I think this system Bayes will like it because he has spoken a lot of times about COMBINATION of bets. :)
Its the most simple system on the planet so i will not answer any question regarding the rules of play.
Rules of play :
We are betting the DOMINIAND Ecs and the DOMINIAND dozen or column.(When we have a Dominiand)
This means that we are tracking EVERY spin to have the knowledje of which are the dominiand Bets.
In the spins that we have 1 or 2 Ecs that have an Equal Hit(e.g.. 3 reds and 3 blacks) we do NOT bet this bet in that spin.(we are betting ONLY the imbalanced DOMINIAND bets)
The Doz and column bet will be on ONLY 1 Doz or COL and NOT on 2 at the same time!
Meaning we will never bet 2 dozens or 2 columns at the same time ....BUT we can bet 1 dozen and 1 column if they both have a dominiance one.
So on some spins we may have to bet just the RED the ODD and the 1st DOZ and nothing else because all the other bets are equaly hit (or the Doz or Col will have 2 domininds so we DO NOT bet both of them !!!!! This is important)
We play the system in about 50 spins.(or somewhere there close)
The reason is because as the spins pass by , the balance will be comming and our system will not be safe.
We are betting on every spin , because we will always have at least 1 imbalance on those 5 bets.
Reasons of why this system is possible to make money
As most of us know , mathimaticians tried to make systems relying on the balance of the results of Roulette. NO system ever had an edje simply because we can t know how much BACK to go in the spins tracking !
e.g.. We can record 100 spins and see that the REDS are 70 and the Blacks are 30.
We can t start betting on the blacks for the balance to come because there is a possibilitu that in the 1000 spins before , the Blacks were 700 and the reds were 300(excluding the zero for easier example)....so the reds can still be hitting more in the next 200 spins because they need the balance....
You got the point....so the FACTS telling us that we do not know IF and when the balance will come.
BUT in order for the balance to be restored....A LOT of imbalances will come 1st !!!!!!
And this is what we are trying to trap with this system...... ;)
The rules of the system about how many spins to be played each session is just an example of mine.... I POSTED the system in order to give an idea about a defferent play and in order for ALL OF US to make TWEAKS!!!!!!!
e.g.. Maybe in every new + , the tracking must be starting from the start...I don't know....
So lets all try to find the best possible way to play this....
Because as you have all seen,the most of the times we have big imbalances on the ECs and DOZ and COL.....so this thing is making us money with this system
Thanks
i think that's a good idea, but
i would not limit it by dozens or EC only. bet any dominant group u see. be it streets, double streets,
single number groups, columns, whatever.
and of course, hit and run. get the hell out of there when u got a small profit or reached a stop-loss or just played for too long
Thanks Iggiv but we can t bet everything because all the table will be full of chips.....LoL ;D
This is a system that needs a small Br (e.g. 50 chips)...with the way that you suggest we need a Big Br.
Any other suggestions about How many spins for this to be played???
Or maby of how many chips profit this have to be played and then tracking from begning?
Or maybe in every new Profit then track from beginning....
We must find the best choice...I think with some work we can make this idea work.
This is a test that I did in 50 spins.
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i don't mean bet everything at the same time. i mean everytime u start a new session -- bet something else
Quote from: RouletteExplorer on Sep 30, 02:53 PM 2011
Thanks Iggiv but we can t bet everything because all the table will be full of chips.....LoL ;D
This is a system that needs a small Br (e.g. 50 chips)...with the way that you suggest we need a Big Br.
Any other suggestions about How many spins for this to be played???
Or maby of how many chips profit this have to be played and then tracking from begning?
Or maybe in every new Profit then track from beginning....
We must find the best choice...I think with some work we can make this idea work.
don't go too far away from statistic average. for example u bet a dozen, if u lose don't go far away beyond 3 spins. maybe limit it by 3 spins. if u bet a street, limit it by 12 spins. otherwise u start betting on a sleeper, which is not good, u know that already. u may wait till the sleeper wakes up and then start betting again
I like it.
