First of all I would like to say that after I found my consistent winning bet according to C.E.H clues I have played 8 sessions in the 2 Casinos that I have close to me and that I have made till now +96 chips.
This topic is dedicated to the members that had read all w3m scam site at least 3 times and that they were trying to find a consistent winning bet.
I will explain some of the clues that C.E.H was giving.
1) I noticed / found something that should happen more ,a lot more but it didn t.
Then I bet the oposite.
You don't need to be smart to understand that he found a trigger and that after this trigger a DOZEN or a column were not hitting as it was expected!
So he betted the other 2 DOZENS or columns and he had a nice bet.
2)After this EVENT the bet needed a little tweek in order to be a consistent winning bet.
If you will find a bet that doesn't win but doesn't lose either ,then find a bet inside that bet and you will have a slow winner
You also don't need to be smart to understand that if you will find this DREAM EVENT ,then you have to find an other bet to bet with it in order to have a consistent winning bet
The hole key is to find this event....when you will do it,then the bet will be engineered after some tests.
There is a Topic in the GG forum with the name A.C.T.F. BET (or something similar) that a member with the nickname SHIKAMARU (I guess it is Charles scammer) he is giving HUGE clues about the Bet.
Stop searching the maths of Roulette, they can t be beaten.....the only way to do it is with a lateral thinking and this is what the consistent winning bet is.
don't jump in the topic to say that Roulette is making everything equal and that there are no bet selections, BECAUSE THIS WAS THE STORY OF MY LIFE BEFORE FINDING THE BET.
Ok thanks.
What's the point?
Let me give you an example how to evaluate IF you have found a CWB.
Lets say that we are betting 500 Bets(after the 500 triggers).
The maths say that after 500 bets of 2 chips each bet we must have the loss :
2.7 X 2 =5.4 X 5 = -27 chips
When I started testing my bet , in 500 bets , instead of having -27 chips , I had + 22.
This means that the House egje couldn t kill my bet....
Of cource 500 spins were not enough , so i continued the test in 3.000 bets.....and it was still a winner by +23 chips.
If I was betting randomly 2 chips in every spin in 3.000 spins I should be around -162 chips(according to house edge) .....
So then I added a bet inside that bet and the result was a Winner in almost every 100 bets.
The point of this is to help the members that are still searching for a consistent winning bet...if you are not 1 of them then it has no point for you......
I made this topic because I had sveral pms from members that were intrested in help...
If most of you don t like it then I can stop.
hi RE,congratulations!
If i understand this well, you beat the roulette with bet selection? Can u tell as on how much spins u tested system and post grafic? i belive u but i need to see how u beat house edge with bet selection:)
I tested the bet with the exact rules that CHE was providing.
Quote from: RouletteExplorer on Nov 11, 05:33 PM 2011
If most of you don't like it then I can stop.
Well seeing as you asked, I definitely don't like it.
Anyone else?
I really do wish he would cut out all the ' If U like it'/If U don't like it' Bull and just tell us.
This serves no one any purpose what so ever.
The more He (RE) says, the more we begin to think he has attended the WINWITHMATHS school of attribution!
U sound like Iceman now Jordan.
If there are clues, why not post them? ...or at least the links to them?
If You have a bet, within a bet, then just give us the outside bet, lets discuss it, and then together we can all move forward as a group of like minded, interesting players, and then search out that illusive inner bet.
So, in conclusion...............more tea Vicar?
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My correct position would be never to come back in here again with all those bad attitude members and losers....
Instead of this I am here and I am helping the ppl that are willing to work and make money...
Noone in his right minds would ever expose a CWB....
I have already given the name of the topic in GG to read.....
The things that I have already posted in here are a lot more that you deserve.....
You need everything easy and ready food....well it doesn t work this way.
If I won t have the correct questions i won t give the correct answers...
Now a question for the exirienced members
Can u bet 2 dozens at the same spin for 1.000 spins and end up with +10 chips?
As we are speaking here I did a test in 800 spins with just the EVENT bet.
The result is +29 chips .
The mathematical expected result is : 2.7 X 2= 5.4 X 8 = -43,2 Chips
It means +72.2 chips more than the mathematical expectation.
Is this normal? Can this accomplised by pure luck?
As I have already helped you , I have found a trigger(actually there are 2 triggers .... the bet has 2 parts) and I am betting the 2 other Dozens......or the other 2 columns ( the best clue you could ever get in your lives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
I can t provide you any graphs because I am just spining the spins in RX and I am writing in a papper the W and the L ....
I am retesting the Event because I also really can t beliave that it is so stable!
As you know bofore some months I was cursing CEH and I was calling him a lier....
So there is no better person to tell you that a consistent winning bet exists....
I am also in Roulette forums a lot of years and anyone know that i have never scammed anyone!
All I was ever doing was exploring the maths and posting systems.....
RE,
Thanks for posting this topic. For now I just have 1 question. Does the bet consist of placing more then 1 chip on the table.
ex: bet Black, 1st dozen, and the 10th street (just made this up for example)
or does the bet just consist of betting a single location; number, street, dozen, color, etc....
If you will read CHE clues you will see that the bet can t be on Lines,quorters,streets,splits or straight numbers.....
