Here's an old system by one of the best. December 12, 2007
Hi Forum
As promised here is My evens System.
It was on our old Forum So I thought I would bring it over Here.
I used the numbers that Lucky Strike provided.
I truly hope that between Lucky & Myself (and You)That we can invent an even system that is really special.
My System works this way.
I wait for an even chance, in this case I'll use Red & Black, to come up at least 3 times in a row.
Then I wait for that colour to stop the opposite colour from coming 3 times in a row.
Then I bet after the opposite colour comes up.
e.g.
BBB<B x3 times
RB<black stopped red once or X 1
RRB<black stopped red twice Or X 2
RB<black stopped red three times or X 3
Now after the next Red I will bet Black.
I will keep doing this until I lose 2 bets in a row.
Then stop & re chart again.
I bet 1 then 2.
If both lose I put the 3 lost units into a 6 point divisor plan that has its own Win target of 7.
Like this 6/10=2 to bet
14-R
7-R
27-R
30-R
16-R
27-R
9-R <<Red x 7 Red came 3 or more times
6-B
18-R<stopped B X 1
26-B
12-R<STOPPED B X 2
21-R
9-R
24-B
3-R<STOPPED B X 3 The next time Black comes I will bet Red to block it.
29-B
27-R<bet 1 win=[1] P Red blocked Black
12-R wait until Red ends
33-B
22-B<bet 1 lost â€"1 Bet for R to block B and lost 1st bet
20-B<bet 2 lost â€"3 Bet for R to block B and lost 2nd bet
10-B <<now Black has hit 3 or more times
36-R
25-R
27-R<< now Red has hit 3 times in a row
17-B
10-B
8-B<< now Black has hit 3 times in a row
16-R
33-B< stopped Red 1 time
7-R
20-B<stopped Red 2 times
9-R
36-R
3-R
7-R < now 4 Reds in a row
20-B
36-R<stopped Black 1 time
35B-
34-R<stopped Black 2 times
10-B
1-R < stopped Black 3 times. After The next black I bet Red
6-B
21-R < 6/10=2 won-1 Red stopped Black. Lanky's betting 6 point divisor now.
11-B
25-R<5/8=2 won=1+1=[2] P Red stopped Black again
6-B
12-R< bet 1 win=1+2=[3] P Red stopped Black again
29-B
14-R< bet 1 win=1+3=[4] P Red stopped Black again
13-B
26-B< bet 1 lost-1 Red didn't stop Black, one more try
29-B< bet 2 lost-3 Red didn't stop Black, lost 2 in a row
26-B<<< 3 x Blacks
12-R
35-B<stopped red x 1 Must have 3 of these before we can bet
24-B
31-B
35-B4 Blacks in a row but we already had 3 blacks in a row above.
12-R26-B<stopped red 2nd time
5-R
10-B<stopped red 3 times After the next Red I bet Black
14-R
30-R<6/10=2 lost=12 1st bet lost
20-B<6/12=2 won=10 2nd bet B stopped Red, so we win
5-R
16-R<5/10=2 lost=12 1st attempt lost
31-B<5/12=3 Won=9 2nd attempt won
O-ZERO
1-R
29-B<4/9=3 Won=6 from 7=1+4=[5] P 1st attempt won
8-B
32-R
5-R< bet 1 lost â€"1 1st attempt lost, so try again
21-R<bet 2 lost â€"3 2nd attempt lost
8-B
8-B
13-B
15-B <<<4 x black
36-R
24-B<stopped red x 1
32-R
31-B<stopped red x 2
36-R
2-B<stopped red x 3 After the next Red I bet Black
19-R
7-R=6/10=2 lost=12 1st attempt lost
22-B=6/12=2 won=10 2nd attempt won
20-B
27-R
29-B=5/10=2 won=8 1st attempt won
23-R
33-B=4/8=2 won=6 from 7=1+5=[6] P 1st attempt won
19-R
4-B=1 won=1+6=[7] P 1st attempt won
18-R
22-B=1 won=1+7=[8] P 1st attempt won
9-R
24-B=1 won=1+8=[9] P 1st attempt won As long as we win we play the same way
11-B
10-B
34-R
33-B=1 won=1+9=[10] P 1st attempt won
23-R
8-B=1 won=1+10=[11] P 1st attempt won
16-R
28-B=1 won=1+11=[12] P 1st attempt won
20-B
6-B
14-R
