Does any member here play the Streets at Bet Voyager?
Just wondered.
A nice simple Progression list for Streets. (0.10cents..... lot of Money eh!!)
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Level,Style of Bet, Bet, Loss, Win, Gain, Notes
1,0.10 on 1 Street,0.10,0.10,1.20,1.10,-
2,0.10 on 1 Street,0.10,0.20,1.20,1.00,-
3,0.10 on 1 Street,0.10,0.30,1.20,0.90,-
4,0.10 on 1 Street,0.10,0.40,1.20,0.80,-
5,0.10 on 1 Street,0.10,0.50,1.20,0.70,-
6,0.10 on 1 Street,0.10,0.60,1.20,0.60,-cross over point.
7,0.10 on 1 Street,0.10,0.70,1.20,0.50,-
8,0.10 on 1 Street,0.10,0.80,1.20,0.40,-
9,0.10 on 1 Street,0.10,0.90,1.20,0.30,-
10,0.20 on 1 Street,0.20,1.10,2.40,1.30,-could have gone 0.10 here for smaller R.O.I.
11,0.20 on 1 Street,0.20,1.30,2.40,1.10,-same as level 1
12,0.20 on 1 street,0.20,1.50,2.40,0.90,-
13,0.20 on 1 Street,0.20,1.70,2.40,0.70,-
14,0.20 on 1 Street,0.20,1.90,2.40,0.50,-
15,0.20 on 1 Street,0.20,2.10,2.40,0.30,-
16,0.30 on 1 Street,0.30,2.40,3.60,1.20,-could have gone 0.20 here for smaller R.O.I.
17,0.30 on 1 Street,0.30,2.70,3.60,0.90,-
18,0.30 on 1 Street,0.30,3.00,3.60,0.60,-
19,0.30 on 1 Street,0.30,3.30,3.60,0.30,-
20,0.40 on 1 Street,0.40,3.70,4.80,1.10,-
21,0.40 on 1 Street,0.40,4.10,4.80,0.70,-
22,0.40 on 1 Street,0.40,4.50,4.80,0.30,-possibly too small a return here.
23,0.50 on 1 Street,0.50,5.00,6.00,1.00,-
24,0.50 on 1 Street,0.50,5.50,6.00,0.50,-
25,0.60 on 1 Street,0.60,6.10,7.20,1.10,-
26,0.60 on 1 Street,0.60,6.70,7.20,0.50,-
27,0.70 on 1 Street,0.70,7.40,8.40,1.00,-
28,0.80 on 1 Street,0.80,8.20,9.60,1.40,-could be slowed down to 0.75 here.
29,0.90 on 1 Street,0.90,9.10,10.80,1.70,-
30,1.00 on 1 Street,1.00,10.10,12.00,1.90,-can go further if required.
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Table limit for Street Bet at Bet Voyager No zero, is:- [attachimg=1]
Question.
Can a
Street at Bet Voyager No zero (or Standard European Table), sleep for Longer than 30 levels?
Should we track first to find a missing
Street, or just Pick ONE
Street, and go for it?
answers on a fag packet pls!
;)
I just established........yes they can Sleep Longer than 30 spins! :'(
Back to bread and dripping for me then........
When i was playing Winkels "win as much as you want but BV will take as much as he wants after that and even more" one DS sleeped for 63 spins. ::)
I have found the deeper U go into a game at BV, the worse (for You/Us that is), the results get.
My new tactic, since its so easy to do on-line, is Play & Reset.
Its Like Hit & Run, but with different coloured pants on!! LoL
I read somewhere the suggestion that RNG's including BV can work out your betting pattern after about 20 mins and counter it.
Robert
I read somewhere the suggestion that RNG's including BV can work out your betting pattern after about 20 mins and counter it.
Sure it is possible. With BV you need to generate at least 60 spins and change systems. They generate spins before you bet but if they found you betting pattern they can generate spins against the pattern. If you change tactics every 60 spins they have no chance to cheat.
Regards
DL
Quote from: trebor on Sep 17, 08:29 AM 2011
I read somewhere the suggestion that RNG's including BV can work out your betting pattern after about 20 mins and counter it.