I have given yoy the MAIN EVENT bet that are 2 chips in Doz or Col....
This is as far as I can get!
I was not saying that the bet would be on any of those. I was just asking if it was on a single location...
But you have answered my question , and I appreciate that....
Brainstorming until my next question :o
..use progresion?
The test that any consistent winning bet must pass to be a winner is to be at least +1 chips in every 100 betting spins.
CHE said that he can allow the bet to lose just some chips in 1-2 tests of 30sessions of 100 spins.
The main event bet can NOT pass every 100 spin bets!!!
In order to do this you must add an other bet in that bet...
The thing that he main event is providing is a great stability that the house edge can t overcome...
In fact from my testings of the 1st 30 sessions and of those last 8 , even with the main even t bet you can be UP in the long run BUT not on any 100 spins test.
speed this topic as I mentioned is for the ppl that had read the CHE site...
Its obvius that u haven t.
I still like to hear the expiriensed membets opinion about if a 2 dozen bet can be +29 chips after 800 placed bets.
Quote from: RouletteExplorer on Nov 11, 06:53 PM 2011
speed this topic as I mentioned is for the people that had read the CHE site...
Its obvius that u haven t.
hahaha, ok , where is that ''CHE site''? link?
Here (link:://:.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&topic=8193&forum=Roulette_Message_Board) or there about's.
Its difficult reading... I just read it all, as it contains so much nonsense and foul language.
You have to pick the bones of it.
also some here (link:://:.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&topic=8822&forum=Roulette_Message_Board) though this is mainly the warnings about it all.
Strange that this was only posted up in September, so like XXVV said few weeks ago, this scam could still be on-going.
Be careful people. :-[
Good on ya Chris
For the 1st time in ur roulette forum carrier you posted something useful...all ur other posts were desterbing unsuccesfull jokes.
Now take a good read of this topic, because in it there is a ling in an other topic that the same member speaks.
speed this is not CHE site by the way...this is just the helping topic.
Carrier=Career
Desterbing = Disturbing.
ling= link
Translation services provided free of charge for Tonight only!!
I see you can understand what I am saying.
Perfifiktleey
hahahhaha......... Oh No! 1 more of ur perfect jokes ......
A quote from here (link:://rouletteraped.com/).
I could not find any links to be able to ask permission to copy and paste this article, so, Mods, please remove it, if U get any complains what so ever.
Its a Public open site, so anyone can read the material.
I quote:-
"Roulette is far too variable to permit such a long term pattern to exist. But a pattern does exist. A long term pattern does not exist. But a short term pattern does. A multiplicity of these very short-lived patterns does in fact occur in abundance. They occur at the spin by spin level, as well as at the session by session level, and at every level in between. A pattern is created whose duration is always short relative to the time dimension under consideration. If the duration considered is at the spin by spin level, then a pattern becomes discernable at this level. If the duration considered is at the session by session level, then a pattern becomes discernable at this level. I found that I won and I lost and l lost and I won. It was always the same â€" wins followed by losses, losses followed by wins. I found that a particular strategy, any strategy, over a short period of time either consistently won or consistently lost, and then reversed itself over the next short period of time to deliver the opposite result. I struggled to comprehend this quandary, but finally as the years passed I began to understand it as being an intrinsic characteristic of Roulette, in fact of any game of chance. It is explainable by, amongst other things, the concepts of mathematical clumps and the synchronization of chaos, topics discussed later."
The reason for bringing this to Ur attention folks, is the First Line, is exactly as was said in This VLS link.:
link:://vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=18428.msg131802#msg131802 (link:://vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=18428.msg131802#msg131802)
very strange do u not think?
RE,
Another question....
If you walk up to a table in a casino that has just opened, can you start placing bets right away. Or is there a certain amount of spins that have to be observed before you can start playing?
RE, you transform EC bet to dozen or column bet and got consistent winning bet?
Quote from: RouletteExplorer on Nov 11, 06:57 PM 2011
I still like to hear the expiriensed membets opinion about if a 2 dozen bet can be +29 chips after 800 placed bets.
Yeah RE i make 290 units in 800 bets. Pm for details
Regards
hmm think I've found it tell me how often we should bet?
are these the sort of results your getting: wwl:l0:lwl0:wwlwlwlw
wl:llw0wwlw???
I've got 4 choices to make depending on the even chances???
am i supposed to narrow it down to 3 bet choices depending on an even chance? ???
is it 2 bets we place on the 1/3's or is it a 1/3 and a even chance? and end up with results like this
in the pairs first bet is the even chance and 2nd bet is the dozen both placed on the same spin
lw ww ll ww ww wl wl wl wl
1 3 -2 3 3 0 0 0 0
ww ww ll ww wl lw lw lw wl
3 3 -2 3 0 1 1 1 0
= 18pts profit
infact ive found so many different ways to get a bet selection which all look good win streaks that ive lost track of which to go with maybe use them all
Quote from: RouletteExplorer on Nov 11, 06:57 PM 2011
I still like to hear the expiriensed membets opinion about if a 2 dozen bet can be +29 chips after 800 placed bets.
Yes, quite possible. The z-score is 1.76 or probability of 1 in 26.
