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Title: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: TwoCatSam on Aug 03, 06:40 PM 2012
Hello

I stated in a post that I make something like 20-40 units per day playing roulette.  A guy pm-ed me and asked me how I did it.  Since it is not my system, I will not reveal it.  However, I told him I would disclose some of mine that work just as well.

Be warned:  If you don't have the patience of a saint, don't even read this post.

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1.  "Green  on the Screen"  This is a form of "Voodoo Roulette" as there is no logical reason for it to work.  When you see green, bet green for ten spins.  That's all!  Use a progression.  When green hits, and then hits again, keep betting until you have ten spins with no green.  You may get four in ten.  I have.  It even works at Riverwind with 0 00!  I have often been asked if it would work with any other number or just green.  I don't know; never tried.  Use one-number progression

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2.  Double hits.  When a number hits back-to-back (5 5) bet it for ten spins.  Stop on a hit; do not continue although sometimes you'll see another hit.  Use the same one-number progression.

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3.  "The Waker System" as VLS named it.  When a number has slept 72 or more spins on the 0 wheel, begin watching it.  When it hits, bet it for ten spins.  That's all.  If it hits, do not keep betting it.  Use same progression.

When I was playing the above, I kept progressions open from day to day in my notebook.  If I had an open progression with "Green on the Screen", but had no current bet going I would use that progression for either of the others that became bet-able. 

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4.  "Numbers are Repeating".  When a numbers repeats in 5 spins or less, numbers are starting to repeat.  I then bet the repeater and the next nine to come.  Bet until the oldest number leaves the screen (I'm speaking of a ten-spin marquee), then pause and wait for another.  Five spins will be the maximum.  Yes, you use a progression and it can get hairy.  Have faith.

Example:

5        5      5     5
x        x      x      5
x        x      5
x        5
5

No more than three numbers between your doubling number. 

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That's it.  Now, as to the system I posted named "Penny Lane's System".  I have not made actual money, but I have tested it a lot just by looking at lines that repeat back-to-back.  It "seems" to work.

All of these are slow as cold molasses, but they are all "pause-able" so when you get tired, just close your notebook and take a snooze.  It's all exactly the same when you get back.  Just like a new shoe in Blackjack.

EDIT:  I played all four of these at once.  Sure enough, they'll all happen at once!  Or so it seems!  Be prepared mentally and with enough bankroll.

Sam
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: VLS on Aug 03, 07:42 PM 2012
Thanks for the methods Sam,


I'm eager to code them. Would be interesting to see a tracker for all of them at once.


As soon as the one-off software shop is set, I know these will "pop"  :thumbsup:


Fine work compiling them here. Very appreciated.
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: TwoCatSam on Aug 03, 08:15 PM 2012
Victor,

Yes, it would!!

I look forward t that.

TwoCat

An aside:  Folks, these are not systems I've tested over a rouzillion spins.  They are systems I used to get casinos to mail me checks.  Back in the good ol' days........
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: Stepkevh on Aug 03, 11:50 PM 2012
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: Stepkevh on Aug 05, 02:07 AM 2012
i think i dont understand your 4th system very well

i get the part when to bet but what about betting the next nine .
Do you mean that you include them in your bet with your double number.
ex.

16
12
1
8
16  begin bet 16
25  bet 16,25
9    16,25,9
13  16,25,9,13
34  16,25,9,13,34

until you bet 10 numbers ?
then bet these 10 nrs for 5 spins max with progr ?
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: Ralph on Aug 05, 05:04 AM 2012
The reapeater method sounds very good!

"Plaly it again Sam!"
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: TwoCatSam on Aug 05, 03:48 PM 2012
Quote from: Stepkevh on Aug 05, 02:07 AM 2012
i think i don't understand your 4th system very well

i get the part when to bet but what about betting the next nine .
Do you mean that you include them in your bet with your double number.
ex.

16
12
1
8
16  begin bet 16
25  bet 16,25
9    16,25,9
13  16,25,9,13
34  16,25,9,13,34

until you bet 10 numbers ?
then bet these 10 nrs for 5 spins max with progr ?

You bet the 16 AND the next nine numbers to come, assuming you have no win.  All in all, you bet ten numbers total: one once and one ten times.  If you lose on all ten spins, you stop and wait for another opportunity and use a progression to compensate for the loss.

