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Title: Clustering and repeats - even money bets ...
Post by: ego on Oct 30, 04:43 AM 2011

A long time ago or many years ago i by accident find a method with create very short losing strings during 300 trails - i forgot about the method and how it was done.
Today i play around with principal of 1/3 - my favorite and find out how it was done.

We catch direct repeats and back to back during one cycle of 4 attempts.
If the cycle have 3 show with out one repeat or getting back to back we have two loses.

The formations is XXX X0X XX0 0XX for one cycle.

If our first pattern start to be XXX then we would play that next pattern begin in the same way XX.
If not then we get two different patterns like XXX XOX and would then bet for one of does to repeat.

To see this one to tank or fail you would have to get 6 cycles clustering after each other where no repeat or back to back pattern has a show.
Its rare that you even get two cycles after each other with out one repeat or back to back pattern
Title: Re: Clustering and repeats - even money bets ...
Post by: ego on Oct 30, 04:44 AM 2011
If some one would attack once then this would be the LW-Registry LWLWWWWWLLWW during 300 trials.

1    2    1
1    1    1 L
1    2    1 W
1    1    2 L
2    1    2 W
2    1    1 W
2    1    1 W
2    1    1 W
1    2    1 W
1    2    2 W
2    1    2 W
2    1    1 W
1    2    1 W
2    2    1 L
1    2    1 W
2    1    2 W
1    2    1 W
2    1    1 W
2    2    1 L
1    1    1 L

1    1    2 
1    2    1 L
1    1    2 W
1    1    2 W
2    2    2 W
2    1    1 L
1    1    1 W
1    2    2 L
2    2    1 L

1    2    1
2    1    2 W
1    2    2 W
2    2    2 L
2    2    1 L

1    2    2
2    1    1 W
2    2    1 L
2    2    1 W
2    2    2 W
2    1    2 L
1    2    1 W
2    1    1 W
2    1    2 W
2    2    1 L
2    2    1 W
2    2    1 W 
1    1    1 W
2    1    1 L
1    2    1 L

1    2    2
2    1    2 W
1    2    2 W
2    1    1 W
2    2    1 L
2    2    1 W
1    2    1 L
2    2    2 L

1    1    2
2    2    1 W
2    1    1 L
1    1    2 W
2    1    1 L
2    2    1 W
2    1    1 L
2    2    2 L

2    1    2
2    2    2 L
1    1    2 L

1    2    2
2    1    1 W
2    2    2 L
2    2    2 W
1    2    2 L
1    1    1 W
1    1    2 W
2    1    1 L
1    1    1 L

1    1    1
1    1    1 W
2    1    2 L
1    1    1 W
2    1    1 L
1    2    2 W
1    2    1 W
2    2    2 L
1    1    1 W
2    1    2 L
2    2    2 W
1    1    2 W
1    1    2 W
1    1    1 W
2    2    1 W
2    2    2 W
1    1    1 W
1    1    1 W
2    1    1 L
2    2    2 W
1    1    2 W
2    1    2 L
2    2    1 W
Title: Re: Clustering and repeats - even money bets ...
Post by: ego on Oct 30, 04:49 AM 2011
LW-Registry if attacking once LWLWLLWWLWLLWWWLWWWW

2    2    2
1    2    1 L
2    2    2 W
1    2    1 L
2    1    2 W
1    1    1 L
1    2    2 L

2    1    2 
2    2    2 L
2    1    2 W
2    2    2 L
1    1    1 W
1    1    2 W
1    1    2 W
1    2    2 L
1    1    1 L

2    1    2
2    2    2 L
2    1    1 L

1    2    1
1    2    1 W
2    1    2 W
2    2    2 L
1    2    2 L

2    1    1
1    2    1 W
2    1    2 W
1    1    2 L
1    2    2 L

2    1    1 
2    2    2 L
2    1    1 W
1    2    2 W
2    1    2 W
2    2    2 L
2    2    2 W
2    2    1 W
2    2    1 W
2    1    2 L
2    2    1 W
2    1    1 L
2    1    1 W
2    1    1 W
2    2    2 L
1    2    2 W
2    1    2 W
1    1    2 L
1    2    1 L

1    1    1 
2    1    1 L
1    1    2 L

2    1    1 
1    2    1 W
2    1    1 W
1    1    1 L
1    1    1 W
2    2    1 W
1    2    2 L
1    2    1 L

2    2    2 
2    2    2 W
1    1    1 W
1    2    1 L
1    1    2 L

1    1    1 
2    2    2 W
2    1    1 L
2    2    2 W
2    1    2 L
2    1    1 L

2    1    2 
2    2    2 L
1    2    1 W
2    1    1 W
1    2    2 W
1    1    1 L
2    2    1 L

1    1    2
2    2    1 W
1    2    1 L
1    2    1 W
2    1    1 W
2    1    2 W
1    2    2 W
1    1    2 L
2    1    2 L

2    1    1
2    1    1 W
1    2    2 W
2    2    1 L
2    1    1 W
1    1    2 L
2    2    2 L

1    2    1
2    1    2 W
1    2    1 W
1    2    2 W
2    2    1 L
2    1    2 L

1    2    2
Title: Re: Clustering and repeats - even money bets ...
Post by: ego on Oct 30, 04:53 AM 2011

