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Title: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 22, 03:29 PM 2012
---Try this one.....no large DD and surely to get your
    aim.Tested not many sessions but all won 200 chips
    in about 60 spins......advantage of this is couse mostly
    one sector long sleep.Good luck.
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: amk on Sep 22, 03:49 PM 2012
Is this a +1 -1 bet or just a flat bet Flat for 5 spins?


We wait until all 4 sectors have landed once. Then we start betting on the next sector which is hit after our trigger. In your example, sector 1. We bet sector 1 for 5 spins, then sector 2, 3 and 4, then session ends.

Or after 5 bets/spins we bet on the last sector which landed again for 5 spins etc.

Am I seeing it a little Flat?
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 22, 03:53 PM 2012
Quote from: amk on Sep 22, 03:49 PM 2012
Is this a +1 -1 bet or just a flat bet Flat for 5 spins?


We wait until all 4 sectors have landed once. Then we start betting on the next sector which is hit after our trigger. In your example, sector 1. We bet sector 1 for 5 spins, then sector 2, 3 and 4, then session ends.


Am I seeing it a little Flat?


yes 1-on a win 1+ on a los
you just follow last in cycle od 5...simple,each win is 9 chips
each lose is 3 chips....betting 2 on a line 1 on a street.
we don't bet each sector for 5 spins but 5 previous sectors spun,
we just bet on same,follow the wheel.
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: Face on Sep 22, 04:28 PM 2012
Hi!
You can write Roulette Xtreme, dgt file?  ;)
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 22, 04:31 PM 2012
here is excel with clearer explanation.
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 22, 05:29 PM 2012
And here is yesterday 2/and 1 already posted=3/ wiesbaden sessions over 300 spins
which easily won...and will post till end of month all sessions over 300 spins just to
show you how easy and simple this winning method works...could take a bet that no session will lose and that will never even reach 1000 ch.required.

Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: Turner on Sep 22, 06:08 PM 2012
Flat...I respect you well...and I am excited to try this out but I really havnt got a clue whats going on.
Unfortunatly for me.....your usual answer is something like.."look at the xl sheet...its all in there"

I tried that. Im confused.
I get the trigger...but only because AMK explained it.

Heres an idea. Dont explain just for little old me. If a few more post up and say they are also confused...then it needs explaining.

I cant even see if its splits...straight up...lines???
Cheers mate
Turner
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: Midnight Player on Sep 22, 07:01 PM 2012
Thank you F_LAT_INO, nice and simple, easy to track and play!

My last session at B&M casino would have netted 34 x 9 units = 306 units in 84 spins, 9 spins being the trigger, so played for 75 spins
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 22, 08:23 PM 2012
Quote from: turnerfeck on Sep 22, 06:08 PM 2012
Flat...I respect you well...and I am excited to try this out but I really havnt got a clue what's going on.
Unfortunatly for me.....your usual answer is something like.."look at the xl sheet...its all in there"

I tried that. I'm confused.
I get the trigger...but only because AMK explained it.

Heres an idea. don't explain just for little old me. If a few more post up and say they are also confused...then it needs explaining.

I can't even see if its splits...straight up...lines???
Cheers mate
Turner


Turner mate,


4-table sectors


1--from numb.1 to 9
2----------------10 to 18
3----------------19 to 27
4----------------28 to 36


at start wait until all 4 sectors hit;
34--4
12--12
2---1
22--3...now next 5 spins are virtuals


16             2
34                       4
24                                 3
19                                          3
6                                                     1......and now we start betting on sector 2.....2chips on line
                                                               10-15 and 1 chip on street 16-18...win 9 or lose 3...3/1 bet
26             3l
31                      4w
7                                   1l
22                                         3w
33                                                    3l--cycle of 5 spins ends and we won 2x3 un,or 18 chips and lost
                                                             3x1 unit which is 9 chips...therefore in this cycle we are up
                                                             3 un/9 chips......1 un = 3 chips/----now we continue same
3               1l       
6                        1l
11                                 2l
14                                          2
20                                                    3w....won 3 un,lost 4 un.....1un.minus this cycle,next rising to 2