18-R=1 lost â€"1 Finally a loss on 1st attempt
22-B=2 won=1+12=[13] P 2nd attempt won
20-B
14-R
7-R=1 lost â€"1 1st attempt lost
8-B=2 won=1+13=[14] P As long as we win either of the bets we play the same color
24-B
28-B
24-B
35-B
4-B
10-B
4-B
18-R
34-R=1 lost â€"1
10-B=2 Won=1+14=[15] P
7-R
10-B=1 won=1+15=[16] P
28-B
34-R
7-R=1 lost â€"1
8-B=2 won=1+16=[17] P
31-B
15-B
36-R
15-B=1 won=1+17=[18] P
25-R
10-B=1 won=1+18=[19] P
5-R
29-B=1 won=1+19=[20] P
1-R
15-B=1 won=1+20=[21] P
30-R
35-B=1 Won=1+21=[22] P
25-R
26-B=1 won=1+22=[23] P
14-R
35-B=1 won=1+23=[24] Profit
21-R
Your Friend
Lanky
As we can see, this was a very good streak. It should give you enough of an example for you to understand what he's doing.
I remember that this was a very solid system. I tested it for a while, but didn't stay with it because I got sidetracked by something else and never went back to it.
For simplicity, I didn't use his 6 point divisor to recover the lost 3 units when you lose 2 times in a row.
I stayed with just a 1 2 progression.
I also tested this with a 1 2 2 4 progression and it did very well also. With this progression, you win 1 unit if you win the 1st or 2nd bet.You lose 1 unit if you win the 3rd or 4th bet.You lose 9 units if you lose all 4 bets.Naturally it has a pretty high strike rate in the 1st 2 bets else the progression would be a loser deluxe. For those who like progressions, you can create levels with the porgression.
1 2 2 4
2 4 4 8
3 6 6 12
4 8 8 16
5 10 10 20
etc...
Ego, can you shed any light on this system for us? :thumbsup:
GLC
I honestly like methods exploiting the GF :thumbsup:
We may progress just the two steps, until we are behind 8-10 units, a first loss can be recovered next trials, if not we can progress more, and assume the losing streak may end.
Wow...how well did lanky explain that eh?
One of Lankys great systems.
and dont forget the 6 point divisor can be very powerfull used carefully.
Lanky no longer comes on the forums but for those of you interested to know he is ok and still frequently visits the casino.
I generally speak to him once a week,
he is a great guy a good friend and we have always kept in touch,
D1.
Quote from: D1 on Sep 21, 10:18 AM 2012
One of Lankys great systems.
and don't forget the 6 point divisor can be very powerfull used carefully.
Lanky no longer comes on the forums but for those of you interested to know he is ok and still frequently visits the casino.
I generally speak to him once a week,
he is a great guy a good friend and we have always kept in touch,
D1.
I am soooo thankful to hear that D1. Thanks for sharing it with us.
He is such a kind person. It does my heart good to know he's doing well.
Give him our best wishes. :smile:
GLC
Hi GLC
I'll pass that on my friend no problem
D1.
I remember Lanky as a very nice guy and he's famous topics about 6 point divisor plan.
About the method i would say its ok.
I am personally so deep into 50/50 at the moment so i don't go to deep into others methods.
I find out one amazing way that you can apply to sport betting roulette and sic-bo and any other game that offers 1 in 2 and i am testing and testing with great results.
The only reason i have not post it is that i don't know how to explain it.
And Brett Morton's strict MM works out great with the game plan.