Quote from: RouletteExplorer on Nov 11, 07:23 PM 2011
For the 1st time in your roulette forum carrier you posted something useful...all your other posts were desterbing unsuccesfull jokes.
And you wonder why people find you a little arrogant?
You need to work on your bedside manners, doc! :girl_to:
RE,
There are some questions here in this thread you have not answered yet...
I would also like to ask; what do you think the best way is to try and see these events...is it over a certain number of spins?
This is what was written on GG:
"i can think of several ways to play 2 dozens and a column right off the bat. are you waiting for a dozen to come up 7 times and then bet the other 2 and playing the column that hasn't come up in the last 4 spins and when do you change your play in other words what specific occurrence is needed
for you to change your play and when that happens you need to explain all over again how you will now play your 2 dozens and a column"
As far as I was aware from all the "clues" given before this, it is a continuous bet....from these clues it doesnt seem that way....Can you help shine some light on this subject for me/the forum..
charles said that there are 4 known CWBs.
I have found the 1 of the 4 and as I can see its the one that shikamaru is giving the clues.
The ASTF bet if it exists its a play every spin bet ,,,, me bet is waighting for a certain event to happen.
how much do you lose on your 1st bet and how much wud u profit?
so far all i can see is that u could get it so close to be able to find a consistent win but cant get close enough im wondering if its just someone tryna waste your time on earth if they cant make money off you
waighting = waiting.
if the conversation is 'heavy-man' then it becomes:-
waighting = weighting.
Glad to be of cervise to ya hall!! :twisted:
Hey RE, is this something we discussed in PM before? Because the logic behind sounds very familiar and I wonder what you came with. Plus, I have some free time on my hands and I'm open-minded.
Regards,
Alex.
Some years ago there was a Site called W.I.N 3 MILLION.
A guy named C.H.E was giving clues about a consistent winning bet.
The members that are not familiar with the site , they can t understand what we I am talking about in here.
If you like to read the site then go to link:://:.archive.org/web/web.php (link:://:.archive.org/web/web.php) and you will find the site.
Can't find anything on the site RE.
What the proper title please?
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I tried many variations, before U ask.
on vlsroulette theres 93 pages about this bet
i kno a bet that wins and loses but dont lose any profit thats easy 2 find out
but finding a trigger from movements on the table are you not goin to give us anything to help us find this
I'm assuming here (probably wrongly) that everyone here in this forum,
has viewed and seen in amazement, this video?
I have studied it hard, along with a friend of mine, and we have the stats, but not yet the trigger.
I wonder if the whole sha-bang is related?
I don't usually fall for this type of B.S. but this one does make me 'Think'.
Third Day of Play (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=hGGGPsllpFE#)
Quote from: Chrisbis on Nov 13, 08:34 AM 2011
I'm assuming here (probably wrongly) that everyone here in this forum,
has viewed and seen in amazement, this video?
I have studied it hard, along with a friend of mine, and we have the stats, but not yet the trigger.
I wonder if the whole sha-bang is related?
I don't usually fall for this type of B.S. but this one does make me 'Think'.
It's very clear for me that he has no trigger. He was just very lucky not to go to the 4th or the 5th step of progression.
chris you need to type in win3million.com...lol
RE if you answer to the right question i will ask a couple...
the event bet ..this trigger the one for your bet happens at least so many times per 100 spins?and is it a one bet after the trigger or a few until lost then wait for the next trigger
secondly what is the least and maximum wait of spins for this trigger to happen
these would be a big clue or help the tweak bet would be a workable fix through trial and error....
for everyone who remembers some of the win3million site the man claiming to be charles did say you stayed at the table and played a minimum bet unitil your trigger arrived.
and lastly congrats well done
ok to help you look through your stats better RE and every one else i,ve attatched a bit of software so i hope it works.exctract the rar file file.
inside the list of is a purple round circle with rpro written on it ...right click on it and run as administrator it should open up and run..do not use setup etc just right click on the purple sign.in the past results box it is set to COLOR click the tab choose numbers.
at the bottom is RUN LENGTH click the slider all the way to the left.
now when you start input your results and you have a few you can click on calculate and it,ll tell you what came after the number you,ve calculated on etc.
results when saved are to end in .dat or .text.
you can copy and paste your own files in ther too i think up to 40 000.it,ll work too.
so for a test run you can press FILE in the top left hand corner and click on the one i,ve left in ..this is where you can copy and paste your own stats.a few features like undo don,t work and there is a help button to explain it properly....
its an invaluable tool and it should help everyone as you can scroll up and down in the results bar making a lot of things vey easy to look at.
hopefully it should work tell me what you all think :thumbsup:
Quote from: RouletteExplorer on Nov 11, 05:23 PM 2011
First of all I would like to say that after I found my consistent winning bet according to C.E.H clues I have played 8 sessions in the 2 Casinos that I have close to me and that I have made till now +96 chips.
This topic is dedicated to the members that had read all w3m scam site at least 3 times and that they were trying to find a consistent winning bet.
I will explain some of the clues that C.E.H was giving.
1) I noticed / found something that should happen more ,a lot more but it didn t.
Then I bet the oposite.
You don't need to be smart to understand that he found a trigger and that after this trigger a DOZEN or a column were not hitting as it was expected!
So he betted the other 2 DOZENS or columns and he had a nice bet.
