Hello. I will here claim a very controversial issue that sure is going to upset a few.
Anyhow after playing Roulette for some Years almost 8 hours every Day,(not that long as some out there) I have noticed the Game is not that Random as stated.
I will give You all an example of my opinion here:
There are Numbers that in particular generates BLACK within 4 spins and they're all located in the 3rd Column. Here is one of them:
Observation based on 3000 LIVE Spins is as followed:
After 27 a BLACK Number hit on spin:
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2nd: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
3rd: xxxxxxxxx
4th: xxx
5th<: xxxxxxxx
Now, there is a Reason for this behaviour, and it is because the Cycles, Trends, Hellsessions, are all part of a TIME-based algorithm in the Game. Everything works like Clockwork. It is up to Us to find that TIME-algorithm. First then it is possible to win consistently.
Cheers!
RNG counted out?
I did a quick couple of spins, and 27 came up 4 times.
2 of the times followed by black and the other 2 red.
But I agree, I don't think it's all that random!
Regards,
M
Quote from: Maui13 on Aug 06, 05:39 AM 2010
RNG counted out?
I did a quick couple of spins, and 27 came up 4 times.
2 of the times followed by black and the other 2 red.
But I agree, I don't think it's all that random!
Regards,
M
RNG is NOT, i repeat for the 1000th time, NOT Roulette! Dont even bring that up with me. You may as well give your money to a poor.
Cheers!
Quote from: Compa on Aug 06, 06:35 AM 2010
RNG is NOT, I repeat for the 1000th time, NOT Roulette! don't even bring that up with me. You may as well give your money to a poor.
Cheers!
100% Agree !
YES..please people Do not mention RNG!!!! RNG is not roulette it is slots!!!!\
But I do not agree with Compas Observation....what you saw was just something that happened in these 3.000 spins...ther isn t any reason why this to be happening...and the reasons that u have posted they just aren t reasons!
But thank you for the post...we must all help each other with new ideas!
Interesting discovery! ran it through almost 10,000 live spins.....
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@ Compa
QuoteThere are Numbers that in particular generates BLACK within 4 spins and they're all located in the 3rd Column. Here is one of them:
Observation based on 3000 LIVE Spins is as followed:
After 27 a BLACK Number hit on spin:
I did a quick test with my real played numbers and mostly there was a hit on the first spin after
27!!
Which other numbers of the third column did you see similar to the 27?
Best regards
kawa4711
Quote from: Compa on Aug 06, 05:20 AM 2010
Hello. I will here claim a very controversial issue that sure is going to upset a few.
Anyhow after playing Roulette for some Years almost 8 hours every Day,(not that long as some out there) I have noticed the Game is not that Random as stated.
I will give You all an example of my opinion here:
There are Numbers that in particular generates BLACK within 4 spins and they're all located in the 3rd Column. Here is one of them:
Observation based on 3000 LIVE Spins is as followed:
After 27 a BLACK Number hit on spin:
1st: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
2nd: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
3rd: xxxxxxxxx
4th: xxx
5th<: xxxxxxxx
Now, there is a Reason for this behaviour, and it is because the Cycles, Trends, Hellsessions, are all part of a TIME-based algorithm in the Game. Everything works like Clockwork. It is up to Us to find that TIME-algorithm. First then it is possible to win consistently.
Cheers!
what other Triggers have you found as well as 27 ?
Thanx for your info ;D !
Quote from: LeoVonLioN on Aug 09, 03:18 PM 2010
Interesting discovery! ran it through almost 10,000 live spins.....
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Are you saying Black always hit within 8 spins of the 27 Trigger ?
Quote from: Twisteruk on Aug 09, 04:14 PM 2010
Are you saying Black always hit within 8 spins of the 27 Trigger ?
That's right, strange thing really, I was sure i'd see it go past 10+ because at dublinbet where I got the numbers from, I usually see long streaks of blacks/reds but after #27 it just dos'nt happen (yet) ???
I wonder if the result would be much different just picking any number at random. will git it a go..........
Checked back through 600 spins and it never went passed spin 6.
I have a very large spin file and just checking the first 1000 spins(in addition to the above 600) it went to spin 8 just once and won it... 8)
I chose #20 at random and kept track of a red hit after. not much of a test because it's my bed time.
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I ve tested it further with my real played spins an d it looks pretty good.
I ve tested it with a progression (D Alembert):
Trigger is 27, then bet 1 after a loss 2, stop
When there is a loss after the 2 bet wait for another 27, then bet 3 if there is a loss then bet 4 stop and so on . . . .
There is a little problem, one has to wait for a lot of spins for the next trigger (27).
So to know the other triggers in the third column (like 27) would be helpful to shorten the games.
With best regards
kawa4711
Well ive found it ok so far ;D
I play my usual System and if 27 hits I put Ã,£50 on Black, so far Im 3/3 on the first Spin. Cant be bad !
I guess if you just want 50 Units a day, its a funn way to do it !
I think other triggers can be found in different bets in Compa's section. Reason why it should win is crucial here for finding out Compa's winning way. Still mystery for me...