@ego
we wait for more news and explaination about brett morton even idf it difficult to explain
hello from the south of france :thumbsup:
Quote from: roulettefan on Sep 22, 06:38 AM 2012
@ego
we wait for more news and explaination about brett morton even idf it difficult to explain
hello from the south of france :thumbsup:
I don't want to steal this topic - but Brett Morton's strict Money management strategy it a gold mine and with combination with a strict Bankroll management you can succeed winning two out of three on regular basis - my opinion.
Quote from: ego on Sep 22, 07:38 AM 2012
I don't want to steal this topic - but Brett Morton's strict Money management strategy it a gold mine and with combination with a strict Bankroll management you can succeed winning two out of three on regular basis - my opinion.
Can you recommend any bet selection Ego or it really does not matter because if you have a gold mine you still need some tools to get it ?
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Sep 22, 07:53 AM 2012
Can you recommend any bet selection Ego or it really does not matter because if you have a gold mine you still need some tools to get it ?
I don't say i have a gold mine - i say i find Brett Morton's Money management being among the best MM i read about - it describe the game plan being a % game and i agree 100%
Can anyone link this money management system for us?
Sam
Discipline is the mother of those excellent money management systems. No deviations allowed.
Best advice get a copy of that book and it all is explained there.
I never spend my time to explain any methods in detail at any forum. Nobody will pay attention anyway..
N.D.
Link ? I doubt that it is readily available..
Quote from: Tamino on Sep 22, 08:13 AM 2012
Discipline is the mother of those excellent money management systems. No deviations allowed.
Best advice get a copy of that book and it all is explained there.
I y never spend my time to explain any methods in detail at any forum. Nobody will pay attention anyway..
So why do you bother at all if you think that nobody will pay any attention? Maybe because its just worthless :D ?
N.D.
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Sep 22, 08:29 AM 2012
So why do you bother at all if you think that nobody will pay any attention? Maybe because its just worthless ? <<<<<< excerpt of qote by Robeenhuut
REPLY:
Did I endorse Brett Morton`s MM system.? Clumsy trick on your part by saying it is no good. Try again.
Quote from: Tamino on Sep 22, 09:02 AM 2012
So why do you bother at all if you think that nobody will pay any attention? Maybe because its just worthless ? <<<<<< excerpt of qote by Robeenhuut
REPLY:
Did I endorse or mention Brett Morton`s MM system.? Clumsy trick on your part by saying it is no good. Try again.
What trick? You just stated that there is no point in posting anything here because nobody will pay any attention. I really dont care what you think.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Sep 22, 08:12 AM 2012
Can anyone link this money management system for us?
Sam
link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=3760.0 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=3760.0)
Thanks, Rob.
I have a tweak toward this, will post it today.
Cheers
Play 18 numbers against 12 numbers.
Play even money position against dozen position.
Not 50/50 or 18/18.
We use the lines to achieve this.
How you might ask, well here we might agree that we disagree.
One line will sleep 95% to 99% of all times.
That means if you use the first three lines as your even money bet, then you face 1 to 2 lines that still are sleeping and a third sleeping line that show at the very end of each sequence.
So in reality so do you face one dozen position when you play your three lines.
So we play against dozen position not to repeat it self several times in a row.
That means they come in this order.
1) Firs you get three lines to show, that is your even money position, as three lines is 18 numbers/ even money position.
2) After that 1 to 2 lines will start to show as being the dozen position, as two lines is 12 numbers/dozen position.
3) And at the very end of the sequence the last sleeping line will show, as one line being 6 numbers.
That being like having conditional probability and advantage/odds in your favour.
4
1
6 Even Money Position
6
6
3 Dozen Position
1
1
5 Dozen Position
1
3 Dozen Position
4
6
1
1
2 The Last Sleeping Line Position
- - -
The bet selection is to bet after the four line shows and betting against dozen position to show three times in a row.
That would result in two loses.
The other way is to bet against a dozen position to show four times in a row.
That would result in three loses.
- - - - - - - - - -
3
1
5 Even Money Position
6 Dozen Position
1 WON
2 Dozen Position
1
4 The Last Sleeping Line Position.
- - - - - - - - - -
4
1
6 Even Money Position
6
6
3 Dozen Position
1 WON
1
5 Dozen Position
1
3 Dozen Position
4
6
1
1
2 The Last Sleeping Line Position
- - - - - - - - - -
2
3
5 Even Money Position
4 Dozen Position
2 WON
6 Dozen Position
4 D
4 D
4 D
4 D
6 D
3
1 The Last Sleeping Line Position.
Now i even test this using streets based upon same methodology.
Should also mention that three or four loses you are out, end of session.
Never chasing ...
Quote from: ego on Apr 14, 12:25 PM 2013
Play 18 numbers against 12 numbers.
Play even money position against dozen position.
Not 50/50 or 18/18.
We use the lines to achieve this.
How you might ask, well here we might agree that we disagree.
One line will sleep 95% to 99% of all times.
That means if you use the first three lines as your even money bet, then you face 1 to 2 lines that still are sleeping and a third sleeping line that show at the very end of each sequence.
So in reality so do you face one dozen position when you play your three lines.
So we play against dozen position not to repeat it self several times in a row.
That means they come in this order.
1) Firs you get three lines to show, that is your even money position, as three lines is 18 numbers/ even money position.
2) After that 1 to 2 lines will start to show as being the dozen position, as two lines is 12 numbers/dozen position.
3) And at the very end of the sequence the last sleeping line will show, as one line being 6 numbers.
That being like having conditional probability and advantage/odds in your favour.
4
1
6 Even Money Position
6
6
3 Dozen Position
1
1
5 Dozen Position
1
3 Dozen Position
4
6
1
1
2 The Last Sleeping Line Position
- - -
The bet selection is to bet after the four line shows and betting against dozen position to show three times in a row.
That would result in two loses.
The other way is to bet against a dozen position to show four times in a row.
That would result in three loses.
- - - - - - - - - -
3
1
5 Even Money Position
6 Dozen Position
1 WON
2 Dozen Position
1
4 The Last Sleeping Line Position.
- - - - - - - - - -
4
1
6 Even Money Position
6
6
3 Dozen Position
1 WON
1
5 Dozen Position
1
3 Dozen Position
4
6
1
1
2 The Last Sleeping Line Position
- - - - - - - - - -
2
3
5 Even Money Position
4 Dozen Position
2 WON
6 Dozen Position
4 D
4 D
4 D
4 D
6 D
3
1 The Last Sleeping Line Position.
Ego, can you take the above examples and put some more flesh on them? Like why is it a dozen position. When and why you bet. Looks interesting, but with a little more explanation and example, it would save a lot of head scratching.
GLC
Ego
Yes I agree with GLC it would be great if u could provide some detailed explanation usuing actual numbers this way
we know we are using the system correctly, thanks.
Cheers
Chris
Quote from: D1 on Sep 21, 10:18 AM 2012
One of Lankys great systems.
and don't forget the 6 point divisor can be very powerfull used carefully.
Lanky no longer comes on the forums but for those of you interested to know he is ok and still frequently visits the casino.
I generally speak to him once a week,
he is a great guy a good friend and we have always kept in touch,
D1.
D1, please let Lanky know I think of him often and he was a great mentor and teacher. I always enjoyed his phone calls. Truly a man of his word.
V/R, Gator
Quote from: Wally Gator on Apr 14, 06:46 PM 2013
D1, please let Lanky know I think of him often and he was a great mentor and teacher. I always enjoyed his phone calls. Truly a man of his word.
V/R, Gator
No problem Wally
I will pass that on for you when I next speak to him later this week,
D1.
While we're waiting for ego to get back to us, I have used the basics of his idea for a simple little system that I played to +150 and never had to go past the 5th level.
I use a simple D'Alembert progression. +1, -1
I track until all 6 lines have hit.
Continue tracking until you have 3 different lines. bet 1 unit on these 3 lines.
As long as you win, just repeat.
As soon as you have a loss, you will now have 4 different lines. (See what to do when a zero hits below) Bet all 4 lines for 1 unit each. If you have 2 wins in a row you will be +1 so re-set and bet on the last 3 different lines.
If you are betting on 4 lines and lose before you win 2 times, add the line that just hit and bet 1 unit on the 5 lines. Bet these 5 lines until you recover everything you lost on the 3 and 4 line bets. Then drop down to the previous level and start betting the appropriate number of units on each of the last 3 different lines that hit.
If you lose while betting on 5 lines, move to the next bet amount and bet on the last 3 different lines that have hit.
Each step of a level is bet at the same unit amount. In other words if you are betting 2 units on the 3 lines and have a loss, you will bet 2 units on the 4 lines. If you have a loss on the 4 lines, you will bet 2 units on the 5 lines.
When zero hits, it's just a loss. Continue betting the same unit size and the same number of lines.
What we are doing is what ego pointed out. We are betting that we will have sleeper(s). We are betting that we will win early on the already hit lines or we will have a run on the 4 lines phase or the 5 lines phase long enough for us to recover our losses. This means the 6th line will be sleeping.
Granted, if we have a stretch of spins with a lot of short sleepers, it will move us down the progression line, but so far long sleepers came around often enough to get my losses recovered and put me back on the up-swing.
It's easy to play. All you have to do is keep track of the lines as they hit. Multiple hits on the same line don't have to be recorded because all we're doing is looking for sleepers and keeping track of which lines have hit at least once. We don't care how often those that are awake hit, other than it means we're winning.
We continue betting on the same awake lines until all 6 lines have finally hit. At that time, we track until we get 3 new different lines to start betting our 3 line bet on.
So far it's working.
GLC
Thanks GLC ;)
I have a question. You say:
Quote from: GLC on Apr 14, 10:07 PM 2013
Each step of a level is bet at the same unit amount. In other words if you are betting 2 units on the 3 lines and have a loss, you will bet 2 units on the 4 lines. If you have a loss on the 4 lines, you will bet 2 units on the 5 lines.
In this case, If you win playing 4 lines, you go back to 3 lines and bet 1 unit on each? or better stay at 2 units on each of the 3 lines...until you are in profit?
Regards.
GLC, I have test it, and I have to say that its better to use a simple D'Alembert progression. +1, -1, as you say, because bets don't go too high O0 ...but reseting when we are in profit...but It can be slo:lyyy...
I forgot to say I don't believe in bet selections. I play with lines 1,2,3...1,2,3,4...1,2,3,4,5...1,2,3...etc...
You're probably right. We know that mathematically there's no such thing as hot or due. It would probably save us a lot of tracking effort if we just played like you are.
I'm not convinced that the 5 lines part of the bet sequence is a plus or a minus. It can get hot and hit 20 times in a row or is can get cold and the 6th line wakes up after only a couple of bets of the 5 lines.
I have been trying this. Bet 3 lines until a loss or you're at a new high. If a loss, bet 4 lines. If a win, you will be still down 1 unit from the 3 line loss but re-set to the 3 line bet anyway. A win on the 3 lines nets us 3 units which will recover the extra unit.
If you lose the 4 line bet, add the 5th line and bet it until you lose or recover all but 3 units, then reset to the 3 line bet.
I've also played the 5 lines bet until a loss. That lets us win as long as the 6th line sleeps. The negative is that we always end with a 5 unit loss.
What do you think?
Quote from: GLC on Apr 15, 10:25 AM 2013
You're probably right. We know that mathematically there's no such thing as hot or due. It would probably save us a lot of tracking effort if we just played like you are.
I'm not convinced that the 5 lines part of the bet sequence is a plus or a minus. It can get hot and hit 20 times in a row or is can get cold and the 6th line wakes up after only a couple of bets of the 5 lines.
I have been trying this. Bet 3 lines until a loss or you're at a new high. If a loss, bet 4 lines. If a win, you will be still down 1 unit from the 3 line loss but re-set to the 3 line bet anyway. A win on the 3 lines nets us 3 units which will recover the extra unit.
If you lose the 4 line bet, add the 5th line and bet it until you lose or recover all but 3 units, then reset to the 3 line bet.
I've also played the 5 lines bet until a loss. That lets us win as long as the 6th line sleeps. The negative is that we always end with a 5 unit loss.
What do you think?
Its almost the same. Why to recover all but 3 units?
If you lost the 5 lines bet, do you bet 3 lines with 2 units?
I have tryed another tipe of progressions like +2,-1 or even +1 if you win 3 lines or WW on 4 lines, but without successfull :'( . The big hole is there.
It seems The Big hole is every where.
try it in cycles
ie
cycle of 10 spins, just bet the last 3 lines
if at the end of 10 spins you are in minus just +1, if in plus or even at any point - back to 1 unit
simple
you wont get a large DD this way - but you wont win big either, but small and steady wins the race ;D
Quote from: soggett on Apr 16, 03:33 AM 2013
try it in cycles
ie
cycle of 10 spins, just bet the last 3 lines
if at the end of 10 spins you are in minus just +1, if in plus or even at any point - back to 1 unit
simple
you won't get a large DD this way - but you won't win big either, but small and steady wins the race ;D
I like this type of betting. Bread winner, gr8players progression, Project 202.
The Project 202 idea is one of the safest ways to play other than flat betting. I have never lost in the long run betting a cycle of 38 spins on double zero wheel.
I didn't use his rules for increasing bet size. I use the word "didn't" because I don't play this method anymore because I don't have the time.
I was testing it to see if it would win 1 unit per day. You know the age old challenge.
I won at least 1 unit for 122 sessions playing the nozero wheel on Betvoyager demo mode a couple of years ago. I didn't do it every day. Usually I would play a few sessions per day.
I'll post exactly how I played after I get back from dinner out with the family.
GLC
I use a Butch the gambler's type progression.
Any time we reach a new profit, reset.
Bet 1 unit for the 38 spin cycle if it (the cycle) starts at -5 or more.
Bet 2 units for the 38 spin cycle if it starts at -15 or more.
Bet 3 units for the . . . . -30 or more.
Bet 4 . . . -50 or more.
Bet 5 . . . -75 or more.
Bet 6 . . . -105 or more.
Etc...
The most I have been down and came back to win 1 unit is -72 units betting 5 unit bets.
On my last attack, I stopped testing when I was down -132 units and betting 7 units per bet. I
quit testing before I recovered because I knew it was going to be a major grind. It can go up
and down for an unknown number of times.
I think it would be safe enough if you only went up on the bets and never drop back down to lower units until you reach a new profit. This, of course, will require a larger bank, but I think it would still be safe enough.
The theory behind Project 202 is that even though we lose more bets than we win, if we can stay
in the game long enough, we will encounter a large enough luster of wins, which will be at larger
bet sizes, to recover the losses which occurred at small bets.
I think you would be pretty safe with a bank of 200 units. At $5 units, that's a $1,000 bank.
I like the FTL bet selection method with switches to follow the doublets when I get RBBRR etc...
Back to FTL on the first loss.
Can you lose your 200 bank? Not likely, but possible. I think if you play by only increasing
your bet size until you fully recover, you're more likely to lose you bank, but you can also win
units at a much faster pace. It might be worth the risk.
You decide.
As always,
GLC
I know this topic has been dead for a while but I want to post a revision that Lanky made to his even chance bet selection method. Even though this is geared toward baccarat, I have found it to apply equally well to roulette.
Now to what I see from these spins as a workable System.
You all have to remember that I know nothing anyway.
So if this does not work & is just a fluke.
Don’t be too hard on poor old Lanky….Ok ???
It was not & is not My intention to make the beginning or start of any System that is too hard for all or any of the Family here at the Forum.
If it can’t be easily seen by us all then I don’t want to do it.