2)After this EVENT the bet needed a little tweek in order to be a consistent winning bet.
If you will find a bet that doesn't win but doesn't lose either ,then find a bet inside that bet and you will have a slow winner
You also don't need to be smart to understand that if you will find this DREAM EVENT ,then you have to find an other bet to bet with it in order to have a consistent winning bet
The hole key is to find this event....when you will do it,then the bet will be engineered after some tests.
There is a Topic in the GG forum with the name A.C.T.F. BET (or something similar) that a member with the nickname SHIKAMARU (I guess it is Charles scammer) he is giving HUGE clues about the Bet.
Stop searching the maths of Roulette, they can t be beaten.....the only way to do it is with a lateral thinking and this is what the consistent winning bet is.
don't jump in the topic to say that Roulette is making everything equal and that there are no bet selections, BECAUSE THIS WAS THE STORY OF MY LIFE BEFORE FINDING THE BET.
[/quoteWHY ARE YOU STARTING ALL THIS BS AGAIN THIS WAS A SCAM OR DID YOU FORGET.
I echo your sentiment, but apart from the obvious, there must be a reason why he has brought it to us once again.
As U recall, XXVV has commented in the past, that actually, SOME good DID come out of the w3m scam discussions, and there may, I repeat may be a bet in there somewhere.
I did think he would have been discussing what I understood the Scam bet to be, which was the alternative :- LOW + 3RD DOZEN Or High + 1ST DOZEN. bet
If we study the wheel, then those Missing 6 numbers (the one's not covered by the "Ultimate bet")
are in very predictable places.
Lets see the Table layout, for the Missing Numbers (this is NOT the bet)... this is the ANTI-Bet.
First we show the layout of the bet was LOW + 3RD DOZEN.
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1@19,20,21
1@22,23,24
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Here's the wheel layout for the LOW bet
[disc]19,20,21,22,23,24[/disc]
and now the Missing Numbers, if the bet was HIGH + 1ST DOZEN.
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1@13,14,15
1@16,17,18
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and here's the wheel layout for the HIGH bet.
[disc]13,14,15,16,17,18[/disc]
NOTE from AUTHOR.
After viewing the PREVIEW of these Disc features, it would seem that some of the Wheel (disc) numbers are not showing.
I'll get CABLE GUY on the case. Sorted.
cheers everyone.
@6th sense
could it be that your program is not a rar but a php file? :)
cheers
hans
Someone asked for a Graph.
Well here is a grapg that I played only the 1 part of the bet. In the last 150 spins I must had faced at least 8-9 zeros! But the bet still made new profit.
That Mid section drop, is quite a loss Slide, looks about 34/35 units, is that correct Jord?
Thanks for the graph. Always great to view.
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hanshuckebein (link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?action=profile;u=235) and everyone else i do apologise just seen it wasn,t working and i,ve only just got back in please try this i think i,ve done it right now and tell if it works thanks
yep it does just tried and again my apologies just follow my previous instructions i,m not ery good on uploading lol
I can not get it to open.
Any one guide me on it? pls?
Quote from: RouletteExplorer on Nov 13, 02:35 PM 2011
Someone asked for a Graph.
Well here is a grapg that I played only the 1 part of the bet. In the last 150 spins I must had faced at least 8-9 zeros! But the bet still made new profit.
15 hour of play for about 50 unit profit is very slow but is not bad, if you want to be sure that this bet selection is long term winner you need it to test at least 20 000 spins, it is smal number but for begining is good, before that you can not be so sure that your system is undefited you known that very good. I see u wait for trigger on average 6-7 spins is that truth
speed if you had read the win3mill site you would see that the flat bets consistent winning bet ultimate testing is not what you suggest....for any other system yes you are correct...but not for this.
The testing is 30 sessions of 100 betting spins.
At least the 28 of them must end with a profit...even +1.
And the 1 or 2 sessions that may lose, they must not lose more than 10 chips...
That s why I told you that if you haven t read the site you or anybody else can t have a correct opinion on that.
The site was about 30 pages....almost all the pages had clues about the consistent winning bets
plus the thing that you didn t understood is that I am showing in this graph the 1 part of the bet....combining both parts its almost play in every spin....
the site is no more tho??
this bet has been talked about for years and no one whos worked it out has let it slip? i find it hard to believe even if it cud ruin there chances by tellin people some people cant keep there mouth shut it would of spread all over the internet but from lookin i have found something strange with the streets is this the trigger?
If you had read the site you would never look the streets.
I already told you to go to the way back machine and find the site.
If you or anybody else will not read the hole site at least 3 times...we can t chat about it, because you don t have a clue of how and where to look
:yawn:
Pls tell us which site U are referring to?
'Way back has nothing On w3m win3mill or any of the variations.
Just point us in the right direction, and I'll go and read ALL the pages of info
Don't waist your time there is nothing from that scam sight,He is leading you on a wild goose chase.
Chris you are very new in roulette.
If you were making researches in roulette a long time agoyou would know about this site.
warrior if you don t beleave in CWBs then why are u reading this topic?
Why is it, Ur one of those people who CAN NOT answer a simple question.
AGAIN I'll ask.......................WHERE?
