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Title: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: ScoobyDoo on May 16, 09:03 PM 2010
Hi Guys,
This method is actually the REVERSE-ZONE.  I have emailed it to Fender1000 but he has not replied me yet. 

I like playing the dozens but if you play 2 dozens at the same time, your win rate will only be around 64% of the time.

My method wins 98. 27% of the time not including losses from Zero however, I have a way to minimize that.  Ok, lets begin:

What you will be looking for is a trigger.  The trigger is a group of the last four decisions that include ONLY TWO of the three dozens. 

Example: 1,2,1,1 - 2,2,3,2 - 3,3,3,1

There 15 in each group of either the 1&2's, 1&3"s or 2&3's

There is a total of 81 groups of four various dozens.

The idea is to wait for a trigger (the previous four spins with only two dozens) and then bet the next four spins on the two dozens in the previous four spins.

If you are betting on Dozens 1&2, the only sequence that can beat you is: 3,3,3,3

If you are betting on Dozens 1&3, the only sequence that can beat you is: 2,2,2,2

If you are betting on Dozens 2&3, the only sequence that can beat you is: 1,1,1,1

So that means there are 80 ways to win and only one way to lose!! 98. 27%

Now, if a Zero comes up during tracking, start over.  If a Zero comes up while betting, stop and start tracking again.  Take the loss.

This method is NOT meant for continuous play.  Play to win 5 units and then play again later. 

As far as a betting method goes, the only one I can think of is 1,1-3,3-9,9-27,27

If you have other ideas, please feel free to post them with explanations.

Have Fun. . .

ScoobyDoo
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: VLS on May 16, 10:52 PM 2010
QuoteAs far as a betting method goes, the only one I can think of is 1,1-3,3-9,9-27,27

Have you tried a conscious POSITIVE progression instead?

It it my experience those who want to overcome the maximum dispersions with the most money, tend to have a shaky experience over time (the 1-hit-recoups-all crew).

It is better to surf the waves and increase the bets when the hits are clumping...
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: iggiv on May 17, 05:02 PM 2010
I don't think it will work, mate :(
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: buffalowizard on May 18, 11:13 AM 2010
Quote from: iggiv link=topic=101. msg543#msg543 date=1274130178
I don't think it will work, mate :(

I picked up a random card from a past casino visit and had 2 losses within 100 spins.  Would have hurt!
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: VLS on May 18, 11:15 AM 2010
Oh guys, we need the automated testers, the generated charts, the custom-variants with different progressions etc...

I wish I could be coding RouletteSoftware.cc faster, I wish I had more time in the day, but oh well. I gotta wait to use my own tools too...  :-\
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: iggiv on May 18, 12:34 PM 2010
Let's say it straight. Betting on a table layout means a huge bankroll.

Vic what would u say from your experience? U have played a lot with dozens haven't u?
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: VLS on May 18, 01:56 PM 2010
Yes, the layout outside bets has been historically a big bankroll demander, as the more numbers coverage, the larger the bank required to face mid/large dispersions due to the smaller return (1 to 1 or 1 to 2).

The inside selections on the other hand can target only a few numbers, which obviously derives in better return per hit and hence less bank required on the lenghty dispersions per reasonable session-length.




Of course, it is a matter of personal preference dear Iggiv. I know some people who aren't comfortable betting anything less than 50% of the board (i.e. roughly an even chance) and other going as high as 24 numbers bettors.

Still, ultimately what matters is making consistent wins, whatever the numbers are.

Reminds me about someone who said you only need to leave 2 numbers out to derive a profit, and if advantage players (i.e. VB, bias) are so good spotting the best landing zone with plenty of effort, how come they won't be able to leave only 2 numbers out and bet 35 comfortably at the automated machines.

Well, there you are, as usual it is a matter of taste!
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: iggiv on May 18, 02:44 PM 2010
matter of common sense and some knowledge as well. Just think logically. If there were more chances to win on dozens, rows, streets etc, would they let u? No way. They let u do it cause they know it is conveniently looking but in reality it has more chances to lose than betting single numbers. It is just an illusion that u spend less on dozens.

think it this way. we spend 1 unit on dozen, we lose 1 unit. or win 2.
now we spend 12 units betting numbers accordin to some rules. let's say hot sector.
hot sector has more chances to win than any dozen, cause dozen doesn't have any connection to wheel.

so if we make 12 units small in proportion, then we have much more chances to win with the same money. Thus much less chances to win on table dozen.

Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: iggiv on May 18, 05:01 PM 2010
for example, this system. U wanna bet like that? wait for 4 last, bla-bla-bla...

fine. Make "wheel dozens", 3 sectors of 12. bet on them according to your system. Harder? sure, it is. but return will be much better.
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: ScoobyDoo on May 18, 05:35 PM 2010
Well Guys,
Let me explain a little more. . .

With groups that have only two dozens showing in a group of the last 4 spins, (1&2 - 1&3 - 2&3) each group has 15 possibilities.  The total number of outcomes of 4 spin dozens is 81. 

For dozens 1&2, the only thing out of 81 possible combinations that can beat you is 3,3,3,3.