However if its easy to do so that a novice like Me at Baccarat can do it then I would have started something worthwhile. That You the experts at this game can finish.
I am under no illusions that this is the finished thing. I merely put it here so that We as a whole can improve it so that in the end it will work if that’s possible.
And if we can get a few extra Dollars from it then I have done My job.
Ok here We go Gang
What I see here is a continuation of trends that I saw years ago while I was playing & recording the even bets at Roulette.
What We are going to do is take advantage of what I call isolated events.
I First noticed this at roulette & I built my even money plan around it.
Which is slightly different to this but is based on the same principles.
What we are looking for is an isolation of either Banker or Player.
What is an isolation ??
Well quite simply its when We see 1 of Banker or Player followed by another 1 or
2.of the same thing.
Like BBB or more B’s<<would alert Us to see if an isolation occurs after this happens.
Say it went BBB then P then B then P then B
So its gone like this
B
B
B << ALERT THAT AN ISOLATION COULD BE COMING
P
B <<FROM HERE YOU CAN SEE THE P ABOVE WAS ISOLATED 1 TIME
P
B<<FROM HERE YOU CAN SEE THAT P ABOVE WAS ISOLATED AGAIN
If it did happen then we bet on Banker until 2 player hands beat us.
It could also do it this way
B
B
B<<ALERT
(P)
B<<P ISOLATED 1 TIME
(P)
(P)
B<<P ISOLATED AGAIN ONLY IT CAME UP TWICE. As long as it is not P x 3
Now You have to pay attention here.
It can’t go BBBPPB<<and still be called an isolation.
Because that’s a 1st up double.
Not a one off or a single isolation.
We need the 1st isolation to be 1 of a Banker or 1 of a Player
Why…??
Well to tell you the truth I don’t really know why.
But I will have a guess.
I found the exact same thing happens at Roulette a heck of a lot.
Also on the other betting games such as cards dice wheels etc have a look next time & you will see what I mean.
It probably happens with fiddle Sticks as well …..LoL
I think it could be that it’s a pattern that makes things trend it could be that this pattern has been there all the time & we have not seen it.
It could be that simple.
Its like Victor says about His patterns being there since Roulette started & we just
have not seen them.
While we are on Victor I did use His W-L notations when I was finding this also there will be times that You will have to wait in virtual while the patterns form.
So once again Victor deserves some of the credit here as well.
Ok the rules first.
1:When We have seen 3 or more in a Row of either Banker or Player.
That is the ALERT to see if an isolation of 1 only follows it.
2: We then have to see if an isolation comes after that.
3:If it does then We have to wait for another single or double isolation to follow it.
If it does then We start betting on whatever 3 or more trend that came before the two Isolations followed.
Until we get beat twice (2) in a Row.(I tried to limit Your losses here)
How You bet them is a personnel thing I guess that is best left to You the Player.
I would probably bet 1 & if we lose then 2.(this would take care of any LW streaks that We would get.)
If we lose again I would put it into the 6 point divisor plan & bet from there until we are even or in profit & then go back to the 1 + 2 progression.
However for this example lets just flat bet it.
Lets try it & see what happens OK My friends.
1st Session
P-
P-
B-
B-
B- <<alert B has come 3 times
B-
P- <<P is isolated once
B-
P-
P-<< p is isolated twice
B- << bet B on next spin
B-W
B-W
B-W
B-W
P-L
B-W
P-L
B-W
P-L
B-W
B-W
B-W
P-L
B-W
P-L
B-W
B-W
P-L
P-L<<STOP BETTING We Lost Twice.
P-<<ALERT P X 3 TIMES
B-<<B isolated once
P-
B-<<B isolated twice
P-<<Bet P on next bet
P-W
P-W
P-W
P-W
P-W
P-W
B-L
B-L<<STOP BETTING
P-
B-
B-
B-<<ALERT
P-<<P ISOLATED ONCE
B-
B-
B-
P-<<IS ISOLATED TWICE
B-<<BET B ON NEXT BET
B-W
B-W
P-L
B-W
P-L
P-L
P-WE WILL STOP HERE AS WE WOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT WE WERE GOING TO END THE 1ST SESSION ANYWAY.
