1)We are setting the Roulette EXtreme to calculate the statistical analysis of the LAST 12 spins.
2)We are opening the statistics of the STREET bets.
3)We are betting ALL the UNHIT streets with so many chips as the NUMBER of the UNHIT STREETS !
e.g.. 4 Unhit streets ...so we are betting 4 chips on the 4 unhit streets.
eg2. 3 unhit streets ...so we are betting 3 chips on the 3 unhit streets.
4)As the spins are passing , new UNHIT streets will showing and some betted streets will be HIT(win).
5)So when we are winning we are taking the bet out of the winning street and we are observing how many streets are left to bet and AGAIN we are betting all the unhit streets with exactly the same number of chips as the number of the unhit streets is....
6)Look out because in some spins we can have 1 winning street and 1 new street to appear!
So we are removing the bet of the winning one and we are adding the bet on the new unhit that appiared....and the chips will be again the same on every street(because 1 won and remove and 1 unhit appiar and we have to bet it....so again as many unhit streets we have with the same numbers of chips we will bet all the ungit streets.... Its very easy and clear....
As you will be testing you will understand why we are winning...
The number of the chips that we are betting and the number of the unhit streets is making a perfect balance !!!!!!!
please I need a coder to make this system.
And people before the coder test manually to see the results ....it will amaze you !
Ps and never forget we are betting in every spin all the unhiy streets...every unhit street must have
so many chips on it as the number of the unhit streets is....e.g. . 6 Unhit streets must have on them 6 chips each.
Here is a graph I made
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In every system there is a pattern or in other words a bad fluxuation of the outcomes that can kill the syetem....
Every experienced roulette explorer can imediatelly identify the losing pattern of any system without having to test it....
The amazing thing with this system is that it doesn't have a losing pattern !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It can t lose....there is no hole in it !!!!!!!!!!!
It is adapting any any circomstance !!!!
The number of the unit streets + the number of the betted chips on them it is the power of it.
If this is NOT the mathematical H.G then no system on planet will ever be !
MAD MAX please make an excel tracker on the natural LINES...
If this system is a winner I will be play it on the natural Lines as it needs less BR and it will be recovering in less spins.
Ps . with this system we don t even have to check if we re in a a new Profit for making a reset!
We do not reseting anything because we are just folowing the simple rules of the system !!!
I truly beliave that If this system can t win on the long run then nothing can !
How it is adapting?
The more streets we have to bet the more chips we have on them.
The less streets we have to bet the less chips we have on them.
Randomness can NOT bring the same streets outcomes for ever !!!
In some point the unhit steets will have to hit !
So the worst situation we are having(by betting more streets) the more money we are making...
And the less streets we are betting(less numbers so less chances to win) the less chips we have on them.
I reall y can t see any hole in the system symetry......
With an unlimited BR I beleave we can win on the long run....
What we need is to test it in 1.000.000 spins to see the worst down so to be able to see how much BR we need to be safe !
I know that I am sayng BIG words! But I am really exited :)
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How it is adapting?
The more streets we have to bet the more chips we have on them.
The less streets we have to bet the less chips we have on them.
Randomness can NOT bring the same streets outcomes for ever !!!
In some point the unhit steets will have to hit !
So the worst situation we are having(by betting more streets) the more money we are making...
And the less streets we are betting(less numbers so less chances to win) the less chips we have on them.
I reall y can t see any hole in the system symetry......
With an unlimited BR I beleave we can win on the long run....
What we need is to test it in 1.000.000 spins to see the worst down so to be able to see how much BR we need to be safe !
I know that I am sayng BIG words! But I am really exited :)
Hello RE
What happened to the system that you just posted about streets?
Cant you see that this is very similar in concept.
I tested the other one and it really looked good in the beginning (read my posts)
but in the end it really did not work.
If you want a really good street system wait for 6 unique streets to hit. Its your trigger.
Then wait for 2 NEW streets to hit and ONE repeat of those or 1 NEW and 2 repeats of it or more rarely 3 NEW ones - this represents 3 virtual losses.
You start then betting on THE ORIGINAL 6 UNIQUE streets using 1,2,4,8 progression.
I have never seen longer sequence than 7 spins without a hit on the original 6 ones.
I think that u can even safely reduce your progression here to only 3 steps.
You risk 42u to win 6u. This is my tweak of just straight betting on 6 unique streets.
JL also posted similar system (Pattern 7?) - i do not remember the name. ;D
And i saw 12 unique streets to hit but you are immune to it if you go 4 steps.
What can hurt you are repeats in the new streets and occasional 0. (you can cover that) But i like win to risk ratio.
Regards
Î¥eah this one looks like your other one system which i had coded.When i go home i'll change the code and retest it just to see!
Hi RouletteExplorer!
I´m glad if I can make a little contribution to your new idea, which also looks very promising. :thumbsup:
So here is the tracker you asked for. I´ve included 2 sheets into the workbook. Almost the same. The first one is called "Double Streets", tracking the last 6 spins for unhit double streets, the 2nd one is called "Streets", tracking for the streets for 12 spins. I hope, I understood you right with natural lines you ment double streets? Otherwise please tell me and I will change the tracker. (Sorry, but English is not my native language).
If I can help otherwise in any kind, please let me know.
Cheers and good luck to all.
@ Robeenhuut
It is good idea my friend. And it is winner. I know that. But before you and JL maybe, there is a man who published system based on this observation some time ago. Little different, with adding every unhit street after 6 uniques.
link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=5113.msg51032#msg51032 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=5113.msg51032#msg51032)
Regards
Drazen
I´ve also run a little manual test with this system on the streets.
I took the first 400 numbers of iggiv´s thread with german casino spins.
