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Roulette-focused => Main Roulette Board => Topic started by: intrinseco on Apr 16, 07:01 PM 2012

Title: Two Wheels Method
Post by: intrinseco on Apr 16, 07:01 PM 2012
Hi Guys, I'd like to share with you this new system I've been working in the last week,

My results
after 250 spins william hill:
+126
Highest point +176
Lowest point 145
BR: 200

after 370 spins Baden casino :
+166
Highest point +333
Lowest point ---
BR: 200


I ' d like to know what do u think about it

ps: attached doc file with system explained
Title: Re: Two Wheels Method
Post by: albertojonas on Apr 16, 07:19 PM 2012

Looks pretty interesting!

those were the only tests you made?


i would love to know how many placed bets you did.


Cheers
Title: Re: Two Wheels Method
Post by: Nickmsi on Apr 16, 08:01 PM 2012
We need some clarification of exactly how you select your bets to place.

Perhaps, you can give us a spin by spin demonstration so we can see what you are doing.

In your document you say the first number spun is 5 and you mark it and 21 (the number in pocket 5).

The next number spun is 17 and you mark it and 23 ( the number in pocket 17).

Then you say you got 10 and 18 to bet but you are not betting until you get 3 numbers on the wheel that interrupt 3 numbers in a row.

How did you arrive at 10 and 18 as your bet selection?

What do you mean by interrupt 3 numbers in a row?

Thanks for clarifying your system.   Nick
Title: Re: Two Wheels Method
Post by: vile on Apr 17, 03:59 AM 2012
Cause 10 is linked to 18,I suppose.
Title: Re: Two Wheels Method
Post by: peauke on Apr 17, 05:11 AM 2012
Hello,

I like the system, but have a question:

what if we got 2 blue arrows and the next spin one of the blue arrow numbers are spun. Do we still take the numbers or is this a repeater.

e.c.
number: 2 is spun so nr 2 and 15 (real wheel) are marked
next: 3 is spun so nr 3 and 19 are marked (real wheel), we have now 2 blue arrows on numbers 1-32-4 but we are missing 1 arrow to place the bet.
next: 32 is spun so on a blue arrow but haven't place a bet yet. What do we mark:
numbers: 1-32-0-4 or do we mark 0-4 and forget about 1-32

thanks for the nice system
Title: Re: Two Wheels Method
Post by: intrinseco on Apr 17, 06:38 AM 2012
to albertojonas: I'm attaching a rx file with one of my sessions,so you could see more information about the bets and stats

To Nickmsi: we i say 3 numbers in a row I mean 3 consecutive numbers on the wheel, so number 10 is in the middle of 23 and 5. And number 18 is linked to 10. so this is the way the numbers has to be selected

to vile: yes you are right, remember every number will give us 2 numbers, the wheel one and the pocket one, just number 0 and number 4 will give us 1 number because 0 is linked to pocket 0 and 4 is linked to pocket 4
Title: Re: Two Wheels Method
Post by: TwoCatSam on Apr 17, 09:41 AM 2012
I understand your methodology, but have you personally made any money from it?  What kind of hit rate do you encounter?

Sam

........and thanks!
Title: Re: Two Wheels Method
Post by: intrinseco on Apr 17, 02:56 PM 2012
Hi Sam, I haven't played it yet, I'm just testing it with real spins on rx. So for now no real bets no money...but I hope to get i son

Manuel
Title: Re: Two Wheels Method
Post by: Face on Apr 17, 03:53 PM 2012
Hi!
rx file? this rmd not dgt!
Title: Re: Two Wheels Method
Post by: albertojonas on Apr 17, 04:56 PM 2012
Quote from: intrinseco on Apr 17, 06:38 AM 2012
to albertojonas: I'm attaching a rx file with one of my sessions,so you could see more information about the bets and stats


I do not have the roulette program to open the file =(


if you could post the results... ::)
Title: Re: Two Wheels Method
Post by: VLS on Apr 17, 05:45 PM 2012
Be libre amigo, be free...

Proprietary formats must go!

Vic




[csv=,]
Spin,Number,Type,Bet Unit,Win,Loss,Net,Unit Bal.,Bet Layout
0,,,0,0,0,0,200,
1,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,200,
2,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,200,
3,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,200,
4,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,200,
5,19,Bet,5,0,-5,-5,195,"1 : 7,22,28,31,0"
6,13,Bet,9,0,-9,-9,186,"1 : 2,5,7,15,19,22,28,31,0"
7,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,186,
8,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,186,
9,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,186,
10,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,186,
11,35,Bet,7,0,-7,-7,179,"1 : 1,4,5,19,22,32,33"
12,11,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,167,"1 : 1,3,4,5,12,19,22,26,32,33,35,36"
13,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,167,
14,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,167,
15,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,167,
16,2,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,161,"1 : 1,15,20,23,24,30"
17,29,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,155,"1 : 1,15,20,23,24,30"
18,10,Bet,10,0,-10,-10,145,"1 : 1,7,15,20,22,23,24,28,30,31"
19,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,145,
20,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,145,
21,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,145,
22,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,145,
23,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,145,
24,35,Bet,8,36,-8,28,173,"1 : 11,14,16,21,26,31,34,35"
25,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,173,
26,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,173,
27,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,173,
28,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,173,
29,33,Bet,8,0,-8,-8,165,"1 : 6,10,11,13,22,27,28,36"
30,12,Bet,10,36,-10,26,191,"1 : 6,10,11,12,13,22,27,28,33,36"
31,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,191,
32,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,191,
33,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,191,
34,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,191,
35,22,Bet,10,36,-10,26,217,"1 : 10,15,18,20,22,24,26,30,31,33"
36,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,217,
37,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,217,
38,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,217,
39,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,217,
40,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,217,
41,34,Bet,8,0,-8,-8,209,"1 : 1,16,21,22,23,26,28,36"
42,31,Bet,10,0,-10,-10,199,"1 : 1,12,16,21,22,23,26,28,33,36"
43,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,199,
44,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,199,
45,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,199,
46,21,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,193,"1 : 2,6,9,20,24,34"
47,10,Bet,8,0,-8,-8,185,"1 : 2,6,9,20,22,24,33,34"
48,11,Bet,10,0,-10,-10,175,"1 : 2,6,9,17,20,22,23,24,33,34"
49,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,175,
50,6,No Bet,0,0,0,0,175,
51,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,175,
52,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,175,
53,34,Bet,7,36,-7,29,204,"1 : 7,12,25,26,33,34,36"
54,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,204,
55,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,204,
56,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,204,
57,6,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,198,"1 : 9,20,24,27,28,32"
58,8,Bet,10,36,-10,26,224,"1 : 5,8,9,17,20,21,24,27,28,32"
59,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,224,
60,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,224,
61,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,224,
62,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,224,
63,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,224,
64,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,224,
65,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,224,
66,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,224,
67,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,224,
68,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,224,
69,5,Bet,6,36,-6,30,254,"1 : 5,8,13,16,19,36"
70,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,254,
71,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,254,
72,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,254,
73,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,254,
74,30,Bet,9,0,-9,-9,245,"1 : 2,11,14,15,16,20,21,24,27"
75,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,245,
76,11,No Bet,0,0,0,0,245,
77,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,245,
78,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,245,
79,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,245,
80,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,245,
81,31,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,239,"1 : 2,6,9,15,30,34"
82,15,Bet,11,36,-11,25,264,"1 : 2,6,7,9,15,20,24,27,30,31,34"
83,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,264,
84,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,264,
85,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,264,
86,3,Bet,8,0,-8,-8,256,"1 : 9,12,20,24,26,27,33,36"
87,27,Bet,10,36,-10,26,282,"1 : 3,9,12,20,24,26,27,33,35,36"
88,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,282,
89,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,282,
90,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,282,
91,15,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,278,"1 : 5,19,20,24"
92,14,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,274,"1 : 5,19,20,24"
93,9,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,262,"1 : 1,5,8,13,16,19,20,23,24,26,31,36"
94,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,262,
95,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,262,
96,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,262,
97,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,262,
98,17,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,256,"1 : 2,5,15,21,26,36"
99,3,Bet,8,0,-8,-8,248,"1 : 2,5,15,17,21,23,26,36"
100,33,Bet,11,0,-11,-11,237,"1 : 2,3,5,15,17,19,21,23,26,35,36"
101,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,237,
102,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,237,
103,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,237,
104,27,Bet,5,36,-5,31,268,"1 : 8,11,17,23,27"
105,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,268,
106,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,268,
107,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,268,
108,29,Bet,5,0,-5,-5,263,"1 : 3,11,14,27,35"
109,14,Bet,9,36,-9,27,290,"1 : 3,7,11,14,22,27,28,31,35"
110,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,290,
111,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,290,
112,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,290,
113,3,Bet,8,0,-8,-8,282,"1 : 5,8,12,17,21,26,33,36"
114,12,Bet,13,36,-13,23,305,"1 : 1,3,4,5,8,12,17,21,26,32,33,35,36"
115,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,305,
116,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,305,
117,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,305,
118,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,305,
119,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,305,
120,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,305,
121,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,305,
122,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,305,
123,12,Bet,7,0,-7,-7,298,"1 : 6,9,10,11,26,27,31"
