Hey guys....I played around with Roulette Bot Pro a few years back, and now find it dosnt seem to work with Bet Voyager or Playtech casinoes. It cant find the buttons.
All I want is something similar that I can programme - for example - bet on the 15 black in a row with a martingale progression etc...
Roulette bot pro was pretty good at this as I could programme it to bet on evens, streets, lines, dozens etc all at once. Im gutted it dosnt work any more!
Ive downloaded a few demos but they dont allow enough options till i pay - and Im not prepared to pay yet as most seem to be scams.
Anyone got any recommendations of software that does what i want?
Cheers
Hi,
Try link:://:.money-maker-machine.com (link:://:.money-maker-machine.com)
I am using it (have tried others too) but think this one is the best. Not the cheapest one but works on many platforms including live wheels (bad thing is that you need separate license for every platform).
Regards
DL
Thanks dude - Ill check it out.
QuotePlaytech casinoes. It can't find the buttons
Yes they moved the rebet button last week sometime, ballache but an easy fix. I don't think RBP has worked for the last 6 months atleast, the programmer has gone AWOL
The easiest way is probably to code a specific one to your needs.
With TitanBet here, they have a desktop application. It was easily reverse-engineered and now I can inject my bot into the running program, it can read spins, place bets, check my bankroll and I can control all this in real-time from my iPhone.
Let me know if you still can't find anything, I was thinking to open an account on BetVoyager (:
Thats pretty clever Nitrix! And being able to check up on it from your Iphone is awesome!
I just wanted to do something simple really - find out the maximum number of unhit blacks in a row, evens, highs, columns, dozens etc....
Then get it to bet the opposite with a martingale progression.
Eg, if the most seen blacks in a row was 50, get it to start betting around 45. It will probably only get one bet per day and be a pretty slow grind but if that one bet is for $20 its not so bad - beats 200 1 cent bets! and its automatic....
Problem U would have, and we know "Random" can and will do this,
is When U start betting at Black number 45, in the continuous row,
if it goes to 50 Blacks, and then still continues with Black!
Where do u go then ?
If someone has seen 50 in a row, then one day someone, will see 51 in a row..... then.....
U get the idea. :-X
U want to look for a bet, maybe a table bet, that is betting WITH active results, not waiting for something to awaken. Trending its called.
U know how Princesses can sleep? [attachimg=1]
cheers.
@Smee, this will tell you everything you want to know:
link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=661.60 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=661.60) (reply #69, download the 12 million spins chart)
@Chrisbis, I wonder if it's really such a bad idea. The longest EC sleep in 12 million spins is 23 spins, so if we ran a 7 step marty after 18 repeats, then we're covered for 25, just in case. The bot could be set to watch everything, not just EC's. So if a DS doesn't show for 85 spins it would run the marty on that, if a single number doesn't show for 595 spins, etc...
Quote from: Optimist on Sep 27, 03:56 AM 2011
Hi,
Try link:://:.money-maker-machine.com (link:://:.money-maker-machine.com)
I am using it (have tried others too) but think this one is the best. Not the cheapest one but works on many platforms including live wheels (bad thing is that you need separate license for every platform).
Regards
DL
I agree with the above.
Especially when it comes to RSS Pro.
I have done numerous videos on it.
And created various scripts.
Smee! You just gave me an idea! You could in fact track X spins of the same color than start betting the opposite with martingale.
AND, the more you spin the wheel, the more you increase X. Because the chances of losing a long strike is increased proportionally to the number of spins you play.
(Why? Because at some point your progression cannot handle that many losses but will perform just fine otherwise..... and you can calculate the said treshold with maths! :D).
That's some VERY interesting food for though you gave me there ;)
Cheers~
Umm....yeah nitrix.....thats kinda exactly what I was meaning. After 45 spins bet the opposite to happen, maybe I worded it wrong.
And yeah Chris, I know what your saying but I was kinda over my failed systems and thought it would just be interesting to see how the bot did - I would make it play so tight that there would only be one or two betting opportunities per night.