For dozens 1&3, the only thing out of 81 possible combinations that can beat you is 2,2,2,2

For dozens 2&3, the only thing out of 81 possible combinations that can beat you is 1,1,1,1

If you had 4 losses in 100 spins, then one of these three things had to have happened.  The approximate odds against that happening is 98. 27%. . . . . How much more for 4 times within 100 spins????

I suggest going back and looking to see if those events actually happened.  I'm not saying it's impossible for it to happen. . . bur 4 times in 100 spins???? Questionable. 

Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: ScoobyDoo on May 18, 05:49 PM 2010
Also keep in mind that the idea here is to jump in. . . win 2 to 5 units and then quit.  Play only two sessions a day.  Playing this way, you should have many, many wins before ever experiencing a loss.  The amount won should be a lot more than whatever you lose.

But going 100 spins in a row without a break is definately NOT the way to play.  The most number of spins per session should only be 20. . . . . . and usually it will be a lot less than that.
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: iggiv on May 18, 06:49 PM 2010
test it on RX first, then test it on playtech live and betvoyager with pennies. For long time. don't rise your stakes quickly.
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: iggiv on May 18, 07:04 PM 2010
i tried it a few times, it worked on a 1st time. who knows. maybe it will work. but u won't make much money with this method, will u? bankroll 80, winning goal max 5 units.
1/16 of your bankroll.

If this method holds steady then yes, u can make it in a long run. But if you lose only one time, u will need 16 or more sessions to win to get back your money.
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: VLS on May 18, 07:17 PM 2010
Like turbo said: some methods are "Long term investment".

Thing is if you average better than a 16 to 1 win to lose ratio, then that's it :)

Remember Lionel aimed to 2.5% of session bank! (And he made the original bank several times per year).

Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: iggiv on May 18, 09:13 PM 2010
Quote from: VLS on May 18, 07:17 PM 2010
Like turbo said: some methods are "Long term investment".

Thing is if you average better than a 16 to 1 win to lose ratio, then that's it :)

Remember Lionel aimed to 2.5% of session bank! (And he made the original bank several times per year).



Did he really  stop each time when he won 2.5% of his bankroll?
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: VLS on May 18, 10:41 PM 2010
Quote from: iggiv on May 18, 09:13 PM 2010
Did he really  stop each time when he won 2.5% of his bankroll?

Well as he is the only one who does really know this, maybe if Lionel is so gentle to join and participate with us, he can answer that himself  :)
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: ScoobyDoo on May 19, 03:25 AM 2010
Thanks Iggiv for even trying it once. Once doesn't prove anything but maybe it will encourage you to try it a few more times.

You said that you won't earn very much money with this method....Well that's true if you are only using $1.00 as you unit size but if your unit size was larger...say $10.00 and you played for five wins, two or three times a day, that's some pretty good money.

This method was not designed to be fun or to make you a millionaire....it was designed to make a consistant profit on a daily basis......day after day...week after week...month after month.
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: iggiv on May 22, 02:51 PM 2010
Scooby,

What if we try to this for a wheel layout? lets say watch certain 12 numbers sectors. then bet them with small units.
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: warrior on Jun 14, 02:32 PM 2010
Quote from: ScoobyDoo on May 16, 09:03 PM 2010
Hi Guys,
This method is actually the REVERSE-ZONE.  I have emailed it to Fender1000 but he has not replied me yet. 

I like playing the dozens but if you play 2 dozens at the same time, your win rate will only be around 64% of the time.

My method wins 98. 27% of the time not including losses from Zero however, I have a way to minimize that.  Ok, lets begin:

What you will be looking for is a trigger.  The trigger is a group of the last four decisions that include ONLY TWO of the three dozens. 

Example: 1,2,1,1 - 2,2,3,2 - 3,3,3,1

There 15 in each group of either the 1&2's, 1&3"s or 2&3's

There is a total of 81 groups of four various dozens.

The idea is to wait for a trigger (the previous four spins with only two dozens) and then bet the next four spins on the two dozens in the previous four spins.

If you are betting on Dozens 1&2, the only sequence that can beat you is: 3,3,3,3

If you are betting on Dozens 1&3, the only sequence that can beat you is: 2,2,2,2

If you are betting on Dozens 2&3, the only sequence that can beat you is: 1,1,1,1

So that means there are 80 ways to win and only one way to lose!! 98. 27%

Now, if a Zero comes up during tracking, start over.  If a Zero comes up while betting, stop and start tracking again.  Take the loss.

This method is NOT meant for continuous play.  Play to win 5 units and then play again later. 

As far as a betting method goes, the only one I can think of is 1,1-3,3-9,9-27,27

If you have other ideas, please feel free to post them with explanations.

Have Fun. . .

ScoobyDoo
THIS SYSTEM works well  play to 5 units and then get out  its working well for me thanks scooby.
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: Wally Gator on Jun 14, 06:11 PM 2010
Does zero/double zero count as a miss when in the 4 count sequence?