I have been testing the same imbalance of the EC using their differentials but your flat betting idea much better so far.
Did first 20 spin test and up +13 betting one unit.
Will continue to test.
Nick
Thanks for the system. I also try.
Is there a code dgt. Rx? Is the one that can be downloaded from the Roulette Extreme site?
If not, please can I give it?
thanks :)
Thanks Nickmsi
Did u also include in ur play the Doz and Col bets?? Or only the Ecs bets?
jarabo002 How can we have a RC code for that?? Its a new system and its also a noncomplete one because we don t still know when to start the rtaching from the start.
Quote from: jarabo002 on Sep 30, 03:35 PM 2011
Thanks for the system. I also try.
Is there a code dgt. Rx? Is the one that can be downloaded from the Roulette Extreme site?
If not, please can I give it?
thanks :)
RX will bet in consistent patterns which is not good. u have to change your patterns all the time.
and u have to be happy with small profits everytime, otherwise u will lose.
even with ur way it will lose iggiv because we can NEVER know when the 1 pattern will be favoured or will be killed...
Yes, RouletteExplorer, I included the Doz and Col in my test.
Iggiv, you were right about the sleeping Doz and Col. In my third test I had a Doz sleep for 7 spins and a Col for 8 spins. If I took your advice and stopped betting after they slept for 3 spins I would have saved 9 units and turned a -4 session into a +5.
Am now tweaking the testing to included Iggiv's advice, namely stop betting the Doz or Col if they sleep for 3 spins and start betting again when they awake.
Update on testing sessions of 20 spins each:
Session #1: +13
Session #2: +11
Session #3: -4 (If took Iggiv's advice would have been +5)
Nick
Hi,
Maybe off topic but...
The Idea is good. I am studying this imbalance approach for about a month. First of all I would say that this approach is playable ONLY on RNG. Maybe I am wrong but is my opinion. If you look at 2000 spins results you will see max deviation like 1100/900 for EC minus around 54 ZEROS so it should be around 1075/875. For flat betting you need hit 1001. In this 2000 spins imbalance you will have many small deviations and my studies shows that is very difficult to catch them at the right time. I have not find the final solution yet but at this moment I would say that the safe moment to start bet some EC flat is when:
Lets take EC bet RB
Track all spins and mark dominant color. (I said that is mainly for RNG so 500 spins could be ok). Lets say we have RED dominant.
We also track last 120 spins and look for small imbalances when RED is dominant again (you can track 80 spins or 100) and when we have situation when RED / Black is around 1.4 â€" 1.37 we start betting on BLACK for 120 spins and not flat but with project 202.
That is my opinion and I am hardly working on it when have time :)
It is based on many spins observations.
Much more difficult with dozens but possible I think.
Regards
DL
Nickmsi you can never know when the dozen or column or the Ecs will sleep or awake.....
So this way can t save you from anything....as you can lose chips by betting the sleeper dozen you can also lose winning money by not betting it(simply because u do not know ehen it will be awake)....so its the same thing.
But that s ok....try anything you like...we have to find the best way to play this
Quote from: Nickmsi on Sep 30, 03:25 PM 2011
I like it.
I have been testing the same imbalance of the EC using their differentials but your flat betting idea much better so far.
Did first 20 spin test and up +13 betting one unit.
Will continue to test.
Nick
13+?????....impossible 8)
I beliave the best way is to play the session until we are + or until a loss stop(maybe 50 chips is ok)
until now I have played with this way 12 sessions and all came in profit.
Worst down -19
longest spin till a new profit 52
I would like to be tested like this and if it will fail then we can speak about other ways.