Some of Compa's quotes:
"Hello . Here is the Holy Grail for You who Like to play R/B:
Ooohhhhhhh nooooo. Another Moron with another Holy Grail...You say...LMAO.
Well,, properly tested for 3000 spins, never exceeded 4 spins (can we do a Martin here?)
Merry Christmas Y'all!
3.12.21.30.9.18.27.36 = Triggers for RED. Hits after 4 spins Max
6.15.24.33 = Triggers for BLACK. Hits after 4 spins Max
Meanwhile You waiting,, play H/L + 2 Doublestreets for a Dummybet = +2 units..
Cheeers!"
"The Figure 3 and 9 is all RED Numbers. The Figure 6 is all BLACK Numbers.
3.6.9, The Key of Time rules the Roulette. So it decides the outcome in the Column 1 and 2.
Figure 3: 3.12.21.30
Figure 9: 9.18.27.36
Figure 6: 6.15.24.33
So when we see any Number in Figure 3 Or 9, bet RED. If hit on R on 1st spin, stop and retrack.
Same Procedure with Figure 6.
If I get:
12
15
I continue bet on the 12 Key. If Win on RED, I follow the 15 Key and bet BLACK.
Look out for the 2 Mainpatterns and exploit them if possible:
RBR/BRB and RRBB/BBRR(the terrible twos)"
"I never follow a Timekey more than 4 spins. If it goes LLLL I wait for another Key.
cheers!"
"There should be 30x100 spins. You need to win 29 out of these 30 sessions."
"So what I did was just instead of betting RED on a RED Trigger, I did bet BLACK. And instead of BLACK on a BLACK Trigger I did bet RED. So with this strategy I got 24 sessions won and 6 lost.
on my 3000 Live Spins from my local Casino. Still not good enough though. I would have accepted 25 wins and 5 lost.
However there is a reason why these Numbers triggers the Colors. I will not elaborate on it though because it will take too long. And when it comes to E/O, yes, there is a Formula for an integration also. But that is still to be investigated. So You have to be satisified with R/B "only" for now, LoL. I have some additional Info though: Number 6 BLACK almost ALWAYS calls BLACK.
And NUmber 12 almost ALWAYS calls RED."
This is only a small portion of Compa's posts/hints.
I would recommend reading his section.
Im now 4/4 lol
R27 then Black 4 times on Spin 1 !
Will post as and when a R27 pops up as I play :)
lol this is bizzare
Im now 5/5
All one on Spin 1 !!
3.12= RED
These 2 Numbers exceeded a win within 4 spins only 10 times in 3000 spins.
So statistically there is one Lose each 300th spin..LoL
This all sounds very good compa. . .
So which numbers are your triggers? the full 3rd column? or just certain numbers?
Quote from: Fraudster on Aug 12, 09:50 AM 2010
This all sounds very good compa. . .
So which numbers are your triggers? the full 3rd column? or just certain numbers?
The 3rd Column rules the Game of Roulette. Everything that happens is based on the Outcome in this Column. All Numbers has a function here, yes. In order for You to investigate this on your own, This is what you must look for:
Timekey 3 = Timekey 6 = Timekey 9 = Timekey 3.
Timekey 6 = Timekey 9 = Timekey 3 = Timekey 6
Timekey 9 = Timekey 3 = Timekey 6 = Timekey 9
Look at this Rotation of the Roulette. Study this Carefully and You will make discoverys.
Cheers.
How you define rotation?
My Best Regards
Quote from: Compa on Aug 11, 05:09 PM 2010
3.12= RED
These 2 Numbers exceeded a win within 4 spins only 10 times in 3000 spins.
So statistically there is one Lose each 300th spin..LoL
Also...
How many times did 3-12 appear in those 3000 spins?
Did 3-12 hit much more than expected (about 80 times each)?
Because if that is the case, the result is actually even with a simple prog (like 1-2-4-8)!
My Best Regards
You go into the Casino. You see 27. You bet BLACK and Win. You wait for another 27. You repeat the procedure for any other numbers that win. And You win. Simple as that. Im not interested in Math because it has nothing to do with the Game. And ODDS can not be beaten either. Which is the same as Math. So look at the Game, not the ODDS.
Over and Out.
Thank You
???
I am just asking some info about your test...
I think it important factor to tell us how many "attacks" you did with 3-12 in those 3000 spins.
My Best Regards
Great insights Compa - I agree with your opinion on RNG being fixed - can I ask if you think this will work on airball or does this theory only apply to dealer wheels?
Cheers!
Akiraa
Ive found it works fine on Air ball (i prefer them tbh) :thumbsup:
Quote from: mogwai on Aug 18, 01:26 PM 2010
???
I am just asking some info about your test...
I think it important factor to tell us how many "attacks" you did with 3-12 in those 3000 spins.
My Best Regards
First. I have already presented the requirements to a eventual wins.
Second: Look Mogwai. It seems like You does not have tha ability to look at the Game in a "non-logical way". (a subjective reflection) And due to that we are on different levels when it comes to communication. So in order to get answers to your questions, please ask our fellow posters in this thread.