And Birdhands is thinking exactly the way i am too!....and thanks Thomas - ill check it out.
Quote from: Smee on Sep 28, 12:45 AM 2011
Umm....yeah nitrix.....that's kinda exactly what I was meaning. After 45 spins bet the opposite to happen, maybe I worded it wrong.
I think he means something a little different. The part about proportionally increasing the trigger is an innovation. I think he is saying that, as in my example, we begin by starting our marty at 15 sleeps, then, say after 10,000 bets, begin it at 16, then after 100,000 begin it at 17, etc. Of course I may have misunderstood.
@Nitrix, the flaw in this as I see it is that if a number can sleep for 23 spins in a test of 12 million, it can also sleep that long in the first 23. It is my sense that, especially when relying on a marty, we should always be prepared for the worst.
That makes sense Birdhands. Wouldnt we just increase the sleeps that the marty starts on as the number of sleeps increases?
Set it to begin with to strat betting red after 20 reds in a row have come up ( the chart on the link says red slept max of 23 spins so with a 7 step marty this gives 4 steps of safety ) and if it ever goes over sleeping 23 spins and into that safety zone just increaase the number of slepps it starts betting on. As the sleeps increase, the betting sleeps increase - dont base it on a number of spins.
Interesting that reply 70 on the link Birdhands posted suggests doing this very thing with Roulette Bot Pro.....shame it dosnt work anymore.
Birdhands, thanks man (:
That's what I have in mind, did anybody tested it before?
It might lose but I'd like to believe it's still an improvement over the regular Martingale.
Martingale is said to be the most consistent system, except that it's risky.
I wonder what happens if you can lower the risks...
EDIT:
I read the other post just below yours, which is also interesting: That's another thing I noticed: You'll almost (if not ever in a life time) always deal with strikes of smaller duration before running into a longer losing strike of say, 29 times in a row.
You'd have:
2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2 = 1 out 536,870,912 chances of losing on your first 29 spins without any "warning" strikes before.
As you see fit, you can sleep longer and protect your bankroll knowing this in my opinion.
You theoretically should have more chances on your side...
Theoretically.
Quote from: Smee on Sep 28, 02:51 PM 2011
That makes sense Birdhands. Wouldnt we just increase the sleeps that the marty starts on as the number of sleeps increases?
Set it to begin with to strategy betting red after 20 reds in a row have come up ( the chart on the link says red slept max of 23 spins so with a 7 step marty this gives 4 steps of safety ) and if it ever goes over sleeping 23 spins and into that safety zone just increaase the number of slepps it starts betting on. As the sleeps increase, the betting sleeps increase - don't base it on a number of spins.
I don't quite understand what you are proposing here, Smee; but I'm really curious. Could you explain it again a different way?
RSS PRO is intimidating to me, being someone who is not very computer-savvy. I don't see myself learning to write code unless I absolutely have to. Are there any more user-friendly bots out there?
Quote from: birdhands on Sep 29, 04:43 PM 2011
RSS PRO is intimidating to me, being someone who is not very computer-savvy. I don't see myself learning to write code unless I absolutely have to. Are there any more user-friendly bots out there?
Well, your not left with a lot options then.
RSS Pro is very good.
You can do just about anything with it.
All you got to do. Is code it.
And since it is in Pacal. It ain't that hard.
Is Pascal the same code that RX uses?
@Birdhands
Here was my simple theory and im sure its the same as what you and Nitrix are talking about.
Your link says out of 12 million spins the max red repeated was 22 spins. So we set up a bot to watch until red has repeated for example 17 spins then bets on the 18th. Then if it loses it does a small marty progression.
If we use an 8 step marty we would have the last 4 steps as protection in case it goes over 22 repeats - so we would be safe for 26 repeats total, and out of 12 million spins this hasnt happened...
If it goes over we simply change the number of repeats it places the bets at for the amount of spins it goes over.
If it is only watching red tho there wont be many betting opportunities so it should be set up to watch all EC's, columns, dozens and maybe streets? So the marty progression would need to change for each bet type.
