRR you had RR, correct? You still bet for your doubleton when the time comes.
Quote
Example:
R
B
R
R ...Here's your doubleton. Circle it.
B
R ...After this, bet for second R.
As soon as you have bet, win or lose, scratch through your circle so you'll know it is dead. This can be a fun method of play and using a progression could be exciting!
Here is my session example and result:
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start @1-1-2
B
B
R
R
R
R
R
B
R L1 -1
R W1 +0
B
R W1 +1
R W1 +2
B
R W1 +3
R W1 +4
R
B
B L1 +3
B
B
B
R
B L1 +2
B W2 +4
B
B
R
R L1 +3
B
B W1 +4
B
R
B L1 +3
B W1 +4
B
R
R L1 +3
B
B W1 +4
B
B
R
R W1 +5
+5 IN 44 SPINS
HIGHEST BET=2
HIGHEST CYCLE=1-1-2
TIME TAKEN=8Mins
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:)
Quick session just now:
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B
R
R
R
B
R W1 +1
R W1 +2
R
B
R W1 +3
B L1 +2
R W1 +3
B W1 +4
B L1 +3
R
B W1 +4
R L1 +3
B W1 +4
R W1 +5
+5 IN 19 SPINS
HIGHEST BET=1
HIGHEST SERIES=1-1-2
TIME TAKEN=5Mins.
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A.
Unlike previous posts in the topic this is not a MATRIX system. It *might* be better than the ideas I have already posted though...
Can be applied to the other ECs also.
Next session:
+5 IN 52 SPINS
HIGHEST BET=2
HIGHEST CYCLE=1-2-2
TIME TAKEN=11Mins.
A.
Next session at BVNozero is a little more difficult but recovery made and profit target is achieved:
+5 IN 170 SPINS
HIGHEST BET=4
HIGHEST CYCLE=3-4-4
TIME TAKEN=38Mins.
A.
A,
I like this using the Flex bet selection method. And I'm starting to like your 3 step levels also.
I've adapted you progression to another bet selection method I came up with. I always have a tendency to go a little more aggressive. I think in the long run it's just a matter of going a little deeper in the hole and a little higher on the wins. If one busts they probably all bust.
I must admit that your progression line can be played at a higher unit value and if you think about it, that negates the reason for a more aggressive line. That's an important thought. May change my whole perspective.
Glad we had this little chat.
Your Friend,
George
Quote from: GLC on Oct 16, 11:38 AM 2011
I like this using the Flex bet selection method. And I'm starting to like your 3 step levels also.
I've adapted you progression to another bet selection method I came up with. I always have a tendency to go a little more aggressive. I think in the long run it's just a matter of going a little deeper in the hole and a little higher on the wins. If one busts they probably all bust.
I must admit that your progression line can be played at a higher unit value and if you think about it, that negates the reason for a more aggressive line. That's an important thought. May change my whole perspective.
Hi George,
Yes it is interesting way to play...
In the flex system doc it says:
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In a normal session FLEX quickly will reach some units of profit. If singles and series of two alternate on the black - or red side over a longer period of time it might become difficult. In this case, you should stop precautionary after three consecutive losses and continue betting only after the next fictitious plus.
Betting against all three double even money chances would therefore be commendable, because profits of the one chance can compensate for possible losses of another bad-running chance. So, if you are not afraid of two or triple bets, test the strategy on all three double even money chances
simultaneously.
You could also play with the Contre D'Alembert progression.
With the Contre d`Alembert the bet size is raised one unit after a win, and lowered one unit after a loss. The first bet is always 1 unit.
I didn't stop after 3 L's in succession until a virtual win in my tests... But maybe this is a good safeguard and advisable. It most surely would have helped especially in my last longer session, I feel.
George, In future tests I will add in the rule to wait until fictive win after 3 LLL's in a row and see...
Atlantis.
Sorry, I cant understand this "waves":
"There is 3 waves, one is when series chop,
RRRBBBRRBBBBRRRBBBB / WWLWWLWLWWWLWWLWWW.
The second one is when singles alternate,
RBRBRBRBRBRBRBRBRBR / LWLWLWLWLWLWLWLWLWLW.
The last wave is when it hits zero point with values of 101010101010
RRRRBRRRRBRRRRRRRRRR / WWWWLWWWWLWWWWWWW."
from the massage: link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=6608.msg70042#msg70042 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=6608.msg70042#msg70042) .
Am I the only one?
Quote from: marivo on Oct 17, 09:12 AM 2011
Sorry, I can't understand this "waves":
"There is 3 waves, one is when series chop,
RRRBBBRRBBBBRRRBBBB / WWLWWLWLWWWLWWLWWW.
The second one is when singles alternate,
RBRBRBRBRBRBRBRBRBR / LWLWLWLWLWLWLWLWLWLW.
The last wave is when it hits zero point with values of 101010101010
RRRRBRRRRBRRRRRRRRRR / WWWWLWWWWLWWWWWWW."
from the massage: link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=6608.msg70042#msg70042 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=6608.msg70042#msg70042) .
Am I the only one?
I'm with you Marivo. I don't understand the last wave.
