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Title: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 10, 12:29 AM 2010
Hi guys, i'll be playing these 2 systems fender's zone and jordan's hydra and posting my results as and when i play them. Lets hope that they ( or rather i do well ) ahahaha. Oh, the tests are conducted in real money. :D


targets are as follows

Zone : win target 2-4 units per session 2 sessions a day BR


hydra: +15 -35stop loss

BR FOR BOTH 250 UNITS
unit stake increases after 1000 unit hit.

1st session played

Zone +4

ZONE BR 254(+4)

CHEERS

HAMSUP
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: VLS on May 10, 02:17 AM 2010
Hey Hamsup, keep up posted.
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 10, 04:17 AM 2010
update

zone test session 2 = +2

12 GAME score LWLWWWW

ZONE BR 256(+6)

CHEERS

HAMSUP
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: Kattila on May 10, 04:41 AM 2010
Are you playing for real Hamsup ? What about Hidra, in profit or not ?
The *two HG s *,      The Zone Vs  Hydra
Keep up posted.     ;)
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 10, 12:13 PM 2010
Quote from: Kattila on May 10, 04:41 AM 2010
Are you playing for real Hamsup ? What about Hidra, in profit or not ?
The *two HG s *,      The Zone Vs  Hydra
Keep up posted.     ;)

hi katilla

yeah im playing both for  real. Hydra would take a longer time to play so only once a day if possible :D

cheers
hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 10, 02:25 PM 2010
played hydra for a while, wasnt a complete session as i stopped way earLY as i was tired.

Hydra

+2

Overall BR

ZONE 256(+6)

HYDRA 252(+2)

CHEERS
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: Blood Angel on May 10, 02:48 PM 2010
Nice going mate!
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 11, 02:19 AM 2010
Quote from: Blood Angel on May 10, 02:48 PM 2010
Nice going mate!


Cheers buddy early days yet.

Zone session 3

LWW + 3

Overall BR

ZONE 259(+9)

HYDRA 252(+2)

Hamsup :D
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 11, 02:41 PM 2010
HYDRA TEST 2 (-27)

horrible session. Mistakes made here and there but after checkin again .. still would have lost anyways. stopped b4 the SL of -35 as i was getting agitated :S.

Hmm im just wondering, with the hydra, the losses seem to clump together.

anyways stack .. just an idea. Use the bac system and apply it to the hydra as an improvement to the bet selection. Wonder whether that would work. Lol could use the progression the same way. Although i doubt that u could do all that in 30 secs
:(



oh wells

Overall BR

ZONE 259(+9)

HYDRA 225(-25)

Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: Kattila on May 11, 04:16 PM 2010
Uhhh....!  Hydra, why don t you test more before play for real.
Do you think is an HG? Will see.
I play my systems for real , and i am up,  and i do not have
any *HG* .

good luck.
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 12, 06:24 AM 2010
i have tested lol. HOwever in my opinion, the emotions involved are substantially different when you're playin for real. The unit size im usin for the hydra is the smallest available as im not that big a fan at this pt of time. I think that the best selection is iffy to say the least. THe gaming board im ok with.


However, i would probably give it a while i guess, but man it takes a long time to play;

Anyways ill give  other systems  a look as well and we'll see how it goes :D

PS Its great that the ruffians over at vls arent over here -.- . Any news on lanky ? is he a member here? Havnt heard from him in ages



cheers to all
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: VLS on May 12, 12:18 PM 2010
Quote from: hamsup_sotong on May 12, 06:24 AM 2010
Any news on lanky ? is he a member here? Havnt heard from him in ages

He's taking a big rest from public roulette forums. I have invited him; he told me he isn't likely to sign-up for the time being, but he left the door open for the future.

If he sees we are gentlemen in here and this forum's dynamics is nothing like the others then hopefully he will eventually join us.
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 12, 12:36 PM 2010
Quote from: VLS on May 12, 12:18 PM 2010
He's taking a big rest from public roulette forums. I have invited him; he told me he isn't likely to sign-up for the time being, but he left the door open for the future.

