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Title: Wstreaker24
Post by: Kattila on Jun 22, 11:33 AM 2012
Hi this is another flat bet system i use , again inside bets ( my way),
this time 24 numbers. Go for W:.....streaks. Use your own MM on this ,
i mean can stop when you have reached your target or your stop lose.
All info/ examples in excel file(s).

Also can be played with Leveller progression:
1,2,4   stay on 4 until in plus , then reset to 1u, but still use
the Lw rules.


cheers
Title: Re: Wstreaker24
Post by: VLS on Jun 26, 04:11 PM 2012
Thanks for posting your flat bet dear Kattila.


Hopefully it catches interest / momentum  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Wstreaker24
Post by: VLS on Jun 26, 05:45 PM 2012
By the way, I like how the 6-number groups are evenly spread on the wheel, with 3-4 spaces in between.


The game does make some of those even formations take long (at times loooong) streaks.


Reminds me of the American wheel splits system!
Title: Re: Wstreaker24
Post by: Kattila on Jun 27, 05:51 AM 2012
Hi Vic,
thanks for your reply and yes this can give some looooong win streaks ,
of course other bet selections can do  but i prefer this one ( inside) , i don t say
this is better than others but works ok for me .

cheers
Title: Re: Wstreaker24
Post by: Kattila on Jun 27, 06:24 AM 2012
Here one session from yesterday ( airball  local ).
I usually play 6 or 9 inside numbers, this is in test/real play mode now.

cheers
Title: Re: Wstreaker24
Post by: biagle on Jun 27, 08:31 AM 2012
how you play 9 numbers? if each group has 24 of them:)
Title: Re: Wstreaker24
Post by: Kattila on Jun 27, 09:02 AM 2012
i was talking about another system.........what i usually play
Title: Re: Wstreaker24
Post by: biagle on Jun 27, 09:13 AM 2012
by this system if you playing lets say group C splits and 4 numbers you have to bet 14u, and win 18 (only+4) or 36.

Is your other system shared here?
Title: Re: Wstreaker24
Post by: soggett on Jun 27, 11:56 AM 2012
Kattila,

When You have the time can You go over this few spins and tell me if I was playing correctly?
Feel free to give hints  :)
Title: Re: Wstreaker24
Post by: Kattila on Jun 27, 01:23 PM 2012
Quote from: biagle on Jun 27, 09:13 AM 2012
by this system if you playing lets say group C splits and 4 numbers you have to bet 14u, and win 18 (only+4) or 36.

Is your other system shared here?

Hi Biagle , you already know the other one *inside 9* system.

Now about this system ( Wstreaker24) you have to bet 2 units
on the splits and 1 unit on the straight numbers, the return is
always  12 units if win, and lose 24 units.

cheers
Title: Re: Wstreaker24
Post by: Kattila on Jun 27, 02:21 PM 2012
Hi Sogget this is how i would play that numbers.


cheers
Title: Re: Wstreaker24
Post by: soggett on Jun 27, 04:26 PM 2012
Quote from: Kattila on Jun 27, 02:21 PM 2012
Hi Sogget this is how i would play that numbers.


cheers

Thank you very much Kattila
I think I got all of it now
May I ask just two more questions? (and then I'll be out of your hair ;D )
Ok, first is how many spins it takes you to decide when to first start betting?
In my example it took you 4 spins while in yours it took you 6,8 and 9 spins - how many is minimum that we wait? I know we look for losses but how many L qualify?

And second - how do you keep track of it all?
Do you have enough time to place the bets and record the spin and the w/l result of each group?
I tried it on excell and it takes me some time, gotta get used to it I guess?
But it is another thing in casino, like online where you have 25-30 seconds to act
I know you play online so thats why I ask

Thanks again
Title: Re: Wstreaker24
Post by: Kattila on Jun 28, 02:45 AM 2012
Yes  6 spins (or more) exception make when hit 4 or 5 consecutive Ls.
With some practice i supose you can track and place the bets in 45 seconds or 1 minute,
i do it but i play only airball (local city).

cheers
Title: Re: Wstreaker24
Post by: soggett on Jun 28, 03:01 AM 2012
Ok, thanks, I'll try some sessions and see how it goes
Some casinos offer you to save your bets so I'll try that maybe, one click and the bets are on the table
What BR do you suggest we have and what win goal is real to expect?
Drawndowns are rare with this since we stop at losses so i suppose The BR requirement is not that high (maybe I'm wrong?)