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Spins: 399
Highest BR: +255
Lowest BR: -190
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Wins: 140 (longest run 4 wins, 2x)
Losses: 247 (longest run 7 losses, 3x)
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I also see, that the bet selection is the same as in your previous system, but these must not be a bad thing. I for myself come more and more to the conclusion, that betselections are only secundary. In my opinion, the MM is almost more important (of course both must work together).
I´m looking forward to xxlakis´test to see how this system performes in a longer run.
How about this: wait 15 spins for exactly 4 unhit streets and do an 8 step progression:
1 1 2 3 4 6 9 14
Takes longer to find a trigger but have shorter extremes.
Jeromin
Robeenhuut The bet selection is the same as my previous system you are right.
But the MM is completely different.
So this makes it to be a total different system than the previous one and not the same.
xxlakis Thanks .I will be very glad to see the results of your testing!
MadMax Yes u got the idea of the natural lines correct. Thanks for the excel trackers.
Keep in mind that the bet selection of this system is very important ...not because the bets will hit earlier and more often(because if that was the case we could win by flat betting) but because we are letting roulette to tell us where,how many and how much to bet!
Thank you also for the graph that you posted!
Jeromin with your way its a total different system...your system is limited and it can t adapt anything! If those streets will sleep its dead.
I continued the testing from the spin that I was in the previous graph.
In some point it went preety down and I thought that it will never recover!
But It adapted the circomstances once more and it got in new profit.
The recovery and new profit came in 200 spins...so by betting the LINES(DSTREETS) its 100 spins...so it playable in a real casino....sometimes we have to play 40 spins and leave , but there will be some rare times that we need to play up to 100 spins....this is something that I can stand .
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For this system, to lose it needs a very bad COMPLEX pattern to be happening for a lottttttttttt of spins.....and even if this will happen the downs can never be rapid.
So this leaves the option of the hit and run that some of you like in here ;D
The other good thing about the system is that the bet selection and the MM plan is completely MECHANICAL....this means that you can stop and go to have a drink or toilet and at the moment you will come back you instantly know where and much to bet no matter what has happened on the spins that you didn t bet....it doesn't rely on the previous wins and loses!!!
I m still testing and I see that indeed we can t have rapid downs , but sometimes its very hard to be in a new profit and it can take 300 spins to be in a new profit....
so even if its a long run winner I don t know if it is playable.....
The 1mill test will say everything we need to know.........
RE
"3)We are betting ALL the UNHIT streets with so many chips as the NUMBER of the UNHIT STREETS !
e.g.. 4 Unhit streets ...so we are betting 4 chips on the 4 unhit streets.
eg2. 3 unhit streets ...so we are betting 3 chips on the 3 unhit streets.
4)As the spins are passing , new UNHIT streets will showing and some betted streets will be HIT(win)."
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I was doing some testing and have a quick one:
say you're betting 4 unhit streets and the others streets continue repeating. do we continue flat betting the same 4 unhit with 4u in each street (losing 16u per spin) or is there some caveats?!....
vundarosa
the way of the system is this : we continue flat betting the same 4 unhit with 4u in each street
now if you have a better idea say it.
I have now tested the same numbers as I did in the upper test with double streets. Here the result looks not so pretty.
Here the statistic:
Spins: 391
Highest BR: +67
Lowest BR: -118
End BR: -34
Wins: 131
Losses: 254
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I guess, the lower payout and the fact, that sleepers influence this game much more than on the street leads to this effect. ???
Starting BR ?
what would be u best guess for a starting BR then MadMax? ???
200?
Hi Chris! I started both tests with 0.
Which BR? Sorry, I really don´t know. As you can see in my first test with streets and in the second graph RouletteExplorer showed us, the drawdowns can be worser than 200 (seen from the top of the graphs). So I would wait for much longer tests to figure out an acceptable BR, which xxlakis maybe will show us later.
RouletteExplorer, what BR would you suggest for this system so far?
Every system with that has progressions like these(eg. T.Genius possible H.G) when we are trying to adapt in in lower payout bets its losing more....
So this means as GLC says that the systemwill not work in the other payout bets too. :-\
Quote from: RouletteExplorer on Oct 01, 01:23 PM 2011
Every system with that has progressions like these(e.g.. T.Genius possible H.G) when we are trying to adapt in in lower payout bets its losing more....
So this means as GLC says that the systemwill not work in the other payout bets too. :-\
Sorry RE
Win to lose ratio here is not high enough. Few streets can sleep for too long time in order to make it viable in the long run. Not enough testing yet done. I actually liked your previous system more. Less risk and more reward.
Regards
QuoteSo this means as GLC says that the systemwill not work in the other payout bets too.
RouletteExplorer, sadly you and GLC are right. I have written a small programm to simulate the system over 93877 spins and it ended with a loss of 49366 units, started with 0 unit. I´ve checked the first 50 outcomes manually to exclude errors in the code, but there were identical. :(
I´ve attached the graph of the first 7000 spins.
I´m really sorry about that (not only for you, for me also ;D)
So let´s keep on trying! ;)
Thanks Mad Max.
It is sure by now that its a loser...
so lets move to the next idea :)
Too bad; I really got my hopes up on this one. All of my tests must have been on upswings. Is it really a lost cause? What if we only bet when there are a certain minimum number of unhit streets? Like 4 or more?
"""" What if we only bet when there are a certain minimum number of unhit streets? """""
This is just a classic gambling fallacy my friend... it will also fail.
Take ur attention out off this system and let s make better one. :)
Yes you're right; I've just done the math. Che peccato.
you better off in my opinion betting on hot street etc than betting on something that hasnt shown as we know when playing red/black an even chance can sleep for ages