Well one way to see if a system would have lost anyway is to play on BVNoZero with an unloseable bet eg: 3u on Low; 2u on 3rd DOZ and 1u on LINE 19-24. Now you can auto spin and record results and see if your system would have lost on paper. Since the software can have no idea of your betting system, if your system loses to the spun outcomes - then maybe the system needs looking at.
On the other hand if you do this and record strings of wins - then go and play for real and it loses then it could be just unlucky or "something else" going on....?
A.
QuoteI read somewhere the suggestion that RNG's including BV can work out your betting pattern after about 20 mins and counter it
Hey Robert, it's true they could do that without any doubt BUT any reputable platform doesn't need to cheat, random catches us eventually, as I have said numerous times, I test against many different forms of Random() php, RXTreme, online RNG (playtech for speed) and the built in Random in the software I use to create the bots, I have even taken some methods onto LIVE tables and got my ar$e kicked, there is no difference whatsoever as far as I am concerned.
Quoteafter about 20 mins and counter it
Those with experience of RX will know that most of the time you plug a method into RX, the earnings graph will go up and up before the inevitable drop, funny hey.
Maybe we just like to have something to blame.
Yes we like something to blame. All the same I use BV because it gives me a little more control. By generating 60 spins and changing strategy I feel happier. Doesn't stop the losing sessions though. :(
Robert
Great posts.........
Is it possible to bet RNG..............?
Can or could we outsmart a computer program............?
I think there is a chance...........
Quote from: amk on Sep 18, 03:09 PM 2011
Great posts.........
Is it possible to bet RNG..............?
Can or could we outsmart a computer program............?
I think there is a chance...........
Very wrong and sad idea
:'(
Regards
Drazen
Quote from: amk on Sep 18, 03:09 PM 2011
I think there is a chance...........
I think so too.
(in fact.................certain of it!)
Sorry to disappoint Drazen
:(
Quote from: Chrisbis on Sep 18, 03:28 PM 2011
I think so too.
(in fact.................certain of it!)
Sorry to disappoint Drazen
:(
Chrisbi mate. I heard something similar before from you and probably You mean on certain chances when you were betting on all 3 dozens with 30 steps of progression? Saying you will show them who is the boss ;) But they just swept you...
Lately i can't fail to notice you are synonym word for BV. don't get me offensive, just personal observation from your posts and pictures. ::)
If you have an enemies and can't go against them, go with them, right? don't know why but on the dark side, they always have cookies... I hate them, because i just can't say no when they offer them >:D
Regards
Drazen
Quote from: drazen_cro on Sep 18, 03:12 PM 2011
Very wrong and sad idea
:'(
Regards
Drazen
I don't post often but sometimes I do.
Why you say so? looking at yours "entry forum" posts you thoughts where different.
Looking at the RNG (Roulette) table we are only limited by table limits. In other case we are 100% winners. It is much easier to beat (fair) RNG that roulette wheel. We have to agree that some super RNG is like roulette wheel. Does it it has memory - sure not. So what we got - frequency (here we get all the hit and run tactics because at real roulette wheel we can process 800 spins per 10 hours) . and with RNG we can use more tactics (or systems). Warrior was right in his post that RNG beats every system in some stage because in 1 mil or 5 mil numbers (or spins) you will find the number pattern which will kill every system designed for live wheel or lets say for short sessions.
So looks that hit and run exists??? :LoL
To beat RNG we have to use tracking ability (at least I think so). Tracking - it is bet selection and when I speak about bet selection against RNG I mean probabilities. What I mean! Playing against RNG we can "pass" many spins so we can use use random deviation against random. At least I think so and it is the only way. We need hit ratio.
Regards (sry for my English)
DL
Quote from: Optimist on Sep 18, 05:00 PM 2011
I don't post often but sometimes I do.
Why you say so? looking at yours "entry forum" posts you thoughts where different.