Quote from: RouletteExplorer on Nov 13, 06:56 PM 2011
Chris you are very new in roulette.
If you were making researches in roulette a long time agoyou would know about this site.
warrior if you don't beleave in consistent winning bets then why are u reading this topic?
your the one preaching for years that there isnt on so what are you talking about .
RE i start reeading this scam site and on begining i found u break the rule 1, on page 4 says;
''First thing a Professional Player learns is that you don’t tell people you are one! For your own protection (carrying cash) and to enable you to “work†the Casinos it is imperative you are highly secretive (people do talk too much) at all times.''
:D
5 pages already? Why do we do it
chris why you talk to this so called roulette explorer you see his fuck up system on ophis tracker how can you devote your time to this one...he has not got a clue :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :thumbsup:
so do u see speed how good I am with all the members in here? :)
Perhaps 'THESE' pages become the 30 or so pages of the SCAM site!! lol
chris u are between 2 worlds.
The 1 wants to search for a cwb and the other is not.
You have to leave ur childish behaviour out and make a little choise.
hmm u didnt say anything about streets but it says play the table movements and thats how i found my trigger
wait this guy has designed a system? then wtf why am i even looking at this you dont design a system if uve got a perfect 1 unless its to try get money off people?
RE cut the crap dont give me the answer but give somewhere i could find the answer to myself my bet selection could be the right one BUT if i dont know how to find the trigger which i havent seen any clues for then theres no point
oh wait maybe...... you dont know about this bet either so your gettin people to brainstorm to try help you figure it out?
that does sound about right!
lol
You are ginius....
So it was a time loss to try to help you....
What you want in ready food....
The few ppl that have found a CWB had worked for months or maybe years to find it.
U are just a lazy boy.and lazy ones don t desearve nothing
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so do u see speed how good I am with all the members in here? :)
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I see..
I think u need help your new goverment in your country too, tell him constant winning bet to resolve financial problem.. maybe u become a heroo..:)
ive got a bet than dont lose and dont win unless hits zero
in that bet i have got a bet
and i have got a trigger something that i really thought i expected to see more of
so am i really lazy?
The goverment of my country can t be saved even if they had 10 Cwbs...lol
"""""I've got a bet than don't lose and don't win unless hits zero"""""
hahahahhahah....but of cource you have ! If you will remove the 0 from any wheel...then there is no house edge,
i lose 2 units if it hits zero
i make a unit each time i win or break even
maybe it might not be the right one but this looks good enough to me
cheers
ahahhahahaha.....you are so funny.
Study the maths of roulette.
And learn also that roulette is in casinos and not on a PC screen.
You little nerd
Oh right so now u sayin maths he was sayin forget odds and play the movements so whos talk shit now u did what u wanted you helped someone find something so why are you puttin up a defence like shit he might be right
right and now your tellin me i dont go to a casino damn man ur good what else do you THINK you know about me?
I know that u are playing in a non 0 wheel....hahahhahahahhahahah So funny !!!!!
yeh? go check then paddy power air ball tell me its a no zero
never played on a no zero in my life
lol whos the dumb one?
some page on this scam site are for some reason deleted.. but i think i found 2 constant winning bet :-X
so u are a winner too>???
Then why are you posting in other ppls systems topics?
From the day I found my CWB I haven t post in any other topic exept this one that I am trying to help ppl that are serious and they are making huge research.....
So you don t have a winner.
watch it speed hell start hatin on you if uve found something lol
I asked you stack why are u still in here posting in other ppls topics if you have a winning system?
ive never ever ever looked at this bet cuz there was so much crap surrounding it and yet your wrong again! ive only looked at this for about 3 days so thats why other post from me are in other topic give it up man! GET ME!
And now ive answered you ;)
i found it from your scam site now... ok we have 3 connstant winning bet, 7 more to go, then help Greek goverment to resolve financial problem :xd:
try to help urself and let the goverment do what it has to do
ignoring me cuz ive answered your questions?
I don t have to say anything to you.
You say that u have a winner, then go and make money as I am doing the last days
no thanks loads more testing first!
its amazing how it dont do what you think it would do
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5 pages already? Why do we do it
Because at the start of the thread RE said,
Quote from: RouletteExplorer on Nov 11, 05:33 PM 2011
If most of you don't like it then I can stop.
I put my hand up and said,
Quote from: Skakus on Nov 11, 05:50 PM 2011
Well seeing as you asked, I definitely don't like it.
Anyone else?
You had an invitation to nip this in the bud, but no one else said they didn’t like it so he didn’t stop and here we are 7-8 pages later talking gibberish.
LoL!
guys its so easy forget what bets he's gave u a clue to place look at movements on the table!
btw 20pts profit no losses just break evens
RE,
Can you please run these spins yourself and tell me what your profit would be at the end? I just ran through them, and flat betting it ended +14.. I would just like to know if I have found the same thing as you.
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i make it +16 if prog was used i went over quickly cuz i needa go bed so could be mistakes
i think this topic is getting clouded.RE you must have known this would happen as you have done this yourself to many people in the past ie told every one it can,t be beaten..
every one should take a deep breath and calm down...if RE has the bet it must be very hard to give clues without giving the bet away...i think a lot of patience is needed from every one.
and RE don,t be bullied and get into a slanging match to prove or get it extracted from yourself.