Example:

12
1
34
6
0
24
19
00
2
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: warrior on Jun 14, 06:18 PM 2010
Quote from: Wally Gator on Jun 14, 06:11 PM 2010
Does zero/double zero count as a miss when in the 4 count sequence?

Example:

12
1
34
6
0
24
19
00
2

wally in the zone it does im sure here.
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: Wally Gator on Jun 14, 08:22 PM 2010
Attached is last 800 consecutive spins, live wheel, Foxwoods.  Ran dozens only.  If someone wants to run the columns, cool ... make your own determinations.
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: warrior on Jun 15, 08:40 AM 2010
I have been usung this just like the cross play 5 with the dozens and the colums very interestin results.i will post some results when im done the testing on this.
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: CashGrowth on Jun 15, 09:26 AM 2010
Thanks for this testing WallyGator, 800 spins is a good chunk and this method sounds not bad.
Best of luck,
CashGrowth.

Quote from: Wally Gator on Jun 14, 08:22 PM 2010
Attached is last 800 consecutive spins, live wheel, Foxwoods.  Ran dozens only.  If someone wants to run the columns, cool ... make your own determinations.
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: Hermes on Jun 18, 05:11 PM 2010
The idea has something in itself. Leveller or Penthouse progression would keep it over the water. The trigger could be to look for 4 after some long streak of one dozen. Eg.
3333032122 now you have more probability that the 3rd dozen doesn't come next 4 spins in row. The same could be done with columns, not to waste a time.
Hermes
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: GLC on Jun 18, 11:03 PM 2010
Quote from: ScoobyDoo on May 18, 05:35 PM 2010
Well Guys,
Let me explain a little more. . .

With groups that have only two dozens showing in a group of the last 4 spins, (1&2 - 1&3 - 2&3) each group has 15 possibilities.  The total number of outcomes of 4 spin dozens is 81.  

For dozens 1&2, the only thing out of 81 possible combinations that can beat you is 3,3,3,3.

For dozens 1&3, the only thing out of 81 possible combinations that can beat you is 2,2,2,2

For dozens 2&3, the only thing out of 81 possible combinations that can beat you is 1,1,1,1

If you had 4 losses in 100 spins, then one of these three things had to have happened.  The approximate odds against that happening is 98. 27%. . . . . How much more for 4 times within 100 spins????

I suggest going back and looking to see if those events actually happened.  I'm not saying it's impossible for it to happen. . . bur 4 times in 100 spins???? Questionable.  


Scooby,

I love you like a father and so I pose the following observation with great humility.

I don't think you are putting enough emphasis on the zero's.  You said that 3333; 2222; 1111 are the only thing that can hurt you, what about 0333, 3033, 3303, 3330; 0222, 2022, 2202, 2220; and 0111, 1011, 1101, 1110.  That's 12 more possibilities that can hurt you and at least four of them, the one's ending in zero cost you the same as four 3's or four 2's or four 1's.

Maybe I'm putting too much weight on the zero's and they're not as dangerous as I suspect.  Testing will tell.  I'm sure you're right.  This should be a hit and run system only.

Hermes' betting suggestions may take some of the sting out of a rash of zero's hitting.

Submitted respectfully,    GLC
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: GLC on Jan 22, 04:39 PM 2012

ScoobyDoo,

I'm glad this system was brought up again.  I notice after reading through the topic again that you more than adequately dealt with the zeros. 


What was I thinking about when I made my last reply?


My apologies my friend,


GLC
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: amk on Jan 22, 04:51 PM 2012
ScoobyDoo...........  where are you.......... :)

I miss ScoobyDoo but I hope he has found success.........
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: iggiv on Jan 23, 12:06 AM 2012
Last Active: October 16, 2011, 02:09:07 AM
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: MadMax on Jan 23, 07:09 AM 2012
I´ve run this system with a 700k spin sample. End balance -37633
In the reveal are the first 1000 spins of this test. The single numbers are the dozens as they came, if a dozen becomes qualified, this is signed with a "betting line". The BR shown is always the BR before the bet is placed!
(You will notice a bug in the very first bet: its´s a bet against zero. That doesn´t influence the result, only that the following BRs are always 1 unit higher then they should)
[reveal]      1. Try against dozen: 0     BR: 0
3
1
2
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: 1
0
2
2
2
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -1
1
3
2
3
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: 0
3
1
3
2
1
2
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: 1
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -1
3
      3. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -7
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: 2
3
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: 3
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: 1
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: 4
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: 2
3
      3. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -4
3
      4. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -22
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: 5
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: 6
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: 4
1
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: 7
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: 8
1
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: 9
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: 7
3
      3. Try against dozen: 3     BR: 1
0
1
3
3
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -17
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -19
3
3
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -16
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -15
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -14
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -13
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -12
3
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -11
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -13
3
0
3
2
2
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -10
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -12
3
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -9
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -11
2
      3. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -17
1
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -8
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -10
3
      3. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -16
3
      4. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -34
3
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -88
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -87
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -86
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -88
2
      3. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -94
2
      4. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -112
3
1
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -85
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -87
2
      3. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -93
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -84
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -86
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -83
3
2
3
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -82
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -81
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -83
2
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -80
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -82
3
      3. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -88
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -79
1
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -78
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -80
3
      3. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -86
3
      4. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -104
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -77
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -76
3
2
2
1
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -75
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -74
0
3
1
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -76
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -75
3
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -74
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -76
1
      3. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -82
2
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -73
0
1
2
2
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -75
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -77
3
      3. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -83
3
      4. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -101
3
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -155
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -157
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -154
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -153
3
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -152
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -151
2
1
3
2
2
1
3
2
3
1
2
2
3
0
2
2
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -150
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -152
1
2
3
3
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -149
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -148
3
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -147
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -149
2
      3. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -155
1
3
2
3
1
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -146
1
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -145
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -144
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -143
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -145
1
3
2
3
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -142
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -141
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -140
3
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -139
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -141
2
3
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -138
3
1
0
2
2
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -137
2
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -136
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -138
2
2
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -135
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -137
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -134
1
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -133
1
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -132
1
3
1
2
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -131
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -133
3
      3. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -139
1
0
1
2
2
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -130
1
3
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -129
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -131
3
1
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -128
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -127
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -126
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -125
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -124
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -126
1
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -123
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -125
1
2
2
3
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      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -122
2
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -121
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -123
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -120
3
2
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -119
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -118
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -120
0
3
3
3
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -126
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -128
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -125
2
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -124
2
3
3
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -123
0
2
3
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -125
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -127
1
      3. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -133
2
3
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -124
2
1
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -123
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -125
2
2
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -122
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -124
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -121
1
2
3
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -120
3
0
3
3
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -119
3
1
2
3
3
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -118
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -120
2
      3. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -126
1
3
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -117
1
2
2
3
1
2
3
2
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -116
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -115
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -117
2
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -114
1
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -113
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -115
3
      3. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -121
1
2
1
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -112
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -111
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -113
2
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -110
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -109
3
0
3
1
3
2
1
2
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -108
1
3
2
1
2
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -107
1
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -106
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -105
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -107
3
      3. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -113
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -104
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -106
1
2
3
1
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -103
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -102
0
1
2
2
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -104
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -106
2
1
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -103
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -102
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -104
3
2
3
1
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -101
3
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -100
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -102
1
3
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -99
3
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -98
3
2
1
3
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -97
1
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -96
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -98
1
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -95
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -97
1
2
3
3
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -94
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -96
2
      3. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -102
3
1
2
3
2
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -93
2
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -92
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -94
3
2
1
3
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -91
1
2
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -90
1
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -89
1
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -88
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -87
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -89
2
1
1
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -86
2
3
1
2
3
1
2
2
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -85
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -84
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -86
0
1
0
2
3
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -92
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -91
1
2
1
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -90
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -92
3
      3. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -98
3
      4. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -116
2
1
1
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -89
2
0
2
3
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -88
2
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -87
2
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -86
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -88
2
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -85
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -87
2
2
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -84
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -86
1
      3. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -92
3
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -83
3
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -82
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -81
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -80
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -79
3
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -78
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -80
3
3
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -77
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -79
1
3
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -76
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -75
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -77
2
      3. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -83
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -74
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -76
3
      3. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -82
3
      4. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -100
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -73
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -75
3
2
1
3
3
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -72
3
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -71
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -73
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -70
2
3
1
2
2
3
1
3
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -69
3
2
3
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -68
3
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -67
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -69
1
      3. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -75
3
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -66
3
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -65
3
2
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -64
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -66
2
3
3
0
2
2
2
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -63
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -65
2
3
1
3
2
3
0
2
1
3
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -62
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -64
2
      3. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -70
2
      4. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -88
1
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -61
2
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -60
0
2
3
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -62
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -64
3
3
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -61
1
0
3
3
3
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -60
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -59
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -58
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -57
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -59
3
1
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -56
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -58
0
1
1
2
3
2
0
1
2
3
2
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -64
3
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -63
0
1
3
2
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -65
3
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -64
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -63
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -62
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -64
1
      3. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -70
3
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -61
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -63
2
      3. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -69
3
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -60
2
1
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -59
2
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -58
2
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -57
1
3
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -56
1
2
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -55
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -57
3
      3. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -63
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -54
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -56
3
2
1
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -53
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -55
1
2
3
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -52
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -51
3
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -50
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -52
1
      3. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -58
0
0
3
3
1
2
2
3
1
3
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -76
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -75
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -77
3
1
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -74
3
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -73
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -75
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -72
2
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -71
2
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -70
1
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -69
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -71
1
2
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -68
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -70
3
      3. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -76
2
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -67
3
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -66
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -68
3
3
2
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -65
3
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -64
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -66
1
      3. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -72
2
3
2
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -63
0
1
2
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -65
1
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -64
2
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -63
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -62
1
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -61
1
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -60
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -59
1
3
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -58
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -60
2
      3. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -66
2
      4. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -84
1
3
3
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -57
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -59
3
3
1
2
3
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -56
2
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -55
2
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -54
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -56
3
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -53
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -52
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -54
3
3
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -51
2
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -50
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -49
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -51
3
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -48
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -50
3
2
3
1
1
3
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -47
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -49
3
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -46
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -48
2
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -45
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -44
1
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -43
2
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -42
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -44
2
1
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -41
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -43
1
3
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -40
1
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -39
2
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -38
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -40
2
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -37
3
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -36
3
2
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -35
2
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -34
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -33
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -32
2
1
0
2
2
2
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -31
0
2
3
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -33
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -35
0
3
3
0
1
1
2
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -41
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -43
0
1
2
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -49
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -51
2
3
1
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -48
0
3
2
2
1
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -50
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -52
1
1
0
3
2
1
3
3
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -49
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -48
3
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -47
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -49
3
1
1
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -46
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -48
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -45
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -47
2
3
3
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -44
1
      2. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -46
1
      3. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -52
3
2
1
3
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -43
3
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -42
1
1
      1. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -41
2
      2. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -43
2
      3. Try against dozen: 2     BR: -49
1
2
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -40
3
      2. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -42
2
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -39
2
3
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -38
2
2
      1. Try against dozen: 1     BR: -37
2
1
[/reveal]

PS. Just noticed another difference to the original rule: after a winning spin, there is alway done one more spin before a new calculation was done. But I think, that doesn´t change the result much.
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: MadMax on Jan 23, 07:37 AM 2012
I have revised the code of my test, so after recalculating after every win the end balance would be -62945.
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: superman on Jan 23, 07:40 AM 2012
QuotePS. Just noticed another difference to the original rule: after a winning spin, there is alway done one more spin before a new calculation was done

That was probably added after a string of losses, like most failing systems/methods the player/s seem to think it will prevent the next loss.

QuoteBut I think, that doesn´t change the result much

Correct Max
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: flukey luke on Jan 23, 08:20 AM 2012
The first person to say that if this does not work, (balance: - 62945) then the opposite is a winning system should be BANNED in my opinion.  :D
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: bikemotorman on Jan 23, 08:29 AM 2012
Say What should be banned...

                                                 

                                               :lol:
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: vundarosa on Jan 23, 07:35 PM 2012
Quote from: MadMax on Jan 23, 07:37 AM 2012
I have revised the code of my test, so after recalculating after every win the end balance would be -62945.

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MadMax, i think you misunderstand the bet....you should be betting the two qualifying dozens till you get a win for a maximum of four times with 80units risk

so if 1221 comes out you bet 1-1,if win retract if not bet 3-3 / 9-9 / 27-27....each time you win you retract

vundarosa
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: MadMax on Jan 24, 12:44 AM 2012
Hi vundarosa!
But I think, thats what I did. Maybe you are mixed because of a sequence at the beginning of my reveal (or by a misunderstanding in reading my list):

   1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: 1
0
2
2
2
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -1

Here, the attack stops after the first bet, because a zero is following our first bet. According to the rules as I understand it, there are no bets to place then for this attack. Otherwise the attack would continoue until stage 4 of progression.
What I have done wrong is the waiting before retracking. This was revised in the result of my 2. post.
I hope, this clears it. If I don´t see something, please explain it to me.
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: marivo on Jan 24, 06:07 AM 2012
Quote from: flukey luke on Jan 23, 08:20 AM 2012
The first person to say that if this does not work, (balance: - 62945) then the opposite is a winning system should be BANNED in my opinion.  :D
:o ??? >:D

Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: vundarosa on Jan 24, 09:14 AM 2012
Quote from: MadMax on Jan 24, 12:44 AM 2012
Hi vundarosa!
But I think, that's what I did. Maybe you are mixed because of a sequence at the beginning of my reveal (or by a misunderstanding in reading my list):

   1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: 1
0
2
2
2
1
      1. Try against dozen: 3     BR: -1

Here, the attack stops after the first bet, because a zero is following our first bet. According to the rules as I understand it, there are no bets to place then for this attack. Otherwise the attack would continoue until stage 4 of progression.
What I have done wrong is the waiting before retracking. This was revised in the result of my 2. post.
I hope, this clears it. If I don´t see something, please explain it to me.

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ahhh, ok....i see what you're saying....what if you'd bet only once and retract win or lose
progression up 2u on loss down 1 on a win and if even or ahead restart progression
any chance you can have a look at that?!