I would expect sooner or later it will go over the repeats as in the 12 million spins chart but as long as we adjust when it bets we should be pretty safe with the buffer marty bets.
And this is exactly what I was doing a few years back with Roullette Bot Pro playing a playtech RNG.
With the site and the bot set to FAST it was spinning crazy! Unfortunately I was also playing poker and lost interest in roullette so it just kinda stopped and now I want to play around with it a bit more the software wont work....and I wanted to try it at BV no 0 as I trust it a bit more. Probably wouldnt work on live wheels as it spins too slow, not enough betting opportunities.
Thanks for the explanation; it's all clear now. Yes, we would need a custom progression for each type of bet. We could also bet single numbers whenever they sleep long enough.
Definitely BV no zero, otherwise the sleeps increase a lot. You can even see on the 12 million chart, 23 reds in a row, but the interval is 29 because of 6 zeros in there too.
It looks like the only way to do this with a bot these days is to learn to become a rudimentary computer programmer and by RSS Pro...
Sam
Yeah I think your right Birdhanda...need to be a programmer.
I read the posts on Roulette Bot Plus and downloaded it then set up an account with Winner casino. Only playing fun money but it seems to work OK. Has a lot of limitations, wont work on BV, can only go up to 15 repeats and also times out for a couple of hours....wouldnt surprise me if this software was MADE by the casinos.
But if someone could hack it so the settings could be changed.....maybe it would be easier than learning Pascal!
Quote from: Silver on Oct 06, 03:45 PM 2011
If you want yourself to create a bot for RSS - then you are right - you need to learn programming language.
But in case you will request a service related to create a code for you - based on your requirements - in this case you don't need to know Pascal. The only thing you will have to do - is to edit some settings like value of 1 unit, values of progression steps, etc. This is the same as to change some symbols in the notepad.
So in order to have a professionally created bot these days - you need 2 things:
1.to have the RSS (or RSS_Pro) for desired platform - Playtech, Playtech_Live, RTG, BetVoyager, Microgaming.
2. to do a request for a service related to create a script for you - the script is ready in about 2-5 days. And you receive a very detailed instruction how to work with it.
May I recommend Silver to all members.
He is amazing.
Helped me numerous times.
Figured out how to modify his scripts for use with RSS Pro.
Use his scripts for all my own scripts.
I incorporate them in everything I do.
Learn a great deal just by reading what he does.
And how he does it.
I highly recommend Silver.
For converting your ideas on how you want to play roulette into a script.
Quote from: Silver on Oct 06, 03:45 PM 2011
If you want yourself to create a bot for RSS - then you are right - you need to learn programming language.
But in case you will request a service related to create a code for you - based on your requirements - in this case you don't need to know Pascal. The only thing you will have to do - is to edit some settings like value of 1 unit, values of progression steps, etc. This is the same as to change some symbols in the notepad.
So in order to have a professionally created bot these days - you need 2 things:
1.to have the RSS (or RSS_Pro) for desired platform - Playtech, Playtech_Live, RTG, BetVoyager, Microgaming.
2. to do a request for a service related to create a script for you - the script is ready in about 2-5 days. And you receive a very detailed instruction how to work with it.
What does the service cost?
Quote from: birdhands on Oct 06, 04:51 PM 2011
What does the service cost?
I think Silver charges about $50 per script.
He only uses Moneybookers.
He may charge more depending on what your after.
Of course he may respond directly to this.
And give you an approximate cost.
Quote from: Silver
Well, change/add/remove some values from the array - it is little complex work.
1.
