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System Description:link:://rouletteforum.cc/main-roulette-board/4/system9-my-personal-h-g/9704/ (link:://rouletteforum.cc/main-roulette-board/4/system9-my-personal-h-g/9704/)
Bot Download Link:link:://rouletteforum.cc/9722.0/a9449/S9.zip (link:://rouletteforum.cc/9722.0/a9449/S9.zip)
Supported Casino Platforms:- Bet Voyager No-Zero
- Bet Voyager European Roulette
- ...and tracker can be used manually on any other casino.
BOT system requirements:- Windows XP/Vista/7
- Adobe Flash Player for Internet Explorer (version 11.2.202.235+)
link:://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/ (link:://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/)
BOT Money Management features:Sessions Limits:Session can end on desired PROFIT and/or on desired TRAILING LOSS.
Reseting session will result in either RESETing bot or reseting+RELOGing entire casino table.
On each of session reset it is possible to auto-save list of numbers spun and charts of sessions.
You are able to see balance chart of current session on Chart Form.
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Global Limits:Global Limits/Balance is result of all played sessions from starting of the bot.
Global Limit can end on desired PROFIT and/or on desired TRAILING LOSS.
Reseting global will result in either STOPing bot or reseting+RELOGing entire casino table.
You are able to see global balance chart on Chart Form.
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DUMMY bet management (duMMer):DUMMY bet is bet which generates no profit nor loss (BV NZ) and it is used on BV to generate free spins.
On BV SZ in place of DUMMY is used simple flatbet system playing on EC that is in most cases ending up +/- 10 units in 250spins.
DUMMY mode is also used if you would like to gather spins from REAL money play without losing any real money (BV NZ) or risking very little (BV SZ).
Dummy Bet manager is dealing with
LW of a sessions. (session limits need to be turned on)
You can choose when you want to DUMMY to be turned ON and OFF.
You can choose multiple conditions on which ON/OFF will commence. (seperated by ",")
In short.This can be used if for example someone want to play after VIRTUAL (dummy) lose for X sessions.
(Dummy OFF after L # Dummy ON after LWWWW)- start playing after virtual lose for 4 sessions
or
(Dummy OFF after WW # Dummy ON after WLWL,LWLW,LLL)- start playing after double win stop playing after 3 losses or chops
If duMMer is activated it will turn ON dummy from start by default (u start playing Virtual).
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Sessions Progression: (SP)Sessions progression is progression dealing with
UNIT SIZES and its based on
Sessions LW. (session limits need to be turned on)
On given condition(s) it is adding multiplayed BASEUNITS value to the current 1UNIT value.
BASEUNIT is 1unit size at the start on 1st session (0.01 on pic).
examples:started with 0.01 (BASE UNIT):
(after L modify base units by x1 of base unit # after W modify base units by x-1 of base unit)-on session Lose 1unit size will grow to 0.02 (0.01+0.01) after 2Loses it will grow to 0.03
-on session Win 1unit size will be reduced from 0.03 down to 0.03+(0.01*-1)=0.02
started with 0.03 (BASE UNIT):
(after L modify base units by x1 of base unit # after W modify base units by x-1 of base unit)-on session Lose 1unit size will grow to 0.06 (0.03+0.03) after 2Loses it will grow to 0.09
-on session Win 1unit size will be reduced from 0.09 down to 0.09+(0.03*-1)=0.06
If you would like 1unit size to return to base amount after any Win then You can choose
(after W modify base units by x-999 of base unit)-on session Win 1unit size will be reduced from x.xx down to x.xx+(x.xx*-999)=BASEUNIT
All this can be used if You have situation like
Session WWWLWWWWWLWWWWW to recover fast after losing session.
Like in duMMer you can have multiple conditions separated by ","
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Implemented progressions:FLAT:Every spins you bet 1unit.
INSIDE spins progression:This is dynamic progression calculated every spin from current loss/streets to bet/minimum profit/max units.
This type of progression is adjusted every spin and can be reseted when new "game" starts (new set of 1-12 is generated)
OUTSIDE games progression:This progression is only adjusted when new "game" is starting (new set of 1-12 is generated).
You can put multiple conditions on which unit size will be modified by typed value.
examples:(after L modify base units by 1 # after W modify units by -1)-on game Lose units size will grow to from 1 to (1+1)=2 after 2Loses it will grow to 3
-on game Win units size will be reduced from 3 down to 3+(1*-1)=2
If you would like unit size to return to base amount after any Win then You can choose
(after W modify units by -999)-on session Win units size will be reduced to 1
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Thank you very much Ophis.
I am really looking forward to using it.
You are the wizard of Trackers/Bots.
regards
fl
goodi...ophis graph looks not bad..rng bv thanks ophis and fluke :thumbsup:
What settings did you use maestro?
Could I please sound a warning..................
