this is the private message i got from flat:
Listen mate,
first i think that you are MOP,SECOND HAVE CLOSELY FOOLOWED YOUR 12 POSTS,ALL IN MY THREADS,THIRDLY YOU HAVE COME WITH THIS;
SADLY IT LOSES MANY TIMES AT AIRBALL ROULETTE,THEN YOU STARTED POSTING LOSING SESSIONS OF 185 SPINS/EVEN THOUGHT I SAID THAT I ACCEPT ONLY 300 AND MORE SPINS PERMANENZES WHICH I CAN CHECK UP.WHAT YOU DID WRONGLY AND MADED ME SUSPICIOUS IS THAT EACH OF YOUR ALLEGEDLY SESSIONS RARELY HAD ANY TRENDS,ALL CHOPS AFTER CHOP,AND IT IS IMPOSSIBLE THAT HAPPENING.ME AND COUPLE OTHER GUYS ARE TESTING THIS WITH WIESBADEN SESSIONS EACH OVER 300 SPINS AND MORE THEN 30 SESSIONS ALL WON....AND NOW YOU COME ALONG WITH YOUR SESSIONS,ALL
LOSING....ISN'T THAT QUEER.WOULD YOU BE SO KIND AND SHOW ME ORIGINALS WHERE I CAN SEE THESE SESSIONS AS I SIMPLY DON'T BELIEVE YOU,NOR MATES THAT ARE TESTING THIS WITH ME.IF YOU DO SO WE SHALL APPOLOGISE TO YOU AND IF YOU WISH TO TEST THIS DO IT WITH SESSIONS OVER 300 SPINS.IN THE MEANTIME WILL DELETE ALL YOUR POSTS AS WE THINK YOU ARE MOP WHO IS DOING THIS FOR YEARS NOW .
this is stupid and childish.
moderators can clear that up, that i am not mop.
obviously flat is afraid of mop blaming his systems. but if i want to blame flat, would i post that it won big time? i even offer ophis money for the bot.
i was just posting screenshots of smartlive autoroulette. why the f would i fake this?
so...in this thread i am posting my results. i thought flat is a nice guy but he obviously gets upset if you say his systems bust your br from time to time.
for me, exchange results between each other can help to make every system better.
so in this case my advice is: do not play at smartlive autoroulette with this.
maybe it is only playable in real casino. i will do more testing and posting my results here.
won FLAT and with PROG big time.
lost flatbet and busted br of 1000 using progression
Don't worry RFMAXX, some get a little too close to their designs and cannot accept it loses sometimes. I'd rather know when and by how much, rather than withholding the truth
Personally I enjoy people testing my methods until the weaknesses are laid bare.
Quick session Real Table Duisburg...
Reached Goal of +100 in about 38 spins...
keep it going RFMAXX. yes like all systems it loses. how often is what's worth to find out. :thumbsup:
vundarosa
Quote from: buffalowizard on Jul 11, 05:56 PM 2012
Don't worry RFMAXX, some get a little too close to their designs and cannot accept it loses sometimes. I'd rather know when and by how much, rather than withholding the truth
Personally I enjoy people testing my methods until the weaknesses are laid bare.
--I do also very much appreciate ppl.testing honestly,but you are not aware what's happening here.Firstly I have clearly stated that don't accept any RNG numbers and not under 300 spins per
session,didn't I ????Secondly do you know who this guy is....have a look his history...joined 30 of
june...12 posts,all in my thread,first post;Sadly it loses many times at airball roulette......and after PM
him why he doesn't send me a link where I can check those numbers he ignored me.Am still here
doing it now openly......as me and couple other guys from this forum have tested this method with
Wiesbaden numbers over 30 sessions over 300 spins and they all won.After all you can all do the
same and prove me wrong but you too lazy and wait for these thread busters to tell you if
something works or not.Open your eyes.
Quote from: RFMAXX on Jul 11, 05:48 PM 2012
this is the private message i got from flat:
Listen mate,
first i think that you are MOP,SECOND HAVE CLOSELY FOOLOWED YOUR 12 POSTS,ALL IN MY THREADS,THIRDLY YOU HAVE COME WITH THIS;
SADLY IT LOSES MANY TIMES AT AIRBALL ROULETTE,THEN YOU STARTED POSTING LOSING SESSIONS OF 185 SPINS/EVEN THOUGHT I SAID THAT I ACCEPT ONLY 300 AND MORE SPINS PERMANENZES WHICH I CAN CHECK UP.WHAT YOU DID WRONGLY AND MADED ME SUSPICIOUS IS THAT EACH OF YOUR ALLEGEDLY SESSIONS RARELY HAD ANY TRENDS,ALL CHOPS AFTER CHOP,AND IT IS IMPOSSIBLE THAT HAPPENING.ME AND COUPLE OTHER GUYS ARE TESTING THIS WITH WIESBADEN SESSIONS EACH OVER 300 SPINS AND MORE THEN 30 SESSIONS ALL WON....AND NOW YOU COME ALONG WITH YOUR SESSIONS,ALL
LOSING....ISN'T THAT QUEER.WOULD YOU BE SO KIND AND SHOW ME ORIGINALS WHERE I CAN SEE THESE SESSIONS AS I SIMPLY DON'T BELIEVE YOU,NOR MATES THAT ARE TESTING THIS WITH ME.IF YOU DO SO WE SHALL APPOLOGISE TO YOU AND IF YOU WISH TO TEST THIS DO IT WITH SESSIONS OVER 300 SPINS.IN THE MEANTIME WILL DELETE ALL YOUR POSTS AS WE THINK YOU ARE MOP WHO IS DOING THIS FOR YEARS NOW .
this is silly and childish.
moderators can clear that up, that i am not mop.
obviously flat is afraid of mop blaming his systems. but if i want to blame flat, would i post that it won big time? i even offer ophis money for the bot.
i was just posting screenshots of smartlive autoroulette. why the f would i fake this?
so...in this thread i am posting my results. i thought flat is a nice guy but he obviously gets upset if you say his systems bust your br from time to time.
for me, exchange results between each other can help to make every system better.
so in this case my advice is: do not play at smartlive autoroulette with this.
maybe it is only playable in real casino. i will do more testing and posting my results here.
And that's exactly what I did tell everybody don't test nor play any RNG numbers,didn't I.
Do test it with any live permanenzes and come back.I keep my word and appologise if am wrong
and you are not MOP.
Quote from: RFMAXX on Jul 11, 07:40 PM 2012
Quick session Real Table Duisburg...
Reached Goal of +100 in about 38 spins...
You continue with these live spins and you shall find out truth.
And here 3 sessions over 300 spins last 3 days Wiesbaden attached
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Jul 12, 05:36 AM 2012
And here 3 sessions over 300 spins last 3 days Wiesbaden attached
Missing 3th session
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Jul 12, 02:33 AM 2012
And that's exactly what I did tell everybody don't test nor play any RNG numbers,didn't I.
Do test it with any live permanenzes and come back.I keep my word and appologise if am wrong
and you are not MOP.
maybe that was my fault. is airball = rng?
they all are,airball machines with predeterm.numbers.
When you test do it live dealers over 300 spins sessions.
Compact disc inside generates numbers via computer and
the ball inside have iron shroud so it can't miss predeter.
number which is magnetised each spin....so you will see
all queer drops in the pokets,and the ball once it drop in
the pocket stands firm in the middle without touching any
side walls.
Air ball machine is equal to real dealer roulette
the only exception is if the airball is fake-scam(magnets on pockets) . But if this is true , then the real roulettes can also be fixed.
Quote from: Master_of_pockets on Jul 12, 08:39 AM 2012
Air ball machine is equal to real dealer roulette
the only exception is if the airball is fake-scam(magnets on pockets) . But if this is true , then the real roulettes can also be fixed.
I bet they are few people that make money on air balls. Flat have you ever played on air balls? I understand that you have some knowledge of how they behave and you question results that come from not live wheels or B&M casinos. But claims that something only works only on live wheels as opposed to air balls i find as an easy cop out if the system fails. :D
Here 2 more sessions from yesterday over 300 spins attached
Yes i play airball in winter time/summer B&M/and see ppl.losing lot of money couse 95%
of them are pressing those 3 buttons....tiers,orf.small serial,nobody that I have spot
playing anything else.I constantly play there pcwb last 4 versus furthest 5...win just
for my daily expenses and go.Most airball have play repeat sectors,not most but all.
This Smartlive airball.....how do you know it is airball?????bet it is not.
They can call there anything as they wish an you aren't even aware of what you play.
Ofcourse live casino can be magnetised,found many around EU
"""But claims that something only works only on live wheels as opposed to air balls i find as an easy cop out if the system fails."""
This is exactly what my above post means.
Real roulette and air ball have the same behaviour .... Random
I'm talking from every day experience playing both on daily basis,while you
talking artificially from books and what you heard on those forums.Go and
play every day/instead of sleeping on those forums/and find the truth.
What else can I say.
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Jul 12, 10:08 AM 2012
I'm talking from every day experience playing both on daily basis,while you
talking artificially from books and what you heard on those forums.Go and
play every day/instead of sleeping on those forums/and find the truth.
What else can I say.
just seen uncle 4 and 5 wouldn't open so here it is again for these interested.
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Jul 12, 10:08 AM 2012
I'm talking from every day experience playing both on daily basis,while you
talking artificially from books and what you heard on those forums.Go and
play every day/instead of sleeping on those forums/and find the truth.
What else can I say.
OMG !
So u have also found a different behaviour in 2 machines that both are making random outcomes!
Now what can I say?
You have found 3-4 winning methods
You have found 1 winning progression
And now this!
Just noticed in your profile;Never argue with silly people--and couse I wouldn't
wish to hit your level......am giving up....AMEN
yes but u didn t get the message.
arguing with u means that i don t consider u stupid.
so u fall in a trap :)
anyway continue playng ur system for real and after some days u will invent a new one cause the last one tanked like aLL ur privius.
i leave ur thread alone
Hi Flat,
just wanted to say thank you for this system :thumbsup:
I have only played 3 sessions of the 5 and 5 version. I like it a lot and reach my 100 units target very easily. I have not posted my results because i am playing RNG :embarrassed:
Cheers.
yesterdays perm from berlin...
won 100 chips fast on normal or agressive play...
yesterdays perm from casino bremen...WON
lot of chops in the beginning...but look at the streak at the end...
THAT IS WHAT INEVITABLY HAPPENS IN THIS BET,IF NOT AT THE START IT WILL HAPPEN LATE,
THATS WHY I DON'T BOTHER ABOUT BR HERE.
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Jul 12, 01:37 PM 2012
THAT IS WHAT INEVITABLY HAPPENS IN THIS BET,IF NOT AT THE START IT WILL HAPPEN LATE,
that's WHY I DON'T BOTHER ABOUT BR HERE.
i guess it comes in waves...chops n streaks...next perm i will play all 300 spins to see how it behave...
thanks again for that - so far - more winning than losing system. :thumbsup:
DON'T COUNT RNG TEST
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Jul 12, 01:44 PM 2012
DON'T COUNT RNG TEST
no. i have learned my lesson.
I have to agree here with F_LAT on the airball machines. I've played them extensively over the years and while those in reputable casinos may act the same as a live dealer, the payout system is still flawed. They are still electronic. On more than one occasion I have won a substantial bet only to have it not paid out. Even after bringing this to the attention of management and the gaming commission, they refused to examine video footage. They would only review the software application of the airball machine, which, of course, didn't show that spin. Additionally, there were 3 witnesses who were not playing who came forward, yet no action was taken. So, my personal experiences are to stay clear of airball machines. No matter how you shake it, they are still machines and can be manipulated.
As for this method ... very exciting ... still testing. Thank you, F_LAT.
Duisburg has the waves...WON 392 Ch