This is how the imbalance look like using a dice with four sides or playing favorites to repeat or falling back to back  :twisted:

LWLWWWWWLLWWLWLWLLWWLWLLWWWLWWWW :xd:
Title: Re: Clustering and repeats - even money bets ...
Post by: ego on Oct 30, 05:06 AM 2011

Average fluctation use to show during 1024 trails and looks like this: LLLWLWLLWWWWLLLLLWWWLLLLLWLWW

A bad sample of 300 trails every third day or so ...
Title: Re: Clustering and repeats - even money bets ...
Post by: marivo on Oct 30, 07:14 PM 2011
What does direct repeats and back to back mean in this case?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Clustering and repeats - even money bets ...
Post by: catalyst on Oct 30, 09:29 PM 2011
Quote from: ego on Oct 30, 04:43 AM 2011
We catch direct repeats and back to back during one cycle of 4 attempts.
If the cycle have 3 show with out one repeat or getting back to back we have two loses.


If our first pattern start to be XXX then we would play that next pattern begin in the same way XX.
If not then we get two different patterns like XXX XOX and would then bet for one of does to repeat.

dear Ego
i have difficulty in following your LW registry. could you please explain a bit more?  :question:
thanks
catalyst
Title: Re: Clustering and repeats - even money bets ...
Post by: ego on Oct 31, 04:30 AM 2011

Thanks for showing interest as when you understand how it works you will also notice how imbalance perform.
I try to explain again and make it clear as water.

Lets assume you have a dice with four sides and it our case we have four possibal patterns.

RBR
BRB = is the same patterns and have the same formation X0X

RRR
BBB = is the same patterns and have the same formation XXX

RBB
BRR = is the same patterns and have the same formation 0XX

RRB
BBR = is the same patterns and have the same formation XX0

Now if our first pattern is XXX then we get next outcome to be X we bet to get XX to become the same pattern as our previos one.

XXX
XX

That would be a repeat of the same foramtion with XXX and XX0
Now if none of does hit we will have a hole different formation that start with X0 or 0X.

XXX
X0

We lost our first bet and did not get one repeat of the next pattern to begin with the same formation.
Now we don't play as we know that we get a new pattern that can not be same or match our previos pattern.

XXX
X00

Or it could be ...

XXX
X0X

Now we would play once that one of does previos two patterns will repeat betting once.
If we have the following.

XXX
X0X
XX

Then we would bet XXX

XXX
X00
X0

Then we would bet X00

So if not the first formation or our previos pattern repeat then we aim that one of our previos two patterns will repeat.

1. XXX
2. XX0
3. X0X
4. X00

If you lose twic then the dice or the four patterns had three of them to show with no repeat or back to back.

XXX
X0X
XX0
Title: Re: Clustering and repeats - even money bets ...
Post by: catalyst on Oct 31, 06:51 AM 2011
Dear Ego
It is perfectly clear now. I was just a bit confused as I had your 'classical roulette system part 2-for even money bets' in the back of my mind. Now thinking to apply both concept with flat betting. Your comments will be appreciated. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thanks
catalyst
Title: Re: Clustering and repeats - even money bets ...
Post by: ego on Oct 31, 07:27 AM 2011

Dear catalyst ...
Classical even money bets part 2 is ok- but it does not work out flat betting.And for this method i would aim for as i see it being a better option.Cheers
Title: Re: Clustering and repeats - even money bets ...
Post by: ego on Nov 02, 04:46 AM 2011

Well for does who understand the method above i just would say that i find it amazing how the outcomes group with imbalance with repeats or falling back to back.
It feels great to discover methods that capture waves of imbalance and see how they unfold during 300 trails.

It is a very simple method - to simple and just catch imbalance with two attempts feels awesome.
Here is the LW-Registry for 1800 trails from random org.

2011 10 18 TRNG LWLWWWWWW LL WW

2011 10 19 TRNG LWLW LL WWLW LL WWWLWWWW

2011 10 20 TRNG LL LWLW LL WWWW LL LL LW LL LL W LL LL LWLWW FLUCTATION

2011 10 21 TRNG LWWW LL LW LL LWWLWW LL W

2011 10 22 TRNG WLWLW LL LWWLWWWW LL LWWLWLWW

2011 10 23 TRNG LL LL WWLWW LL W LL WWWWWLW

Title: Re: Clustering and repeats - even money bets ...
Post by: catalyst on Nov 02, 06:53 AM 2011
Quote from: ego on Oct 31, 07:27 AM 2011
Dear catalyst ...
Classical even money bets part 2 is ok- but it does not work out flat betting.And for this method i would aim for as i see it being a better option.Cheers

dear Ego
I had a thoughtful study of this 'clustering ans repeats' bets. do you suggest any progression or flatbetting? any stoploss?

also do you suggest any progression for your 'Classical even money bets part 2'?

your comments are appreciated. :thumbsup:
thanks
catalyst
Title: Re: Clustering and repeats - even money bets ...
Post by: marivo on Nov 03, 05:18 AM 2011
Quote from: catalyst on Oct 31, 06:51 AM 2011
It is perfectly clear now.
Its clearer but not perfectly.....
Quote from: ego on Oct 31, 04:30 AM 2011If you lose twic then the dice or the four patterns had three of them to show with no repeat or back to back.

XXX
X0X
XX0
What do you want to say here? :question: