Something you should watch.
1ooo spins (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=LEdnkoann4A#ws)
The movie is of the BV robot playing 1000 spins. I used dollars and went up 729. There are always more winners than losers--over time--but this is with play money. When my deposit is made, I will try it with pennies, then two pennies on up to 5Euros.
These are very special numbers as they hit far more than they should. Play money!!!!!!!
Course it works at Dublin, too, but the zero hurts and you have to sit and punch "rebet" for hours.
More later............
Well the Chicken-heels at utube cut me off short.
Balls
Anyway it finished up 729u
Very interesting.
What kind of bet are you using? 8)
Thanks very much for showing this!
It looks like you are setting up a scientific experiment to test an RNG in play mode vs real mode. You're going to start the real mode with pennies and work your way up to see if the statistics in your control group hold up (by comparison) over increasing levels of real money. Your control group is something you feel wins pretty consistently and so, in theory, real money mode should also hold up...if the RNG is fair. This would be valuable information to know about the RNG in various casinos. Hopefully BetVoyager is fair. Here is a list of possibilities:
1. It's fair (same as demo mode) all the time.
2. It's fair up until a certain average bet size of X.
3. It's fair up until BR increases by X% over Y time.
4. It's fair until someone looks at a graph of your increasing account balance and figures you are too lucky.
5. It's fair until you bet any real money at all.
6. It's fair for X # of minutes play.
These could all vary from casino group to casino group (same owner).
So this test would need to be performed at each casino being considered.
Hopefully, when finding out that X casino is not fair, it doesn't threaten your BR before it's discovered.
Someone here, MartyMartz lost 1/3 his BR when a lot of money was on the line...and became suspicious or jaded of RNGs...and quit. That could be because of his system. Or it could be because of one of the factors listed above. Hard to say without a lot of scientific testing.
by the way, this would be a valid test even if your control group was new, like John Legend's Code 40. Even though it would be an ear of corn to measure a cucumber, so long as there was a big difference between the two the test could be valid. If one goes straight up and the other goes straight down over a goodly # of spins, that's definitely statistically significant.
I would argue that this is really the only way to find out if a wheel is fair. It does require, however, a winning system in the control group.
Once again, thanks for sharing.
Still
BV and Dublin are the only casinos I can get on and then for play money. That will soon change.
Dublin once had automatic betting, but too many found the key to the mint.
I'd almost bet BV is fair. John *no abusive name-calling please -mod* has already said I'm not smart enough to conduct the test, so I might was well forget Code 4.
People with empty sacks never want you looking in them!
Sam
This was an experiment.
The first time I ran the robot, I made 792 units. The next time, using the same numbers and the same 1,000 spins, I lost around a thousand. The third time was losing heavily so I just stopped it.
Point is......why would BV let me win once and then take it all back if it's play money??? Makes no sense. If their aim was to lure me in, then they would have had me win going away.
This, Dear John (*no abusive name-calling please -mod*), is how I know BV is fair.
And the numbers......pick any 24. You might be surprised how many times the above scenario plays out. It's the natural ebb and flow of random selection. And it will do the same thing at Dublin.
Still might play it for pennies. It nearly always seems to go up 100u at first. Maybe I should sneak in and slither out! LoL
Sam
NOW FOR THE TRUE TEST OF CODE 4 AT BV. LORD, I TRULY HOPE IT WORKS!!!
TO ME, the following video proves BV is fair. They beat hell out of me!!
link:://youtu.be/Pn11vFIuZkw (link:://youtu.be/Pn11vFIuZkw)
Quote from: Still on May 30, 07:39 PM 2012
Someone here, MartyMartz lost 1/3 his BR when a lot of money was on the line...and became suspicious or jaded of RNGs...and quit. That could be because of his system.
I just hope Samster has better luck than me... although I still was smart enough to walk away with a healthy profit.
I do know this after years of playing online roulette - Some RNG's are definately rigged, that's been proven a many a times. Yet I still believe some are legit. Why? Because it's still a money maker (for casinos). Just need to find them :)
And a personal note - I don't think RNG's are rigged to detect what system your playing and then make you lose, I think they just automatically make you lose at certain points to guarantee their profit.
MM
And a personal note - I don't think RNG's are rigged to detect what system your playing and then make you lose, I think they just automatically make you lose at certain points to guarantee their profit.
I've beaten that horse! People like to think the rng "sniffed out their system", when all it has to do is look at the board and place the puck where you're not. No sniffin'.....
This silly thing with the 24 numbers is starting to look good!
Maybe I'll look into it. It was just a silly example. Not meant to be anything.
Sam