And here's something that I hope will make things easier for you.
I modified a spreadsheet I had that when you imput number it tells you the information like R/B, H/L, O/E, what dozen , column and street the number belogns to.
Now it shows you W/L according to groups.
So you just enter nuber and it does the rest.
You still have to color manually  ;)
Hope you like it
Title: Re: Wstreaker24
Post by: Kattila on Jun 28, 03:28 AM 2012
Bankroll  i sugest around 300 units(stop lose 150) if bet 2units on splits and 1 unit on numbers,
and if play with 0,20 and 0,10 then bankroll 30 units.
Thanks for that file.
Title: Re: Wstreaker24
Post by: soggett on Jun 28, 04:09 AM 2012
Quote from: Kattila on Jun 28, 03:28 AM 2012
Bankroll  i sugest around 300 units(stop-loss 150) if bet 2units on splits and 1 unit on numbers,
and if play with 0,20 and 0,10 then bankroll 30 units.
Thanks for that file.

No problem, thank you for the system  ;)
Title: Re: Wstreaker24
Post by: Kattila on Jun 28, 05:28 AM 2012
Hi, now if i have the tool I can test more versions.
This could be second version, but open to new tweaks.
Title: Re: Wstreaker24
Post by: soggett on Jun 28, 05:40 AM 2012
Kattila could you just go over this spins, I think I played them correctly dispite the negative balance at the end, thanks

Gonna go check your version 2
Title: Re: Wstreaker24
Post by: soggett on Jun 28, 07:06 AM 2012
About version two - how do we handle multiple triggers?
Title: Re: Wstreaker24
Post by: Kattila on Jun 28, 07:07 AM 2012
Quote from: soggett on Jun 28, 05:40 AM 2012
Kattila could you just go over this spins, I think I played them correctly dispite the negative balance at the end, thanks

Gonna go check your version 2


Yes Soggett i see all ok in your test, only not understand why is no bet from spin
17 to 28  but not really matter. Important is this ....from -156  up  to +60  .
Not easy to catch that :w streaks.

thanks
Title: Re: Wstreaker24
Post by: Kattila on Jun 28, 07:13 AM 2012
Quote from: soggett on Jun 28, 07:06 AM 2012
About version two - how do we handle multiple triggers?

You mean when have : on more than one group.
I think this way.... go from A to E ....ABCDEABCDEA....
and when find trigger bet.
For example we have finished to bet on group B , now we
are looking for : in group C , if no trigger there go to D ...so on..


cheers
Title: Re: Wstreaker24
Post by: soggett on Jun 28, 07:41 AM 2012
Quote from: Kattila on Jun 28, 07:07 AM 2012


Yes Soggett i see all ok in your test, only not understand why is no bet from spin
17 to 28  but not really matter. Important is this ....from -156  up  to +60  .
Not easy to catch that :w streaks.

thanks

I had no trigger - after the group C the group with the most L's was C again so I waited for a different group to show up. Since it was a tie I waited until one group had more L's than the other.
Is that correct? Or should I have betted on C again?

Did you see the 15 W in a row? wow :o :o
I'm getting better at this  :)
Thanks for checking


Quote from: Kattila on Jun 28, 07:13 AM 2012

You mean when have : on more than one group.
I think this way.... go from A to E ....ABCDEABCDEA....
and when find trigger bet.
For example we have finished to bet on group B , now we
are looking for : in group C , if no trigger there go to D ...so on..


cheers

Ok, got it ;)


Title: Re: Wstreaker24
Post by: Kattila on Jun 29, 11:59 AM 2012
Hi Soggett, i made more tests on both( and others) versions and
have mixed results, I think i too hard to catch the W streaks ...we never
know when they will occur.  Pitty because i have seen various W streaks
most have around 10 Ws and even 18 Ws.
I still will try different triggers and report if i find something stable.
What i noticed is when 2 or 3 groups works ok at the same time ,
the other groups works bad, then seems to change .......

cheers
Title: Re: Wstreaker24
Post by: soggett on Jun 29, 12:11 PM 2012
Yes, I noticed that too
Well we can't have a system where we bet only :: streaks now can we? :D
But I agree, the wining streaks are awesome if U hit one

note:
i tried when we have two or more triggers (version 2) to look at past results and see who had the closest L and then play that group:
like:
L  W  W  L  L
L  W  W  W W
W W  W  W  W  - two triggers
no I looked previous spins and see who has closest L - that way I tried to hit the group the maybe starts a :w streak.
It ended average so I guess no advantage to that