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Title: Football Trading
Post by: StackBundles on Nov 14, 10:29 PM 2011
i was thinking if roulette is so unpredictable then why are we doing it why not put all of our energy into something that will work for us?

which is football (soccer hate that word) trading you dont need knowledge of the sport although it would be a good help all it is down to is good research with a good stratergy and money management, i mean if u put 100 down on black and it comes zero uve lost all of it no going back u cant sell your bet so u end up losing £20 instead of 100 but you can when you trade!

what if u backed the score to be 1-1 soon as that goal goes in you can sell your bet for a profit what happens if theres no goals and the odds drift way out so u cant sell your bet? theres stratagies and exit plans something you cant do with roulette!

what i was thinking if anyone is interested id like to set up a team of researchers to find that 1 or 2 games where we have got a good chance of profit! trends happen all the time in football and they go on for years!!!!

anyways let me know what you think and we will get started

thanks
Title: Re: Football Trading
Post by: Tomla021 on Nov 14, 10:42 PM 2011
I have done sports betting for many years before I started casino betting,,, LOVE it
Title: Re: Football Trading
Post by: StackBundles on Nov 14, 10:54 PM 2011
yeh its good! even x-factor i made a killing off i had to stop football trading cuz i was working weekends but now im not i want it again!!!!

i think if we got a team we would do pretty good!

Title: Re: Football Trading
Post by: Tomla021 on Nov 14, 10:58 PM 2011
unfortunately I only play soccer matches once in awhile, I do my best on USA sports, basketball, american football, baseball etc
Title: Re: Football Trading
Post by: StackBundles on Nov 14, 11:04 PM 2011
the one i love is the last few mins before the final whistle buying a bet that says there will be a goal the odds are crazy!

i once missed out on making 50k with a £10 bet last few seconds of the game the least fav team scored! i was gutted stupid computer froze! how my life could be now :(

Title: Re: Football Trading
Post by: superman on Nov 15, 02:51 AM 2011
Hey Stacks

I've been fiddling @ Betfair for a while now, must admit not at football though, why do you feel football is the way to go?

Probably best not to discuss it on a roulette forum, we may get bounced LOL there's been a lot of bouncing here lately, PM?
Title: Re: Football Trading
Post by: 6th-sense on Nov 15, 03:14 AM 2011
hi stackbundles i think you  should be looking at arbing it encases all sports if the team your betting on wins or loses you will still be in profit...this is what my son in law does for a living....plus side is if you have a lot of money to do it you make a percent on it....downside is being stuck in looking at a computer moniter....this is his site  link:://:.couponarbitrage.com/ (link:://:.couponarbitrage.com/)  google arbing and learn a lot before you do anything.hope this helps
Title: Re: Football Trading
Post by: StackBundles on Nov 15, 03:19 AM 2011
People talk about other stuff in ere all the time I'm sure my lil post won't bother anyone or will it? maybe who knows we will see

i don't suggest football is the best but i have the most knowledge on it so its best for me plus i live football so theres another reason

also it helps to watch the game while you trade skys not the best for it because of the lil delay but it helps

i mean theres so many things that change the game by maybe 1 man missing from the team can cause problems and give us a good chance to net a big profit

if your up for starting a team we will research all the games for the weekend
work out our strategy and exit point and see how we do

england vs sweden is tonight without research i would back 1.5 goals
I can see england scoring there 2000th goal and with only winning 2 of the last 17 games against sweeden i see goals!

but I've done next to nothing research so don't take my word but it looks a good bet



Title: Re: Football Trading
Post by: StackBundles on Nov 15, 03:23 AM 2011
thanks 6th i will look into it
Title: Re: Football Trading
Post by: Juiced91 on Nov 15, 03:31 AM 2011
Football or soccer as I call it. and rugby are my games. I would never of backed England to beat Spain. Although Spain had many chances to win the game just wasn't spains day in the scoring department.
Title: Re: Football Trading
Post by: StackBundles on Nov 15, 03:40 AM 2011
nope i wudnt back england to of beaten spain although they did good last time 2-1 to spain. what i did do is lay 1.5 goals i didnt trade tho i took a risk i thought england were defending good and looked organized so i left it and made a nice profit
Title: Re: Football Trading
Post by: StackBundles on Nov 15, 03:42 AM 2011
sorry i meant back under 1.5 propa tired aint been bed yet and i gotta go hospital stupid!
Title: Re: Football Trading
Post by: Bayes on Nov 15, 03:43 AM 2011
I had a go at betting on the gee gees a few years ago. My horses usually crossed the line first, problem was it was usually in the following race.  ;D   Too many variables for my liking, but football might be a better prospect, except the game bores me rigid.

