Here is a old one, a reel classical for the even chances.
The principal of tracking is 1/3. You write down the result in lines of 3.
The bet selection is to catch series of 4. There is 2 patterns that we are going to use.
The first pattern: RBR BRB - this pattern alternate for 3 times and we will play that they will continue to do so for 4 times.
(link:://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2295/rbramp3.jpg)
So this is how it would look - if we playing to catch series of 4 from the patterns that have alternating for 3 times:
(link:://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6184/rbrcvp1.jpg)
The second pattern RRR BBB a serie of 3 and we will play that they continue to become 4 in a row.
(link:://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2010/rrramz3.jpg)
So this is how it would look - if we playing to catch series of 4 from the patterns that is a serie of 3:
(link:://img81.imageshack.us/img81/8383/rrrcfs6.jpg)
Now lets take a look at it whit a reel permanence, a short sample... First we are going to see how it perform using the first pattern only - RBR and BRB...
BRR
RRR
BRR
BRB
RBR W
BBB
BBR
BBB
BRB
BRR L
RBB
BBB
RBR
BRB W
RBR W
BBR W
BRR
RRR
BBR
BRB
BBB L
BRB
BRR L
RBR
RBB L
BBR
RRR
RBR
RRR L
RRR
RBB
RRB
BBB
BBR
BRR
RBR
BBB W
BRR
RBB
BBR
BRR
BRR
RBR
RRR L
RBB
RBB
BBB
BBB
BRB
RRR W
RRB
RRR
RBR
BRB W
RRB
BBR
RRR
BBB
RBR
BBR W
RBB
BBB
BRR
BRB
RBR W
Lets take a short example of the second pattern RRR and BBB...
BRR
RRR
BRR L
BRB
RBR
BBB
BBR W
BBB
BRB W
BRR
RBB
BBB
RBR L
BRB
RBR
BBR
BRR
RRR
BBR L
BRB
BBB
BRB W
BRR
RBR
RBB
BBR
RRR
RBR W
RRR
RRR W
RBB W
RRB
BBB
BBR W
BRR
RBR
BBB
BRR W
RBB
BBR
BRR
BRR
RBR
RRR
RBB W
RBB
BBB
BBB W
BRB
RRR
RRB W
RRR
RBR W
BRB
RRB
BBR
RRR
BBB L
RBR
BBR
RBB
Now we are going to use bout and see what happens...
BRR
RRR
BRR L
BRB
RBR w
BBB
BBR W
BBB
BRB W
BRR L
RBB
BBB
RBR L
BRB W
RBR
BBR W
BRR
RRR
BBR L
BRB
BBB L
BRB W
BRR
RBR
RBB L
BBR
RRR
RBR W
RRR L
RRR W
RBB W
RRB
BBB
BBR W
BRR
RBR
BBB W
BRR W
RBB
BBR
BRR
BRR
RBR
RRR L
RBB W
RBB
BBB
BBB W
BRB
RRR W
RRB W
RRR
RBR W
BRB W
RRB
BBR
RRR
BBB L
RBR
BBR W
RBB
BBB
BRR W
BRB
RBR W
RBR
RBR L
BBB
RBB L
RRR
BRR L
RBR
BRB W
RRB
BBR
RRB
RBR
BRB W
RBB
RRR
BBR L
BRB
BBR L
RRR
RBR W
BBB
RBB L
RRB
RBB
RRR
RBR W
BBB
RBB L
RBR
RBR L
BBR
RBB
BBB
BBR W
RRR
RBB W
BBR
RRB
Sounds good to me.
Here is an example with some spins from spielbank-wiesbaden.de :
Flat bet for this test.
BBB
RBB L +1
RRR
RRB W 0
BRB
BRR L -1
RRR
BRB L -2
BRB L -3
BBB L -4
BBR W -3
RBB
RRB
RBB
BBR
RBR
BBR W -2
RRR
RBR W -1
RRB L -2
RRR
BBB L -3
BBR W-2
RBB
RRR
RBB W -1
RRR
RBR W 0
RRR L -1
RRR W 0
RBB W +1
BBR
RBR
BBR W +2
BRR
RRB
BBR
RRB
RRR
BBR L +1
RBR
BRR W +2
RBB
BBB
RBB L +1
BRB
RRB W +2
BBB
BRB W +3
BRR
BBB
BBR W +4
BBB
BRB W +5
RBR W +6
BBR W +7
RRR
RBR W +8
BRR W +9
RRR
RRR W +10
RBB W +11
BBR
BRR
RRB
BBB
B W +12
Final : + 12 units
Note : finish with 11 straight wins ;)
Another test : same conditions.