GLC
Hi GLC, Marivo
I do not understand what is meant by the 3rd wave either !?
Anyhow, here I apply flex system as above to all 3 ECs; flatbetting only. (NB=no bet)
R O L - First number recorded
B E H
R E H - Bet B only
B O L W1; NB; NB +1 Bet R E H
R E H W1; W1; W1 +4 Bet B E H
R O L L1; L1; L1 +1 Bet E H only
B E L NB; W1; L1 +1 Bet R O only
R O L W1; W1; NB +3 Bet R E only
R E H W1; W1; NB +5 Bet O L only
B O H NB; W1; L1 +5 Bet R E only
R O H W1; L1; NB +5 Bet R only
R O H W1; NB; NB +6 Bet none this time
B E L NB; NB; NB +6 Bet R O L
R O L W1; W1; W1 +9 STOP
+9 in 14 spins. ;D
A.
Testing Using RED/BLACK EC
with flatbet 1u progression on both sides...
# DBL C/S +/- BET
=======================
24
10 +0 bet B; R
29 w+1 ; L-1c +0 bet B;B
11 w+1; w+1s +2 NH now bet B;R
34 L-1; w+1c +2 now bet B;R
15 w+1; L-1s +2 now bet R; R
5 w+1; w+1c +4 NH now bet B;R
11 w+1 ; L-1s +4 now bet R;R
7 w+1; w+1c +6 NH now bet B;R
25 L-1; w+1s +6 now bet R;B
29 L-1; w+1c +6 now bet R;B
5 w+1; L-1s +6 now bet B;B
4 w+1; w+1c +8 NH now bet R;B
15 L-1; w+1s +8 now bet B;R
1 L-1; w+1c +8 now bet B;R
21 L-1; w+1s +8 now bet R;B
14 w+1; L-1c +8 now bet R;R
18 w+1; w+1s +10 NH now bet R;B
0 L-1; L-1c +8 now bet R;R (use # before 0)
23 w+1; w+1s +10 now bet R;B
A.
Bet only when R;R or B;B indicated by dbl and chop/streak.
Use prog 1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4..............
Reset if equal to current high or new high.
Using R/B EC
R +0
R +0 dbl=R; chop=B
R +0 dbl =R streak=R bet R @ 1u
B L -1 dbl=R chop=R bet R @ 1u
R W +0 dbl=B streak=R
0 +0 dbl=B chop=B bet B @ 1u
B W +1 dbl=R streak=B
B +1 dbl=B chop=R
R +1 dbl=B streak=R
B +1 dbl=R chop=R bet R @ 1u
B L +0 dbl=B streak=B bet B @ 1u
R L -1 dbl=B chop=B bet B @ 2u
B W +1 dbl=R streak=B
R +1 dbl=B chop=B bet B @ 1u
B W +2 dbl=R streak=B
B +2 dbl=B chop=R
B +2 dbl=B streak=B bet B @ 1u
R L +1 dbl=B chop=B bet B @ 1u
R L +0 dbl=R streak=R bet R @ 2u
R W +2 dbl=R chop=B
B +2 dbl=R streak=B
R +2 dbl=B chop=B bet B @ 1u
B W +3 dbl=R streak=B
R +3 dbl=B chop=B bet B @ 1u
B W +4 dbl=R streak=B
+4
A.
Same thing as before.
This method helps in making a decision upon which side of the EC to bet...
First record two results...
It kinda auto-selects the bet for you when the decision before last (dbl) and the play for alternating chop/streak (opposite/same) both match up.
The first bet to be made in the below example is when dbl (B) equals the chop of the LD (last decision)
That was R - so the chop would be to play for B - so it is a match!
On the next decision (win or lose) you consider the dbl and the streak (same) as LD to see if they match...
Whilst the dbl is always fixed the chop/streak prediction alternates each spin.
If and when a 0 occurs as below (whether win, lose or no bet) the previous 2 real numbers are used in the calculation.
B +0
R +0 dbl=B chop=B bet B @ 1u
R L -1 dbl=R streak=R bet R @ 1u
R W +0 dbl=R chop=B
R +0 dbl=R streak=R bet R @ 1u
R W +1 dbl=R chop=B
B +1 dbl=R streak=B
0 +1 dbl=R chop=R bet R @ 1u
B L +0 dbl=B streak=B bet B @ 1u
B W +1 dbl=B chop=R
R +1 dbl=B streak=R
R +1 dbl=R chop=B
R +1 dbl=R streak=R bet R @ 1u
B L +0 dbl=R chop=R bet R @ 1u
R W +1 dbl=B streak=R
B +1 dbl=R chop=R bet R @ 1u
R W +2 dbl=B streak=R
R +2 dbl=R chop=B
B +2 dbl=R streak=B
R +2 dbl=B chop=B bet B @ 1u
B W +3 dbl=R streak=B
B +3 dbl=B chop=R
0 +3 dbl=B streak=B bet B @ 1u
B W +4 dbl=B chop=R
B +4 dbl=B streak=B bet B @ 1u
B W +5 dbl=B chop=R
B +5 dbl=B streak=B bet B @ 1u
B W +6 dbl=B chop=R
R +6 dbl=B streak=R
+6
A.