I bet you got it now
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: Twisteruk on Sep 22, 09:40 PM 2012
Couple of questions Flat that I dont get


Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Sep 22, 08:23 PM 2012

Turner mate,


4-table sectors


1--from numb.1 to 9
2----------------10 to 18
3----------------19 to 27
4----------------28 to 36 ok got it


at start wait until all 4 sectors hit;
34--4
12--12
2---1
22--3...now next 5 spins are virtuals ok got it


16             2
34                       4
24                                 3
19                                          3
6                                                     1......and now we start betting on sector 2...Why ?..2chips on line
                                                               10-15 and 1 chip on street 16-18...win 9 or lose 3...3/1 bet
26             3l
31                      4w what does 4w mean in relation to number 31
7                                   1l
22                                         3w same question to number 22
33                                                    3l--cycle of 5 spins ends and we won 2x3 un(how?),or 18 chips and lost
                                                             3x1 unit which is 9 chips...therefore in this cycle we are up
                                                             3 un/9 chips......1 un = 3 chips/----now we continue same
3               1l       
6                        1l
11                                 2l
14                                          2
20                                                    3w....won 3 un,lost 4 un.....1un.minus this cycle,next rising to 2 (huh?)






I bet you got it now I dont, sorry Flat for bein dim
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: dennisbelle on Sep 22, 10:21 PM 2012
I just ran the first 144 spins in the Zumma  roulette tester book and ended at +198 units.  At one point I was in the hole 459 units but it came back.  These are double zero wheel spins.
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: Wally Gator on Sep 22, 11:27 PM 2012
Very nice Mr. F_LAT.  Very nice, indeed......
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: Stepkevh on Sep 23, 12:01 AM 2012
Twister its like this ....


Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Sep 22, 08:23 PM 2012

Turner mate,


4-table sectors


1--from numb.1 to 9
2----------------10 to 18
3----------------19 to 27
4----------------28 to 36


at start wait until all 4 sectors hit;
34--4
12--12
2---1
22--3...now next 5 spins are virtuals


16             2
34                       4
24                                 3
19                                          3
6                                                     1......and now we start betting on sector 2.....2chips on line
                                                               10-15 and 1 chip on street 16-18...win 9 or lose 3...3/1 bet

!Then you start betting for the above pattern of sectors
so first s2 then s4 then s3 , s3 again and last s1!


26             3l
31                      4w                                                                                                                               7                                   1l
22                                         3w                                                                                                            33                                                    3l--cycle of 5 spins ends and we won 2x3 un,or 18 chips and lost
                                                             3x1 unit which is 9 chips...therefore in this cycle we are up
                                                             3 un/9 chips......1 un = 3 chips/----now we continue same

                                                            ! the numbers like 4 are the sectors were the spun nr
                                                               belongs to and w is win as l is for lose
                                                              BUT Flat made a mistake nr 33 is sector 4 not 3 :) !
3               1l       
6                        1l
11                                 2l
14                                          2
20                                                    3w....won 3 un,lost 4 un.....1un.minus this cycle,next rising to 2

                                                              ! here again bet for the above 5 sectores 3 4 1 3 4 yes 4
                                                                because of the little mistake, so the last one 3w
                                                                is in fact 4l !

!If after the 5 spins our total balance is up were going 1 unit down, if were down we rise 1 unit for next 5 bets and evalute again!



I bet you got it now

I hope you understand it now :)
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: KoolKat on Sep 23, 03:52 AM 2012
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Sep 22, 03:53 PM 2012

yes 1-on a win 1+ on a los
you just follow last in cycle od 5...simple,each win is 9 chips
each lose is 3 chips....betting 2 on a line 1 on a street.
we don't bet each sector for 5 spins but 5 previous sectors spun,
we just bet on same,follow the wheel.

