On zero and double zero wheels:
On the long term, there is no winner system. Roulette with 0 and 00 can't be beaten. Only luck can win or playing the trend (IF ONE EXIST...) or VB. Period.
try to prove me I am wrong >:D
However, should you think you have a winning system : you can PM me yours and I can code it (cf RX section).
Now I'll code only at request and won't produce charts or dgt for free anymore.
Send me the money. I code. You get your system into RX (the .dgt file) along with the charts.
Cheers!
Quote from: boatran8 on Mar 28, 01:40 PM 2012
On zero and double zero wheels:
On the long term, there is no winner system. Roulette with 0 and 00 can't be beaten. Only luck can win or playing the trend (IF ONE EXIST...) or VB. Period.
try to prove me I am wrong >:D
However, should you think you have a winning system : you can PM me yours and I can code it (cf RX section).
Now I'll code only at request and won't produce charts or dgt for free anymore.
Send me the money. I code. You get your system into RX (the .dgt file) along with the charts.
Cheers!
And why would anybody send you a winning method to code...can't get it.
Or cause you said there is no winning system...you are wrong of course,but
I have no intention of proving that to you nor anybody else.It seems some
here/Luckoftheirish/ are desperate to get a winning method by offering to code
it.No sir thank you.
Quote from: vile on Mar 28, 02:44 PM 2012
And why would anybody send you a winning method to code...can't get it.
Or cause you said there is no winning system...you are wrong of course,but
I have no intention of proving that to you nor anybody else.It seems some
here/Luckoftheirish/ are desperate to get a winning method by offering to code
it.No sir thank you.
Why are you this kind "agressive" ?
This deduction is based on tons of systems I have tried.
ON THE LONG RUN (past 1M spins e.g.), I am sure there is no. That's why I'm offering paid services of coding for people who would like to test their methods overs some thousands spins.
As I don't believe in holy grail for roulette anymore, anyone can send me a system to test. I'll happily code it. I don't mind the system. As I'll keep it confidential.
I'm sure there are people there who would like to get their system coded. If you pay I code.
Should you want to compete, no problem. Anyone may code for free. I really don't care.
I have posted enough codes for free on this forum. I hence think I made proof of my coding skills.
Just have a look to the GUT I coded or whatever other system I posted on the forum, particularly in the download section.
Time is money. And coding takes time. Then I code now for money, sorry. I did my best; I can't code for free all the rest of my life hoping someone would give me an holy grail that even doesn't exist for me now.
regards
QuoteOnly luck can win or playing the trend (IF ONE EXIST...) or VB. Period.
VB is just one way to exploit the predictability of a wheel. There are many others, and much better ways.
QuoteIf you pay I code
There's the problem you are facing, as you may or may not know, I have been coding for roulette for the past 4 or 5 years, I also started with RX but got tired of it and moved on to bots, I have coded for many on this and other forums, I charge too as I got tired of testing for free, the problem is, there's not many gamblers that will pay for your services, even for $50 they are more happy chucking it at a casino and losing it to them than have someone code it and run it through hours of results, they know what will eventually happen to their idea, it will fizzle out at some point.
I firmly do believe that at some point the right conbination of method and money managment will surface that will be able to sustain a very long run, we will never find a HG but there are happenings that I have noticed over the years, not waiting for 24 reds or blacks etc, but certain conditions that form, these can only be seen by analysing what's in front of you at that moment, for this you need to create trackers with displays of what you are monitoring, for example you may notice while tracking sequences that their transitions coincide with other changes and over time you will see them and start mentally saying to yourself, it will now spin a black number, you did this purely by watching the marquee, but had you been placing bets you would not have that thought. I have always said on threads, especially the matrix type methods, they were born by visual stimulation, when players write down on paper, nobody set out to form a matrix, it just happened from what they were writing down and how they wrote it, maybe the paper was only wide enough to take 4 or 5 chars, so the matrix was formed. There's been times when I manulally spin the game and count how many spins has passed, as I was counting up, 1, 2 ,3 ,4 etc, do you know how often the landed number was the same as the numbe rit landed on!! try it youself, I created a bot for that specific method, simple method, yes it worked for some sessions but the gaps were too far for any recovery method, labby, dalambert, single number progression etc etc, that was born from the minds eye.
Or maybe I'm just mad, who knows, who cares, it's not costing me anything and it sure as h3ll isn't feeding the casinos any profit, but one day, maybe one day
These happenings that we think we notice, may or may not be there often enough but there are times when a bot is born with what I thought I noticed, most of the time it eventually bombs out, but sometimes I have left the bot running on a game over night for 4 or 5 nights and each morning the results are excellent, so you start planning how you are going to spend the money you take from the game lol, bang, a bad night, no good. At this point you think fvck it, I give up, but you might walk away for 10 minutes but then you start wondering why it failed, it lasted so long, 100's of thousands of spins .................... I must be able to tweak it ROFLMAO, and the ball starts rolling all over again.
If you have the time and patience you will put a script together that will smack you in the chops, you think to yourself, this one has legs ...... so far, so you watch until it dies, tweak, watch again, what works today may not, probably wont, work tomorrow more often than not but if nobody tries we'll never know and atleast it keeps the mind active and we all write about it on the web so future generations can read the archives and laugh at us, by then they may have the answer and there are no casinos left as games were being beaten or will they say, sheesh those were some daft ancestors, they faught the small wheel for centuries, why?
There's some good sayings for people like us.
"There's none so blind as those that don't want to see" "Only a fool keeps doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different result" This time next year, we'll be millionares ............ Rodders
Let war commence, back to the nuthouse
Thanks for your clever input Superman.
RXbot will soon be released.
