A new day, a new system. This is my purple patch as we say. I may as well get them down while I'm inspired.
2 dozen bet
Wait for 2 distinct dozens : 12, 21, 23, 32, 31, 13
Ignore 11, 22, 33 when tracking
Bet twice on the two distinct dozens.
12 bet dozens 1 and 2 twice
32. Win on second bet. Retrack
11 no bet
23 bet dozens 2 and 3 twice
2. Win on first bet. Retrack
Progression 1,,3 on both dozens
Hope it's clear. Simple and fun. I think you'll find lots of winners
BW
A sample from previous actuals
23
3 W
12
32. L W
22
22
21
31. L W
21
1. W
11
11
12
1. W
23
3. W
12
32. L W
22
22
21
31. L W
21
1. W
23
2. W
31
3. W
21
1. W
11
12
1. W
21
2. W
11
12
2. W
32
12. L W
21
1. W
12
32. L W
+18
Further analysis is interesting. seems solid with only two losses in a row so far
32
12. LW
32
3. W
12
33. LL
21
2. W
33
22
22
13
3. W
21
1. W
22
23
3. W
11
11
23
2. W
21
33. LL
13
3. W
33
11
11
23
3. W
23
13. LW
31
1. W
23
11. LL
22
32
3. W
13
23. LW
31
3. W
11
23
3. W
23
3. W
22
31
1. W
Similar result for me too:
w
l w
w
w
w
w
l w
w
w
l l
w
w
w
l l
w
w
w
w
A.
Yes mate I'm looking for the run of 6 losses that always kill the 2 dozen bets. Leveller progression may be strong with this because of the amount of recovery wins
Appreciate the testing A
BW
22
31
22 LL
33
31
3. W
22
32
2. W
31
3. W
13
3. W
12
2. W
23
12. LW
22
31
3. W
12
31. LW
31
1. W
Another test:
l w
w
w
w
w
w
l w
l l
w
w
l w
l w
w
l l
l l
w
w
w
w
w
(One double loss occurred - but 13 first time wins)
A.
Hi A
By double loss you mean 4 losses in a row there? Do you know of a good progression to counter a run like that?
I've just found GLC's regression progression for double dozens and I think it would harmonise perfectly with this!
Courtesy of GLC
1) 3-3 If lose repeat (-6)
If win go to 2) (+3)
2) 1-1 If lose go to 1) (+1)
If win go to 3) (+4)
3) 1-1 If lose go to 1) (+2)
If win go to 4) (+5)
4) 2-2 If lose go to 1) (+1)
If win go to 5) (+7)
5) 3-3 If lose go to 1) (+1)
If win go to 6) (+10)
6) 4-4 If lose go to 1) (+2)
If win go to 1) (+14)
More tests to come
Quote from: buffalowizard on Jun 26, 06:30 AM 2012
A new day, a new system. This is my purple patch as we say. I may as well get them down while I'm inspired.
2 dozen bet
Wait for 2 distinct dozens : 12, 21, 23, 32, 31, 13
Ignore 11, 22, 33 when tracking
Bet twice on the two distinct dozens.
12 bet dozens 1 and 2 twice
32. Win on second bet. Retrack
11 no bet
23 bet dozens 2 and 3 twice
2. Win on first bet. Retrack
Progression 1,,3 on both dozens
Hope it's clear. Simple and fun. I think you'll find lots of winners
BW
Great work BW you have basically reversed a method called TWO OF A KIND. Authored by Scoobydoo. You can find it on this forum. And it appears to be working very well. I will give it a shot against Bayes RNG. along with my others. Get this on the main board BW. Its worthy well done.
***This is my purple patch as we say***
Really trying to learn something.......
Who are "we" and why do you say that?
In America, we "get in the weeds", but don't know about purple patches.
Sam
I've been playing with a friend to put on the last dozen and spent two months on this, no difference is still aligned.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jun 26, 06:04 PM 2012
***This is my purple patch as we say***
Really trying to learn something.......