18   2                              
7   1                              
18   2                              
13   2                              
32   3                              
18   2                              
1   1                              
4   1                              
33   3                              
6   1                              
8   1                              
36   4   TRIGGER                           
8   1      1                        
8   1            1                  
27   3                  3            
34   3                        3      
8   1      L                        1
17   2      2      L                  
17   2            2      L            
17   2                  2      L      
5   1                        1      L
29   3      W                        3
10   2      2      L                  
8   1            1      W            
16   2                  2      L      
14   2                        2      L
15   2      L                        2
32   4      4      W                  
8   1            1      L            
30   4                  4      L      
30   4                        3      L
1   1      L                        1
15   2      2      L                  
28   4            4      L            
11   2                  2      L      
30   4                        4      L
10   2      L                        2
35   4      4      L                  
8   1            1      L            
19   3                  3      L      
8   1                        1      L
7   1      L                        1
2   1      1      W                  
8   1            1      L            
9   1                  1      L      
28   4                        3      L
29   4      L                        3
27   3      3      L                  
33   4            4      L            
18   2                  2      L      
2   1                        1      W
24   3      L                        3
9   1      1      W                  
31   4            4      W            
16   2                  2      L      
25   3                        3      W
25   3                              3

Flat thank you for your methods. Can i ask how many losses have you had in a row. The above was played today Vitual and you will see there were 14 losses in a row going by 1+ on a loss you would have to have 360 units to place the 15th bet? Can you let me know if i am doing this correctly? Koolkat
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: Stepkevh on Sep 23, 04:05 AM 2012
Koolkat,

i' ve read somewhere in flats explanation that you go up or down 1u after your 5 bets.

you start at 1u,
if after the next 5 bets the balance is lower you rise 1u
if the balance is higher you stay at 1 u or go 1 down .
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: Robeenhuut on Sep 23, 04:25 AM 2012
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Sep 22, 03:29 PM 2012
---Try this one.....no large DD and surely to get your
    aim.Tested not many sessions but all won 200 chips
    in about 60 spins......advantage of this is couse mostly
    one sector long sleep.Good luck.

I think there is a mistake in your Excel files when calculating a profit.
You should multiply your won unit number by 3 if your base bet is 2u on DS and 1u on Street.
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: KoolKat on Sep 23, 04:28 AM 2012
Quote from: Stepkevh on Sep 23, 04:05 AM 2012
Koolkat,

i' ve read somewhere in flats explanation that you go up or down 1u after your 5 bets.

you start at 1u,
if after the next 5 bets the balance is lower you rise 1u
if the balance is higher you stay at 1 u or go 1 down .

Thanks Stepkevh missed that bit. Makes more sense now. Koolkat
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: Twisteruk on Sep 23, 05:39 AM 2012
Quote from: Stepkevh on Sep 23, 12:01 AM 2012
Twister its like this ....


I hope you understand it now :)

I do and I appreciate you takin time out to explain it to me, thank you  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 23, 06:48 AM 2012
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Sep 23, 04:25 AM 2012
I think there is a mistake in your Excel files when calculating a profit.
You should multiply your won unit number by 3 if your base bet is 2u on DS and 1u on Street.


that's what i'm doing and have stated it is 3/1 bet...win 9 or lose 3
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 23, 06:52 AM 2012
Quote from: KoolKat on Sep 23, 03:52 AM 2012
18   2                             
7   1                             
18   2                             
13   2                             
32   3                             
18   2                             
1   1                             
4   1                             
33   3                             
6   1                             
8   1                             
36   4   TRIGGER                           
8   1      1                       
8   1            1                 
27   3                  3           
34   3                        3     
8   1      L                        1
17   2      2      L                 
17   2            2      L           
17   2                  2      L     
5   1                        1      L
29   3      W                        3
10   2      2      L                 
8   1            1      W           
16   2                  2      L     
14   2                        2      L
15   2      L                        2
32   4      4      W                 
8   1            1      L           
30   4                  4      L     
30   4                        3      L
1   1      L                        1
15   2      2      L                 
28   4            4      L           
11   2                  2      L     
30   4                        4      L
10   2      L                        2
35   4      4      L                 
8   1            1      L           
19   3                  3      L     
8   1                        1      L
7   1      L                        1
2   1      1      W                 
8   1            1      L           
9   1                  1      L     
28   4                        3      L
29   4      L                        3
27   3      3      L                 
33   4            4      L           
18   2                  2      L     
2   1                        1      W
24   3      L                        3
9   1      1      W                 
31   4            4      W           
16   2                  2      L     
25   3                        3      W
25   3                              3