If he sees we are gentlemen in here and this forum's dynamics is nothing like the others then hopefully he will eventually join us.


ahh got it vic. THanks




Ok back to the update on the testing. Ill be putting the hydra on hold at the moment as it doesnt seem so good for me. BUt who knows i may play it again soon :p

Anyways, i was over at vls looking at some of the systems there, and i that caught my eye was matt jono's one "balls" of steel.

PLayed it and it was fun :D lol. So im going to incorporate this  into the testing as well :D. Others may be added in the future as well.

"ball of steel " test 1

+65 :D

Overall BR

ZONE 259(+9)

HYDRA 225(-25)

BALLS OF STEEL 315(+65)


CHEERS
HAMSUP
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 12, 01:57 PM 2010
ZONE SESSION 4

+1

LLWW


Overall BR

ZONE 260(+10)

HYDRA 225(-25)

BALLS OF STEEL 315(+65)

Cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 13, 01:54 AM 2010
ZONE SESSION 5

LWW +4


Overall BR

ZONE 264(+14)

HYDRA 225(-25)

BALLS OF STEEL 315(+65)

Cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 13, 08:01 AM 2010
ZONE SESSION 6

LWW +3


Overall BR

ZONE 264(+17)

HYDRA 225(-25)

BALLS OF STEEL 315(+65)

Cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 13, 12:27 PM 2010
"ball of steel " test 2

+15

HMM  had a scary emotional rollercoaster ride today for this one. Down from the get go until the very last spin where i escaped with a win and then carried on until i hit +ve territory where i stopped. Ha but as they say a win is a win :D

Overall BR

ZONE 264(+17)

HYDRA 225(-25)

BALLS OF STEEL 315(+80)

Cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 15, 09:43 AM 2010
ZONE SESSION 7

LWW +2


Overall BR

ZONE 264(+19)

HYDRA 225(-25)

BALLS OF STEEL 315(+65)

Cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 15, 10:19 AM 2010
"ball of steel " test 2

+32


Overall BR

ZONE 264(+19)

HYDRA 225(-25)

BALLS OF STEEL 347(+97)
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 16, 01:05 PM 2010
Insert Quote
ZONE SESSION 7

LWW +4


Overall BR

ZONE 264(+23)

HYDRA 225(-25)

BALLS OF STEEL 315(+65)

Cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 16, 01:06 PM 2010
arggggggggggggh typo ... theres no modify button T_T

its zone session 8 loool

Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: ScoobyDoo on May 17, 03:21 AM 2010
Hamsup,

I don't know how you are calculating your ZONE sessions but the way I see it, you are doing it wrong if you are using the 1,1,2,3 progression.

W on first =+2
LW win on second = +1
LLW win on third = +2
LLLW win on fourth = +2

Session#4 should be +4 (LLW - W)
Session#5 should be +3 (LW - W)
Session#7 should be +3 (LW - W)
Session#8 should be +3 (LW - W)

Let me know if I missed something.

Scooby Doo


Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 17, 06:28 AM 2010
hi bro yeah im using the 1123

yeah u got it wrong .. the first L is the virtual loss sometimes my wins are +1 + 1 and there for total of plus 2.

hahaa maybe im not clear on this.


Session 8 was  a virtual loss folllowed by 2 X 2 pt wins :D for a total of 4

session 7 would have been a virtual L followed by 2 wins on spin 6 and therefore +2

session 4 was like this virtual L followed by a 2nd L ( -7), after 2 L's bet triple( i normally go 3 instead of double) stakes so won 6 ( -1 ) and a final win of 2 for a score of +1 and thus LLWW



Cheers hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 17, 02:34 PM 2010
hi guys .. update

Horrrrrible session today almost the session from hell, hit the 3L plateau but i won the 4th :D. Still lost overall but oh wells, the adrenaline rush from the 4th bet was exciting :P