Maybe the Restart tracking thing after a + is the key...because we are trapping new imbalances
Quotedon't go too far away from statistic average
@iggiv: It should be a basic rule for any systems posted :(
I'm glad you and I got the same thinking about this tho :)
nitrix or iggiv can you please xplin to me what do u mean by this? ---->don't go too far away from statistic average
Thanks
Quote from: RouletteExplorer on Sep 30, 05:24 PM 2011
nitrix or iggiv can you please xplin to me what do u mean by this? ---->don't go too far away from statistic average
Thanks
simple. average dozens hits once in 3 spins. average number hits once in 37 (38 spins). Etc.
so when u go beyond this u bet a sleeper. which is not what u want
Yes I also agree on that...
Update on the system:
After a lots of tests I have found out that the best stop loss is -30 chips.
So BR is 30 chips.
After any + we are finishing the session and we are tracking from the start.
Tests with -30 or ANY + .
1)-30 IN 62 SPINS
2)+1 IN 6 SPINS
3)+3 IN 8 SPINS
4)+1 IN 1 SPINS
5)+2 IN 6 SPINS
6)+4 IN 27 SPINS
7)+3 IN 1 SPINS
8 )+3 IN 49 SPINS
9)+1 IN 1 SPINS
10)+3 IN 6 SPINS
11)+1 IN 34 SPINS
12)+1 IN 1 SPIN
13)-30 IN 21 SPINS
RESULTS = -37 CHIPS.
The system with those rules of stop-loss and end session in every new + is not working.
Any ideas?
maybe reduce your session stop loss. your win goal could be small, but the stop loss should not be too big either. it should be proportional. for example win goal 10-20%, stop loss 20-50 %, no more than this. U make 1 unit, and u r ok with it, but u bet till u lose 30 units. that's not good.
Yes this was my thought too iggiv and you are right ofcource BUT I don t know if this will also make it win....
But I think its gonna be better with a smaller stop loss.
mayby around 15 chips.
it's a "percentage game". those are not my words, rather Bret Morton's. u gotta have very strict rules and stick to them. if your session win goal is only 1 unit, 15 units stop loss not good! it should not be more than 5 units.
Quote from: RouletteExplorer on Sep 30, 02:44 PM 2011
We can t start betting on the blacks for the balance to come because there is a possibilitu that in the 1000 spins before , the Blacks were 700 and the reds were 300(excluding the zero for easier example)....so the reds can still be hitting more in the next 200 spins because they need the balance....
I don't think such long term large imbalances happen. Maybe somebody could test it with large samples, but I looked at over fifty sessions on Wiesbaden; it's easy because they give you the EC summary and sessions go on for some 300 spins most of the time. The differentials always lie at 43/57 to 48/52 ( excluding 0 ). Within each sessions there's always a point where the non dominant EC approaches or even passes the 50% point. At Bet365 there are stats available for the last 150 spins on some wheels. Again, rarely goes below 43/57 for EC. When it does, you come back an hour later and chances are it has balanced somewhat.
Jeromin
My friends, imbalance is the key. But it should be observed as short sequence imbalance... It can give you good point to start the attack. When you hit your target, you stop and waiting for another chance. Applying this and observing several methods at the same time, you are getting your fabulous so called H G. I KNOW. End of discussion for me.
Regards
Drazen
Quote from RouletteExplorer:
"We can t start betting on the blacks for the balance to come because there is a possibilitu that in the 1000 spins before , the Blacks were 700 and the reds were 300(excluding the zero for easier example)....so the reds can still be hitting more in the next 200 spins because they need the balance...."
And the 1800 spins before that there were another 1500 blacks and 300 reds, and before that another 3000 reds and 1000 blacks possibly.
The truth is that most of the time we just don't know what happened 5000 spins ago let alone 10,000 or 50,000, therefore any retrospective view is of little use. It is better to observe what spins are about to happen and make a judgement on them as they come there and then. The zero point or starting point of measurement is the point at which you sit down and start to observe. As always all past events are irrelevant. By default all future results are the opposite.
Woods