Dignity and patience is the way forward for every one.
thanks for one answer to my question..
there is an option where when 3 seperate dozens or columns come out ie a,b,c where it could be a trigger to flat bet the last 2 hit until a change ..ie if b a c came out you would flat bet on a and c ...does your event include this way of thinking? or would it involve numbers? or sections on the table ?
simple questions i know but i would appreciate your answer
chris you need to type win3million.com in that bar on the way back machine. i have videoed the whole original site page by page as an avi file if i can find it on one of my plug and play hard drives i,ll see what i can do to get it up somewhere.
also has everyone who downloaded the 2nd rar file got it running? just right click on the purple/red round icon with rpro on it and run as administrater please let me know if it works
chris solved your problem its coming up as win3.scam instead of the original site i enter in...so i,ll type it different here .after you type win then 3 then type million then .com...the text gets changed if i put it in properly
Quote from: RouletteExplorer on Nov 13, 07:25 PM 2011
"""""I've got a bet than don't lose and don't win unless hits zero"""""
hahahahhahah....but of cource you have ! If you will remove the 0 from any wheel...then there is no house edge,
There is a house edge. It's called the payout odds.
Quote from: 6th-sense
after you type win then 3 then type million then .com...the text gets changed if i put it in properly
Thanx M. Got it now.... at last.
thank u for ur patience.
@ RouletteExplorer,
You seem to have started this thread with the purpose of teasing members with hints. Either post your system or leave the forum as you said you were going to. Can I remind you that you've previously been BANNED from this forum. When you returned, the mods turned a blind eye, but now you're getting back into your old habits. Steve has the final say, but I've recommended that you be permanently banned.
In any case, this thread will be locked after a few hours, whether you respond or not.
Well Bayes i belive you know this behaviour of this man for some time. For many years same story on many forums. Been banned on all of them.. What do you think will change this time? And always goes offended saying that there is nothing good on forums, and always comes back again and again, i think to irritate and to tease newbies or whoever thinks he has something.
He is a troll you have been saying few days ago...
Regards
Drazen
Actually, though I would usually be the last to defend Jordan/Viper/RE, especially since he sends out all the wrong vibes, and not particularly nice PM's I will say this.
This Topic is worthy of further consideration, since what it is about, is learning.
RE is trying to get us all to READ the game, as against just being SPOON fed all the answers.
I for one, am very willing to learn and read up all I can on this series of Consistent Winning bets.
There is more than ONE of THEM!
And that's the trick.
Having read the C.E.H. pages, U get the sense that he was never going to tell the audience the bet HE was using at the time, but trying to get everyone to LEARN the variable patterns that exist, and construct a bet around them.
I will have more on this later. (Or, could U read that again, and its actually says I'm A unintelligent later!!)
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Well done chris . you got the spirit.
If I have the "Spirit"........will U provide us all with the Tonic then?
Go on ......................MAKE MY DAY.
Hey Chris, i respect the fact that RouletteExplorer doesnt want to give us the full system if we dont show some interest, but what am i supposed to do if i follow 10 threads at the same time and some dont want to share how it works(iamprojectx) some dont want to share the system and just give random hints about it(rouletteexplorer's guide) Even the god darn title is wrong, i dont see any guide to this consistant winning bet? I'm not really sure what he's after, he doesntt want to write the system here but he is good enough to tell us he found it and we can do it on our own too? If information was transmitted like that since neandethalians lived we would be still living in caves.
Dont have anything against anyone i just dont like these twisted games. I am a strong believer that if you have something you either share it or just keep it for yourself and never mention it.
Quote from: Mudiru on Nov 14, 07:00 AM 2011
Hey Chris, i respect the fact that RouletteExplorer doesn't want to give us the full system if we don't show some interest, but what am i supposed to do if i follow 10 threads at the same time and some don't want to share how it works(iamprojectx) some don't want to share the system and just give random hints about it(rouletteexplorer's guide) Even the God darn title is wrong, i don't see any guide to this consistant winning bet? I'm not really sure what he's after, he doesntt want to write the system here but he is good enough to tell us he found it and we can do it on our own too? If information was transmitted like that since neandethalians lived we would be still living in caves.
don't have anything against anyone i just don't like these twisted games. I am a strong believer that if you have something you either share it or just keep it for yourself and never mention it.
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"Twisted games" - yes, absolutely.
Notice RE posted above in support of Chris. He ticks all the boxes for a troll (see the sticky post in the general section):
"To this end it will post deliberately inflammatory messages which generate inflammatory responses; complain about being the victim of the inflammatory responses; endeavor to obtain allies against the discrimination it feels; turn on those same allies, etc. etc. The whole objective of the exercise is to disrupt or make someone do something you wanted them to do for laughs."
Chris, sorry mate, but he's trying to hook in any ally he can. Don't fall for it. You've already said he sent you nasty pm's, now all of a sudden he's your best buddy?
The guy is a troll plain and simple. His time here is fast running out. >:(
The baton has to be carried forward by someone Jules.
Who is next to firing Line, the starting Pistol is ready?
I'm only looking for the bet.
But thanks yet again, for the wise words of advice.
U will find, an incredible thick skin on this Rhino though.