ZONE SESSION 9

LLWLWWWLLLWW

-18




Overall BR

ZONE 255(+5)

HYDRA 225(-25)

BALLS OF STEEL 347(+97)

Cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 18, 01:45 PM 2010
ZONE SESSION 10

LWW

+4




Overall BR

ZONE 255(+9)

HYDRA 225(-25)

BALLS OF STEEL 347(+97)

Cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: Blood Angel on May 19, 01:46 AM 2010
Still going well Bro.    .    .    still watching  ;).   .   .   particularly interested in the Zone results (although testing something else at the moment)
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 19, 06:38 AM 2010
yeah seems fine at the moment, but hey im prepared to lose this amount so happy testing guys !!!!

JOrdan's system is probably not for me though :D


Cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 19, 10:44 AM 2010
ZONE SESSION 11

LWW

+3




Overall BR

ZONE 262(+12)

HYDRA 225(-25)

BALLS OF STEEL 347(+97)

Cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: ScoobyDoo on May 19, 06:24 PM 2010
For those of you didn't know, Stackbundles posted on the other "forum" every day. He started with 20 units playing the ZONE and built up his bank roll to over 1000 units. At that point he stopped posting his results....I guess because he was too busy winning money.

If you follow the rules EXACTLY as described, you all can do the same.
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 20, 12:01 AM 2010
basic rules are there, however certain things are still iffy to say the least. Is there a final version?

hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: ScoobyDoo on May 20, 12:21 AM 2010
Did you look in the "FULL SYSTEMS" section of this site? Shackbundles posted the rules there.
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 20, 12:14 PM 2010
yeah bro my bad had a look at it :D

Back to the testing tonight. Ill be adding in giz's version of the " zone " as well. LEts see what happens.

:D
hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 20, 04:00 PM 2010
hi guys,

update just added giz's adaptation of the zone to the test

Didnt start so well today, but better days are yet to come.

oh yes im dropping the hydra.

Gizmo's progression for 2/1 test 1



-64




Overall BR

ZONE 262(+12)

HYDRA 225(-25)(discontinued)

BALLS OF STEEL 347(+97)

Giz's progression for 2/1 186(-64)

Cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: BobsCar on May 20, 11:16 PM 2010
For those of you didn't know, Stackbundles posted on the other "forum" every day.  He started with 20 units playing the ZONE and built up his bank roll to over 1000 units.  At that point he stopped posting his results. . . . I guess because he was too busy winning money. ;;;;;;;

How much has Mr Stockbundle won up to now? Is it a lot more?
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: StackBundles on May 21, 04:32 AM 2010
hello bob i got bored of posting results because they wasnt taken seriously i got just under 2000 but had to stop due to paying a tax bill off im working my way back up again cheers
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 21, 09:34 AM 2010
Hi peeps

ZONE SESSION 12

LWW

+4

Gizmo's progression for 2/1 test 2



+18




Overall BR

ZONE 266(+16)

BALLS OF STEEL 347(+97)

Giz's progression for 2/1 204(-46)

Cheers
Hamsup


Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 21, 04:03 PM 2010
ZONE SESSION 13

LWW

+3










Overall BR

ZONE 269(+19)

BALLS OF STEEL 347(+97)

Giz's progression for 2/1 204(-46)

Cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 22, 12:32 PM 2010
ZONE SESSION 14

LWW

+4




Overall BR

ZONE 273(+23)

BALLS OF STEEL 347(+97)

Giz's progression for 2/1 204(-46)

Cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: ScoobyDoo on May 24, 12:34 AM 2010
Hi Hamsup,

Nice testing. Keep posting. There are several of us who are following what you are doing.
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 25, 02:12 PM 2010
Quote from: ScoobyDoo on May 24, 12:34 AM 2010
Hi Hamsup,

Nice testing. Keep posting. There are several of us who are following what you are doing.