124,27,Bet,13,36,-13,23,321,"1 : 3,6,9,10,11,13,26,27,28,31,32,35,36"
125,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,321,
126,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,321,
127,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,321,
128,30,No Bet,0,0,0,0,321,
129,33,Bet,5,0,-5,-5,316,"1 : 1,4,15,30,32"
130,30,Bet,7,36,-7,29,345,"1 : 1,4,15,30,32,34,35"
131,26,No Bet,0,0,0,0,345,
132,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,345,
133,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,345,
134,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,345,
135,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,345,
136,9,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,339,"1 : 14,22,25,26,33,36"
137,5,Bet,7,0,-7,-7,332,"1 : 14,22,25,26,28,33,36"
138,8,Bet,13,0,-13,-13,319,"1 : 4,7,10,14,16,18,21,22,25,26,28,33,36"
139,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,319,
140,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,319,
141,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,319,
142,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,319,
143,31,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,313,"1 : 1,20,22,23,24,28"
144,27,Bet,12,36,-12,24,337,"1 : 1,9,12,20,22,23,24,27,28,29,30,33"
145,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,337,
146,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,337,
147,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,337,
148,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,337,
149,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,337,
150,16,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,331,"1 : 11,14,22,27,28,33"
151,14,Bet,14,36,-14,22,353,"1 : 1,10,11,14,15,18,20,22,23,24,27,28,30,33"
152,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,353,
153,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,353,
154,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,353,
155,27,Bet,5,0,-5,-5,348,"1 : 7,22,26,28,31"
156,9,Bet,8,36,-8,28,376,"1 : 7,9,11,22,26,27,28,31"
157,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,376,
158,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,376,
159,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,376,
160,22,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,370,"1 : 12,13,18,26,29,31"
161,7,Bet,9,0,-9,-9,361,"1 : 12,13,18,22,26,28,29,31,33"
162,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,361,
163,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,361,
164,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,361,
165,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,361,
166,2,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,355,"1 : 10,17,18,23,29,30"
167,25,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,349,"1 : 10,17,18,23,29,30"
168,19,Bet,13,0,-13,-13,336,"1 : 5,8,9,10,17,18,20,21,23,24,27,29,30"
169,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,336,
170,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,336,
171,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,336,
172,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,336,
173,6,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,330,"1 : 9,20,24,27,28,32"
174,27,Bet,11,36,-11,25,355,"1 : 5,8,9,11,17,20,21,24,27,28,32"
175,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,355,
176,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,355,
177,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,355,
178,22,No Bet,0,0,0,0,355,
179,36,Bet,5,0,-5,-5,350,"1 : 11,14,22,27,28"
180,28,Bet,7,36,-7,29,379,"1 : 11,13,14,22,27,28,36"
181,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,379,
182,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,379,
183,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,379,
184,23,Bet,8,0,-8,-8,371,"1 : 12,14,22,25,26,28,33,36"
185,18,Bet,8,0,-8,-8,363,"1 : 12,14,22,25,26,28,33,36"
186,34,Bet,14,0,-14,-14,349,"1 : 5,8,12,14,16,19,22,25,26,28,29,30,33,36"
187,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,349,
188,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,349,
189,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,349,
190,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,349,
191,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,349,
192,36,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,343,"1 : 7,12,28,31,32,33"
193,35,Bet,9,0,-9,-9,334,"1 : 7,11,12,14,27,28,31,32,33"
194,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,334,
195,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,334,
196,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,334,
197,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,334,
198,12,Bet,4,0,-4,-4,330,"1 : 11,14,25,27"
199,26,Bet,8,0,-8,-8,322,"1 : 11,12,13,14,25,27,28,32"
200,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,322,
201,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,322,
202,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,322,
203,29,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,316,"1 : 3,11,14,19,27,0"
204,0,Bet,10,36,-10,26,342,"1 : 3,7,11,14,19,22,27,28,31,0"
205,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,342,
206,8,No Bet,0,0,0,0,342,
207,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,342,
208,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,342,
209,29,No Bet,0,0,0,0,342,
210,21,Bet,7,0,-7,-7,335,"1 : 7,11,14,22,27,28,31"
211,13,Bet,7,0,-7,-7,328,"1 : 7,11,14,22,27,28,31"
212,32,Bet,10,0,-10,-10,318,"1 : 7,11,12,13,14,22,27,28,31,36"
213,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,318,
214,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,318,
215,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,318,
216,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,318,
217,4,Bet,8,0,-8,-8,310,"1 : 1,12,13,15,23,26,30,31"
218,20,Bet,12,0,-12,-12,298,"1 : 1,3,5,12,13,15,19,21,23,26,30,31"
219,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,298,
220,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,298,
221,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,298,
222,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,298,
223,23,Bet,6,36,-6,30,328,"1 : 1,5,16,19,21,23"
224,25,No Bet,0,0,0,0,328,
225,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,328,
226,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,328,
227,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,328,
228,34,Bet,6,0,-6,-6,322,"1 : 1,14,23,25,26,31"
229,11,Bet,10,0,-10,-10,312,"1 : 1,8,12,14,17,23,25,26,31,33"
230,14,No Bet,0,0,0,0,312,
231,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,312,
232,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,312,
233,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,312,
234,18,Bet,8,36,-8,28,340,"1 : 9,12,18,20,24,27,29,33"
235,31,No Bet,0,0,0,0,340,
236,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,340,
237,32,No Bet,0,0,0,0,340,
238,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,340,
239,20,Bet,7,0,-7,-7,333,"1 : 1,12,17,23,29,30,33"
240,29,Bet,10,36,-10,26,359,"1 : 1,12,14,17,22,23,25,29,30,33"
241,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,359,
242,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,359,
243,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,359,
244,27,Bet,7,0,-7,-7,352,"1 : 1,4,12,26,32,33,36"
245,8,Bet,7,0,-7,-7,345,"1 : 1,4,12,26,32,33,36"
246,16,Bet,11,0,-11,-11,334,"1 : 1,4,11,12,14,17,23,26,32,33,36"
247,4,Bet,11,36,-11,25,359,"1 : 1,4,11,12,14,17,23,26,32,33,36"
248,0,Bet,11,0,-11,-11,348,"1 : 1,4,11,12,14,17,23,26,32,33,36"
249,2,Bet,11,0,-11,-11,337,"1 : 1,4,11,12,14,17,23,26,32,33,36"
250,24,Bet,11,0,-11,-11,326,"1 : 1,4,11,12,14,17,23,26,32,33,36"
[/csv]
Title: Re: Two Wheels Method
Post by: intrinseco on Apr 18, 05:14 AM 2012
Many thanks VlS

