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Common interest => Online gaming => Topic started by: iggiv on Jan 14, 08:34 PM 2012

Title: Believe me or not...
Post by: iggiv on Jan 14, 08:34 PM 2012
but dealers at Fairway/Castle/Celtic are very good at aiming sectors. Just tell them in chat and tip them. Very nice they are.
Title: Re: Believe me or not...
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jan 16, 02:23 AM 2012
The female dealers are very good at hitting sectors. (dangerous) 
The male ones, not as good in my opinion (which helps the bankroll)  :)
Title: Re: Believe me or not...
Post by: iggiv on Jan 16, 08:38 AM 2012
of course u must be very careful in using this. not all of them will succesfully do it
Title: Re: Believe me or not...
Post by: GARNabby on Jan 16, 08:44 AM 2012
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Jan 16, 02:23 AM 2012
The female dealers are very good at hitting sectors. (dangerous) 
Of course not, just at leading you guys on.  Otherwise they would've helped out each other, and left such a low-paying, boring, no-where job a long time ago.  (Not to mention the complete lack of scientific bases, stats, etc, to begin to actually prove this sort of subjective nonsense.)
Title: Re: Believe me or not...
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jan 16, 09:03 AM 2012
@iggiv: tipping the women dealers at Celtic may help, from my experience it's a lot cheaper to play roulette with the male dealers.

@GARNabby: you don't have to take my word for it, just a word to the wise about that site.
Title: Re: Believe me or not...
Post by: ego on Jan 16, 10:39 AM 2012

I have my own wheel - Huxley with low frets.
I know everything there is to know and what happens when you spin the ball.

I could easy state i am ballistic expert and would state they are not shooting for your favorite sector.
I could easy explain why i can - but then i create does conditions with my wheel - they don't.

There is so much fiction and littel about facts.

(link:://i44.tinypic.com/2gwx9x3.jpg)
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Title: Re: Believe me or not...
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jan 16, 12:36 PM 2012
Iggiv said in the thread's title "Believe Me Or Not"...I believe you Iggiv  :)
Title: Re: Believe me or not...
Post by: ego on Jan 17, 02:48 AM 2012
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Jan 16, 12:36 PM 2012
Iggiv said in the thread's title "Believe Me Or Not"...I believe you Iggiv  :)

Yes i could read that and i share some candy with him to have fun with - but it boils down to knowledege about physics - trust me.

1) First we could discuss with kind of degree of tilt the wheel has.
Then we would discuss with one would be main focus pin depending on cw or acw direction.

2) Secound we would discuss rotor speed and what kind of position it has in the begining of the spin and what kind of position it has at the end of the spin - discuss how much it travels during the spindevelopment.

3) We could discuss what kind of behavior dealers has and with kind of fource he or she spin the ball.

I reacoun if i use slow sloppy spins i could hovering around the same amount of turnarounds from begining to end of the spindevelopment or i could spin the ball as hard as i can and hovering around same amount of turnaround from start to end.
Then the timeframe from begining to end will hovering around similiar values.

Now if i could do that with constant rotor speed at 3.0 and not 3.1 or 2.9 then rotor would travel constant with out changing to much in distance/yardage and end position would be similiar if i could hovering around same amount of turnarounds during the spindevelopment.
Note i would have to release the ball from same position/number.

Lets make it easy and say only one dominant deflector hits 8 to 9 times out of 10 - then i might pin point out same sector around 7 to 10 numbers 2 to 3 times out of 10 attempts.

I just try to show you that aim for one sector involves more then what the dealers is up to - pshycics and condtion with dealer teqnuic is crusial if you are even going to get close to aim for same sector.

NOTE but if i am allow to be dealer and tell the gambler where the ball will end up - then it can be done with out any problem at all - but there is a difference knowing where the ball will end up during the spin - then say that some one aim for same sector.

It also exist one other solution - but i would not mention and belive me that no dealer know about it ...
Title: Re: Believe me or not...
Post by: amk on Jan 17, 06:12 AM 2012
Man, hope we may learn what that other solution is sometime Ego!

Had a quick question for you. Might have already been studied or prove to have no merit but thought the idea was interesting.

On a live wheel the croupier spins and the ball lands. The croupier than rotates the wheel until the ball is on his or her side again. Then picks out the ball spins the wheel form the pocket the ball landed in and sends the ball on its way. This is always done in the same fashion continually.

Scenario:
Number 32 is landed. You look at your records and see that the last time number 32 was spun number 15 landed directly after it. There might be a good chance that now the ball will land around number 15 again due to the precise repetitive spinning style the croupier uses (any croupier as this is the official way the casino wants them to spin)

Now the ball will be removed, the wheel spun again using pocket 32 as its contact point and the ball released again in the same rhythmic style as the last time number 32 was landed.

I think there is something there it will just take a lot of testing to recognize the window of numbers to bet on.
Title: Re: Believe me or not...
Post by: superman on Jan 17, 08:18 AM 2012
@ AMK, I have also thought the same, but don't forget they spin anticlockwise then clockwise so what I have looked at is they started at 32 clockwise and it ended up at number 6 that's 9 pockets to the right, next spin would be anti clockwise so it could end up in number 32 again, if you see where I'm coming from.
Title: Re: Believe me or not...
Post by: amk on Jan 17, 05:22 PM 2012
That is the way to go Superman. There has to be some repetitive element to this. How many numbers to play and where. If someone could test this it would be very interesting.

Scenario:

32 lands then 6,

Ten spins later 6 lands again,

now we need to know if we bet 4 numbers to the left or right of number 32     ++++32  or 32++++

or two numbers to its left and right            ++32++

Hope somebody could test this and see if there is indeed a repetitive trend.

Why wouldn't there be? Infact if we look at the physics of the scenario chances are the greatest that the ball will land somewhere close to number 32 again. This is due to the croupier touching and spinning the wheel from pocket 6 while releasing the ball with the same force once again.

Because each spin is clockwise followed by anticlockwise, when number 6 lands again we know the wheel will be spun with the same force in the opposite direction. This is what happened the first time number 6 appeared because before it number 32 landed while being spun in the opposite direction.

Hope Chrisbis might look into this.......
Title: Re: Believe me or not...
Post by: amk on Jan 17, 06:00 PM 2012
I might have misinterpreted what you were describing Superman. Your saying if 32 lands then 6 it will end up back around 32 somewhere. This is continuous for every two numbers.

That's very interesting to. Wish I had the computer skills then I would do a lot of testing with this sort of concept........ But you can't win'em all :)
Title: Re: Believe me or not...
Post by: ego on Jan 18, 02:14 AM 2012

You all should learn the wheel - the number ring order.

26 0 32 15 19 4 21 2 25 17 34 6 27 13 36 11 30 8 23 10 5 24 16 33 1 20 14 31 9 22 18 29 7 28 12 35 3