Thanks scooby for the heads up :D

ZONE SESSION 15

LWW

+4


ZONE SESSION 16

LWW

+3


Overall BR

ZONE 280(+30)

BALLS OF STEEL 347(+97)

Giz's progression for 2/1 204(-46)

Cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 25, 02:55 PM 2010
"ball of steel " test 3

+38

Overall BR

ZONE 280(+30)

BALLS OF STEEL 385(+135)

Giz's progression for 2/1 204(-46)

Cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 26, 03:35 AM 2010
ZONE SESSION 17

LWW

+4

Overall BR

ZONE 284(+34)

BALLS OF STEEL 385(+135)

Giz's progression for 2/1 204(-46)

cheers
Hamsup


Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: Mr Johnson on May 26, 06:53 AM 2010
HI  hamsup_sotong

great testing hamsup's

not done alot ot testing on the balls of steel system for a while as i have no computer at home.   iv been testing a dozen system that ill be sharing soon to try get a bigger sample of results. 

cheers,
mattjono
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 26, 08:01 AM 2010
Quote from: Mr Johnson on May 26, 06:53 AM 2010
HI  hamsup_sotong

great testing hamsup's

not done alot ot testing on the balls of steel system for a while as i have no computer at home.   iv been testing a dozen system that ill be sharing soon to try get a bigger sample of results. 

cheers,
mattjono

Hiya mattjono,

Looking forward to see you share your results too :D


Cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 26, 12:37 PM 2010
ZONE SESSION 18

LWW

+2

Overall BR

ZONE 286(+36)

BALLS OF STEEL 385(+135)

Giz's progression for 2/1 204(-46)

cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 27, 12:17 PM 2010
hi guys,

testing wont be so frequent for the next couple of weeks as i have a few things to handle at the moment. Ill still play as an when i can but i probably wont play as often.

Anyways best regards to all who are following this thread and good luck to all members

Cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Jun 01, 08:36 AM 2010
HI GUYS, back again anyways horrible session just abt as bad as it gets save for the loss on the 4th game( close call though hit on the 8th spin )

ZONE SESSION 19

LWLWLWWLLLWL

-19

Overall BR

ZONE 286(+17)

BALLS OF STEEL 385(+135)

Giz's progression for 2/1 204(-46)

cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Jun 01, 09:39 AM 2010
this one fared better :D

"ball of steel " test 4


+17

Overall BR

ZONE 286(+17)

BALLS OF STEEL 385(+152)

Giz's progression for 2/1 204(-46)

cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Jun 01, 01:14 PM 2010
ZONE SESSION 20

LWW

+4

Overall BR

ZONE 271(+21)

BALLS OF STEEL 385(+152)

Giz's progression for 2/1 204(-46)

cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Jun 02, 01:57 AM 2010
ZONE SESSION 21

LWW

+4

Overall BR

ZONE 275(+25)

BALLS OF STEEL 385(+152)

Giz's progression for 2/1 204(-46)

cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: Blood Angel on Jun 02, 06:31 PM 2010
 8)
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Jun 03, 09:52 AM 2010
quick session took me all of 10 mins


Insert Quote
ZONE SESSION 22

LWW

+4

Overall BR

ZONE 279(+29)

BALLS OF STEEL 385(+152)

Giz's progression for 2/1 204(-46)

cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Jun 03, 02:04 PM 2010
ZONE SESSION 23

LWW

+4

Overall BR

ZONE 283(+33)

BALLS OF STEEL 385(+152)

Giz's progression for 2/1 204(-46)

cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Jun 04, 10:27 AM 2010
ZONE SESSION 24

LWW

+3

Overall BR

ZONE 286(+36)

BALLS OF STEEL 385(+152)

Giz's progression for 2/1 204(-46)

cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Jun 04, 02:35 PM 2010
ZONE SESSION 24

played it slightly differently today as i had a loss early. Here's the breakdown

2DZL(VIRTUAL), 1DW(+2), 2DL(-7),3DW(+2) 2DW(+4)( double stakes as it lost previous 2)