Flat thank you for your methods. Can i ask how many losses have you had in a row. The above was played today Vitual and you will see there were 14 losses in a row going by 1+ on a loss you would have to have 360 units to place the 15th bet? Can you let me know if i am doing this correctly? Koolkat


no you are not...rising 1 unit after each cycle of 5 spins
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 23, 06:53 AM 2012
yes made a mistake 33 is sector 4
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: Turner on Sep 23, 07:08 AM 2012
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Sep 23, 06:53 AM 2012
yes made a mistake 33 is sector 4

Flat....many thanks for explaining further...its appreciated.

Will look tonight...got a busy day... Manchester City vs. Arsenal (biting fingernails :thumbsup:)
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: Midnight Player on Sep 23, 07:15 AM 2012
I believe the winning units to be multiples of 3...

Eg. One sector of 3 units bet (1 on street and 2 on double street) for five spins = 15 units placed on table, if there are two winning spins out of 5 spins then 12 units are returned for each win = 12 x 2 = 24 units minus the 15 placed down  = 24 - 15 = 9 units so 9 units won for 3 units reflected in the spread sheet...

Thanks again for a great method F_LAT_INO

Just checked another of my old spin sheets and it shows a win of 159 units  :twisted:
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 23, 07:55 AM 2012
Quote from: turnerfeck on Sep 23, 07:08 AM 2012
Flat....many thanks for explaining further...its appreciated.

Will look tonight...got a busy day... Manchester City vs. Arsenal (biting fingernails :thumbsup: )


Me too...handicap on MC here,meaning victory MC by a goal diff.
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: soggett on Sep 23, 08:42 AM 2012
great system Flat, thanks so much
but like Robeenhuut said it should be multiplied by 3, not 9
just had a quick test, it went down -423 at one point and ended +177 in about 160 spins
so far very nice, ty again :)
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: Midnight Player on Sep 23, 09:07 AM 2012
Hi F_LAT any recommendation as to Stop loss limit...
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: Twisteruk on Sep 23, 09:33 AM 2012
Quote from: turnerfeck on Sep 23, 07:08 AM 2012
Flat....many thanks for explaining further...its appreciated.

Will look tonight...got a busy day... Manchester City vs. Arsenal (biting fingernails :thumbsup: )

Who you supportin ??
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 23, 10:46 AM 2012
And here yesterday 3 Wiesbaden sessions won easily.
As you can see in 2 of the sessions only one 5 spins
cycle was enough to reach our required aim....and that's
what our method is relaying on mostly plus sleeping of
any of the sectors.


You will also notice while reducing sometimes it is more
then 1.....you must to learn doing it by head,depends on
present situation,stage of session and some other factors
that will come in time.
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: Bettor 27 on Sep 23, 10:57 AM 2012
Thanks F_LAT_INO

Do you play this method on daily basis?

Best regards

B27
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: KoolKat on Sep 23, 11:04 AM 2012
no you are not...rising 1 unit after each cycle of 5 spins
Flat can you have a quick look at my session below, am i playing it correctly now? This is live dealer not compressed air/airball. Many Thanks K

36   4                              
33   4                              
17   2                              
27   3                              
22   3                              
12   2                              
26   3                              
7   1                              
                                 
