Hi everyone,
first of all I want to say that I am not selling anything. and secondly that my english is bad so please bear with me.
I have tested this system , manually against 10,000 spins . it took me more than a month, because is not A system, in fact is a lot of systems mixed together. so now I want to code it and try it against 1million spins. the theory of the system is unbeatable.
the other problem I have , and looking for a solution is: to code the system to tell me which numbers to play. because as it is a mix of multiple systems (more than 100) It cant be done manually. a team must have to play. one person with a netbook or phone and the other one at the table.
well if any serious coder is out there, please contact me
Hi, welcome to the forum.
Can you tell us more about your system(s) ? How do you decide when and wich one to play? Maybe some coder will find it interesting, once they know more about your ideas.
Best regards.
Quoteto code the system to tell me which numbers to play. because as it is a mix of multiple systems (more than 100) It can't be done manually
Is this for live wheel online, RNG online or standing in a casino?
I code bots that do ALL the work for you, they calculate the trigger/s place the bets, you just sit back and relax, pm me if you want to discuss further.
hi,
its for land casinos, but it would be interesting to test it against RNG.
it has many triggers as there are more than 100 systems mixed. however the system will play only a few spins ie. 20% of the spins.
to just give an idea (this is not part of the system but the theory) say play red after 20 blacks (you will see this once in your lifetime) . flat, till you have 1 chip of profit. Again, this is not the system, is just an example of one of the 100 systems.
even randomness has a limit, well I want to test that limits with millions of spins ( i did it with 10k spins and also tested the system with other set with good earnings) to know how good it does it in the long run.
Basically, what you are sugesting is mixing a variety of systems and play them only in limmit conditions (conditions that happen once in a lifetime), just to win 1 unit profit for each? You think it can be profitable, considering the time one will have to invest so that this conditions come to place? Please don't take this questions personally, I'm just wondering about the feasibility of the idea itself...
Best regards
Quote from: superman on Jul 20, 06:28 AM 2011
Is this for live wheel online, RNG online or standing in a casino?
I never understood difference between this... Can you explain? I mean you can cheat a cheaters?
Regards
Drazen
@drazen
He said
Quoteone person with a netbook or phone and the other one at the table
So I assumed he was standing in a casino, but wasn't sure so asked the question.
Oh so. If anyone is at least a little serious player he will never even mention RNG. And second if system didn't failed after 10 000 spins it won't fail after 1 milion.
Guys don't want pretend smart, but do you know how is right way to test any system?
Think, what is the point of testing 10 000 or milion spins per session. How many spins you can play average on day? Even if you are whole day in casino? Where and how you can play 10 000 or milion spins in one piece? If you won first 10 000 spins you would have so much money, that you wouldnt even think playing roulette in your life...
This doesnt reffer to you guys, but biggest problem of some guys here is exactly that. They are just sitting in front of PC waiting some method to test it like that, and when it fails, they are ready to argue, because they didnt got method that will never lose... Unbelivalble.
So dear average joe, if you have method(s) that didnt lost after 10 000 spins then you have holy shmoly. And dont reveal it to anyone. Go make enourmous amounts of money. Just my 2 cents. ;)
Regards
Drazen
Quote from: drazen_cro on Jul 22, 02:01 PM 2011
Oh so. If anyone is at least a little serious player he will never even mention RNG. And second if system didn't failed after 10 000 spins it won't fail after 1 milion.
Guys don't want pretend smart, but do you know how is right way to test any system?
Think, what is the point of testing 10 000 or milion spins per session. How many spins you can play average on day? Even if you are whole day in casino? Where and how you can play 10 000 or milion spins in one piece? If you won first 10 000 spins you would have so much money, that you wouldnt even think playing roulette in your life...
This doesn't reffer to you guys, but biggest problem of some guys here is exactly that. They are just sitting in front of PC waiting some method to test it like that, and when it fails, they are ready to argue, because they didn't got method that will never lose... Unbelivalble.