+1

Overall BR

ZONE 287(+37)

BALLS OF STEEL 385(+152)

Giz's progression for 2/1 204(-46)

cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Jun 08, 12:50 PM 2010
ZONE SESSION 25

LWW
+3

"ball of steel " test 4

+38


Overall BR

ALL original  BRS ARE 250 UNITS :D UNLESS SPECIFIED THERE MAY be some discrepancies in the total amounts, however the numbers in the brackets should be  accurate

ZONE 290(+40)

BALLS OF STEEL 440(+190)

Giz's progression for 2/1 204(-46)

cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Jun 15, 02:39 PM 2010
Hit the session from hell :(

ZONE SESSION 26

LLLL
-98

ZONE 192
(-58)

BALLS OF STEEL 440(+190)


cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Jun 17, 05:02 AM 2010
playing will be infrequent due to world cup. tried something different today. results were awesome. based on tcd's method. still havnt got it down pat though. Will talk about it more on his thread.


anyways

linear betting 1

+234 :):)

ZONE 192
(-58)

BALLS OF STEEL 440(+190)

Tcd's linear betting 484(+234)

cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Jun 18, 01:29 PM 2010
ZONE SESSION 27

LWW
+4

ZONE 196(-54)

BALLS OF STEEL 440(+190)

Tcd's linear betting 484(+234)

cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Jun 18, 02:16 PM 2010
"ball of steel " test 5

+8

ZONE 196(-54)

BALLS OF STEEL 448(+198)

Tcd's linear betting 484(+234)

cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: VLS on Jun 19, 04:48 PM 2010
...Balls of steel...  8)
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Jul 02, 02:37 PM 2010
Quote from: VLS on Jun 19, 04:48 PM 2010
...Balls of steel...  8)

:D im not the system creator victor :p

ZONE SESSION 28

LWW
+4

"ball of steel " test 6

+8

ZONE 200(-50)

BALLS OF STEEL 456(+206)

Tcd's linear betting 484(+234)
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: VLS on Jul 02, 04:40 PM 2010
Quote from: hamsup_sotong on Jul 02, 02:37 PM 2010
:D im not the system creator Victor :p

I see!

Quote from: hamsup_sotong on Jul 02, 02:37 PM 2010
Tcd's linear betting 484(+234)

That linear betting is looking healthy too.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: iggiv on Jul 02, 11:50 PM 2010
what is "BALLS OF STEEL"? thanx
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Jul 03, 01:22 AM 2010
Quote from: iggiv on Jul 02, 11:50 PM 2010
what is "BALLS OF STEEL"? thanx

hi iggiv,

its a system i found of vls by matt jono

this is my own summary of it.
track 24 spins until there are 6 streets that are hit 0 or 1 times.( i count the zero as well)

after that play a positive progression with those 6 streets upon a hit. ie my 6 streets are 1st,2nd,3,4,5,6. On a hit of the street, place an additional unit on it

10 hits , thats street 4 ... so i place 1 unit on 4th street, if 11 hits then 2 units

winning target in 30 spins for me is about 30 units .... after 30 spins its up to u, but normally i'll stop if im in profit ..... if i see 3 0's in 30 spins, i'll normally stop the game, or just play the 0's looool

BR for me is 80 units.

glhf
cheers
hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Jul 03, 01:23 AM 2010

That linear betting is looking healthy too.  :thumbsup:
[/quote]

lool ive only played that once ... too preoccupied with the world cup :D


cheers vic
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: iggiv on Jul 03, 01:43 PM 2010
thank u Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: VLS on Jul 03, 09:23 PM 2010
Quote from: hamsup_sotong on Jul 03, 01:23 AM 2010
lool ive only played that once ...

With a 250u bank, you've achieved +234, which means 93,6% (in a single session).

Most conservative people would advice 10% as a top, this is quite a feat.

