Gents
I'm going to open this thread as I feel testing belongs under testing. I would encourage you to post your tests here. I would also encourage you to either use Dublin or Bet Voyager and add some reality to the tests. Or not......
Here's my first test:
Here's my first test with System9 on Dublinbet. It's a short session but I have to go to bed now. Next test from me will problably come tomorrow.
hi, can you guys tell your tracker progression settings?
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1 M spins test from Bayes. Flat bet.
55k betvoyager no zero spins
what i like it that the sharp drawdowns are not many and usually of about 200u. It seems to always recover....
looks good overal i would say.
vundarosa
Quote from: marivo on Jun 25, 02:00 AM 2012
1 M spins test from Bayes. Flat bet.
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would be nice to see with the suggested progression how it would go
vundarosa
Bet Voyager...........
Hi, can someone tell me how to download the latest version of the bot. I've got this prompt that says ""New version available. Would you like to download it?" But when I click ""Yes", the same prompt reappears and the whole thing repeats.
I have lost about four screen as I'm not doing something right. But here's a typical one. They all react 100E
This is one of many I've been able to save. I think I have the software set up right now.
TwoCat, are you playing with a flat bet option? :question:
Regards.
Today session on airball at SMLive Casino.
Quote from: jarabo002 on Jun 26, 01:23 PM 2012
TwoCat, are you playing with a flat bet option? :question:
Regards.
yes
Starting bank: 140U
Session 1: +45u
Session 2: +40u
session 3: +44u
Current bank: 270U
Hi All,
Thought some of you may be intresed in seeing this graph from one of my sessions today.
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Thanks
malcop
so maybe i will share what i have as well.
Here are stats of S9 bot played on BV.
Hash is representation of machine.
Cut Size/Cut Limit are not used to anything in this particular bot.
Results are in Euro... so it does not represent actual Units won.
Those are REAL money only sessions.
Preson who had won 40 euro could actually play with 1 euro as 1 unit...
but still it may be interesting to some of you.
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this is 5000 no zero spins downloaded from the forum...setting for remain streets is 8 on inside :thumbsup: ,good luck
Had a good day today. Went to dinner and movie and won well over 2E with the bot.
Sam
Thanks to thomas grants actuals:
All three end nicely in the plus...how are others testing going with this?
What settings are proving to be working best for you?
BW
And one more for luck! 4 out of 4 - although large drawdowns, always ends in plus plus plus
It's great to see people playing around with this and posting up some results. Thanks!!
There will be good days and bad days with system9. I am happy to say that I have had a lot more good days than bad ones. You still need to use what I call ''player intelligence''. This comes with knowing (understanding) the method you are playing like the back of your hand.
Experience has given me an intuitive feel on how to ride the streaks with this. I really do wish you guys all the best with it.
cheers
For those that enjoy larger spin samples - this is 18,000 odd numbers from Thomas Grants 50,000 spins in actuals section
Luke, it certainly seems impressive - hopefully this thread carries on getting regular updates.
Well done mate
BW
ophis, what is in updates?
today i had bad day, lost much:)
Quote from: biagle on Jul 02, 07:55 PM 2012
ophis, what is in updates?
today i had bad day, lost much:)
in 1.0.6 fixed reseting settings on global limits.... nothing what would involve functionality of a system.
and if You have lost a bit... stop playing... go for a drink... come back later on or next day.
i see you are doing quite nicely with it. dont try to bend luck too much... it can be cruel.
make your self realistic daily limits and you will be fine.
ok, good luck to all. Im going to holidays:)
3 sessions. 2 good ones n 1 bad one. I have some doubts about win goal setting of 40u and stop-loss of 70u as FL recommended. From graphs posted here it seems 2 recover nicely f u r patient enough but it may take large amount of spins n its not doable in real play conditions. We need 2 test it in real play conditions. I posted b4 results of 18 sessions of 80 spins n in 9 sessions 30+u target was reached n in 2 sessions it hit -70u mark. So it was good news but f we ended play after 80 spins 7 sessions that did not reach win goal or stop-loss would end in negative numbers. Overall u would end in -18u balance. Playing all sessions 4 80 spins straight would end in -241u.
So i guess logical solution would be 2 play until u hit win goal or stop-loss. But it can take a while. Things can change here in a hurry. You can drop down 50u. From my observation its very rare max continuous drop. Usually after 20u down You can expect at least one win n You can go up 50 units. In my example there was a continuous drop of 40u and recovery of 60u. Both happened very quickly but sometimes this thing just moves up n down without any trend.
Anybody else tested or played shorter sessions?
******its not doable in real play conditions.****
Rob
Why is it not? I ran nearly 2,500 spins a few nights ago.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 02, 10:17 PM 2012
******its not doable in real play conditions.****
Rob
Why is it not? I ran nearly 2,500 spins a few nights ago.
Sam
On RNG i assume.? i was thinking more like 300. Need 2 look at some data.
Rob
RNG? Yes. The bot only runs on Bet Voyager. Have I missed a step?
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 02, 10:51 PM 2012
Rob
RNG? Yes. The bot only runs on Bet Voyager. Have I missed a step?
Sam
Sam
No u have not. I just like 2 lose my money at slower pace so i play only air ball or live wheel. ;D
I dont mind playing longer sessions f they produce d same breakdown of W's n L's like examples i posted with win goal of 30 n stop-loss of 70. What do u think?
Regards
Rob
I have posted a question to luke as to the accuracy of the street selections. I never wanted a bot, per se, as they bother me terribly and I can't quit watching the darn thing. I would like to play it on Dublin if the selection process is accurate.
How the man came up with this idea I'll never know, but he strikes me as honest. The more voodoo a system has in it, the more I believe in it. That's why I can't get on board with these matrices---no voodoo!!