10      2                           
18         2                        
11            2                     
6               1                  
33                  4               
20      3                     -3      
26         3                  -3      
32            4               -3      
21               3            -3      
0                  0         -3      
15      2                     -6      
36         4                  -6      -27
1            1               -6      -33
1               1            -6      -39
26                  3         NB      
29      4                     -6      -45
11         2                  -9      -54
35            4               -9      -63
27               3            -9      -72
0                  0         -9      -81
14      2                     -9      -90
4         1                  -12      -102
28            4               36      -66
2               1            -12      -78
11                  2         NB      -78
35      4                     -12      -90
20         3                  -12      -102
21            3               -12      -114
31               4            -15      -129
9                  1         -15      -111
16      2                     -15      -159
24         3                  45      -114
32            4               -15      -129
29               3            -15      -144
33                  4         -15      -159
35      4                     -15      -174
19         3                  45      -129
16            2               -15      -144
35               4            -15      -159
8                  1         -15      -174
33      4                     45      -129
3         1                  -15      -144
26            3               -15      -159
36               4            45      -114
3                  1         45      -69
18      2                     -15      -84
15         2                  -15      -99
33            4               -15      -114
6               1            -15      -129
35                  3         -15      -144
33      4                     -18      -162
13         2                  54      -105
11            2               -18      -120
34               4            -18      -144
13                  2         -18      -162
25      3                     -18      -180
32         4                  -18      -198
31            4               -21      -219
29               4            63      -156
15                  2         63      -93
9      1                     -21      -114
15         2                  -21      -135
25            3               -21      -156
32               4            63      -93
10                  1         -21      -114
1      1                     63      -51
22         3                  -21      -72
13            2               -21      -93
17               2            -21      -114
24                  3         -21      -135
9      1                     63      -72
16         2                  -21      -93
10            2               63      -30
26               3            -21      -51
3                  1         -21      -72
9      1                     63      -9
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 23, 11:05 AM 2012
Quote from: Bettor 27 on Sep 23, 10:57 AM 2012
Thanks F_LAT_INO

Do you play this method on daily basis?

Best regards

B27


--No mate,just invented and it is under testing time.
  We shall see but as things stand the merrit is there.
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 23, 11:11 AM 2012
Can't follow it but if you could do it in excel it would be much easier.
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: KoolKat on Sep 23, 11:19 AM 2012
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Sep 23, 11:11 AM 2012
Can't follow it but if you could do it in excel it would be much easier.

Here you go Flat Many Thanks K
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 23, 11:31 AM 2012
5 un.plus...couse I didn't reduce by one on some occasions,
but really very hard session without hiting 3 in no cycle...
and that is what we are after here...3 hits or more in 1 cycle.
try some more
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: soggett on Sep 23, 11:54 AM 2012
Flat I thnik you are calculating wrong
shouldn't the wins be multiplied by 3 and not 9?
thats whats bugging me, can you please check
ty
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: dennisbelle on Sep 23, 12:06 PM 2012
I tested another 112 spins in the Zumma double zero roulette tester book and ended at +216 units with no draw down.  Very nice easy session.
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 23, 12:11 PM 2012
Quote from: soggett on Sep 23, 11:54 AM 2012
Flat I thnik you are calculating wrong
shouldn't the wins be multiplied by 3 and not 9?
that's what's bugging me, can you please check
ty


show me where...I do by 3....but if betting 3 on that spin would be 9 then.
Pokaži
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: soggett on Sep 23, 12:25 PM 2012
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Sep 23, 12:11 PM 2012

show me where...I do by 3....but if betting 3 on that spin would be 9 then.
Pokaži
ok
when you have 2 wins and 3 losses in one row you write +3
then you multipliy it by 9 and you have +27 units profit, correct?
so W W L L L is +3 and multiplied by 9 is 27
if we do it by betting 1 unit per street we get
+9  +9  -3  -3  -3  which is 9 and not 27
cause it should be multiplied by 3
am I right or am I wrong? I really don't get that
It's bugging me
Or is it that you bet 3 units per street so you multiply by 9 at the end?
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 23, 12:33 PM 2012
Quote from: soggett on Sep 23, 12:25 PM 2012
ok
when you have 2 wins and 3 losses in one row you write +3
then you multipliy it by 9 and you have +27 units profit, correct?
so W W L L L is +3 and multiplied by 9 is 27
if we do it by betting 1 unit per street we get
+9  +9  -3  -3  -3  which is 9 and not 27
cause it should be multiplied by 3
am I right or am I wrong? I really don't get that
It's bugging me
Or is it that you bet 3 units per street so you multiply by 9 at the end?


wwlll........9+9+3-3-3---------9+which is 3 units.......1 un= 2 on line 1 on street...get it ???
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 23, 12:37 PM 2012
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Sep 23, 12:33 PM 2012

wwlll........9+9+3-3-3---------9+which is 3 units.......1 un= 2 on line 1 on street...get it ???
in other words if we have at the end w= 23 x 9/as those are winnings of 9/which would be 207 ch.+
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: KoolKat on Sep 23, 12:56 PM 2012
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Sep 23, 11:31 AM 2012
5 un.plus...couse I didn't reduce by one on some occasions,
but really very hard session without hiting 3 in no cycle...
and that is what we are after here...3 hits or more in 1 cycle.
try some more
Flat the attached session is from Compressed air table. Don't seem to be having much luck, is it something i am doing wrong? Thanks Koolkat
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: soggett on Sep 23, 01:13 PM 2012
Ok
I get that 1 unit is 3 chips
so we have either -1 on a loss or +3 on a win
but then we need to mulitply it by 3 ( not 9 ) cause 1 unit is 3 chips ( not 9 ) to get our net?
What I dont understand is that at the end you multiply everything by 9 - that is the part I dont get
Am I the only one here that doesn't get that? If so I need to sleep it off maybe? :)
come back refreshed and take another look
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 23, 01:20 PM 2012
Quote from: soggett on Sep 23, 01:13 PM 2012
Ok
I get that 1 unit is 3 chips
so we have either -1 on a loss or +3 on a win
but then we need to mulitply it by 3 ( not 9 ) cause 1 unit is 3 chips ( not 9 ) to get our net?
What I don't understand is that at the end you multiply everything by 9 - that is the part I don't get
Am I the only one here that doesn't get that? If so I need to sleep it off maybe? :)
come back refreshed and take another look


I think that you are quite right/how come nobody else noticed this/--which by the way shows me
that my old corroded brain should go for reperation....LOL....Thanks Sogget and oncoming sessions
will be counted like that.......even thought will do some more recheckings...after soccer.
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: Wally Gator on Sep 23, 01:20 PM 2012
@KoolKat,


Here's your spreadsheet.  You need to play more than 100 spins in this case.  High was +9, low was -201, highest bet was 7 units.


Hope it helps.
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: soggett on Sep 23, 01:26 PM 2012
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Sep 23, 01:20 PM 2012

I think that you are quite right/how come nobody else noticed this/--which by the way shows me
that my old corroded brain should go for reperation....LoL....Thanks Sogget and oncoming sessions
will be counted like that.......even thought will do some more recheckings...after soccer.

Ok then, I thought I was nuts  ;D
Don't beat yourself up, it happens to the best of us ( It just did to the very best of us  ;)  )
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: Wally Gator on Sep 23, 01:28 PM 2012
Quote from: soggett on Sep 23, 01:13 PM 2012
Ok
I get that 1 unit is 3 chips
so we have either -1 on a loss or +3 on a win
but then we need to mulitply it by 3 ( not 9 ) cause 1 unit is 3 chips ( not 9 ) to get our net?
What I don't understand is that at the end you multiply everything by 9 - that is the part I don't get
Am I the only one here that doesn't get that? If so I need to sleep it off maybe? :)
come back refreshed and take another look


It's minus 3 on a loss and plus 9 on a win.  If you have 1 chip on street and 2 chips on a line and you lose, you're down 3 chips.  If you win on a street you won 12 chips (1x12) minus the 3 chips on the table for a net of 9.  If you win on a line you won 12 chips (2x6) minus the 3 chips on the table for a net of 9.


What am I missing here???

Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 23, 01:34 PM 2012
In school I was always bad in maths....maybe you can explain it throughouly mr.Sogget.
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: KoolKat on Sep 23, 01:38 PM 2012
Quote from: Wally Gator on Sep 23, 01:20 PM 2012
@KoolKat,


Here's your spreadsheet.  You need to play more than 100 spins in this case.  High was +9, low was -201, highest bet was 7 units.