No matter what you may think of Thomas Grant, he used a bot to take some serious money from Bet Voyager. Others did, too. We're talking several thousand each. BV quickly got a belly full of this and changed their program so the bot no longer worked.
They will do this again if a few people get greedy. If this bot works and makes money, make a little and be happy.
I would not be surprised if BV (and all casinos) have spies on this and all forums.
I suspect these bots bring more losers to their sites than winners. A few big winners could tip the scales and cost the casino money.
OK, let's get 'er done...
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jun 24, 05:13 PM 2012
Could I please sound a warning..................
No matter what you may think of Thomas Grant, he used a bot to take some serious money from Bet Voyager. Others did, too. We're talking several thousand each. BV quickly got a belly full of this and changed their program so the bot no longer worked.
They will do this again if a few people get greedy. If this bot works and makes money, make a little and be happy.
I would not be surprised if BV (and all casinos) have spies on this and all forums.
I suspect these bots bring more losers to their sites than winners. A few big winners could tip the scales and cost the casino money.
OK, let's get 'er done...
Sam
They are already safety features.
Like one of my other bots is getting disconnected each time it want to place more than 100 coins on a table :yawn:
@juiced i did not touch any settings straight out of the box just run few spins i had from previous sessions :thumbsup:
i imported 1000 numbers from random.org 0-36
here is results:
- after what imported 10k random numbers and got: min balance: -1665; max balance 0; balance -1576. Ophis tracker works fine with default settings?
1.0.2FIXED:
- Inside progression
- Sessions progression
Just ran it on BV.......
Never in my life seen anything like it.
Went up 65 units in fifteen minutes. Forgot to save graph.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jun 24, 06:08 PM 2012
Just ran it on BV.......
Never in my life seen anything like it.
Went up 65 units in fifteen minutes. Forgot to save graph.
Sam
u have option to auto save graph/numbers... :)
and excel export
How do I import numbers into this please someone?
Never used one of these before!
Thanks
just run BV bot 100 spins and balance was -100u.
buffalowizard im attaching for you print screen.
Quote from: buffalowizard on Jun 24, 06:35 PM 2012
How do I import numbers into this please someone?
Never used one of these before!
Thanks
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Many thanks Biagle
BW
Here's vittoriosa actuals from this site.
I know some don't like thousands of spins clumped together for these kind of tests but hey ho, here we go!
Quote from: biagle on Jun 24, 05:47 PM 2012
i imported 1000 numbers from random.org 0-36
here is results:
- after what imported 10k random numbers and got: min balance: -1665; max balance 0; balance -1576. Ophis tracker works fine with default settings?
now there is a question:
are you one of those guys who always test and never play?
or are you the one of the people that are currently winning +20 euros/hour?
because they are people who are already winning with it real money....
...with proper money management.
buffalowizard, i got same results with 1000, 10 000 numbers from random.org; two sesions on BV no zero with 100 spins.
Quote from: ophis on Jun 24, 06:57 PM 2012
now there is a question:
are you one of those guys who always test and never play?
or are you the one of the people that are currently winning +20 euros/hour?
because they are people who are already winning with it real money....
...with proper money management.
im one of those guys who lost too much, now i want to know where im going before doing any betting.
no, im wining nothing.
Quote from: biagle on Jun 24, 07:00 PM 2012
I'm one of those guys who lost too much, now i want to know where I'm going before doing any betting.
no, I'm wining nothing.
that's sad.
maybe instead of focusing on finding bet selection that wins 100% you will enjoy the one You have now (which is more than enough) and try to find the best MM to it possible?
try demo mode with some sort of sessions limits and session progression... u may be surprised what you will come up with.
answer for all those funky emails:no i didint find system that is beating million spins.
no i didint find system that is constantly winning.
yes You can win money in roulette.
yes i am getting constant profit out of roulette.
yes there are public systems on this forum that you can win with.
no i will not give you ready solution for you to become rich tomorrow.
everyone need to get there by himself.
Quote from: ophis on Jun 24, 07:03 PM 2012
that's sad.
maybe instead of focusing on finding bet selection that wins 100% you will enjoy the one You have now (which is more than enough) and try to find the best MM to it possible?
try demo mode with some sort of sessions limits and session progression... u may be surprised what you will come up with.
i'm trying. any tips?
Thank you for your hard work making this software.
biagle
ophis just quick question when i downloaded tracker and run it did ask me for an e mail or name why was that...thanks
Quote from: maestro on Jun 24, 07:06 PM 2012
ophis just quick question when i downloaded tracker and run it did ask me for an e mail or name why was that...thanks
what you type there is one of the things that is used to identify if you are allowed to use particular bot and since this is public bot and everybody is allowed... You can type there whatever u want.
Quote from: ophis on Jun 24, 07:03 PM 2012
that's sad.
maybe instead of focusing on finding bet selection that wins 100% you will enjoy the one You have now (which is more than enough) and try to find the best MM to it possible?
try demo mode with some sort of sessions limits and session progression... u may be surprised what you will come up with.
answer for all those funky emails:
no i didint find system that is beating million spins.
no i didint find system that is constantly winning.
yes You can win money in roulette.
yes i am getting constant profit out of roulette.
yes there are public systems on this forum that you can win with.
no i will not give you ready solution for you to become rich tomorrow.
everyone need to get there by himself.
Well said, ophis I'm in 100% agreement with what you said :thumbsup:
Nothing more needs to be said on the matter.
Thanks
malcop
@ophis ok thanks..just was curious :thumbsup: so this means that if i want to run tracker and i am not connected to web tracker will not run is that correct
Ophis is a distinguished programmer
Quote from: ophis on Jun 24, 06:57 PM 2012
now there is a question:
are you one of those guys who always test and never play?
or are you the one of the people that are currently winning +20 euros/hour?
because they are people who are already winning with it real money....
...with proper money management.
-------------------
Ophis, thx for making the tracker public.
Just to say that loaded questions very little contribute to fair and unbiased testing
Take care
vundarosa
ophis, please check this, results are different or FL made mistake.
link:://rouletteforum.cc/main-roulette-board/4/system9-my-personal-h-g/9704/75 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/main-roulette-board/4/system9-my-personal-h-g/9704/75) reply 77
Quote from: biagle on Jun 25, 01:18 AM 2012
ophis, please check this, results are different or FL made mistake.
link:://rouletteforum.cc/main-roulette-board/4/system9-my-personal-h-g/9704/75 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/main-roulette-board/4/system9-my-personal-h-g/9704/75) reply 77
Hello Biagle
He made mistake. Read reply 152 to my post in d original thread.
Regards
sorry, im rereading right now all theard
I analyzed using Ophis tracker 18 sessions each consisting of 80 spins from airball in german casino. Based on FL recommendation regarding win goal n stop loss 5 sessions reached at least 40u in profit n 4 others hit 30-40u range (max 96u). 70u in minus happened in 2 games (min -132u) In 16 sessions there was at some point positive balance. Half of sessions were at least over 30u in plus but 11 were down more than 40u. Played with win goal of 40u n stop loss of 70u 7 sessions would hit either and f stopped after 80 spins 11 other sessions would end in total of -159u. So overall result would be 5*40-2*70-159=-99u With win goal of 30u overall result would be -18u. Overall balance after all sessions played straight would be -241u. This is small sample but gives u some ideas.
regards
One more comment on my last post. This example of sessions shows u that chart showing how system works in large number of continuous spins is basically worthless unless it sinks like a russian submarine taking steady nosedive ;D U need 2 read it incorporating win goal n stop-loss n broken down in real individual sessions. Here played straight each session 4 80 spins u end up with -241u but with win goal n stop-loss in one case u r only down 18u. In around 1500 spins a difference of 200+ units. U don't need any more arguments about why testing 4 gazilions of spins is pointless. Its lazy n doubting guy excuse.
I have four problems to report:
1. The bot just plain stops! I got through a series of 100 spins one time, but after that it just randomly stops. After it places a bet, the cursor just stays on the "spin" box and nothing else happens.
2. I cannot for the life of me get a progression to work. No matter where I set the LLL and WWW, it always bets one unit.
3. I cannot manually save the graphs. The one time it went to 100 and restarted, it saved the graph. When it just shuts down, it doesn't.
4. How do you make it run to a certain profit/loss level and stop? The one time it went to 100, it automatically started over.
Sam
Anyone, please!
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jun 25, 10:37 AM 2012
1. The bot just plain stops! I got through a series of 100 spins one time, but after that it just randomly stops. After it places a bet, the cursor just stays on the "spin" box and nothing else happens.
Did you setup global limits by mistake?
What does status say when it stops? (yellow text in bottom left)
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jun 25, 10:37 AM 2012
2. I cannot for the life of me get a progression to work. No matter where I set the LLL and WWW, it always bets one unit.
which progression? please post screen shoot.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jun 25, 10:37 AM 2012
3. I cannot manually save the graphs. The one time it went to 100 and restarted, it saved the graph. When it just shuts down, it doesn't.
Right click on graph and press save.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jun 25, 10:37 AM 2012
4. How do you make it run to a certain profit/loss level and stop? The one time it went to 100, it automatically started over.
Session and or Global limits in Config Form.
Ophis, great bot! But it seems to me that you've used the wrong rule on when to stop betting. FL has clarified that we should not stop betting if you have 2 streets left even if you've made a loss. Most of the wins come in when there are 2 streets left. Please see his Reply #132. We should only stop betting and start new 1-12 line when we have only 1 street left which is the 12th street.
Quote from: seb coe on Jun 25, 10:57 AM 2012
Ophis, great bot! But it seems to me that you've used the wrong rule on when to stop betting. FL has clarified that we should not stop betting if you have 2 streets left even if you've made a loss. Most of the wins come in when there are 2 streets left. Please see his Reply #132. We should only stop betting and start new 1-12 line when we have only 1 street left which is the 12th street.
....
Quote from: flukey luke on Jun 24, 06:29 AM 2012
There is only one street left here (the 12 street) You would not play here.
...
You could have a situation where there are 4 streets left and then 3 of them get knocked out leaving the 12 by itself. You would not play in this situation. (4-3=1)
...
It could jump from 3 streets left to just the 12 street and bypass 2 streets left. You would not play in this situation.
It was really my mistake in saying waiting for 2 streets left and then playing to the very next loss because you might not get 2 streets left as explained above.
The good news is we are getting there. All the little niggles are getting ironed out.
Thanks.
the bot stopped at 240 spins, down about 40u. It always stops..........
No reason I can find for it to do this.
I need to make you a movie and show you what I'm doing.
Sam
this is what it looked like when it stopped
The settings I used
You can see yellow text saying "....spinning".
what happen is somehow it didint recognized that spinning had actually happened.
(did u cover casino window with smth?)
what to do to make it go further is:
make sure numbers spun in casino and in bot are the same.
if one number is missing in tracker then add it manually with keyboard.
then place required/any bets manually in casino and press spin by your self...
from this moment bot SHOULD take over.
if this will happened more often then make sure your flash for internet explorer is newest availible version and/or turn off hardware acceleration of flash
(righ click on casino table and find it in flash options)
SIDENOTE:
if u leave BANKROLL field empty it will apply all you got in casino.... this is only used if u got more money in casino and u want to limit your money at the table to lets day 25 euro or smth.
Hello Ophis. Thanks for your work 8)
I think tere is a bug in SESSION PROGRESSION.
For example, if I choose:
After L modify base units by x 1 of base unit
After WWW modify base units by x -1 of base unit
And i have: 4 example: WLLLWWW WWW WWW WWWW
In the tracker, if the base unit is 1, the progression is: 1,2,3,4,4,4,4, 3, 2, 1,1,1,1,1,1,1
But the correct one must be: 1,2,3,4,4,4,4, 3,3,3, 2,2,2, 1,1,1, 1
However, the error in the progression may be beneficial, so we beg to remain as an option.
Thanks
Regards
Quote from: jarabo002 on Jun 25, 03:55 PM 2012
Hello Ophis. Thanks for your work 8)
I think tere is a bug in SESSION PROGRESSION.
For example, if I choose:
After L modify base units by x 1 of base unit
After WWW modify base units by x -1 of base unit
And i have: 4 example: WLLLWWW WWW WWW WWWW
In the tracker, if the base unit is 1, the progression is: 1,2,3,4,4,4,4, 3, 2, 1,1,1,1,1,1,1
But the correct one must be: 1,2,3,4,4,4,4, 3,3,3, 2,2,2, 1,1,1, 1
However, the error in the progression may be beneficial, so we beg to remain as an option.
Thanks
Regards
to get what u want you would have to put:
LWWW,LWWWWWW,LWWWWWWWWW
because if You have
WWWW
WWWWW
WWWon each of those instances last 3 entries are WWW
same way if u want unit to rise only once after L (WLLLWWWW)
You can put "after WL make +1" instead of L
then it won't rise 3 times.
...i have noticed that typing such a long sequences can hang bot a bit for a while...
so maybe just type it somewhere else and copy/paste.
"(did u cover casino window with smth?)"
O
Nope, no smth! I will try all suggestions and report back.
Sam
Anybody else testing it?
I was reading in this forum about 2 weeks now and i found it was time register myself ;D
I'm testing the bot also and tested it few times yesterday in demo mode.
It runs fine in single zero mode and after 800 spins it gave me a profit of around 2000 units :thumbsup:
But in no zero wheel it has a bug.
When i want to use "session progression" (session limits activated) the system hangs directly after the first free spin.
It is because of the fact of the free spins the bot creates and these have no LW outcome.
And the bot needs L or W to know if it needs to do +1 or -1 unit.
Otherwise its a perfect bot in BV :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Ophis
I think those cures were what I needed.
Sam
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jun 25, 10:54 PM 2012
Anybody else testing it?
Hi Robeenhunt,
I beleive that the testing is on this thread:
link:://rouletteforum.cc/testing-zone/13/test-area-for-system9-robot/9725/msg83622;topicseen#msg83622 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/testing-zone/13/test-area-for-system9-robot/9725/msg83622;topicseen#msg83622)
Thanks
malcop
Yes I'm playing around withit.
Ophis
I spoke too soon.
I did download and install the latest flash player. I did untick the flash accelerator box.
I naturally wonder if BV is doing this.
This time it closed the BV window and cleared the graph.