Trading on Betfair is the way to go I think, rather than straight betting. Often certain teams have artificially low odds because of expectation and hype, so laying the favourite can be a good strategy.
Title: Re: Football Trading
Post by: StackBundles on Nov 15, 03:45 AM 2011
i used to do trading watching the horses but its all to fast id rather chill out and study something and get a feel how the game is going

Title: Re: Football Trading
Post by: superman on Nov 15, 03:54 AM 2011
Quoteso laying the favourite can be a good strategy

Tried that for a while, only problem I found was the back to back wins happen a lot with horses, so I did the same with the doggies, less fav wins but again they win too often for flat betting to work long term, currently I am looking for the worst doggie in the bunch, not an easy task but it has been working for the last week. The guy who picks the dogs for the race in my mind he knows which one has the best chance of winning, if you study the muts history there are a few things to work with, to find the worst dog that is.

This was yesterdays results for me, £2 bets, flat betting

WWWWWWWWWW5/1WWW8/1WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW4/1WWWWWWWWWWWW7/2WW6/1WWWWWWW
53 WINS = 100.70
5 LOSSES = 53.00
PROFIT 47.70

It is time consuming BUT you get a bet every 10 minutes on average and if I can carry on with the above ratio I can't see a problem with trying a bit of recovery after a loss, football would bore me.
Title: Re: Football Trading
Post by: StackBundles on Nov 15, 04:00 AM 2011
watch out for them dogs it is corrupt!

thats why not many favs win because they feed them dry dog food and put them in sweat boxes to get there odds up and then they go for the win
Title: Re: Football Trading
Post by: Chrisbis on Nov 15, 04:06 AM 2011
Looks like superman  has gone to the dogs.

Send for Lex Luthor!
Title: Re: Football Trading
Post by: StackBundles on Nov 15, 04:18 AM 2011
Let me try think of this trainer who does it and then look for his dogs if hes got favs they aint winning!


also guys if we get a team it doesnt have to be just football it will be the best trades we can find out of anything!

tennis
darts
snooker
they are a few good ones for trading
Title: Re: Football Trading
Post by: StackBundles on Nov 15, 04:27 AM 2011
Just remembered betfair has got roulette on there exchange games and its not normal roulette its weird theres like 6 betting chances before you get the result i wonder if any systems would work on it we would have the chance to trade out if it goes the wrong way aswell
Title: Re: Football Trading
Post by: monaco on Nov 15, 07:06 AM 2011
i did tennis betting for a couple of years before trying roulette. Originally i tried football, but then moved to tennis & just loved it. The thing with tennis is the odds move from point to point, so there's so many opportunities.
It's actually not that common that a player will win the first point & then just continue to be in front for the whole of the rest of the match thereby his odds just a gradual slide downwards, there's usually at least some sort of up & down activity at some point in the match.. even just a break-point opportunity, or even 15-30 can affect the odds enough.

I found that football on the whole is a game of fewer incidents so can be harder to get out of losing positions.

In-play is the best bet, though i did try to to do pre-match as well on some of the smaller tournaments. Plus, there's tennis somewhere just about every week in the year.

Took so much of my time doing research though, in the end I just couldnt maintain it (at one point i reckon i could've given you the current form/mental condition & last night's dinner of every player in the Top 200!!)

If you really want amazing odds, look at women's tennis, so many snatch a loss from the jaws of victory it's incredible
Title: Re: Football Trading
Post by: StackBundles on Nov 15, 07:24 AM 2011
Yeh i know what you mean about football but i find it pretty easy i touched on tennis a lil bit and u cud be in and out a trade so quick with amazing profit id love to go to a game and trade court side theres no way you would lose youd be ahead of everyone!
Title: Re: Football Trading
Post by: StackBundles on Nov 15, 07:28 AM 2011
Yellow cards are a good bet check the refs stats out and then if a team like wolves liverpool everton are playing your sure to profit these managers get them syked up so much and they get them to go out with these crunching tackles
Title: Re: Football Trading
Post by: monaco on Nov 15, 08:32 AM 2011
Quote from: StackBundles on Nov 15, 07:24 AM 2011
id love to go to a game and trade court side theres no way you would lose youd be ahead of everyone!

they're pretty clued up on that kind of thing now - most places you'll have people checking the crowd out.. got a mate who saw more than a couple of people being thrown out of the Barclays tour finals at the O2 arena in London for trying that.

Quote from: StackBundles on Nov 15, 07:28 AM 2011
Yellow cards are a good bet check the refs stats out and then if a team like wolves liverpool everton are playing your sure to profit these managers get them syked up so much and they get them to go out with these crunching tackles

wasn't Mascherano a shoe-in for 1st yellow card when he played for Liverpool?  ;D

good luck with the footie mate  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Football Trading
Post by: StackBundles on Nov 15, 08:47 AM 2011
really i know a guy who goes round trading tennis dont think hes been caught but i guess if thats the case then i best get my self a box at old trafford!