vundarosa
Title: Re: PLAY DOZENS AND WIN 98.27% of THE TIME!
Post by: MadMax on Jan 24, 12:46 PM 2012
Hi vundarosa!
I have tested the method you suggested.
The good news: the 700k spin test ended +72015
The bad one: highest betsize 602 units, largest drawdown 143087
The first 1000 results in the reveal to recheck.
[reveal]3
1
2
2
2
    against: 3   1 Units       BR before bet: 0
0
2
2
2
1
    against: 3   1 Units       BR before bet: 0
1
    against: 3   1 Units       BR before bet: 1
3
2
3
2
    against: 1   3 Units       BR before bet: -1
3
    against: 1   1 Units       BR before bet: 2
1
3
2
1
2
1
    against: 3   3 Units       BR before bet: 0
3
3
2
2
    against: 1   5 Units       BR before bet: -6
3
    against: 1   4 Units       BR before bet: -1
2
    against: 1   1 Units       BR before bet: 3
1
2
2
    against: 3   3 Units       BR before bet: 1
3
3
    against: 1   5 Units       BR before bet: -5
3
    against: 1   4 Units       BR before bet: 0
1
    against: 2   6 Units       BR before bet: -8
3
    against: 2   5 Units       BR before bet: -2
1
    against: 2   4 Units       BR before bet: 3
3
    against: 2   1 Units       BR before bet: 7
2
1
1
1
    against: 3   3 Units       BR before bet: 5
1
    against: 2   1 Units       BR before bet: 8
1
    against: 2   1 Units       BR before bet: 9
1
    against: 2   1 Units       BR before bet: 10
2
    against: 3   3 Units       BR before bet: 8
3
3
0
1
3
3
1
    against: 2   5 Units       BR before bet: 2
2
3
3
1
3
    against: 2   7 Units       BR before bet: -8
3
    against: 2   6 Units       BR before bet: -1
3
    against: 2   5 Units       BR before bet: 5
1
    against: 2   4 Units       BR before bet: 10
3
    against: 2   1 Units       BR before bet: 14
3
    against: 2   1 Units       BR before bet: 15
3
    against: 2   1 Units       BR before bet: 16
1
    against: 2   1 Units       BR before bet: 17
1
    against: 2   1 Units       BR before bet: 18
3
    against: 2   1 Units       BR before bet: 19
1
    against: 2   1 Units       BR before bet: 20
2
3
0
3
2
2
3
    against: 1   3 Units       BR before bet: 18
1
3
1
    against: 2   5 Units       BR before bet: 12
2
2
1
    against: 3   7 Units       BR before bet: 2
2
    against: 3   6 Units       BR before bet: 9
3
3
3
    against: 1   8 Units       BR before bet: -3
3
    against: 2   7 Units       BR before bet: 5
1
    against: 2   6 Units       BR before bet: 12
3
    against: 2   5 Units       BR before bet: 18
3
    against: 2   1 Units       BR before bet: 23
3
    against: 2   1 Units       BR before bet: 24
2
    against: 1   3 Units       BR before bet: 22
2
    against: 1   1 Units       BR before bet: 25
2
    against: 1   1 Units       BR before bet: 26
3
    against: 1   1 Units       BR before bet: 27
1
1
3
    against: 2   3 Units       BR before bet: 25
2
2
1
1
    against: 3   5 Units       BR before bet: 19
3
1
    against: 2   7 Units       BR before bet: 9
1
    against: 2   6 Units       BR before bet: 16
3
    against: 2   5 Units       BR before bet: 22
2
3
2
    against: 1   7 Units       BR before bet: 12
3
    against: 1   6 Units       BR before bet: 19
3
    against: 1   5 Units       BR before bet: 25
1
2
2
2
    against: 3   7 Units       BR before bet: 15
3
    against: 1   9 Units       BR before bet: 1
3
    against: 1   8 Units       BR before bet: 10
1
1
    against: 2   10 Units       BR before bet: -6
1
    against: 2   9 Units       BR before bet: 4
2
    against: 3   11 Units       BR before bet: -14
3
3
3
    against: 1   13 Units       BR before bet: -36
1
    against: 2   15 Units       BR before bet: -62
3
    against: 2   14 Units       BR before bet: -47
1
    against: 2   13 Units       BR before bet: -33
1
    against: 2   12 Units       BR before bet: -20
3
    against: 2   11 Units       BR before bet: -8
2
2
1
2
    against: 3   13 Units       BR before bet: -30
2
    against: 3   12 Units       BR before bet: -17
2
    against: 3   11 Units       BR before bet: -5
0
3
1
3
3
    against: 2   11 Units       BR before bet: -5
3
    against: 2   10 Units       BR before bet: 6
3
    against: 2   9 Units       BR before bet: 16
3
    against: 2   8 Units       BR before bet: 25
2
    against: 1   10 Units       BR before bet: 9
1
1
2
    against: 3   12 Units       BR before bet: -11
1
    against: 3   11 Units       BR before bet: 1
0
1
2
2
1
    against: 3   11 Units       BR before bet: 1
3
3
3
    against: 2   13 Units       BR before bet: -21
3
    against: 2   12 Units       BR before bet: -8
3
    against: 2   11 Units       BR before bet: 4
2
    against: 1   13 Units       BR before bet: -18
2
    against: 1   12 Units       BR before bet: -5
3
    against: 1   11 Units       BR before bet: 7
3
    against: 1   10 Units       BR before bet: 18
3
    against: 1   1 Units       BR before bet: 28
2
    against: 1   1 Units       BR before bet: 29
3
    against: 1   1 Units       BR before bet: 30
3
    against: 1   1 Units       BR before bet: 31
2
    against: 1   1 Units       BR before bet: 32
1
3
2
2
1
3
2
3
1
2
2
3
0
2
2
1
1
    against: 3   3 Units       BR before bet: 30
3
1
    against: 2   5 Units       BR before bet: 24
2
3
3
2
    against: 1   7 Units       BR before bet: 14
3
    against: 1   6 Units       BR before bet: 21
3
    against: 1   5 Units       BR before bet: 27