If you can do it roughly 1 to 1, then you can move to bahamas and have daiquiri (link:://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daiquiri) by the beach in between sessions  :)
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Jul 04, 12:37 AM 2010
Quote from: VLS on Jul 03, 09:23 PM 2010
With a 250u bank, you've achieved +234, which means 93,6% (in a single session).

Most conservative people would advice 10% as a top, this is quite a feat.

If you can do it roughly 1 to 1, then you can move to bahamas and have daiquiri (link:://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daiquiri) by the beach in between sessions  :)

lol not sure how good it was but i just continued until i lost 6 in a row or 36 units .. :D

hamsup
Quote from: iggiv on Jul 03, 01:43 PM 2010
thank  you Hamsup

no worries mate

Cheers
hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: Mr Johnson on Jul 06, 12:34 PM 2010
Quote from: hamsup_sotong on Jul 03, 01:22 AM 2010
hi iggiv,

its a system I found of vls by matt jono

this is my own summary of it.
track 24 spins until there are 6 streets that are hit 0 or 1 times.( I count the zero as well)

after that play a positive progression with those 6 streets upon a hit. ie my 6 streets are 1st,2nd,3,4,5,6. On a hit of the street, place an additional unit on it

10 hits , that's street 4 ... so I place 1 unit on 4th street, if 11 hits then 2 units

winning target in 30 spins for me is about 30 units .... after 30 spins its up to u, but normally i'll stop if im in profit ..... if I see 3 0's in 30 spins, i'll normally stop the game, or just play the 0's looool

BR for me is 80 units.

glhf
cheers
hamsup


that's spot on mate.

i like that you have changed the target to +30units in 30 spins.

have you lost a session yet,

lately I have been testing this with a signal trigger so the streets would need 2 hits before we start betting positive progression, However the session can get very long and boring.

but its the profit that counts and the winning sessions are way above the losing sessions.

mattjono

great testing hamsup  :thumbsup:     
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Jul 06, 01:36 PM 2010
Quote from: Mr Johnson on Jul 06, 12:34 PM 2010

that's spot on mate.

i like that you have changed the target to +30units in 30 spins.

have you lost a session yet,

lately I have been testing this with a signal trigger so the streets would need 2 hits before we start betting positive progression, However the session can get very long and boring.

but its the profit that counts and the winning sessions are way above the losing sessions.

mattjono

great testing hamsup  :thumbsup:     

cheers for the comments bro ...

i havnt loss yet but hey who knows? loool its pretty fun though ....

as for your tweak is it going well ? i would prefer it being  boring as long as it wins... if the figure is too small, then increase the unit :D

cheers and happy testing

:thumbsup:

hamsup


Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: Mr Johnson on Jul 06, 02:25 PM 2010

HERE is an example..

using the signal+trigger betfore betting.





12..............
25
     1
23
    29
----------
15
    22
31
     7
22
     3
25
    30
25
    22
13
    36
27
     3
28
    18
28
----------
    23
32............4,5,6,,,,7,8,9,,,10,11,12,,,16,17,18,,19,20,21,,,34,35,36
     1      
14   
     8      S
15      
    28      
13      
     3      
  3      
    14   
18         S
     0      
14      
     5      S
----------
31         
    36      S
  7         T
    30   L-1
  5      L-1   T
    13   L-2
12      L-2   S
     9   W+10
23      L-3
     5   W+9
22      L-4
    21   L-4   S
10      L-4   T
    15   L-5
23      L-5
----------
     9   WW+19
19      L-6   T
     4   WW+17
10      W+4      
    13   L-9
  4      WWW+27.........END SESSION +40UNITS


:thumbsup:
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: StackBundles on Jul 06, 06:40 PM 2010
seems good system someone post everything about balls of steel in a topic so we can all have a look whats worse drawdown so far?
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Jul 08, 03:36 AM 2010
stop loss is 80 units stack


:D
hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Sep 13, 01:10 AM 2010
hi chaps havent had time to play in a while. but when i have had the time i played tcd's linear betting using the carpet and i've done really well so thank you TCD !!!!  ;D


Last time i posted on this i had

484( + 284)

but that was a pretty long while ago looool.

so i guess i'll restart the count again  :p

BR for me per session is 144. For easier viewing i'll put just the wins or the losses in.