I wish the robot would run on Dublin. There would be a truthful test with no doubt as to whether or not one is being cheated. (My opinion!)
Frankly, I am pretty well sold on this idea of Vile's. I do not agree with the progression but with +1 on a loss and a -1 on a win, I seem to do very well. Very easy--so far--to get an equal number of Ls and ws and the progression creates a profit.
I will always belive--Ophis's chart notwithstanding--that casinos will take measures against bots. No one will ever convince me they can't tell a bot is working. Who sits for seven hours, places 2,500 bets and never makes a mistake?
Well, you asked.......
TwoCat
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 03, 12:08 AM 2012
I will always belive--Ophis's chart notwithstanding--that casinos will take measures against bots. No one will ever convince me they can't tell a bot is working. Who sits for seven hours, places 2,500 bets and never makes a mistake?
Well, you asked.......
TwoCat
Sam, how would they know if you had made a mistake?
And I don't know why any OC would be concerned if they knew you were running a bot, you just lose money faster, why would that upset them? ^-^
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 03, 12:08 AM 2012
Rob
I have posted a question to luke as to the accuracy of the street selections. I never wanted a bot, per se, as they bother me terribly and I can't quit watching the darn thing. I would like to play it on Dublin if the selection process is accurate.
How the man came up with this idea I'll never know, but he strikes me as honest. The more voodoo a system has in it, the more I believe in it. That's why I can't get on board with these matrices---no voodoo!!
I wish the robot would run on Dublin. There would be a truthful test with no doubt as to whether or not one is being cheated. (My opinion!)
Frankly, I am pretty well sold on this idea of Vile's. I do not agree with the progression but with +1 on a loss and a -1 on a win, I seem to do very well. Very easy--so far--to get an equal number of Ls and ws and the progression creates a profit.
I will always belive--Ophis's chart notwithstanding--that casinos will take measures against bots. No one will ever convince me they can't tell a bot is working. Who sits for seven hours, places 2,500 bets and never makes a mistake?
Well, you asked.......
TwoCat
Hola Sam
I like Vile system 2 but since u mentioned d fact that it seems 2 create equal number of wins n losses in long sessions that's usually good thing but a real dangerous thing is a long losing streak at higher base bets. U had a draw down once of more then 100u n 1u represents 1 bet on all 3 streets so playing 1euro as a base unit u would go down more than 300 euros. So big bankroll is a must. As 2 System 9 i tested it over 10000 spins sample taken from this forum. I broke it down into 50 sessions of 200 spins each. I used 30 n 70u as win goal n stop-loss values. And as b4 i got very mixed results. 24 sessions hit WG, 16 hit SL n 10 others ended at -330u at d end of sessions. Playing with stop-loss might help but some sessions recovered nicely from lower draw downs. Good news is that only 4 out of 50 session never went into positive territory at some time during sessions, few of them hit usually a small profit early n then went down. Logical conclusion would be then just play 4 any profit ;D Some people posted some very nice graphs showing overall climbing trend but its what i got. Before i tested 80 spin sessions on air ball. I looked also on my sessions at SMLive n its sort of mixed 2.
Regards
Yes, LLLLLLLLLLLLLL:: can create a big bet. I did not see that. More like four Ls and then some ws. I'll be cautious.
So you are using S9 as a tracker? Do you feel it works for you? Do you feel the tracker fairly represents what Luke said to do in his charts?
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 03, 07:27 AM 2012
Yes, LLLLLLLLLLLLLL:: can create a big bet. I did not see that. More like four Ls and then some ws. I'll be cautious.
So you are using S9 as a tracker? Do you feel it works for you? Do you feel the tracker fairly represents what Luke said to do in his charts?
Sam
I do not have a problem with a tracker. I don't use it as a bot so no complaints. Bet selection in my opinion represents what FL had in mind. I did some amount of testing n unfortunately this system is sort of hit n miss. I tried 2 test it with different stop-loss n win goal options. FL claims that it can recover 9 out of 10 times out of 70u deficit. Unfortunately rather d opposite is true f u look at results of my tests. It can produce some nice winning runs but losing streaks in excess of 30u r also quite common. D fact that there is no logical explanation why it should work does not really bother me like some people but numbers r just numbers n we r talking about more than 10k spins testing.
**********Bet selection in my opinion represents what FL had in mind.*********
That's what I wanted to hear. I feel Luke is being honest and I'll devote some time to the study.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 03, 10:05 AM 2012
**********Bet selection in my opinion represents what FL had in mind.*********
That's what I wanted to hear. I feel Luke is being honest and I'll devote some time to the study.
Sam
Hope that u will come up with different results than myself. ;D
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 03, 12:08 AM 2012
Rob
I have posted a question to luke as to the accuracy of the street selections. I never wanted a bot, per se, as they bother me terribly and I can't quit watching the darn thing. I would like to play it on Dublin if the selection process is accurate.
How the man came up with this idea I'll never know, but he strikes me as honest. The more voodoo a system has in it, the more I believe in it. That's why I can't get on board with these matrices---no voodoo!!
I wish the robot would run on Dublin. There would be a truthful test with no doubt as to whether or not one is being cheated. (My opinion!)
Frankly, I am pretty well sold on this idea of Vile's. I do not agree with the progression but with +1 on a loss and a -1 on a win, I seem to do very well. Very easy--so far--to get an equal number of Ls and ws and the progression creates a profit.
I will always belive--Ophis's chart notwithstanding--that casinos will take measures against bots. No one will ever convince me they can't tell a bot is working. Who sits for seven hours, places 2,500 bets and never makes a mistake?
Well, you asked.......
TwoCat
I agree with you 100%, I'm just intrested in using it as a tracker for live play, where I play I have less than 30 seconds to calculate and place my bets, so for me that is what a tracker is useful for.