Sam
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: Stepkevh on Aug 05, 04:38 PM 2012
Okay Sam thx  :thumbsup:

i already tested it like the way i said and most of the times you get your hit before you reach your 10th number  ;D
sometimes it goes 5 steps behind the 10th number ie the 15th spin.

All by all its a very good betting system  :xd:
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: marvin on Aug 05, 08:40 PM 2012
sooo simple yet i wasnt able to think about any of them.
wtg! sam  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: TwoCatSam on Aug 05, 10:32 PM 2012
***********You bet the 16 AND the next nine numbers to come, assuming you have no win.  All in all, you bet ten numbers total: one once and one ten times.  If you lose on all ten spins, you stop and wait for another opportunity and use a progression to compensate for the loss.

Sam*******


Once again I posted a hasty answer and once again I was wrong.

Using the example:

16
x
x
x
16

We are speaking of a marquee where 10 number show.   If more than ten show, use a post-it note and block off the rest--just show ten.  When the older of the two 16s are off the screen, stop betting. 

This

16
16

gives more chances than this

16
x
x
x
16

Not gonna count; would make another mistake!

Sam
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: TwoCatSam on Aug 11, 10:49 AM 2012
Last chance to hear me on this.......well--probably, but not for sure!  Maybe!  Might make a movie!

Hey,

If you want to make some dimes (yuk yuk) you really need to check out the "numbers are repeating" on Bet Voyager.  I'm about ready to throw dollars at this one.

Sam

Movie on request only!


Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: Tamino on Aug 11, 12:40 PM 2012
Would Nathan Detroit play this  system???

Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: TwoCatSam on Aug 11, 01:35 PM 2012
Tamino

I don't know, but why the question?  I like ND, but he's not a judge and jury of systems, is he?

Sam
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: Ralph on Aug 11, 02:50 PM 2012
I was "owner" of a online casino a few years ago. It was running from the United  States, a native American territory. You  linked up to theire server, they took care of everything, and payed a share for marketing the play via my own website, The actual playing was on my site, using theire software,
Look and feel could be as I decide, 
The  site is not running by me anymore, but the name may be used, as I sold it on auction.

The  name was Casino Bogart. 

It was a Sam there.
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: Twisteruk on Aug 11, 03:18 PM 2012
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Aug 11, 10:49 AM 2012
Last chance to hear me on this.......well--probably, but not for sure!  Maybe!  Might make a movie!

Hey,

If you want to make some dimes (yuk yuk) you really need to check out the "numbers are repeating" on Bet Voyager.  I'm about ready to throw dollars at this one.

Sam

Movie on request only!

Sam, I promise you the second you start following those repeats they will dry up. Trust me.

Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: TwoCatSam on Aug 11, 03:58 PM 2012
Twister

Things always "dry up".  I know that.  But they freshen up again.

I made money with this system in 2008 and I made money with it today.  That's good enough for me.

Sam
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: TwoCatSam on Aug 21, 02:58 PM 2012
BV 8 21 2 (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=mRQ3fkwjBV0#ws)

Dang!  This forum makes it hard to cut and paste.  Part two is below.  Only 27 seconds.

The phone call is over at 9:40 and I'm back.
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: TwoCatSam on Aug 21, 02:59 PM 2012
Part two

link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=YRlzhoqsQzU&feature=player_detailpage# (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=YRlzhoqsQzU&feature=player_detailpage#)
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: Twisteruk on Aug 21, 03:16 PM 2012
Sam, I love ure vids ! Thank you for sharing them with us  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: TwoCatSam on Aug 21, 03:19 PM 2012
You're Welcome!!
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: Ralph on Aug 21, 03:29 PM 2012
I did a play equal to the last video, using dime, got 17 units. it looks (have no sound on weil my wife watch TV.) like you
using two methods in paralell. Repeaters plein, and EC/col.

Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: TwoCatSam on Aug 21, 03:31 PM 2012
Ralph

I'm using Boffin's, Mops Surround and my two out of the last five repeaters.

Get some head phones, Bro!!

Sam
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: Twisteruk on Aug 21, 03:34 PM 2012
Sam you were also puttin a dime on every number that hit until it repeated. How long do you do that for with out a hit ?
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: TwoCatSam on Aug 21, 04:10 PM 2012
Twister

When I get 23 23, back to back, I bet 23 for ten spins.  If no win, I wait for next trigger down the road.  34 34 and I bet 34.  I go on as long as necessary from day to day using a progression for one number.  I have never lost.