I've done about 15 sessions of this since then

and as of now my profits/ losses stands at :

Tcd's linear betting carpet only (+778.24 units)

:D

hopefully there's more to come
cheers
hamsup





Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: VLS on Sep 13, 08:28 AM 2010
Good to see you back dear Hamsup.

The profit with Twocando's method sure looks tasty  :thumbsup:

Keep us posted on your results.
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Sep 13, 08:30 PM 2010
tcd's linear betting (carpet) session 16

slow session +18


total Tcd's linear betting carpet only (+796.24 units)


:D
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: VLS on Sep 13, 10:50 PM 2010
Quote from: hamsup_sotong on Sep 13, 08:30 PM 2010
slow session +18

...but a win is a win :)

May the good news continue on this one  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: A3on on Sep 14, 03:42 PM 2010
Hello Hamsup.
Great results over there :)

Can you please explain me how to play Tcd's linear betting carpet?

Best regards,
Afonso
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Sep 14, 04:43 PM 2010
Quote from: A3on on Sep 14, 03:42 PM 2010
Hello Hamsup.
Great results over there :)

Can you please explain me how to play Tcd's linear betting carpet?

Best regards,
Afonso

errr dude i have a thread on it under full systems >.< and u already posted in it T_T

hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: A3on on Sep 14, 05:01 PM 2010
Omg, really sorry my friend.
Now i remember, I was confused and thinking in something else :)

I will make some tests with it, I'm very impressed with the results  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Nov 06, 12:30 PM 2010
Hi Chaps

Have not posted in a while as i have been busy. Just to give an update. I'm Still playing the linear way. Doing quite well for now ( lucky i guess) with a little tweak.

The original method I've played was flat betting. Another alternative would be to use Atlantis's leveler progression.

Anyways my +/- for the linear stands at +882

Would update as i play although it may be infrequent.

cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Nov 10, 02:12 AM 2010
Hi chaps update for the linear betting stands at stands at +1153



 :P :P :P :P
cheers
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Nov 16, 01:07 AM 2010
Hi chaps next update for the linear betting stands at stands at +1273  :twisted: :twisted:


cheers
hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: Droganson on Nov 16, 08:15 AM 2010
Hello Hamsup! Do you mind revealing what is the linear betting that is doing so well for you?I would love to try it out for myself.
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Nov 16, 08:41 AM 2010
Quote from: Droganson on Nov 16, 08:15 AM 2010
Hello Hamsup! Do you mind revealing what is the linear betting that is doing so well for you?I would love to try it out for myself.


Sup dude heres the link


link:://rouletteforum.cc/full-systems/hamsup%27s-version-of-linear-betting-%28carpet-only%29/ (link:://rouletteforum.cc/full-systems/hamsup%27s-version-of-linear-betting-%28carpet-only%29/)


either play flat betting 100 unit br or 500 units with the leveler progression ( 1,2,4,8)

things to note:

1.   profit target 100 units. However this is not set in stone. IF i hit 100 very quickly i normally play another set of 6 spins and try and push the winnings further.

2. Max spins recommended would be around 100. DO Not exceed it if possible ..... if you're chasing a loss consider closing the session at a small loss or a small win.

I'll add in more as it comes to my head....  But until then have fun with it and see if it works for you :D
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: Carsch on Nov 17, 02:22 PM 2010
Quote from: hamsup_sotong on May 10, 12:29 AM 2010
Oh, the tests are conducted in real money. :D

My goodness, you're a daredevil.     ;D

Now, i have no idea how you play this system, hamsup. I didn't see anything that says how to play it. I haven't read all the other posts, in case it's already explained.
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: A3on on Nov 17, 02:49 PM 2010
Quote from: Carsch on Nov 17, 02:22 PM 2010
My goodness, you're a daredevil.     ;D

Now, I have no idea how you play this system, hamsup. I didn't see anything that says how to play it. I haven't read all the other posts, in case it's already explained.