Sam
hi ophis....just quick question...is it possible to implement in the tracker such as option:
bet after X amount of spins since last peak in bankroll no matter positive or negative that peak was as the tracking has to be always when bankroll goes down.. with both options after L +/-(x) and after W +/-(X)
in other words if our last peak in bankroll is 200 and after say 100 spins goes down to -20 then it shows bet and once we have the bet we will have option to choose after L what to do or after W what to do..thanks
or say we have bankroll -200 and goes in say 100 spins to -400 then there is bet..as our last peak in bankroll was -200
Ophis
By un-ticking the global and the progression settings, I was able to do a complete run
Now, the 100 Euro in fun money is never added to my fun account. Is this normal?
Sam
See post further down, Opis.
Maybe I am wrong again, but i think that outiside games progression do not work properly.
For example:
After W modify units by 1 unit, do not work, the bet is always 1. It do not increase after W.
Edit........
Problem may be me......
More later.
Sam
Quote from: jarabo002 on Jun 26, 01:28 PM 2012
Maybe I am wrong again, but i think that outiside games progression do not work properly.
For example:
After W modify units by 1 unit, do not work, the bet is always 1. It do not increase after W.
new "GAME" starts when we are generating new set of 1-12 streets. (after L when 2 streets left)
here is an example of outside progression:
Quote from: maestro on Jun 26, 11:24 AM 2012
hi ophis....just quick question...is it possible to implement in the tracker such as option:
bet after X amount of spins since last peak in bankroll no matter positive or negative that peak was as the tracking has to be always when bankroll goes down.. with both options after L +/-(x) and after W +/-(X)
in other words if our last peak in bankroll is 200 and after say 100 spins goes down to -20 then it shows bet and once we have the bet we will have option to choose after L what to do or after W what to do..thanks
or say we have bankroll -200 and goes in say 100 spins to -400 then there is bet..as our last peak in bankroll was -200
no sorry, this can't be done now....
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jun 26, 10:38 AM 2012
Ophis
I spoke too soon.
I did download and install the latest flash player. I did untick the flash accelerator box.
I naturally wonder if BV is doing this.
This time it closed the BV window and cleared the graph.
Sam
If previous session did not ended (some bets were left on table or table wasn't closed properly) then bot is starting this session (continue option in BV) and then closing it properly... and then starting again new session.
This may seem like bot have started and ten closed it strait away. in this case wait a bit and it should work. this is made in order to allow bankroll assignment for each session.
if u will have any more problems we can try solve them through TeamViewer.
@OPHIS no problems mate ..thanks for you effort
It seems (hak-kaf) I am working out the details of this bot by using it.
Never knew what "global" meant until today.
I'm playing for real money now. Pennies!!
Hey, I'm careful!
Sam
So, am I the only one running the bot on BV?
I made 108 pennies today.
I cannot figure out how to make the thing save the chart when it shuts off automatically.
I'm trying the global tick on the chart.
Sam
No Sam
I'm running the bot 2 in BV
Still in demo mode so far.
And until now it always gives me positive outcomes :thumbsup:
But i'm runnig it with the inside progression option, great tool ;D
Today i will try pennies 2 in real mode (also to be safe) :xd:
Lots of :thumbsup: for the brain behind this system and :thumbsup: for the bot-maker :D
Ophis, the more I know the tracker, the more I like it. Its a work of art.
I would like a new function: Global limits for Betvoyager but in Euros. I say:
Min profit: XXX â,¬
Max loss : XXX â,¬
from 1 euro. This makes the tracker perfect and more effective to win, in my opinion. :smile:
And another thing also, that there would be an option that the value of the unit is not maintained between sessions, ie if, for example, a session ends and plays with a final unit value â,¬ 0.30, the following will not start with this value, but with the initial, which can be for example â,¬ 0.10.
Regards
SPAIN WON!!!!
Quote from: jarabo002 on Jun 27, 05:23 PM 2012
Ophis, the more I know the tracker, the more I like it. Its a work of art.
I would like a new function: Global limits for Betvoyager but in Euros. I say:
Min profit: XXX â,¬
Max loss : XXX â,¬
from 1 euro. This makes the tracker perfect and more effective to win, in my opinion. :smile:
Regards
SPAIN WON!!!!
Hi jarabo002,
if you look next to Min profit:, Max profit: you will see a small "u" which stands for Units, Min/Max is based on the unit size you have selected for the bot, so if you have Max loss 1000, that is 10 euro. if you was using 0.01 base units.
Thanks
malcop
Quote from: malcop on Jun 27, 05:44 PM 2012
Hi jarabo002,
if you look next to Min profit:, Max profit: you will see a small "u" which stands for Units, Min/Max is based on the unit size you have selected for the bot, so if you have Max loss 1000, that is 10 euro. if you was using 0.01 base units.
Thanks
malcop
Hello.
I know it, but the unit value can change during the game due to the SP function.