3
    against: 1   4 Units       BR before bet: 32
1
    against: 2   6 Units       BR before bet: 24
2
2
1
    against: 3   8 Units       BR before bet: 12
3
2
3
1
1
1
    against: 2   10 Units       BR before bet: -4
1
    against: 2   9 Units       BR before bet: 6
2
    against: 3   11 Units       BR before bet: -12
1
    against: 3   10 Units       BR before bet: -1
1
    against: 3   9 Units       BR before bet: 9
1
    against: 3   8 Units       BR before bet: 18
3
    against: 2   10 Units       BR before bet: 2
2
1
3
2
3
2
    against: 1   12 Units       BR before bet: -18
3
    against: 1   11 Units       BR before bet: -6
3
    against: 1   10 Units       BR before bet: 5
3
    against: 1   9 Units       BR before bet: 15
3
    against: 2   8 Units       BR before bet: 24
3
    against: 2   7 Units       BR before bet: 32
2
    against: 1   9 Units       BR before bet: 18
1
2
3
2
2
    against: 1   11 Units       BR before bet: 0
3
    against: 1   10 Units       BR before bet: 11
1
0
2
2
3
3
    against: 1   12 Units       BR before bet: -9
2
    against: 1   11 Units       BR before bet: 3
3
    against: 1   10 Units       BR before bet: 14
1
2
2
1
    against: 3   12 Units       BR before bet: -6
3
1
1
    against: 2   14 Units       BR before bet: -30
1
    against: 2   13 Units       BR before bet: -16
2
    against: 3   15 Units       BR before bet: -42
1
    against: 3   14 Units       BR before bet: -27
2
    against: 3   13 Units       BR before bet: -13
1
    against: 3   12 Units       BR before bet: 0
3
1
2
2
2
    against: 3   14 Units       BR before bet: -24
3
    against: 1   16 Units       BR before bet: -52
3
    against: 1   15 Units       BR before bet: -36
1
0
1
2
2
1
    against: 3   17 Units       BR before bet: -66
1
    against: 3   16 Units       BR before bet: -49
3
1
    against: 2   18 Units       BR before bet: -81
2
3
1
1
3
    against: 2   20 Units       BR before bet: -117
1
    against: 2   19 Units       BR before bet: -97
3
    against: 2   18 Units       BR before bet: -78
1
    against: 2   17 Units       BR before bet: -60
3
    against: 2   16 Units       BR before bet: -43
3
    against: 2   15 Units       BR before bet: -27
3
    against: 2   14 Units       BR before bet: -12
3
    against: 2   13 Units       BR before bet: 2
3
    against: 2   12 Units       BR before bet: 15
2
    against: 1   14 Units       BR before bet: -9
1
1
1
    against: 3   16 Units       BR before bet: -37
3
    against: 2   18 Units       BR before bet: -69
1
    against: 2   17 Units       BR before bet: -51
2
2
3
2
    against: 1   19 Units       BR before bet: -85
2
    against: 1   18 Units       BR before bet: -66
1
1
    against: 3   20 Units       BR before bet: -102
3
1
    against: 2   22 Units       BR before bet: -142
3
    against: 2   21 Units       BR before bet: -120
3
    against: 2   20 Units       BR before bet: -99
2
3
    against: 1   22 Units       BR before bet: -139
2
    against: 1   21 Units       BR before bet: -117
2
    against: 1   20 Units       BR before bet: -96
1
0
3
3
3
2
    against: 1   22 Units       BR before bet: -136
1
2
2
    against: 3   24 Units       BR before bet: -180
2
    against: 3   23 Units       BR before bet: -156
1
    against: 3   22 Units       BR before bet: -133
2
    against: 3   21 Units       BR before bet: -111
3
3
1
3
    against: 2   23 Units       BR before bet: -153
0
2
3
2
2
    against: 1   23 Units       BR before bet: -153
1
1
    against: 3   25 Units       BR before bet: -199
2
    against: 3   24 Units       BR before bet: -174
3
3
3
    against: 1   26 Units       BR before bet: -222
2
    against: 1   25 Units       BR before bet: -196
1
1
1
    against: 3   27 Units       BR before bet: -246
3
    against: 2   29 Units       BR before bet: -300
2
2
3
    against: 1   31 Units       BR before bet: -358
1
3
3
    against: 2   33 Units       BR before bet: -420
1
    against: 2   32 Units       BR before bet: -387
2
3
2
2
    against: 1   34 Units       BR before bet: -451
3
    against: 1   33 Units       BR before bet: -417
0
3
3
2
2
    against: 1   33 Units       BR before bet: -417
3
    against: 1   32 Units       BR before bet: -384
1
2
3
3
1
1
    against: 2   34 Units       BR before bet: -448
2
2
    against: 3   36 Units       BR before bet: -516
1
    against: 3   35 Units       BR before bet: -480
3
1
3
    against: 2   37 Units       BR before bet: -550
1
    against: 2   36 Units       BR before bet: -513
2
2
3
1
2
3
2
3
    against: 1   38 Units       BR before bet: -585
3
    against: 1   37 Units       BR before bet: -547
3
    against: 1   36 Units       BR before bet: -510
1
    against: 2   38 Units       BR before bet: -582
2
2
2
    against: 3   40 Units       BR before bet: -658
1
    against: 3   39 Units       BR before bet: -618
2
    against: 3   38 Units       BR before bet: -579
3
3
1
2
1
2
    against: 3   40 Units       BR before bet: -655
2
    against: 3   39 Units       BR before bet: -615
2
    against: 3   38 Units       BR before bet: -576
3
    against: 1   40 Units       BR before bet: -652
2
    against: 1   39 Units       BR before bet: -612
3
    against: 1   38 Units       BR before bet: -573
3
    against: 1   37 Units       BR before bet: -535
3
    against: 1   36 Units       BR before bet: -498
3