I already tested this system some time ago.
It's all explained in the link that hamsup provided you :)

It's indeed a fantastic system, unfortunatly I had to stop my testings as I didn't had any more time for it :(

I hope that maybe in a couple of days I will be able to resume it

Best regards,
Afonso
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: Carsch on Nov 17, 05:51 PM 2010
Thanks Alfonso; i'll look for the link. I must have missed it. :)
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: A3on on Nov 17, 05:59 PM 2010
I would like to provide you some of my testing sessions and the playing rules that I had writed

Unfortunatly my pc broked and I lost all my information in it
=/

As soon as I get back to this system I will be very glad to help in what I can :)

Best regards,
Afonso
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Nov 18, 12:23 AM 2010
Quote from: Carsch on Nov 17, 02:22 PM 2010
My goodness, you're a daredevil.     ;D


Ah... lol nothing beats the real thing ... simulation can only do so much ....  :xd:
Quote from: A3on on Nov 17, 05:59 PM 2010
I would like to provide you some of my testing sessions and the playing rules that I had writed

Unfortunatly my pc broked and I lost all my information in it
=/

As soon as I get back to this system I will be very glad to help in what I can :)

Best regards,
Afonso

No worries alfonso .... Good luck with your testing

cheers to all
Hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Nov 21, 03:39 AM 2010

Hi chaps next update for the linear betting : bal (+1466) 

:twisted: :twisted:


cheers
hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: A3on on Nov 21, 11:47 AM 2010
Quote from: hamsup_sotong on Nov 21, 03:39 AM 2010
Hi chaps next update for the linear betting : bal (+1466) 

:twisted: :twisted:


cheers
hamsup


Congratulations my friend !
Hope you're using big units ;D
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Nov 21, 12:25 PM 2010
Quote from: A3on on Nov 21, 11:47 AM 2010
Congratulations my friend !
Hope you're using big units ;D


cheers buddy. Getting there i hope lol

hamsup :D
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Nov 28, 07:58 AM 2010
Hi chaps next update for the linear betting :
sessions played (65)
bal (+1638)

Hit my first loss though this week  >:(

Oh well, it happens eh :p

Twisted Twisted


cheers
hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Mar 08, 09:22 AM 2011
hi, there guys just wondering whether anyone here has tried this or is playing this?

Because im still playing this and am doing pretty well. After 8k spins im up about 2578 units.

Will update on the way i play this in the other thread.

cheers
hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: GLC on Mar 08, 02:19 PM 2011
Quote from: hamsup_sotong on Mar 08, 09:22 AM 2011
hi, there guys just wondering whether anyone here has tried this or is playing this?

Because I'm still playing this and am doing pretty well. After 8k spins I'm up about 2578 units.

Will update on the way i play this in the other thread.

cheers
hamsup

.32 units per spin.  That's a good number for 8,000 spins.

I for one would really like to know how you play it.

Thanks for hanging in there and keeping us in the loop.

George 
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on Mar 08, 09:14 PM 2011
HI george .

The updated method has already been posted in detail in the other tread.

link:://rouletteforum.cc/full-systems/hamsup%27s-version-of-linear-betting-(carpet-only)/ (link:://rouletteforum.cc/full-systems/hamsup%27s-version-of-linear-betting-(carpet-only)/)


Cheers
hamsup
Title: Re: hamsup's testing
Post by: hamsup_sotong on May 18, 10:19 PM 2011
HI CHAPS UPDATE on this one. Still playing it and going well :D


after 12k spins (+3427)

anyone by any chance playing this???

cheers

hamsup