I have been updated my previous post with another topic. ::)
Regards
Quote from: jarabo002 on Jun 27, 05:23 PM 2012
And another thing also, that there would be an option that the value of the unit is not maintained between sessions, ie if, for example, a session ends and plays with a final unit value â,¬ 0.30, the following will not start with this value, but with the initial, which can be for example â,¬ 0.10.
1unit value can't change inside a session. they are modified between the sessions.
Quote from: ophis on Jun 27, 06:23 PM 2012
1unit value can't change inside a session. they are modified between the sessions.
True, but I meant an option more between global sessions, between reset+relog in global limits.
<<X MAINTAIN UNIT VALUE>> into the global limits options.
Questions for someone---anyone....
What is a session? Is that where you play until you lose X or win X?
Or is a session where the four dummy bets are placed until they are placed again?
Yes, I've spent hours reading the instructions and trying different settings.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jun 27, 07:05 PM 2012
Questions for someone---anyone....
What is a session? Is that where you play until you lose X or win X?
Or is a session where the four dummy bets are placed until they are placed again?
Yes, I've spent hours reading the instructions and trying different settings.
Sam
I class a session from the time I sit down to play to the the time I leave the table, but you could have multiple mini games in the duration of your session.
that's how I view it others may differ.
Thanks
malcop
OK, I have learned a "session" is where you either hit your win goal or your loss limit.
This bot is drunk....
Sam
@ophis ...hi mate i would like to if possible to explain me a bit more outside game progressions...i am trying to set the tracker to modify by 1 unit after 9 loses and -2 units after W how can i set up this one i have been trying but no luck i think not enough brain...trnks
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jun 27, 07:05 PM 2012
Questions for someone---anyone....
What is a session? Is that where you play until you lose X or win X?
Or is a session where the four dummy bets are placed until they are placed again?
Yes, I've spent hours reading the instructions and trying different settings.
Sam
you need to think about them as a layers.
This system by itself is constructed by multiple mini games (1-12 sectors). Each mini game is starting when we are starting to use new chart of 1-12 streets.
Session is (but do not have to be if turned off) represented as Session Limits. If any of those limits are meet. Then the new session is started.
Global is representation of all sessions from starting of the bot and can be used as separate limits.
e.g.:
If you want every 100units to reset casino table (for some reason) then you are setting sessions limits... but if your daily winning target is 1000units then you can also setup global limits.
in that case after 10 sessions of 100units bot will stop.
if u do not feel that you need "in between sessions" and you just play continuously up to 1000 units then you can turn on only global session limits which in this case will represent only one big session.
*GLOBAL
**Session (sessions progression -based on 1unit value)
***minigames (outside progression -modified in between minigames)
****SYSTEM (inside progression -modified every spin)
Sessions in this particular system arent that important due to the nature of the system.
But if you would for example had system which is based on tracking sleepers etc. then reseting session will result in reseting tracking/triggers. This can be used to prevent some bad fluctuations.
Quote from: maestro on Jun 29, 06:01 PM 2012
@ophis ...hi mate i would like to if possible to explain me a bit more outside game progressions...i am trying to set the tracker to modify by 1 unit after 9 loses and -2 units after W how can i set up this one i have been trying but no luck i think not enough brain...trnks
sample of outside progression is here:
link:://rouletteforum.cc/roulette-software/74/release-flukey-luke-system-9-bottracker/9722/msg83737#msg83737 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/roulette-software/74/release-flukey-luke-system-9-bottracker/9722/msg83737#msg83737)
...but what you trying to achieve is not possible right now.
Oh I get it now the OUTSIDE game progression is for each system game, so for example if you have a losing game then your next game will have one unit added to it.
Game 1 base unit 1 = loss
Game 2 base unit 2 = win
Game 3 base unit 1 = loss
Game 4 base unit 2 = loss
Game 5 base unit 3 = win
Game 6 base unit 2 = win
Game 7 base unit 1 = win ....
The clue was outside "GAMES" progression!!!
Like outhers I was interpting that as outside bets progression.
Thanks
malcop
Quote from: malcop on Jun 29, 06:34 PM 2012
Oh I get it now the OUTSIDE game progression is for each system game, so for example if you have a losing game then your next game will have one unit added to it.
Game 1 base unit 1 = loss
Game 2 base unit 2 = win
Game 3 base unit 1 = loss
Game 4 base unit 2 = loss
Game 5 base unit 3 = win
Game 6 base unit 2 = win
Game 7 base unit 1 = win ....
The clue was outside "GAMES" progression!!!
Like outhers I was interpting that as outside bets progression.
Thanks
malcop
Yes you right.. I should called it GAMES progression... didint think much about this doing it fast.
1.0.4ADDED:
- Global Limits now can be based on REAL money.
Thanks :thumbsup:
Hi
Thanks for the new settings.
It seems that RESET+RELOG option do not work now in Global Limits and Session Limits.