Who are "we" and why do you say that?
In America, we "get in the weeds", but don't know about purple patches.
Sam
Hiya Sam
It's like a brief phase of clarity or inspiration. Don't know why I said 'we' because it probably doesn't go beyond my local rugby field but hey, now you know
What's in the weeds refer to?
Quote from: donik7777 on Jun 26, 06:10 PM 2012
I've been playing with a friend to put on the last dozen and spent two months on this, no difference is still aligned.
Hi donik I'm not 100% what you mean. Have you played this and it tanked? Or something similar?
Thanks
Yes, I lost a lot because if you play a flat rate - two if you do progression -8. And again to start the swing (or pendulum) is a plus side is toward the minus. In the bad days of the deviation will ruin your whole pot.
Quote from: donik7777 on Jun 26, 06:23 PM 2012
Yes, I lost a lot because if you play a flat rate - two if you do progression -8. And again to start the swing (or pendulum) is a plus side is toward the minus. In the bad days of the deviation will ruin your whole pot.
If you play this for short burst quit when you have a profit whether its 1 unit or whatever. You will win longterm. I garauntee you. I could make profit with the original reverse version of this 2 OF A KIND. I once considered reversing it as there are never too many complete opposite pairs. But BW needs to push this before it gets away. Like a lot of good methods on the forum that have a week or two of interest and then drop.
This needs to remain at the top until enough people get it. As a fast paced roulette killer this will be top of the pile. Now lets see how many people realize it and stay with it. If you do. The rewards are certain.
Quick test on SMLive air ball. Results: 36/6 Initially 21/6 n then 15 straight W's.
Another test: 20/1. If u add both sessions: 56/7... U break even. ;D It can produce long winning streaks but double L's as well.
Few more sessions: 14/0, 14/0, 18/5 (1 double L), 16/6 (2 double L's). Now u got into negative territory. So question 4 JL: How looking at these stats u can guarantee it 2 be a long term winner?
I guess only one game a day because from yr stats u hardly ever lose first game in yr sessions.
U might be into something here because in my testing i never lost first game as well. :D
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jun 26, 10:38 PM 2012
Quick test on SMLive air ball. Results: 36/6 Initially 21/6 n then 15 straight W's.
Another test: 20/1. If u add both sessions: 56/7... U break even. ;D It can produce long winning streaks but double L's as well.
Few more sessions: 14/0, 14/0, 18/5 (1 double L), 16/6 (2 double L's). Now u got into negative territory. So question 4 JL: How looking at these stats You can guarantee it 2 be a long term winner?
I guess only one game a day because from yr stats u hardly ever lose first game in yr sessions.
You might be into something here because in my testing i never lost first game as well. :D
Hi robeenhunt
Thanks for giving this a go. A bit confused by your results: when you say 21/6 do you mean 21 wins and 6 single losses? And 18/5 would be +8 using Marty? Same with 14/0 do you mean 14 wins and no losses?
Cheers
Two more tests
WWLWWWLLWWWWLWLLWWWWLWWWLLWLW
LWWWLWLWLWWWWWWWWWWLWLLWLLLWLWLWW
My question is, is this any better than other double dozen bets?
Johnlegend,
I'm glad you are enthusiastic about this. If you could do some tests that would be great
Quote from: buffalowizard on Jun 27, 04:27 AM 2012
Hi robeenhunt
Thanks for giving this a go. A bit confused by your results: when you say 21/6 do you mean 21 wins and 6 single losses? And 18/5 would be +8 using Marty? Same with 14/0 do you mean 14 wins and no losses?
Cheers
Hola BW
Yeah. 21/6 means 21W n 6L. 14/0 14W n 0L. And i indicated double loses in sessions. I meant back 2 back loses. 1L indicates 1,1,3,3 lost progression. So 18/5 session means 18 wins of 1 n 5 loses of 8 units so total loss of 22u.
Regards
Thanks for that rob
You say 56/7 is break even. Surely with wise MM this would mean a profit? Where you using 1,1 3,3 and then restarting that on a double loss?