B-
B-
P-
P-
There was 33 bets for 21 Wins & 12 Losses On the 1st Session
12 win bets were on Banker so there is a 0.6 unit deduction
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2nd Session
P-
P-
P-<<ALERT
B-
B-
B-<<ALERT
P-
P-< See what I mean here this is a 1st up double NOT an Isolation
B-
P-
P-
B-
P-
B-
B-
P-
P-
B-
P-
B-
P-
P-
P-<<ALERT
P-
B-<B isolated once
P-
B-<B isolated twice
P-< bet P on next bet
P-W
P-W
P-W
B-L
P-W
P-W
B-L
P-W
P-W
P-W
P-W
P-W
P-W
P-W
B-L
B-L<<Stop betting here
P-
B-
B-
P-
P-
B-
P-
P-
B-
B-
B-<<Alert
B-
B-
B-
P-
P-
P-<<Alert
B-
B-
P-
P-
P-<Alert
B-
There was 16 bets for 12 Wins & 4 Losses on the 2nd Session
And all win bets were on Player so there is no deduction
………………………………………………………………………………………
Overall on both Sessions there were 49 bets
For 33 Wins & 16 Losses.
Will it work again ?? I don’t know & I can’t guarantee anything into the future.
Don’t get Me wrong I would love it to work for ever. Who would not want that.??
All I know is that I have done My best for You all .
Your Friend
Lanky
Hi George . . .
The "isolation" that Lanky is referring to is what I call a Single. When you have 2 or more consecutive Singles you then have a Series.
BBRB: The R is a single as it is isolated between 2 B's.
BRRRB: The R is a series of 3 R's.
I have studied the Singles vs Series and have a Tracker which utilizes the Singles vs Series just as Lanky has outlined.
The Tracker is attached for your use to help test this method.
You can input any Profit Target or Stop Loss that you wish to test.
Hope this helps.
Cheers
Nick
Quote from: Nickmsi on Nov 29, 12:39 PM 2013
Hi George . . .
The "isolation" that Lanky is referring to is what I call a Single. When you have 2 or more consecutive Singles you then have a Series.
BBRB: The R is a single as it is isolated between 2 B's.
BRRRB: The R is a series of 3 R's.
I have studied the Singles vs Series and have a Tracker which utilizes the Singles vs Series just as Lanky has outlined.
The Tracker is attached for your use to help test this method.
You can input any Profit Target or stop-loss that you wish to test.
Hope this helps.
Cheers
Nick
Thanks for all your long hours of coding to make things easier on the forum.
I know what you mean. It is a little confusing when Lanky calls the double show of a color an isolation also. If you read his explanation carefully you will realize that he's saying that you must have a true single isolation after a trigger (triple) and then you can have a double isolation or a single isolation as the true signal to start betting. If the double isolation occurs before the single isolation, it voids the trigger and we have to wait for another triple.
You and I both know that there's no rational reason why this should work, but in my playing of this system recently, I have been having very good luck using just the 1-2 progression. I would have won on a flat bet also, but in my mind, 1-2 is just a two-step flat bet of 3 units.
If you remember, I posted a topic where I noted that all progressions are flat bets. I take that back. The divisors and methods like it are so complicated that they can be called true progressions
GLC
I also been looking into this area of the game.
Nice topic.
What kind of staking plan would some one recommend.
Quote from: ego on Dec 01, 06:59 AM 2013
I also been looking into this area of the game.
Nice topic.
What kind of staking plan would some one recommend.
I've been using the 1 - 2 two-step, capped martingale. A 1-2-2 three step progression should be tame enough also. Proofreaders has suggested a 1-1-1-2 for four step progression in the past, if my memory doesn't fail me. Any of these should keep us from dropping in the hole too quickly on bad runs.
I like the 1-2 since it coincides with the "stop betting" after 2 losses rule.
GLC