    against: 2   35 Units       BR before bet: -462
0
3
1
3
2
1
2
1
    against: 3   35 Units       BR before bet: -462
1
    against: 3   34 Units       BR before bet: -427
3
2
1
2
1
    against: 3   36 Units       BR before bet: -495
1
    against: 3   35 Units       BR before bet: -459
2
    against: 3   34 Units       BR before bet: -424
2
    against: 3   33 Units       BR before bet: -390
2
    against: 3   32 Units       BR before bet: -357
3
    against: 1   34 Units       BR before bet: -421
3
    against: 1   33 Units       BR before bet: -387
1
3
    against: 2   35 Units       BR before bet: -453
2
1
2
3
1
3
3
    against: 2   37 Units       BR before bet: -523
1
    against: 2   36 Units       BR before bet: -486
1
    against: 2   35 Units       BR before bet: -450
0
1
2
2
1
    against: 3   35 Units       BR before bet: -450
3
2
1
2
2
    against: 3   37 Units       BR before bet: -520
2
    against: 3   36 Units       BR before bet: -483
2
    against: 1   35 Units       BR before bet: -447
1
    against: 3   37 Units       BR before bet: -517
3
2
3
1
1
1
    against: 2   39 Units       BR before bet: -591
3
    against: 2   38 Units       BR before bet: -552
1
    against: 2   37 Units       BR before bet: -514
2
1
3
1
3
    against: 2   39 Units       BR before bet: -588
3
    against: 2   38 Units       BR before bet: -549
1
    against: 2   37 Units       BR before bet: -511
3
    against: 2   36 Units       BR before bet: -474
2
1
3
1
1
    against: 2   38 Units       BR before bet: -546
1
    against: 2   37 Units       BR before bet: -508
2
    against: 3   39 Units       BR before bet: -582
3
1
3
3
    against: 2   41 Units       BR before bet: -660
2
1
2
3
3
1
1
    against: 2   43 Units       BR before bet: -742
2
2
    against: 3   45 Units       BR before bet: -828
3
1
2
3
2
3
    against: 1   47 Units       BR before bet: -918
2
    against: 1   46 Units       BR before bet: -871
3
    against: 1   45 Units       BR before bet: -825
1
3
2
1
3
3
3
    against: 2   47 Units       BR before bet: -915
1
    against: 2   46 Units       BR before bet: -868
2
1
1
    against: 3   48 Units       BR before bet: -960
1
    against: 3   47 Units       BR before bet: -912
2
    against: 3   46 Units       BR before bet: -865
1
    against: 3   45 Units       BR before bet: -819
2
    against: 3   44 Units       BR before bet: -774
1
    against: 3   43 Units       BR before bet: -730
1
    against: 3   42 Units       BR before bet: -687
3
2
1
1
2
    against: 3   44 Units       BR before bet: -771
2
    against: 3   43 Units       BR before bet: -727
3
1
2
3
1
2
2
1
    against: 3   45 Units       BR before bet: -813
2
    against: 3   44 Units       BR before bet: -768
2
    against: 3   43 Units       BR before bet: -724
3
0
1
0
2
3
3
3
    against: 1   45 Units       BR before bet: -810
3
    against: 2   44 Units       BR before bet: -765
3
    against: 2   43 Units       BR before bet: -721
1
    against: 2   42 Units       BR before bet: -678
2
1
2
    against: 3   44 Units       BR before bet: -762
3
3
3
    against: 1   46 Units       BR before bet: -850
2
    against: 1   45 Units       BR before bet: -804
1
1
2
    against: 3   47 Units       BR before bet: -894
2
    against: 3   46 Units       BR before bet: -847
0
2
3
2
2
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1
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1
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2
3
0
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2
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3
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1
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3
2
1
1
1
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3
1
2
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3
1
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2
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1
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3
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2
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1
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2
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3
2
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1
1
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2
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2
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3
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2
3
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3
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1
1
2
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2
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1
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1
1
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1
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1
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2
1
3
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3
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1
2
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1
3
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1
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[/reveal]

Even playing 1 cent at BV would cause a max drawdown of 1430 â,¬/$/Pound (ok, a little less at NZ I guess), but I don´t know if I would saddle my horse on that.