It only happens to me? :question:
Regards
Quote from: jarabo002 on Jul 01, 03:51 PM 2012
Hi
Thanks for the new settings.
It seems that RESET+RELOG option do not work now in Global Limits and Session Limits.
It only happens to me? :question:
Regards
in 1.0.4?
oh damn i see You can't even change this. sec....
Yeah, in the last version.
ok done. update to 1.0.5.
Ok now its perfect, thanks!
EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS!!!
Hi Ophis,
A couple of things, since last update, if you select reset + login, the game comes up dose a few spins and then logs out again, and keeps doing that, I did notice that the mose seems to hover above the exit button. Also when software logs back in after a reset + login, the Globals + real money value have not been cleard to zeor.
Thanks
Malcop
Quote from: malcop on Jul 01, 07:07 PM 2012
Hi Ophis,
A couple of things, since last update, if you select reset + login, the game comes up dose a few spins and then logs out again, and keeps doing that, I did notice that the mose seems to hover above the exit button. Also when software logs back in after a reset + login, the Globals + real money value have not been cleard to zeor.
Thanks
Malcop
hmm ok thank for report... I will take care of it tomorrow.
I think its just relog on global limits. sessions should be fine.
pressing reset button after global limit was meet will solve this for now....
Hi Ophis,
Is it posible to put multiple statements:
On the SP Progression I would like to put WW, WLW which would mean if I have two wins, out of two or three sessions do X
If that could be done on all statements then progressions could be a lot more flexible.
Thanks
Malcop
Just whent to the start of the thread and looking at your DUMMY example, you used a commer so I guess you can.
Thanks
malcop
Hi Ophis,
Have you resolved the issue with Reset+Login yet?
Thanks
malcop
Quote from: malcop on Jul 02, 08:15 AM 2012
Hi Ophis,
Have you resolved the issue with Reset+Login yet?
Thanks
malcop
yes should be better now in 1.0.6
OK will test it and let you know.
Well in demo mode it doesnt work. It use to work. Now it loads but when i say open casino all coin values dissapear and just loads casino and then says loading casino before exiting and trying to reload it!
Quote from: Juiced91 on Jul 02, 05:26 PM 2012
Well in demo mode it doesn't work. It use to work. Now it loads but when i say open casino all coin values disappear and just loads casino and then says loading casino before exiting and trying to reload it!
so...
it loads casino then closing it again then load it again.. and so on...
OR
it loads casino and do nothing?
what does it say in status?
...opening casino.
...spinning.
...waiting for number?
or smth else.
you can try to delete setting for this bot:
WNDOWS button START->RUN->type "regedit"
find HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE->SOFTWARE->Ophis
and delete Ophis key... this will reset all settings to default.
Quote from: ophis on Jul 02, 08:25 PM 2012
so...
it loads casino then closing it again then load it again.. and so on...
OR
it loads casino and do nothing?
what does it say in status?
...opening casino.
...spinning.
...waiting for number?
or smth else.
you can try to delete setting for this bot:
WNDOWS button START->RUN->type "regedit"
find HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE->SOFTWARE->Ophis
and delete Ophis key... this will reset all settings to default.
As you can see it the casino is already open but it still says loading casino table. Never had this problem until update 1.0.6. Then after 120s it closes to try and redo it again. See pic
update flash.
try to turn on/off flash hardware acceleration.
check if it happen in real mode.
Quote from: ophis on Jul 03, 03:49 AM 2012
update flash.
try to turn on/off flash hardware acceleration.
check if it happen in real mode.
Simple fix updated the flash and works again.
Thanks a lot. :thumbsup:
Ophis,
What would the bot do if using a progression it exceeded the BV limit for streets. Would it shut down or just stay at the limit.
By the way I'm not intending to risk that happening.
Trebor
BV error will popup and bot will hang/stop.
There can be error handling implemented for that but i dont think its currently necessary.
Thanks, I imagined that would be the case.
Another question. You mentioned that the bot can be run while doing other things on the computer.
What would I need to do to make this possible.
Trebor
Quote from: trebor on Jul 04, 02:51 AM 2012
Thanks, I imagined that would be the case.
Another question. You mentioned that the bot can be run while doing other things on the computer.
What would I need to do to make this possible.
Trebor
run it inside Virtual Machine.
its like computer within computer.
hello. I'm having a issue where the bot is placing only two bets, and then just stalling? the bot was been working just fine for weeks!
the yellow text says its spinning
ive tried demo and real mode
ive updated adobe flash
and tried to turn off accelerator within the browser
any suggestions?
hi ohpis.
i think BV has put out an update that stops your bot from working? it will not work on my windows 7, so i setup a virtual machine, and installed windows xp, i get the same results with that, the bot registers the first bet, then it hangs after the second spin. if a fix is the case, i will pay you for an update
can you send me your information for how you accept donations?
thanks
Quote from: ophis on Jul 04, 07:03 AM 2012
run it inside Virtual Machine.