To simple change some value it is easy.
procedure change_it(ci_elements,k,k1,id; var ci_elements);
var name, value_;
begin
case id of
5:begin
value_:=ci_elements[k,5,k1];
InputQuery('Change Progression for: '+ci_elements[k,10]+'-'+ci_elements[k,4,k1],
'Change Progression for: '+ci_elements[k,10]+#10#13+ci_elements[k,4,k1]+#10#13+#10#13+
'Current value ='+IntToStr(ci_elements[k,5,k1])+#10#13+'Set new value:',value_);
ci_elements[k,5,k1]:=value_;
end;
2.Add
To add/remove values is more complex work.
var arr1, arr_temp, k, k_32;
begin
arr1:=[0,1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128];
for k:=1 to VarArrayHighBound(arr1,1) do print(IntToStr(arr1[k])); //old values
//let add value 50 between 32 and 64
//let suppose that we know about index of 32 - bcause you should know after what existing_value you want to add new_value
//k_32 is the index of 32 - in our case k_32 = 6.
k_32:=6;
arr_temp:=VarArrayCreate([0,VarArrayHighBound(arr1,1)+1],12); //we create temp array with +1 value
for k:=0 to VarArrayHighBound(arr_temp,1) do begin
if k<=k_32 then arr_temp[k]:=arr1[k]; //values till 32 - including 32
if k=k_32+1 then arr_temp[k]:=50; //add new value
if k>k_32+1 then arr_temp[k]:=arr1[k-1]; //remained values from arr1 - 64,128
end;
arr1:=arr_temp; //chamge arr1 with new one
for k:=1 to VarArrayHighBound(arr1,1) do print(IntToStr(arr1[k])); //new values
//this is all
end;
2.Remove
To add/remove values is more complex work.
var arr1, arr_temp, k, k_32;
begin
arr1:=[0,1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128];
for k:=1 to VarArrayHighBound(arr1,1) do print(IntToStr(arr1[k])); //old values
//let remove 32
//let suppose that we know about index of 32 - bcause you should know what existing_value you want to remove
//k_32 is the index of 32 - in our case k_32 = 6.
k_32:=6;
arr_temp:=VarArrayCreate([0,VarArrayHighBound(arr1,1)-1],12); //we create temp array with -1 value
for k:=0 to VarArrayHighBound(arr_temp,1) do begin
if k<k_32 then arr_temp[k]:=arr1[k]; //values till 32 - excluding 32
if k>=k_32 then arr_temp[k]:=arr1[k+1]; //remained values from arr1 - 64,128
end;
arr1:=arr_temp; //change arr1 with new one
for k:=1 to VarArrayHighBound(arr1,1) do print(IntToStr(arr1[k])); //new values
//this is all
end;
Using these example you may change as much values in arrays as you want.
Ok, I just wanted to show you.
What you can do with Silvers Scripts.
In the above script.
Silver tells me how to change a few things.
Here is a video I did of what I was able to do with the script he wrote in here.
RSS Pro: Using Silver's Scripts... (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wi5Xlw-EiU#ws)
I'm not sure what you mean by a "single copy"
That sounds like half price.
Hey Silver - thanks for the info. Does it come with any pre-built bots already in the package? Like samples or demos or anything? I think for $50 im pretty keen...
Quote from: Smee on Oct 10, 10:57 PM 2011
Hey Silver - thanks for the info. Does it come with any pre-built bots already in the package? Like samples or demos or anything? I think for $50 I'm pretty keen...
I know you asked Silver this.
But I hope he does not mind me answering the question.
The answer is NO.
Not yet, at least.
Silver or I may put together a package for members of this forum.
For use with RSS. Personally, I would get RSS Pro.
It does the same job. But has more options.
But that is just me.
Some people like RSS because it has less options.
And can be up and running in seconds.
All you got to do is write a script.
Or have one done for you.
Quote from: Silver on Oct 11, 12:48 AM 2011
Basically you receive RSS only.
But there on the MMM forum - exists a lot of scripts created by different members.
Also for every platform (Playtech, BetVoyager, ...) - there exists a "Universal script for bet on sleepers" - a script that use basic sleeper system with progression - and it is very easy to adjust that scripts to any needs (to add/remove elements, change progressions, change alerts, etc.)
Those "Universal scripts for bet on sleepers" - are written by me - so I am responsible that they work at 100%.
I learned so much from all of Silvers scripts.
And have figured out how to modify them for my own uses.