Hope it helps.

@Wally Gator
Many Thanks Wally Gator,nice spreadsheet by the way. I think I have done enough testing to know this is not for me  :-[
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: Roughy on Sep 23, 01:57 PM 2012
Working well for me so far. Haven't kept a note of the actual numbers but up 60+ units so far, approx 100 spins, biggest bet to date is 3 units (i.e. 6 on line, 3 on street), no drawdown as I won first 3 bets which got me off to a good start.

Nice going as usual Flat  :thumbsup:

Cheers
Roughy
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: KoolKat on Sep 23, 01:59 PM 2012
Quote from: Roughy on Sep 23, 01:57 PM 2012
Working well for me so far. Haven't kept a note of the actual numbers but up 60+ units so far, approx 100 spins, biggest bet to date is 3 units (i.e. 6 on line, 3 on street), no drawdown as I won first 3 bets which got me off to a good start.

Nice going as usual Flat  :thumbsup:

Cheers
Roughy

Hi Roughy are you do this online on B&M? cheers
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 23, 02:03 PM 2012
Quote from: Roughy on Sep 23, 01:57 PM 2012
Working well for me so far. Haven't kept a note of the actual numbers but up 60+ units so far, approx 100 spins, biggest bet to date is 3 units (i.e. 6 on line, 3 on street), no drawdown as I won first 3 bets which got me off to a good start.

Nice going as usual Flat  :thumbsup:

Cheers
Roughy


-I will keep testing this every day couple Wiesbaden sessions,req. win aim 100 and see
when it will lose req.BR of 333 un. or 1000 chips.We shall see the score at first lose.
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: Roughy on Sep 23, 02:05 PM 2012
Hi KoolKat

I play online but live dealers only. DublinBet, PaddyPower and the dreaded WH but just using free money I've been given from them for testing at the moment.

Cheers
Roughy
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: soggett on Sep 23, 03:40 PM 2012
Quote from: Wally Gator on Sep 23, 01:28 PM 2012

It's minus 3 on a loss and plus 9 on a win.  If you have 1 chip on street and 2 chips on a line and you lose, you're down 3 chips.  If you win on a street you won 12 chips (1x12) minus the 3 chips on the table for a net of 9.  If you win on a line you won 12 chips (2x6) minus the 3 chips on the table for a net of 9.


What am I missing here???
you are not missing anythnig
it's a 3 street bet to simplify a bit
so yes, on a L it's -3 and on a W it's +9
very simple indeed
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: vundarosa on Sep 24, 12:05 AM 2012
Quote from: Turner on Sep 23, 07:08 AM 2012
Flat....many thanks for explaining further...its appreciated.

Will look tonight...got a busy day... Manchester City vs. Arsenal (biting fingernails :thumbsup: )

-----
booooohhh :-)

vundarosa
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 24, 02:46 AM 2012
Here 2 last night Wiesbaden sessions Soggets way/which is correct btw/


1 st session reached its req.aim in 199th.spin
Largest DD=111 un.=333 chips
won 36 un.= 108 chips.


2nd.session reached its req.aim in 207th.spin
Largest DD=43 un.=129 chips.
won=39 un.=117 chips.


Eight session in the row successful.
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: F_LAT_INO on Sep 24, 02:46 AM 2012
Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Sep 24, 02:46 AM 2012
Here 2 last night Wiesbaden sessions Soggets way/which is correct by the way/


1 st session reached its req.aim in 199th.spin
Largest DD=111 un.=333 chips
won 36 un.= 108 chips.


2nd.session reached its req.aim in 207th.spin
Largest DD=43 un.=129 chips.
won=39 un.=117 chips.


Eight session in the row successful.
Title: Re: EASY AND SIMPLE WAY
Post by: Robeenhuut on Oct 07, 04:16 AM 2012


So FLAT what would be your main playing method because you posted recently lots based on the same "rolling" concept for sectors,splits,lines or sectors of 9?