Looking at the RNG (Roulette) table we are only limited by table limits. In other case we are 100% winners. It is much easier to beat (fair) RNG that roulette wheel. We have to agree that some super RNG is like roulette wheel. Does it it has memory - sure not. So what we got - frequency (here we get all the hit and run tactics because at real roulette wheel we can process 800 spins per 10 hours) . and with RNG we can use more tactics (or systems). Warrior was right in his post that RNG beats every system in some stage because in 1 mil or 5 mil numbers (or spins) you will find the number pattern which will kill every system designed for live wheel or lets say for short sessions.
So looks that hit and run exists??? :LoL
To beat RNG we have to use tracking ability (at least I think so). Tracking - it is bet selection and when I speak about bet selection against RNG I mean probabilities. What I mean! Playing against RNG we can "pass" many spins so we can use use random deviation against random. At least I think so and it is the only way. We need hit ratio.
Regards (sry for my English)
DL
I am sorry, but nor i will nor i should writte by 100th time against RNG-s. Read my past posts and somewhere you will find explanation and types of RNG-s. Your knowledge and sayings about RNG-s, their functioning and
especialy difference beetwen live wheel and RNG left me breathless...
And about things you just said, well i don't want say a word... everything else beside saying nothing is incredibly unnecessary.
Regards
Drazen
Drazen
This IS so true.
Regards
Chrisbis
Chrisbis
Chrisbis
For me, the "TRICK" has become........ Multiplexity.
(if such a word exists)
(I make 'em up now and again!)
I play not one, not two, not three But several systems at ONE time, IN ONE game.
If, One system is not trending for the time being, shift to another "Pattern".
If that come to a dead end, then select reverse, Do U three Point Turn manoeuvre,
and change direction again.
Being flexible on the counter attack is the bed-rock to taking RNG on.
Assuming its Kosha!
I imagine, if U did not play with the same Va-Va-Voom at the B & M wheels,
Random will eventually eat U up there too!
Just my 35cents worth....................................... ;)
[reveal]I have Never been To a REAL casino before..............yet! ;)[/reveal]
Quote from: Chrisbis on Sep 18, 05:42 PM 2011
For me, the "TRICK" has become........ Multiplexity.
(if such a word exists)
(I make 'em up now and again!)
I play not one, not two, not three But several systems at ONE time, IN ONE game.
If, One system is not trending for the time being, shift to another "Pattern".
If that come to a dead end, then select reverse, Do U three Point Turn manoeuvre,
and change direction again.
Being flexible on the counter attack is the bed-rock to taking RNG on.
Assuming its Kosha!
I imagine, if U did not play with the same Va-Va-Voom at the B & M wheels,
Random will eventually eat U up there too!
Just my 35cents worth....................................... ;)
[reveal]I have Never been To a REAL casino before..............yet! ;) [/reveal]
I appreciate it Chris. This thing worths much more than 35 cents, i can guarantee that. Don't know when you came up on this, but this was first thing i was taught by my guardian angel, and you wont belive for free,because he has great heart. :thumbsup:
I am glad if it works good on RNG, but just imagine how great it works on B&M tables. :wink:
Regards
Drazen
Hoping so.
Something Much more REVOLUTIONARY, is on its way though............
May change the way U think about betting all together.
......................and......
I don't Just respect your Guardian Angel........................I love him for the Man he is!
Really miss him too!! :-*
best wishes to the man. Mwah.
(Totally Plutonic of course)!!
Just One thing Drazen, and as You know I'm not Admin here, never was!..... ......
No Need to "Quote", when Its right above u!
Ok?
Respect your position though.
Maybe U teach me B & M one day Huh?....... :smile:
Very thankfull for the suggestion. You are right, it looks better and makes sense after all :-[
About "teaching".. well first i have to get diploma then i could teach, right? ;)
It will take some time for me. (still young)
But maybe one day we could play in B&M, as you said: there is always a chance...
Regards
Drazen
Optimist:
"What I mean! Playing against RNG we can "pass" many spins so we can use use random deviation against random. At least I think so and it is the only way. We need hit ratio."
Regards (sry for my English)
DL
This is true Optimist however, how smart is the RNG (computer program)?
If the best programmer on this forum, and the are a lot, sat down with the casino when it was creating it's RNG to regulate for fairness and deemed the software safe would we win?
It is not LIVE roulette still a computer.............
There has to be a deviation between the 2...............