Steve, since i see that you are an expert in beating roulette i wonder if u ever heard about beating automated roulette using nokia 1100 from bohum with faults ? I have not tried your RC but i think this metod with nokia is best because in every spin winning is 100% safe..
I guess you do not know anything about this that I wrote, although I argue that this is the best illegal way to defeat any automatic roulette, even better than your most expensive RC (I win in every spin) and I can prove it .. The only bad thing is that this method is illegal and u could easily end up in jail.
Quote from: speed on Jun 11, 09:12 AM 2012
I guess you do not know anything about this that I wrote, although I argue that this is the best illegal way to defeat any automatic roulette, even better than your most expensive RC (I win in every spin) and I can prove it .. The only bad thing is that this method is illegal and You could easily end up in jail.
How is that possible?
Just about any phone can be adapted to be suitable for a roulette computer, but some require help of technicians who work for the phone manufacturer, some models can just have a few mods to existing firmware, some need extra parts included in the phone. The model you specified is very old and would only permit very simplistic algorithms. It can be done, and my basic computer would run on it, but other models of my computer will not run on that phone.
As for legalities, in some states you can be jailed for it. In others, its just not illegal.
This is not an ordinary model of Nokia 1100, obviously you are not familiar with this model, it is a phone with a mistake made ​​in series, made in Germany in Bochum (Nokia Model 1100 Rh 15, Rh16, Rh 17,not rh 18 and the Serial number that does not begin with 35)
This phone is on the black market in Serbia costs 10 000 euros, and some offer more. They are used mostly for ATM, can intercept sms from banks to clients, etc.. Look this link
link:://:.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/163515/nokia_we_dont_know_why_criminals_want_our_old_phones.html (link:://:.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/163515/nokia_we_dont_know_why_criminals_want_our_old_phones.html)
But there is one less known way that can defeat automated roulette. The system wins in each spin because it is not important where the ball dropped, bet always be recorded as a win. For example, put bet on number 7 and the ball falls to 30 or another number it does not matter because software will register the that came number 7. What do you think about this, and is it fair to say that this is the best way to win in automatic roulette ? Sorry i cant explain here in detail how this nokia can be conected on softver. ;) And Steve do you believe in all this ?
That would be one hell of a security loophole for a casino. Anything is possible, but I seriously doubt it is realistic.
Cheat automated roulette in this way is not a big deal, i know some people who have succeeded an even easier way. It is the failure of those who are making sensors for detecting the winning number without protection, and those who did not put the burglar sensors in ​​automated roulette, i see that some newer models have a slightly better protection, but all this can easily get around.
I prefer to raid drug dealers homes, shoot them in the friggin head and steal their money.
Much easier to get away with.
what do you write as your occupation when asked?
Maybe for some, what I wrote sounds hard to believe but it was 100% posible. Of course this can not be easily done in a real casino where there is security and live cameras,as RC can't defeat every wheel, so this can not be applied everywhere. For those who do not have any devices like this particular Nokia 1100, they can win at auto roulette by putting a big bet, if win good, and if not use electroshock device and connect it on some metal part of roulette box (depend of model) and softver wil restart before sensors detect winning number (for u losing bet), and when is start again your lose bet will be on bankrol again. Detailed information with video evidence i can not give for free( for nothing) ;)
Quote from: speed on Jun 17, 08:11 PM 2012
Detailed information with video evidence i can not give for free( for nothing) ;)
Now there's a new way to make money that I've not seen on the forum before.
Quote from: Wally Gator on Jun 17, 10:05 PM 2012
Now there's a new way to make money that I've not seen on the forum before.
I know from where is speed coming from, so nothing strange for me.
Things on Balkan are quite different. It is very very hard for you people from west europe or civilised world to understand that.. Almost all casinos are runned by mafia in connection with country authorities...
When i say that 95% of wheels are magnetized in my country that makes everybody rolling eyes or rolling out of laugh..
But that is true, and some of us are having devices for discovering such magnets. Made only for that purpose. That way we know that.
Now i dont want another discussion how casinos dont need to cheat... 8)
They do when casino has to give good share to many people in chain.
Cheers
Drazen
Quote from: drazen_cro on Jun 18, 07:34 AM 2012
I know from where is speed coming from, so nothing strange for me.
Things on Balkan are quite different. It is very very hard for you people from west europe or civilised world to understand that.. Almost all casinos are runned by mafia in connection with country authorities...
When i say that 95% of wheels are magnetized in my country that makes everybody rolling eyes or rolling out of laugh..
But that is true, and some of us are having devices for discovering such magnets. Made only for that purpose. That way we know that.