RBB
RBB
RRR
BBR L -1
BRB
RRB W 0
RBR
BRB W +1
RRB W +2
BRB
BRR
BBB
BRB W +3
RBR W +4
BBB W +5
BRB W +6
RRB W +7
BRB
BRB L +6
BBB L +5
RBB L +4
BBB
RBR L +3
RBR L +2
RRR L +1
RBB W +2
BRR
BRB
RRB W +3
BBR
RBB
RRB
RRB
BRR
RRR
BBB L +2
RRB L +1
BRR
BRR
BBR
RRR
RBB W +2
BRB
RBB W +3
BRR
BRB
RRB W +4
BRR
BRB
BBB L +3
BBR W +4
RRB
RRB
BBB
BRB W +5
BRB L +4
BRB L +3
RRR W +4
RRB W +5
BBB
BRB W +6
BRB L +5
BRB L +4
RRR W +5
RRB W +6
BBB
RBB L +5
RRR
BRR L +4
RBB
BRR
RRR
RBB W +5
RRB
BBB
RRR L +4
BBB L +2,5 (zero before L)
BBR W +3,5
RRR
RBR W +4,5
RRR L +3,5
BRB L +2,5
RBB W +3,5
RRB
RRR
BRR L +2,5
Final : +2,5 units
Win target could be useful.
Jordan69 - nice that you find this topic ...
I would just not recommend you playing it.
Cheers
Ok Ego.
Thanks for the advice.
Cheers.
Another test :
RBR
RBB L -1
BBR
RRB
BBB
BBB W 0
BRR W +1
BBB
BBB W +2
RBB L +1
BBB
RRR L 0
BRB L -1
RRR W 0
BRB L -1
RBR W 0
BRB W +1
RRR W +2
RBR W +3
BRR W +4
RBR
BRB W +5
BBB L +4
BBR W +5
RRR
BRB L +4
RRR W +5
BRB L +4
RBB W +5
BBB
BRR W +6
RRB
BRR
RRR
RRR W +7
RBR W +8
RBB L +7
RBB
BBB
BBB W + 7,5 (Zero before W)
BBB W + 8,5
BRB W +9,5
BBR L +8,5
BBR
RBR
BBB W + 9,5
RRR L +8,5
RBR W + 9,5
RRB L +8,5
BRB
BRB W +9,5
BRB L + 8,5
B L +7,5
Final : +7,5 units
Nice ;)
Jordan
Sorry! Asked question then found answer.
Sam
ego
Please delete!!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Hi Sam,
I made some tests, quite easy to do as i used flat bet.
Nice results so far.
What do u think ?
Sure you have some ideas ;)
Cheers.
Jordan69
Quote from: ego on Sep 08, 05:11 PM 2012
Jordan69 - nice that you find this topic ...
I would just not recommend you playing it.
Cheers
If I may ask, why dont you recommend playing it?
jordan69 is having great results
i did a quick test and had similar results as him
Quote from: soggett on Sep 12, 03:43 AM 2012
If I may ask, why don't you recommend playing it?
jordan69 is having great results
i did a quick test and had similar results as him
It's Ego way....he doesn't gamble and don't advise others to do so.
He just only gives you food for thoughts,further it's up to you.
Fair enough.
"jordan69 is having great results
i did a quick test and had similar results as him"
Thanks Soggett !