So dear average joe, if you have method(s) that didn't lost after 10 000 spins then you have holy shmoly. And don't reveal it to anyone. Go make enourmous amounts of money. Just my 2 cents. ;)
Regards
Drazen
i have a system that will hold for 160 000 spins....
and then it will tank in 50 spins sequence from hell.
i don't think this is holy :/
Testing with 1000000 spins is neccesary just to find those hell spins.
Quote from: drazen_cro on Jul 22, 02:01 PM 2011
Oh so. If anyone is at least a little serious player he will never even mention RNG. And second if system didn't failed after 10 000 spins it won't fail after 1 milion.
Guys don't want pretend smart, but do you know how is right way to test any system?
Think, what is the point of testing 10 000 or milion spins per session. How many spins you can play average on day? Even if you are whole day in casino? Where and how you can play 10 000 or milion spins in one piece? If you won first 10 000 spins you would have so much money, that you wouldnt even think playing roulette in your life...
This doesn't reffer to you guys, but biggest problem of some guys here is exactly that. They are just sitting in front of PC waiting some method to test it like that, and when it fails, they are ready to argue, because they didn't got method that will never lose... Unbelivalble.
So dear average joe, if you have method(s) that didn't lost after 10 000 spins then you have holy shmoly. And don't reveal it to anyone. Go make enourmous amounts of money. Just my 2 cents. ;)
Regards
Drazen
firstly my english is bad , so I cannot express my ideas as I may want to .
but...
Do you know me? Do you have any idea of the system I have??? Do you know if I own a team of players? or how many spins per minute I can play in a real roulette? do you know if I am already filthy rich or not?
If not please dont hijack my thread and go to bother somewhere else.
Did I say it win all the 10,000 spins??? the system is designed to play only a few spins per session, so 10,000 spins could not mean a thing. I want to test it on the long run.
I am looking for a coder (s) and I will share with him (them) so dont say I am not sharing. In fact I have just posted 1 of the triggers I use in the 100 mixed triggers in the other forum.
I need millions of spins, real ones or RNG , it doesnt matter if the RNG is really random.
Before I use the system I need to know the maximum weird events my system can face.
3 million spins were tested in another forum, it was useful to know a bit more about roulette and "records"
Layout Spins Mean Std. Dev Min. RepeatMax. RepeatSpins Lst Ap'edMinIntrvl MaxIntrvl
1st Dozen 1000954 1000267.78 0.83 1 15 2 1 36
2nd Dozen 999256 1000267.78 -1.23 1 13 0 1 37
3rd Dozen 1000528 1000267.78 0.32 1 13 1 1 36
Column A 999717 1000267.78 -0.67 1 12 1 1 33
Column B 999954 1000267.78 -0.38 1 13 2 1 38
Column C 1001067 1000267.78 0.97 1 14 0 1 37
so from here I can now know that a dozen or column may sleep 38 consecutive spins. So if I am designing a system for dozens, columns or 12 numbers this information can help me save a lot of money.
will this 38 "record" happen when I play? probably not. but you never know. But if I am playing anything else, and eventually find a dozen / column to sleep 30-32 spins, I will surely bet on it.
Dear averagejoe, you got this all wrong. My intention wasn't hijack or bother, but with your attitude like that this conversation is over. Thanks for replying.
I want you all the best in finding coder for your system.
Anyway. Once more sorry for "hijacking" and "bothering" It won't happen anymore.
Regards
Drazen
@ averagejoe
Mate you are asking for a lot of work, someone may already have the data you want, there was a million spins file on the old vls forum, maybe Victor has a copy or someone else here, I did have it but on my old pc. HTH
Quote from: vladir on Jul 22, 12:04 PM 2011
Basically, what you are sugesting is mixing a variety of systems and play them only in limmit conditions (conditions that happen once in a lifetime), just to win 1 unit profit for each? You think it can be profitable, considering the time one will have to invest so that this conditions come to place? Please don't take this questions personally, I'm just wondering about the feasibility of the idea itself...
Best regards
you get the point, but the example red-black was just an example, then 1 chip for a simple chance is ok, if you win permanently. But I am using this for numbers, 2-12 numbers. so average winnings is far over 1 chip per session.