Hello dear friends,
I have opened a thread devoted to this:
link:://hobbycode.tk/knowledge-base/how-to-set-up-a-virtual-machine-with-windows-7/ (link:://hobbycode.tk/knowledge-base/how-to-set-up-a-virtual-machine-with-windows-7/)
Feel free to ask if you get stuck!
Cheers!
BC,
Now that you mention it, i tried the bot also to see if you're right
and yes it hangs after the first spin.
I used it also a week or maybe 2 ago and everything was still fine.
This system was a bust and the creator was banned from the forum. His claims of winning 9 out 10 times with it were ridiculous.
Quotecan you send me your information for how you accept donations?
Save your money, that method is a failure as was discussed, also the way those bots work is flawed, that was also pointed out during its build.
QuoteThis system was a bust and the creator was banned from the forum. His claims of winning 9 out 10 times with it were ridiculous.
Correct, move on people.
why were these type of bots flawed?
Quotewhy were these type of bots flawed?
My opinion only, they are made so they run the game within the bot, not just by using the browser, hence all the issues it had, also it has to make adjustments to your pc, it deleted members cache, web site login details and a few other changes, why?? it can all be avoided if the bot is standalone, it only needs to know 2 things, where the window is and the size of the window its working with, simple, so BV can change whatever they like and the bot should still be happy with it.
Quote from: Stepkevh on Oct 11, 01:01 AM 2012
BC,
Now that you mention it, i tried the bot also to see if you're right
and yes it hangs after the first spin.
I used it also a week or maybe 2 ago and everything was still fine.
yea , i seen that flukey luke was banned. and they say his system is garbage. but i made steady profit using this bot. mite have been getting lucky. but none the less my BR increased nicely!
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well at least now that i have a decent BR on BV. and the finally the exact rules of *five* are being sorted. i will apply my BV play to johnlegends method.
stepkevh do you plan on anymore work on a tracker for five now that the concrete rules are being hashed out?
I got a virus from that bot I nearly never got shut of. Then I tried it on a different computer with the same results. I would never run unless you use the virtual machine or whatever. Although, I had no ill effects from the virus. My bank account is still there.
I liked that guy luke and wanted to believe in him.
Oh, well.........
Sam
BC,
Yes i will work further on it...
I'm busy right now with learning how to automate excel sheets.
So that they act completely like a bot.
Then i finish the five tracker and for the people that have interest in it
i will make an automated sheet .
Stephan
Please show a picture with the best settings.
Stephan
With reference to your "9 last splits" (attached), could I ask a favor?
It does great always showing the 9 last, but when you want to bet the 9 oldest, you have to determine what splits do not appear in your tracker. If there was any way to make this show the oldest after the newest has lost and the newest after the oldest has lost, it would be a boon to mankind. Well, to me anyway! It would be "The TwoCat Redneck FLATman Tracker" on speed!
If you're too busy, I'll understand.
TwoCat
i try....and....
Face
Dear Brother, I can't wait to try it!!
Thanks in advance!
Sam
Just open the file. Loss -54! So careful with this program. :ooh:
Face
I just checked the program and it does not do what the rules specify. I'm not sure the original did either. If you care to work on this more, I'll explain.
Look at the screen shot. Everything is good until line 15. The 4 split has just hit and is now the newest of the new, so it would be on the right side of the spread. Where it is in the spread may not matter; I simply didn't go any further.
What is really wrong is line 16. Here we have a loss on the new. The numbers that appear are wrong. They are still the new splits when they should be the old: 1,3,5,10,12,14,15,17,18.
Here are the rules: When betting for new and new wins, take out the oldest number that is the same as the winning number and put the winning number as the newest of the new.
When betting for new and old wins, take out the oldest of the new numbers and add the number that just came. Then switch to old numbers.
When betting for old and old wins, take out the newest of the new numbers and add the number that just came.
When betting for old and new wins, simply remove the same number in the new. Then bet for new.
This is difficult beyond words to describe and learn. I wouldn't blame you for just chucking the thing.
Sam
Sam,
When i posted that tracker it was only to use on the last 9 splits, not the last and the oldest.
Thats because i didnt know how to make the tracker let us show alternating oldest and newest.
Meanwhile, while i was busy with my bot things and excel, somebody asked me to produce
an excel tracker for a Labouchere system.
Appearantly i havent seen an excel tracker for that so that was a challenge for me and guess
what... i succeeded :)
So the 9 splits tracker can be updated now to show the last and oldest 9 splits because it uses the
same formula principle as the labouchere system.
Just need to hang on a bit because i'm very very busy at the moment, getting a lot of requests the
latest time... dont have a problem with that because its good for my wallet :D
Stephan
Stepkevh
I am a patient man. All good things come to him who waits.
When you get time.......
Sam