Nice to see some mates on this topic :)
Another test (still from spielbank-wiesbaden.de)
European roulette (single zero)
BBB
BRR W +1
BBR
BBB
BBR W +2
BRR
BBR
BRR
BRB
RRR W +3
RBR W +4
RBB L +3
RRR
RRR W +4
BBR L +3
RBB
RRR
RBR W +4
BRR W +5
BRR
BRB
RBR W +6
RRR L +5
RRB W +6
RRR
RBR W +7
RBR L +6
RBR L +5
RBR L +4
RRB L +3
BBR
RBB
BBR
BRB
BBB L +2
RBB L +1
RRR
RBB W +2
RRB
RRR
RRB W +3
RBR
BRR W +4
BBR
RBR
BRB W +5
RRR W +6
BBB L +5
BBR W +6
BBB
RRR L +5
RRB W +6
RBR
RBB L + 4,5 (Zero before L)
RBB
RRR
BBB L + 3 (Zero before L)
BBR W +4
BBB
RRB L + 2,5 (Zero before L)
BBB
BRB W +3,5
BBR L +2,5
BRB
BBR L + 1,5
BBB
BRB W +2,5
R W +3,5
Final: + 3,5 units
Note : 1,5 units lost because of the green... No way to escape >:D
Hi jordon69.
Like this concept,going to back-test spins from B+M live/airball.
Will report back when a few sessions have been completed.
Great simple work from you and ego.
Many Thanks.
Dino.
Thanks Dino.
I appreciate your help.
Best regards.
Jordan69
This is how you can speed up the testing.
Go to random org and pick numbers and pick advance.
Then you make the settings to 1024 trails and output 1 and 2 (same as red and black) also make the setting into lines of three.
You can download files up to 10.000 trails each and 100.000 trails in total each day.
Paste and copy does into a txt document and save the file with name and date.
This is how it looks like ...
122
221
121
221
111
211
Now you can also play this reverse.
Aim for series not to become four in a row.
122
111
122 L
221
121
222 L
121 W
212 L
212 W
111 L
222 W
221 L
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Sep 12, 03:49 AM 2012
It's Ego way....he doesn't gamble and don't advise others to do so.
He just only gives you food for thoughts,further it's up to you.
Fair enough.
I hope you are right, cause the results are looking pretty ok, for now at least
Quote from: jordan69 on Sep 12, 10:54 AM 2012
"jordan69 is having great results
i did a quick test and had similar results as him"
Thanks Soggett !
Nice to see some mates on this topic :)
now imagine doing all 3 EC's at the same time, aiming for 5 units or so?
wonderful
by the way, shouldnt we take the 0 as a loss and write that line 0RB?
not betting the next spin and waiting for the next trigger?
Quote from: soggett on Sep 13, 04:29 AM 2012
I hope you are right, cause the results are looking pretty ok, for now at least
My dear friend sogget.
I am not sure what you expect here to be honest. Every bet selection just by itself is the same.
If you think with one or another system you won't hit nasty DD-s you are very wrong. You will. Analog to that , with this also...
So you can play this as Flat plays every bet, with realy enormous bankroll and just fire from machine gun, and if so be ready to have full tanker of ammunition behind you (or even two haha)...
Or you can search some deviations like Marigny and attack very carefuly when correction starts. But even with that you still need good bank and special "attack modes" because correction can sometimes hover and take a while when it realy starts to unfold.. In other words that also doesn't wins just by itself...
Cheers mate
Drazen
RRB
BBB
BRB W +1
BRR L 0
BRR
RBR
BBB W +1
RBB L 0
RBB
RBR
RBB L -1
BBR
RRB
RRB
BRB
RRB L -2
BBR
RBB
BBR
BBB
BBB W -1
BRR W 0
RRR
RBR W +1
BRR W +2
RRB
BRR
BRB
RBB W +3
BRB
BBR L +2
BBB
BRR W +3
BRB
BBR L +2
RRR
BBR L +1
RRB
RBR
RRB L 0
RRR
BBR L -1
BRR
RRB
BBR
BRB
BBB L -2
RRB L -3
RBR
BRB W -2
BBB L -3
RRR L -4
RBB W -3
RBB
BRR
RBB
RRR
BBB L -4
RBB L -5
BRB
RBB L -6
BBR
RBR
BRR W -5
RRB
BRB
RBB W -4
RRB
BRB
BRR L -5
BRB
BBR L -6
BBR
BBR
RBR
RBR L -7
RBB L -8
RRR
RRB W -7
RBB
RBB
RBB
RRR
BBB L -8
BBR W -7
BBR
BRR
BRB
RRR W -6
RRB W -5
RRB
RBR
RBB L -6
RBR
RBB L -7
BBB
RBR L -8,5 (Zero before L)
BBB W -7,5
BBB W -6,5
BBB W -5,5
RBB L -6,5
RRB
RRR
BBB L -7?,5
RBR L -8,5
BBR W -7,5
RRB
RBR
RBB L - 8,5
BBB
RBB L -9,5
BBB
RRR L -10,5
RRB W -9,5
BBB
RBB L -10,5
BBB
BBB W -9,5
RBB L -10,5
BRR
BBR
RRB
BRB
BRB L -11,5
BRR L -12,5
BRB
BRR L -13,5
RRB
RBR
RRB L - 15 (Zero before L)
BRR
RBR
R L -16
Final : - 16 units
Bad session. No way to recover.