Learnt that lesson from the Not so kind words of Commonsense1968 before he came 7th heaven.
That was just the week after I joined. (under the Old Soviet name tag I had!! LoL)
Now then, back to the bet.
Is there one/
Or Two, Or More?
I think so........... :question:
Hear Hear. I said it in his last post.
DNFTT.
If someone such as Flatino, JL, GLC, Chrisbis(!) or any other number of respected members can share their methods clearly and patiently then why does someone else want you to jump thru hoops looking for scraps of a system that may not exist? It's an insult to all the other contributors and
remember - He's laughing at ya.
The bar was high. Let's keep it there by following a simple rule:
DNFTT.
Quote from: Chrisbis on Nov 14, 08:30 AM 2011
The baton has to be carried forward by someone Jules.
Who is next to firing Line, the starting Pistol is ready?
I'm only looking for the bet.
But thanks yet again, for the wise words of advice.
U will find, an incredible thick skin on this Rhino though.
Learnt that lesson from the Not so kind words of Commonsense1968 before he came 7th heaven.
That was just the week after I joined. (under the Old Soviet name tag I had!! LoL)
Now then, back to the bet.
Is there one/
Or Two, Or More?
I think so........... :question:
Why do we have to put up with this nonsense? No more a political correctness here.
Somebody has to take some action with this guy once and for good.
Regards
I have no clue why a topic like this would belong to a roulette board/forum - this kind of topic end with nothing - my opinion.
Why shouldn't we put up with this nonsense? I see so many weird posts and systems. The essence here is that everybody has the right to learn one or two things about roulette.
And maybe, just maybe there is a way to beat roulette, so why not ponder and brainstorm and test and discuss.
Ok, I have to admit that I to doubt RE's motives and claims, but on the other hand, it has been a while since there was a creative explosion on this and other roulette related fora; it might well be sparked by a false claim, but at least it was sparked.
And I also have to admit that I learned one or two things about certain members: mostly very positive things!
reddwarf
Hi Ego,
What do you mean with "nothing": you mean a consistent bet or HG: this will never happen on any forum as long as people are in their right minds: why slaughter a hen that lays golden eggs.
So the best that we can expect is facts (for new members):
- spins are independant
- there are unbalances on the table
- any system that waits on certain events to happen will ruin your mood
- roulette wheels have been beaten in the past, but unfortunatly casinos learned from this (why the f*&(*& did people talk about this??)
Claims:
- there exists at least 2 or 3 or more consistent winning bets
- some even claim to have a HG
So what we learned from this RE is that he again confirms the claims, unfortunatly we have to believe him on his word because his statistics suck, but again, I believe that is his, or anyones prerogative.
reddwarf
Quote from: reddwarf on Nov 14, 09:24 AM 2011
Why shouldn't we put up with this nonsense? I see so many weird posts and systems. The essence here is that everybody has the right to learn one or two things about roulette.
And maybe, just maybe there is a way to beat roulette, so why not ponder and brainstorm and test and discuss.
Ok, I have to admit that I to doubt RE's motives and claims, but on the other hand, it has been a while since there was a creative explosion on this and other roulette related fora; it might well be sparked by a false claim, but at least it was sparked.
And I also have to admit that I learned one or two things about certain members: mostly very positive things!
reddwarf
Yeah
On d other hand we will at least get some entertainment value here. Roulette is a serious business but i guess everybody needs sometimes a break so RE provides some break. I guess he is a keeper so i will vote 4 him here. I admit that i overreacted. My apologies.
Regards
Hi Robeenhut,
Haha, couldn't agree more :thumbsup:
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My 2 cents: what is the difference between tossing a coin, and roulette (without zero for convienience)?? There is a difference!
reddwarf
Only problem I see, is that the Coin might be a Euro, and by the time it lands in Ur hands,
It could be worthless!!!
:twisted:
Haha,
Painful, and unfortunatly true. But there is more lets assume that I have 1 streak of ten heads, and 1 chop of length 10 (=alternating heads and tails).
What would this look like in roulette?
Last remark:
write a few examples on paper and have a long, long look, just maybe you will see something that might help.... (and yes, it is related to RE claims, and to another not to be mentioned person who claimed something outrageous...)
goodbye, reddwarf
well, I somehow was afraid that the discussion would take the direction it finally took. :'(
I admit that RE sometimes has a way of communicating which is certainly not mine.
but guys, just look at the facts. IF we assume that a winning bet exists and IF we assume that RE has found it and his hints are correct, THAN we now know that it is a bet on 2 doz. or 2 col. And this is much more than what has ever been revealed before, isn't it?
of course, I think that what people believe or don't believe in is nobody's business but their own.
so if you believe .... good. if you disbelieve ...good, too.
just my 10 euro cents .... :)
cheers
hans
You bet Every Spin.
If HIGH, place ONE Unit on LOW, TWO units on DOUBLESTREET 19-24, and place ONE unit EACH on 2 CORNERS in the 3rd DOZEN. Anf obviously when You see LOW, you are placing the opposite Bet.
You are covering 32 Numbers. You can only lose on the 0 + 4 numbers. You-ll break even on the Corners, Profit on the HIGH/LOW and on the DOUBLESTREET. And its SLOW...
