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Title: Dozen Warfare
Post by: buffalowizard on Sep 22, 05:36 PM 2011
Allo people


Long time, no system.


So here's one to get your teeth into.


Wait for 3 non-repeating dozens > 2,3,2 or 1,2,3 or 3,2,3


They must not have followed on from another run either > 3,3,2,1 doesn't count as the 3 is not unique.
3,3,2,1,3 does count however because the 2,1,3 are all unique and non-repeating.


After the 3 unique numbers hit, we bet 4 times for a repeat using 1,1,2,3 progression.


If you win, then start tracking over


If this loses, then start tracking over and wait for 3 more unique non-repeaters and go up to
2,2,4,6 progression.


If that loses then go to 5,5,10,20.


Then stop and take your losses if this loses.


On my records it takes some beating though.


Good luck


BW


Title: Re: Dozen Warfare
Post by: amk on Sep 23, 04:56 PM 2011
Hello Buffalowizard.......

What are are your stats if I may ask..............

Very interesting sequence, great work...........
Title: Re: Dozen Warfare
Post by: buffalowizard on Sep 23, 05:19 PM 2011
Hello amk,


I have played for real twice and have got to +20 with ease.


On paper tests I have checked over roughly 5 sessions/500 spins and  have finished in the plus on each of these.


Here is a short sequence:


2
3
22
22
6
0
22
35
4       <<Here is the first 3 non repeats
32     
33     Win on 2nd spin
1
27
20    <<Trigger
6
8      Win
10
25
11    <<Trigger
27
27    Win
32
15
26    <<Trigger
33    Win
12
8
23
32
15    <<Trigger
10
28
13
26    1st Loss on phase one (1,1,2,3)
13
25
3      <<Trigger
11    Win


Hope this helps


BW

Title: Re: Dozen Warfare
Post by: Jeromin on Sep 23, 08:21 PM 2011
Started testing it and tanked right away. 01/09/11, spielbank Wiesbaden, T2.
L (-7)
W (-5)
W (-3)
L (-17)
L (-57)

Only a first attempt, of course.

Jeromin
Title: Re: Dozen Warfare
Post by: buffalowizard on Sep 24, 07:05 PM 2011
Quote from: Jeromin on Sep 23, 08:21 PM 2011
Started testing it and tanked right away. 01/09/11, spielbank Wiesbaden, T2.
L (-7)
W (-5)
W (-3)
L (-17)
L (-57)

Only a first attempt, of course.

Jeromin


I don't know how you got from -3 to -17 when the progression is 1,1,2,3 after a win.
Also after 1 loss you bet 2,2,4,6 so I'm not sure how you lost 40 units?


BW
Title: Re: Dozen Warfare
Post by: atlantis on Nov 08, 05:42 AM 2013
Hi Buffalowizard,

Came back to this as is a good system and I enjoy success with it. I play it exactly as you describe on real roulette single 0.
One change: I also apply it to columns as well. (I choose to play it for very small stakes)

I use progression: 1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,3,4,4,4,5,5,5......... etc. on both doz and col recorded separately.

Forward one position in the prog. string on loss - - back 2 places in the progression string on a win.

However, if level or in positive at any time I will reset both progs to start.

Thanks
A.
Title: Re: Dozen Warfare
Post by: buffalowizard on Nov 09, 08:01 AM 2013
Hi Atlantis,

I'm glad this method continues to do well for you.

It always did seem to be pretty solid in my testing - until I moved on to new ideas!

Long may your winnings continue mate, I like your tweaks

BW
Title: Re: Dozen Warfare
Post by: joiner29 on Nov 09, 02:36 PM 2013
Hi could you please explain this system a little more as i do not understand the full method, sorry to be a pest
joiner 29
Title: Re: Dozen Warfare
Post by: atlantis on Nov 10, 10:41 AM 2013
Hi joiner29,
Well I think BW did a good job explaining it but here goes:

Wait until you see 3 non-repeat dozens. For example:
123 or 212 or 312 or 131
They must be isolated unique non-repeaters so 3321 does not count as the second doz 3 is not unique...

When you have this trigger signal (no dozen repeats for 3 spins) then start betting for a REPEAT to occur always of the CURRENT LAST HIT dozen showing.

If betting dozens then record them as they hit in order. Here is my most recent dozen string:

t=trigger
W=won
L=lost

3 1 1 2 1 1 3 1 1 3 2 1(t) 3(L) 3(W) 1 3 2(t) 1(L) 3(L) 2(L) 1(L) 1(W)   =+0

I also play columns. And here is the equivalent column result string:

3 1 2(t) 1(L) 3(L) 1(L) 1(W) 3 1 2(t) 2(W) 1 2 3(t) 1(L) 1(W) 1 3 1 3(t) 3(W) 3  =+6

+6 in 22 spins (15 bets placed)
That's using my progression and resetting when level or new high.

Since I aim for +5 each time that is end of session for me.

A.
Title: Re: Dozen Warfare
Post by: GLC on Nov 10, 04:10 PM 2013
This is one of those systems that I like to play in combination with others.  They're all based on waiting for a pattern that hasn't happened for a while to happen, or for a pattern that is happening to end.

Since I'm looking for different triggers for different patterns, I don't jump in so quick as just 3 dozens without a repeat.  More like 5, 6 or even 7 spins without a repeat.  It works right along with betting for a dozen that's hit 7 or 8 times in a row to finally end.

I wish there was a way to interject a comment like this so that it doesn't interrupt the flow of the main topic.  It seems excessive to start a new topic just for this comment.

Although, I think it is apropos to point out the type of system this is.  And, I want to also point out that the 2 books by authors who attest to being able to beat roulette, that I gave a report on in previous posts, used this type of betting.  That is, betting against the wheel seemed to be their favorite method.

Title: Re: Dozen Warfare
Post by: atlantis on Jan 21, 05:43 AM 2014
Hi,

I've been trying GLC's idea to wait for 7 non-repeat dozens on this and then start betting for the repeat to happen. So far (and I know its early days yet) after testing 7200 spins (dublinbet) I have never gone past step 10 in a progression on single 0 real numbers...

+143 up so far. (dozens only)

S'pose could track columns or alternate dozens as well for more bets.

17-step standard progression: 1,1,2,3,4,6,9,14,21,31,47,70,105,158,237,335,533

A.
Title: Re: Dozen Warfare
Post by: atlantis on Jan 21, 07:41 AM 2014
I should point out that I would only ever play this for low stakes. I would use 10p units. (therefore my total bankroll at risk for 1 progression would be £157.70)

A.
Title: Re: Dozen Warfare
Post by: buffalowizard on Jan 21, 09:51 AM 2014
Hi Atlantis
Would be perfect for a bot because sometimes you only get 1 lot of 7 non repeats per100 spins

BW