Thank You
Cheers!
"So in order to get answers to your questions, please ask our fellow posters in this thread."
And again... ???
How can I ask other people for info and results about the 3000 spins test YOU committed??? Or what do YOU mean with the term rotations???
When people ask something, it is not necessarily because they want to discredit you or anything like that, it is often because they are just trying to learn something new and perhaps useful. Please keep that in mind.
Anyway Just forget I've ever asked...
Thank you
2845 spins from spielbanken wiesbaden. Table 3 & 4. 16/17/18/19 august 2009. After 27 place one bet on black.
Wins 48
Losses 32
Question for Compa, why does black hit after a 27. What different is 27 in order to the other numbers?
Quote from: JHM on Aug 20, 01:47 PM 2010
2845 spins from spielbanken wiesbaden. Table 3 & 4. 16/17/18/19 august 2009. After 27 place one bet on black.
Wins 48
Losses 32
Question for Compa, why does black hit after a 27. What different is 27 in order to the other numbers?
THESE THINGS ONLY COMPA AND ME KNOW.
MAN GAVE YOU FREE INCOME AND YOU DARE TO ASK THE QUESTIONS.
TEST,PLAY,THEN YOU WILL COME TO YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS.iboba
Iboba,
What does my question has to do with dare? Is is that strange? You're acting like I can't ask questions here. And next to that the question was for compa not for you. So please calm down, nobody is hurting you.
Quote from: JHM on Aug 20, 02:43 PM 2010
Iboba,
What does my question has to do with dare? Is is that strange? You're acting like I can't ask questions here. And next to that the question was for compa not for you. So please calm down, nobody is hurting you.
You are taking it very serious.Dare means.......find out it for your self...do some researches and work on it....but since you wouldn't give up your job for a game of chances/I remember your words,that you have said this/...as said the man gave you a clue,you work on it further.Asking Compa is same as asking me.Amen
Ofcourse it does.
Just tested with RNG spins and live spins. Guess what? RNG did better! LoL
RNG spins. +243 units in 1000000 spins.
Live spins. -11 units in 412707 spins.
Attached bankroll and bets.
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Quote from: JHM on Aug 20, 01:47 PM 2010
2845 spins from spielbanken wiesbaden. Table 3 & 4. 16/17/18/19 august 2009. After 27 place one bet on black.
Wins 48
Losses 32
Question for Compa, why does black hit after a 27. What different is 27 in order to the other numbers?
Hi JHM. Concerning your question. It would take to long to explain WHY 27 together with some other numbers hits more often within 4 spins consistently than others. There is absolutly a reason for it. Now, if You and everyone else who reads this are interested in Why, please visit :.numerisenvoys.com (link:://:.numerisenvoys.com) and read every topic available about the Numeris concept .
And once and for all. There is absolutely NO benefit in presenting a roulettemethod over an amount of 10-100.000 spins. Its just redicoulus. And regular to expect that the Game would not lose! Of course it can lose. However, What I am trying to say to you Noobs that hasn't contributed with anything else than critisism to this Topic of mine, is: Certain movements on the Wheel/Table based on what I am talking about is ment to be used as a guidance to determine WHERE and WHEN to bet. 3000 spins and 29 100 spins sessions won out of 30 is enough, not more not less, to get a picture of what is happening. Even when You are NOT in the Casino! Despite of all this it can still Lose of course! But it will ALWAYS win more than it loses. Try to get that into your Heads.
Also, Iboba has been a proPlayer and a dealer for 27 years(!!!!) So try to open your ears and listen/learn something and contribute, instead of braggin about "its not working"bla bla bla.
Cheers!
Just did a quick test on my last recorded 1200 spins (airball wheel), 27 came up 34 times. Black came up within 4 spins only on 30 occasions:
10 times on first spin
11 times on second spin
5 times on third spin
4 times on fourth spin
So overall it's a loser for me: at Ã,£5 a unit and using a 1-2-4-8 progression, I would have won Ã,£150 and lost Ã,£300, leaving me with -Ã,£150. I'll leave this one alone...
Yes do so if you want to keep your money. We are noobs because we don't understand why black has a greater chance to hit after number 27 has shown.
Compa
If you are so certain, why not explain why and stop this "war of words" we have here? Some may understand and some don't, it isn't harder than that.
Are we useing a 00 or o wheel I wish people would say in the beginning 00 or 0 whe
Roulette forum should add a check box indicator for 00 or 0 wheel systems???????
SINGLE ZERO ONLY!.
Cheers!
--En Prison rules the best--
For these who have access to it.
Google;Roulette En Prison tables world wide.
Many of these around in EU,even in USA and Macau.
Hi Iboba,
Yes we have french roulette here with the in prison rule. So the way is only to play EC's on tables like this you think?
Br. JHM
Quote from: JHM on Sep 05, 05:43 AM 2010
Hi Iboba,
Yes we have french roulette here with the in prison rule. So the way is only to play EC's on tables like this you think?
Br. JHM
Its must who have access to it.It is bit slow....and you only lose your stake
in case 2 zeros hit in the row.