I was ready to see this kind of result, so no surprise...
Regards.
Jordan69
Quote from: drazen_cro on Sep 13, 04:51 AM 2012
My dear friend sogget.
I am not sure what you expect here to be honest. Every bet selection just by itself is the same.
If you think with one or another system you won't hit nasty DD-s you are very wrong. You will. Analog to that , with this also...
So you can play this as Flat plays every bet, with realy enormous bankroll and just fire from machine gun, and if so be ready to have full tanker of ammunition behind you (or even two haha)...
Or you can search some deviations like Marigny and attack very carefuly when correction starts. But even with that you still need good bank and special "attack modes" because correction can sometimes hover and take a while when it realy starts to unfold.. In other words that also doesn't wins just by itself...
Cheers mate
Drazen
hello my friend
well you know me, always on the lookout for new stuff :)
especially if it is balanced
I just like trying systems that appeal to me, that's all
I know all the systems are the same, and the DD's are bound to happen
with a large BR and a resonable stop-loss - youre set to go ;) no matter what you play
Well my friend just dont search too much if you want realy to earn something. You could stuck in that cycle of search that way... and never find what you are looking for.
My advice is to start filling that tankers ballast tanks with money so when storm comes that cant sink your ship. That is mr Flatino-s way, and he has spent 40 years in casinos world wide. That is the only right way as he says if you decide for that kind of play...
You can also search for an edge in few ways but belive me it is darn hard...
It is up to you, but dont become like some members that even after decades of searching still didnt able to check their ticket for winnig seat in this game..... One way or another. No matter in which class they aim to be...
All the best to you
Drazen
I find a new way to deal with the principal of 1/3 ...
If some one interested i can explain it.
1 2 2
1 1 2 W
1 2 1 W
2 1 2 W
2 2 1 W
2 1 2 W
1 2 2 L
2 1 2 L
2 2 2 W
2 2 2 L
1 1 1 L
1 2 2 W
2 2 2 W
1 2 1 W
2 2 1 W
1 2 2 W
2 2 2 W
2 1 1 W
2 1 2 L W
2 1 1 L
2 1 2 L
2 2 2
1 1 1 L
1 1 1 L
2 1 2 W
1 1 2 W
1 1 1 L
1 2 1 W
1 2 2 L
2 2 1 W
1 1 1 L W
1 1 2 L
1 1 2 L
2 2 2
1 2 1 W
1 1 1 W
2 1 2 W
2 1 2 L L
2 1 1 L W
2 1 1 L
2 1 1
1 1 2 W
2 1 2 W
2 1 1 L
2 1 2 L
1 1 1 W
2 1 1 W
2 1 1 L
1 2 1 L
2 2 2 W
1 1 1 L
2 1 1 W
1 2 1 L W
2 1 2 L
1 2 2 L
1 1 1
1 1 2 L
1 1 1 L
2 1 1 W
1 2 1 L
1 1 2 W
2 1 2 W
2 2 2 W
1 1 2 L
1 2 2 W
2 1 2 L
1 2 1 L
1 1 2 W
2 2 1 L L
2 2 1 L L
2 2 2 L W
2 1 1
1 2 2 L
1 1 1 W
1 2 2 W
2 1 2 L
2 1 1 L
1 1 2 W
1 2 1 W
2 1 2 L
1 1 2 W
2 1 1 W
2 1 2 L
2 2 2 W
1 2 1 W
1 2 2 L W
1 2 2 L
1 2 2 L
1 2 2
2 1 2 L
1 1 1 W
2 2 2 L L
2 2 1 L W
2 2 1 L
1 2 2
2 1 1 L
2 1 2 L
1 1 1 W
2 2 1 L
2 1 2 W
Very interested mr Ego, please.....explain it.
Thanks