:smile:
Title: Re: Two Wheels Method
Post by: albertojonas on Apr 18, 06:11 AM 2012
thank you for being free.
=)
Title: Re: Two Wheels Method
Post by: Sakura616 on Apr 18, 07:04 PM 2012
hi intrinseco,

your system sounds good. Than you for sharing it. I will study it and do testing.
Did you done more testing with new numbers?

Kindly regards
Sakura616
Title: Re: Two Wheels Method
Post by: intrinseco on Apr 19, 05:21 AM 2012
Yes, I've got 2 more sessions, the result are:
Berlin Casino, after 225 spins -53 units, the highest balance was +56

Berlin Casino , after 210 spins +84 units, the highest balance was +125

so far:
+166
+176
-53
+125
------
+464 in 1055 spins

to sakura: when doing your test you have to be very patient and play minimum 200 spins, it happen very often a bad starting where when can loose 70 units and after that in few spins everything change...so be patient and thank you for testing my method
Title: Re: Two Wheels Method
Post by: TwoCatSam on Apr 19, 10:42 AM 2012
intrinseco (link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?action=profile;u=3320)

Frankly, brother, I hope you make enough to bail yourself out!!  :'(


Tell me, is there any logic behind this idea?  Why the two wheels?  Did you invent this?


TwoCatSam
Title: Re: Two Wheels Method
Post by: Turner on Apr 19, 11:02 AM 2012
Instinsico, Even with the most stupid of systems (and Ive invented a few:-) I can always appreciate them if it is explained what the reason is behind the idea.

I cant see what the reason is to relate a number with its pocket location, then take that pocket location and use its location number to bet on a number in a different pocket. Dont get it. The wheel doesnt know its numbered up.

Title: Re: Two Wheels Method
Post by: intrinseco on Apr 19, 12:18 PM 2012
to turnerfeck and twocatsam

I just thought that if we always follow logical rules will be difficult to win, because most of them are based on math calcs. The main purpose of this system is to avoid 3 numbers consecutive in the wheel, so I'm doing a double selection, one logical in the real wheel, and one "not logical" with the pocket wheel, hoping one of them could win. That's all.
Title: Re: Two Wheels Method
Post by: 6th-sense on Apr 19, 02:46 PM 2012
Just as good as any system on here, i understand it completly have you thought about adding the neighbouring numbers to your bet selecton? I, m only asking becouse a lot of the time the ball lands in a horse chess move from the number spun.. Add neighbours to the selection and it makes it interesting like this pockets idea to further other projects