/M
small profit quick return thats how we blew up
i think you have it totally wrong its not an inside bet...it doesn,t rely on anything in there the clue is in the triggers which are totally independent of the runs...one needs the other to be constant neither wins or loses...the outside bet comes later...you should be thinking of a conjuction of two triggers happening at the same time i,ll give you a quick very interesting example...cols come out like this aaaccccBA
dozs come out like this bbccbccAB
the triggers here are the col and doz changing ie col aaacccb heres the trigger as B is a change 2nd from the end becouse the doz is changing at the same time time the trigger here is A second from the end....the col and doz to bet for would be a and b.....and the main trigger would be the simultanious conjunction of both doz and column changing at the same time.....i don,t know if i explained it properly but you can see this very easily using the software i provided the 2nd time...is it working for the people who downloaded it?
I could not get the second to work either, just sits in my "Downloads" box, asks if I want open/save it, and then ..........................Nowt!!
Anyone tell me what I am missing here? must be some key software.
@6th-sense
I still can't get your program to work. it always come around as a php. and not as a rar. file.
cheers
hans
Snap.
IF we assume that a winning bet exists and IF we assume that RE has found it and his hints are correct, THAN we now know that it is a bet on 2 doz. or 2 col. And this is much more than what has ever been revealed before, isn't it?
Exactly!
Thank God there are some logical ppl in here.
I gave you the best help you would ever get by a person that has a CWB.
I already had 2 pms from 2 ppl that just made an acount in here just to tell me that I a giving too many clues and that they don t like a lot of ppl to find it.
hanshuckebein (link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?action=profile;u=235) chris...the second upload is a rar file you need to download WINRAR extractor for free at download.net and install it.chris you save the file in a folder on your desktop..right click on it when you have downloaded the winrar software and click on extract and replace files...this will extract it all into a folder open the folder and right click on the purple/red circle in there and run as administator....hope this helps you alll..let me know please..if i need to i could do a video excactly how to do it.
ok RE this must be frustrating for you as well as members here ..am i looking in the right direction? a simple yes or no would be great thanks
There are so many triggers....Triggers that come from the ECs and triggers that comes from the dozens and colums.....
I can t say where exactly to look, its like giving the bet away to the hole public.
Can U say in chat lounge then?
ok i can access that 1..the bet comes from a combination of the doz and col like my example...maybe not excactly that but i would presume along those line
2...i would also presume this would be the bet that neither wins nor loses that needs the ec to align with it to make it constant
3...the ec in itself would as you say many triggers would be the right alignment at the time of the alignment of the event bet? the many triggers is one of 6 choice ie h/l o/e r/b
penulimite?maybe but i,m not too sure i think it would depend on the excact relation amongst them at the time..
4...its hard for you too say becouse it could give the whole bet away thats why i haven,t got a simple yes or no answer
5 the win3m site ...charles said he bet 500 a pop a time at the table which in itself is unusual for a three way split on one ec and 2columns....is there more than 3 places to bet with your bet?
6. you gave me a direct answer to my question just now which would lead me to think i,m in the right direction so please could i have a simple answer am i on the right track? a simple yes or no would be great
Great, Thanks RE!
Now we have it, the consistant winning bet. :)
The bet is on two dozens or columns and the many triggers come from everywhere!
I'm off to the casiono to make some big bucks! :thumbsup:
Quote from: RouletteExplorer on Nov 14, 03:46 PM 2011
There are so many triggers....Triggers that come from the ECs and triggers that comes from the dozens and columns.....
I can t say where exactly to look, its like giving the bet away to the hole public.
Oh dear...
QuoteI'm off to the casino to make some big bucks!
Don't bother I just got home after emptying it!
Quotegiving the bet away to the hole
in the pocket? wheres this hole
QuoteI can t say where exactly to look
Because Charles made it invisible?
Thanks Superman. now there is no more roulette for me. Now they gonna add another zero to the table but because re's triggers come from everywhere even the table next to the table I'm on I should be okay
You know, RE went AWOL for a while as he was taking heat, what better way to get back at those that you didn't get on with than saying you have IT and your not sharing, CEH did the same thing, my cronies wont like me telling you too much etc etc
I'll bet RE had more than those 2 new members PM's, there's a lot of gullible people on gambling forums.
Take Bayes warning strongly, you are being suckered into something that's not real, there's an old saying
"a fool and his money are easily seperated" not to say that this will end up in sales, but I'll bet some here have already tried to befriend RE, it happens all the time on forums, there's another thread running hot with yet another HG, not for sale ....... yeah right, if there was something, it would be for sale, you can bank on that.
I vote for put up or shut up
Polling Booth with that Sir?
Screw it being on sale. I would be winning while I drink my champagne. I vote shut up.
CEH is a fraud. If anyone actually believes his nonsense, I can tell you that you're wasting your time. He is an attention seeking and sick person.
I just read more of this thread, and it is very disappointing to see how many people are taken in by ceh's rubbish. The man is sick, I mean really he has problems. Like others who know better, I can only warn you that if you follow anything that man says, you are wasting your life. Same with Alabalah, although Al more just doesnt have a clue what he's doing in combination with scamming people, but he knows well enough to know his methods dont work.