If you look at my two tests a few posts above you will see that there are some double losses but with extended progression we'd have profit in both those samples
Quote from: buffalowizard on Jun 27, 04:49 AM 2012
Thanks for that rob
You say 56/7 is break even. Surely with wise MM this would mean a profit? Where you using 1,1 3,3 and then restarting that on a double loss?
If you look at my two tests a few posts above you will see that there are some double losses but with extended progression we'd have profit in both those samples
I just used 1,1,3,3 standard 2 step progression. And you might be right that with different MM and progression it might be a winner but 18/5 and 16/6 strike rate in 2 sessions gives u something 2 think about. Not sure if any progression could handle that. And d fact that there were 3 bk 2 bk loses.
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jun 27, 05:05 AM 2012
I just used 1,1,3,3 standard 2 step progression. And you might be right that with different MM and progression it might be a winner but 18/5 and 16/6 strike rate in 2 sessions gives u something 2 think about. Not sure if any progression could handle that. And d fact that there were 3 bk 2 bk loses.
Ah ok I understand now. I still would argue that 18/5 ratio is good for two dozens. As long as the five losses don't come in a row!
By 3 back to back losses do you mean for example WWLLLLLLWW? Or WLLWLLWLL?
Quote from: buffalowizard on Jun 27, 05:12 AM 2012
Ah ok I understand now. I still would argue that 18/5 ratio is good for two dozens. As long as the five losses don't come in a row!
By 3 back to back losses do you mean for example WWLLLLLLWW? Or WLLWLLWLL?
Back 2 back loss means LL. And by L i mean lost 2 step progression and W means won progression either in 1st or 2nd step. And i had 3 times LL which is back 2 back loss. Sorry 4 confusion.
BW I know this kind of method works because I played over 2000 games of its cousin TWO OF A KIND. Now that beast when it gets on a run you will wonder when its going to lose. Ive had several winning streaks of 30 plus. The thing to gauge here is MM do we really need to risk 8 units a game? I Think the trick is to work out the hit rate for the first step of a game?
Quote from: Johnlegend on Jun 29, 11:12 AM 2012
BW I know this kind of method works because I played over 2000 games of its cousin TWO OF A KIND. Now that beast when it gets on a run you will wonder when its going to lose. I've had several winning streaks of 30 plus. The thing to gauge here is MM do we really need to risk 8 units a game? I Think the trick is to work out the hit rate for the first step of a game?
So John what were yr stats? Winning streaks r irrelevant if in 22 games You have 6 loses. And 1,2,3,3 sequence seems i guess rare 2 u. ;D So u suggest 2 play it flat just 4 one spin? Half of my sessions lost big time using any progression. As we speak on SMLive casino airball on d board we have 17,36,1,9,8,14,30,36. Do You know what it means? B4 u endorse anything here do some testing first including yr own methods. And include also losing streaks when posting ;D
Show me a 2 dozen system that doesn't bow to expectation? You'll always get groups of losses. This system is fast paced so you will confront them quicker than say matrix bets but also pick up wins quicker. It is all relative. MM is key because of you expect that run of 4,5or even 6 losses then at least you can be prepared for that event.
Trust me I wish there was a system that guarantees a maximum amount of losses but I'm yet to see it
Quote from: buffalowizard on Jun 29, 02:25 PM 2012
Show me a 2 dozen system that doesn't bow to expectation? You'll always get groups of losses. This system is fast paced so you will confront them quicker than say matrix bets but also pick up wins quicker. It is all relative. MM is key because of you expect that run of 4,5or even 6 losses then at least you can be prepared for that event.
Trust me I wish there was a system that guarantees a maximum amount of losses but I'm yet to see it
Hola BW
All i know is that in my limited testing i had already 3 double losses and its very tough 2 recover from that betting on 2 dozens. Its a nature of 2/3 chances betting. It can be very streaky n u can run some wins n loses very quickly. And what kind of MM or progression do u have in mind?
Regards