And

When I get two hits in the past five spins, I begin with the number that made it two hits...34 x x x 34..I begin with 34 and bet it and the next nine numbers.  Fifteen is as high as I've gone.  Now, if I don't hit in 10 spins, I wait for another trigger--maybe the next day.  I keep records.

BUT

If I ever win a unit, that's it.  I'm done with all systems and back to the original bet.

Greed is not good in roulette/baccarat!

Sam
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: rayhd63 on Aug 21, 04:35 PM 2012
Hi Sam,

I played your Number Repeater with spins from Wiesbaden August 19th 2012 table 3
and here is a result : "Unbelievable"

And that was with no progression !!! I read it later that you do make progression.
Which progression do you use ?!?

I'm going to check on that more deeply ;-))

Ray
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: rayhd63 on Aug 21, 04:49 PM 2012
Sam,

I hope it is Ok if I asked Nick if would make a Excel list like his 6 Repeater.

Ray  8)
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: TwoCatSam on Aug 21, 04:55 PM 2012
Sure, but Victor will be creating a bot for it.  When his time permits.......

Sam
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: Ralph on Aug 21, 05:04 PM 2012
I have won most chasing repeaters, It works flat, progression can fail, but on the other hand it can win more than you can expect, if you are lucky.

I try more than 10 spins, a progression adding one, is a rather strong progression on straight up bets.
You win more if the hit comes after a few spin than if it comes first spin.
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: Stepkevh on Aug 21, 05:12 PM 2012
i also use the repeater chaser with progression

because sometimes a repeater comes within the 10 spins but sometimes it comes around the 15/16 th spin
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: TwoCatSam on Aug 21, 06:17 PM 2012
Guys

I am content to wait out the repeaters.  They always come.  If not this ten, then the next one.

Sam
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: Twisteruk on Aug 22, 03:47 AM 2012
Sam, anymore great vids for us to watch ??

I hope so !
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: rayhd63 on Aug 22, 04:52 AM 2012
Sam,

could you tell me how you do the progression on that ?!?

After 8 misses you are +/- 0 and then your next two wins would leave you in a minus -9 and -19
Do you progress the 9th and 10th ?

Or do you progress the next trigger ?!?

Progression +1 +2 +4 ?!?

Ray  8)
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: Ralph on Aug 22, 04:59 AM 2012
If you flat bet, over 8, you must expect more than one hit.
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: TwoCatSam on Aug 22, 08:14 AM 2012
Ray

I flat bet for seven.  On spins eight and nine, I place two chips.  On spin 10, three.  Then I stop.

Returning after another trigger and starting at 1, which would be bet 11:

1..3 chips
2..3
3..4
4..4
5..4
6..5
7..7

That's as far as I've ever gone into the progression.

The first 10 takes 92 chips.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8&8 9&9 10&10&10.

So on the first bet of your second trot, you must win 92 + some profit.  3 chips on one number = 3x35=105-the 92 lost on trot one=13.

Second bet:  All is same except you now bet two bets at 3u and lose one for a profit of 10u.

And so on.

I hope my math is right.

Sam
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: rayhd63 on Aug 22, 01:44 PM 2012
Thanks Sam ,

I got it now !!

Ray 8)
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: denzie on Jun 04, 02:37 PM 2015
How many of the 4 systems you still play?
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: vladir on Jun 04, 02:53 PM 2015
Anyone still playing any of this?
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: Tamino on Jun 04, 03:43 PM 2015
Winning  systems???? 
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: TwoCatSam on Jun 04, 11:07 PM 2015
Guys,

I'll have to re-visit these!

Sam
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: denzie on Jun 05, 03:22 AM 2015
Good idea Sam
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: BalkanBoy on Jun 07, 07:31 AM 2015
Can someone please explain the "one-number progression"? I don't understand? If we bet for 10 spins on a single number we don't need progression? Is it maybe:
1. spin - 1 chip
2. spin - 2 chips
3. spin - 3 chips
...
10. spin - 10 chips?
Title: Re: FOUR SYSTEMS I HAVE USED TO ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY
Post by: denzie on Jun 10, 05:16 AM 2015
Good question. ..i would keep it flat  :o