A bot into RX.
Will give anyone who knows coding into RX the ability to get its own bot. RX coding can be very simple and very "hard" also. I can understand why you change for another coding technology.
But I will be keeping coding into RX because of that RXbot feature coming.
Though I am charging a fee for systems, I'm keen on giving a hand.
Regards
Hello Boatran8,
Don't give up yet. You are right.We will not find any holy grail which I believe is an illusion. I could be wrong. But you can find a winning system, which in the long run will make more than loss.I will show you later how to work on this.
I fully agree with Superman regarding this, his observation is true. That's what I am trying to tell you above.There are ways to win, if you approach from the right angle.I will not say more in the open.
Regards
Maybe someday all get to see things from the proper angle. Meanwhile, it will be a mystery. After several years of study to some of us still have a long way to go.
Quote from: superman on Mar 28, 05:13 PM 2012
There's the problem you are facing, as you may or may not know, I have been coding for roulette for the past 4 or 5 years, I also started with RX but got tired of it and moved on to bots, I have coded for many on this and other forums, I charge too as I got tired of testing for free, the problem is, there's not many gamblers that will pay for your services, even for $50 they are more happy chucking it at a casino and losing it to them than have someone code it and run it through hours of results, they know what will eventually happen to their idea, it will fizzle out at some point.
I firmly do believe that at some point the right conbination of method and money management will surface that will be able to sustain a very long run, we will never find a method but there are happenings that I have noticed over the years, not waiting for 24 reds or blacks etc, but certain conditions that form, these can only be seen by analysing what's in front of you at that moment, for this you need to create trackers with displays of what you are monitoring, for example you may notice while tracking sequences that their transitions coincide with other changes and over time you will see them and start mentally saying to yourself, it will now spin a black number, you did this purely by watching the marquee, but had you been placing bets you would not have that thought. I have always said on threads, especially the matrix type methods, they were born by visual stimulation, when players write down on paper, nobody set out to form a matrix, it just happened from what they were writing down and how they wrote it, maybe the paper was only wide enough to take 4 or 5 chars, so the matrix was formed. There's been times when I manulally spin the game and count how many spins has passed, as I was counting up, 1, 2 ,3 ,4 etc, do you know how often the landed number was the same as the numbe rit landed on!! try it youself, I created a bot for that specific method, simple method, yes it worked for some sessions but the gaps were too far for any recovery method, labby, dalambert, single number progression etc etc, that was born from the minds eye.
Or maybe I'm just mad, who knows, who cares, it's not costing me anything and it sure as h3ll isn't feeding the casinos any profit, but one day, maybe one day
These happenings that we think we notice, may or may not be there often enough but there are times when a bot is born with what I thought I noticed, most of the time it eventually bombs out, but sometimes I have left the bot running on a game over night for 4 or 5 nights and each morning the results are excellent, so you start planning how you are going to spend the money you take from the game LoL, bang, a bad night, no good. At this point you think fvck it, I give up, but you might walk away for 10 minutes but then you start wondering why it failed, it lasted so long, 100's of thousands of spins .................... I must be able to tweak it ROFLMAO, and the ball starts rolling all over again.
If you have the time and patience you will put a script together that will smack you in the chops, you think to yourself, this one has legs ...... so far, so you watch until it dies, tweak, watch again, what works today may not, probably won't, work tomorrow more often than not but if nobody tries we'll never know and atleast it keeps the mind active and we all write about it on the web so future generations can read the archives and laugh at us, by then they may have the answer and there are no casinos left as games were being beaten or will they say, sheesh those were some daft ancestors, they faught the small wheel for centuries, why?
There's some good sayings for people like us.
"There's none so blind as those that don't want to see"
"Only a fool keeps doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different result"
This time next year, we'll be millionares ............ Rodders
Let war commence, back to the nuthouse
Hello Superman
You dont need to be a superman hehe to beat roulette. Your post was right on point.
But nothing replaces pen and paper testing or manual testing on Rx. Some systems can not be properly coded. There are too many factors like need for adjusting based on what you see on the board. I always test against 5000 live spins anything that looks promising plus i use Rx.
Its not enough but gives you some ideas. Then i play it virtually in my casino.
Ultimately no amount of testing will guarantee anything but do you know other way?
I never play anything blindly based on other people recommendations even though some of them are considered gurus. No offense to anybody but its my money i play with.
Regards
Holy grail....not a chance! Einstein was indeed correct, but winning system? Of course there are winning systems.
The "win" is in the self control. Forget Einstein.....lets quote Kenny Rogers.
"you gotta know when to hold em, know when to fold em, know when to walk away, know when to run"
I've got £150 out of William Hill this weekend betting on repeats in 24, along (sometimes) their splits. Also, the odd single hit knowing it has a good chance of doubling.
Its a winning system this weekend!
My wife went to a clarevoyant with some friends, that just happened to be in a Casino. After the readings, they all went into the casino.
She listens to me go on about repeats, so she checked the marquee and set off with £10 of chips. She left an hour later with £175.
That was a winning system, and even if she had lost the £10, she wouldnt have bet any more. She had self control and was prepared to lose a tenner.
Roulette is great fun if you are in control. Part of the fun is thinking you have a good ststem.
As for the chinese surrounding you in the casino, piling £200 of random chips all over the place, they arnt enjoying roulette at all. They are out of control. No system can ever work for them because the "win means I'm a winner and my next bet will win" mantra is nonsense.
Hi Turnerfeck,
I agree. We should be WINNERS - not GAMBLERS!
A.
What a waste of forum space - "give it to me for free and i code it for you".
Well if i was a roulette system player i would send you all systems in the world to code for free.
So funny ...