Now i don't want another discussion how casinos don't need to cheat... 8)
They do when casino has to give good share to many people in chain.
Cheers
Drazen
I've never seen the magnets on the roulette but there is one fact- automatic roulette profit is about 10% and should be proportionate to the benefits of home 2.7%.
Quote from: speed on Jun 20, 08:31 AM 2012
I've never seen the magnets on the roulette but there is one fact- automatic roulette profit is about 10% and should be proportionate to the benefits of home 2.7%.
--There is iron in each ball on airball machines and each pocket is mgnetised.
That's why when the ball drops in the pocket stays still in the middle/even thought the bottom
is askew/without touching any side walls,and once the woice says the number hit,the balls go back
into the machine.It is run by HD and all numbers are predetermined.
Hm hard to believe, automated roulettes got where they are in most country must have a license to operate, there are much better ways of magnets if the owners wanted to cheat, (e.g. air deflating the bet numbers from pockets when is big bet in play), but the automatic roulette when it leaves the factory they not magnetized. If anyone thinks otherwise let him show proof and I believe him. :thumbsup:
Quote from: speed on Jun 20, 09:12 AM 2012
Hm hard to believe, automated roulettes got where they are in most country must have a license to operate, there are much better ways of magnets if the owners wanted to cheat, (e.g. air deflating the bet numbers from pockets when is big bet in play), but the automatic roulette when it leaves the factory they not magnetized. If anyone thinks otherwise let him show proof and I believe him. :thumbsup:
Speed,
I can't prove it but am talking from what I have heard from eletronic man that maintaining
machine once a month.Since am there every morning of each day of the month,having few
hours session.That particular morning was alone there and he come.The game stoped and he did his work while I was waiting drinking my coffe to restart playing.In the meanwhile had a talk to him.
Have seen him changing COMPACT DISC HD and from his conversation got this logic unswer.
The numbers are predetermineted,thats exactly how he told me,but not the way that would go against any number you topped.Thats why sometimes see the ball going,for instance in one/26/
number and finally after long dance on the surface drops in 19...which is fisically unatural.WHY???
Couse wheel is rotating CW while ball ACW.....so in that case it would be natural fis.that ball have
dropped in 29 instead of 19...hope you got what I mean.Think I could get Nokia you are talking about.Any suggestions.
I do not know the reason why the electrician of some companies say to gambler that the roulette cheating. (Probably would need to be fired)
I do not know much about the path of the ball, Steve is expert in this, but I know that in a large number of spins "anything" can happen with the ball, sometimes it does not fall into the pocket at all, but that does not mean that roulette cheats. As for Nokia, if you can get it send me a picture in a pm on the back side when you take out the battery if passed then we can talk about price program that u need. In program write the serial number on the roulette, then in the first stage nokia begins to intercept messages sent to the owner from roulette software, e.g. the deposit, withdrawals balance, average speed of the rotor and average speed exhaust ball in ms, hardware and sensor status and info etc.. Owner for each month or week sending text messages with codec to roulette changing these parameters and nokia intercept all of these messages and you with my program can sent command to roulette and software "thinks" it has received orders from the owner.. Then u go in casino, with sunglasses because of cameras and never look up, when u stay alone in room then u first u send code for block all massage from roulette to owner(because some software inform owner about all failure) then sent virus code for specific sensor for number detection and software detect all bet as a win, then You know what to do... :) (I recommend that not bet with a large sum to a single number because they will later look at the video from the camera up on whell and they will be 100 convinced that you're somehow cheating) And before payout when u finish the play u need to send code to software that all changes that u done back to normal, then payout.
I have all viruses and command codec for most roulette software, my detailed instructions and program for nokia. If anyone is interested to by all this first send me picture of back of phone in pm and if is right then send me massage from that phone. When i realize that you are serious (not work for FBI :D) we can talk about price. My first intention was not to sell this things here but if there is anyone is very interested I will help him. ;)
Maybe someone will be surprised that I wrote all this on this forum that all members can read,
I must advise all that i not recommend you to use this for illegal purposes.
You got me wrong....it doesn't cheat...it never goes against any number that have a heavy
bet on it.It is just predetermineted,regardless where you bet,the number programed will hit.
Will be looking these days for NOK.and let you know via PM
Quote from: Steve on Jun 17, 06:55 PM 2012
what do you write as your occupation when asked?
I'm a Fiscal Readjuster.
I just made that up ;D
Question is nothing but i know that the roulette is a very popular game mostly in casino field. Everyone can play this game easily with very educated, respected and good crowed. this is the best way for entertainment.