Just something to spend a few minutes on...
This first one was a toughie. Begin watching at 4:45 in. Otherwise, I just lose.
link:://:.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=IUQ0xmKO7Hk# (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=IUQ0xmKO7Hk#)
This one is 43 seconds long. Bear with it..........
link:://:.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7U3s1w9bt2c# (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7U3s1w9bt2c#)
This one is is even shorter, 34 seconds. Try to stay awake!!
TCH
link:://:.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WNv-nwey6Hk# (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WNv-nwey6Hk#)
Guys
If you notice, the bank balance is real Euros and it goes up, up and up. (Course it also goes down, down and down!) You will also notice the spin numbers are also going up, so this was done in a matter of one and a half hours total, or 100 spins maximum. If I'm not good at 100 spins--call it a day.
John accused me of losing constantly and he's right. I usually do. I could play this system and probably do quite well over a month's time, but the devil gets hold of me and I just have to gamble! Just have to chase red or black. And I lose.
But that's my game and I make no apologies.
Now, if any of you gentlemen think I just cherry picked a trot that won, you're right! I did. On the last trot I lost 30.50 Euro. But, over time, this system will constantly inch it's way upward. Or let me say--it has since 2007 at many on-line and B&M casinos.
But should I be challenged, pick a starting number for Dublin somewhere in advance and I will begin with that number and we'll see what I can do. But give me a few chances; I can't promise a win every time. I would say five would be a fair test.
You understand I have obligations and I might reject a starting point well in advance. Middle of the night would be fine for me. I am GMT -6.
If I fail, you'll know I'm honest! Naturally I'll screen movie the whole hour and a half for your perusal.
I am still sorry, John. I spoke out of turn.
SO..........what do you think of the vids??
Samster
Sam,
I watched every video, read your words and I really havnt go any idea what this about
A totally and utterly confused Turner :question:
Quote from: Turner on Oct 07, 06:06 AM 2012
Sam,
I watched every video, read your words and I really havnt go any idea what this about
A totally and utterly confused Turner :question:
Me too...confused....not Turner!
In video 2, I bet the 15 and 17 and hit the 17 on the first spin.
(I am certainly smart enough to know that I can't do this every spin else it would be the "Holy Grail".)
Guys, I just got totally pissed at John calling me a loser. When I lose, it's because I gamble. When I played THE ELCLIPSE, I always won in the past. "Always" is not an exaggeration. I always won. Now, did I win every 100-spin session? No. But in 2006 or 2007, I ran $300 to over $3,200 at Casino Web Cam. Not one human on the planet knows this system but me, yet I've been told "It's luck" and that I'm a loser.
So I guess I just wanted to show in real time with real fifty-cent peieces what can be done on a wheel. Can I do it forever? Don't know. They may be right. It might be luck. (By the way, I've won lots of times with $10.00 on a number. That's makes you smile!!)
If John every comes clean on the FIVE, I might come clean on THE ECLIPSE. Frankly, it's a lot to just give away and I don't want money for it. Then again, I don't want someone on EBay selling it and making money of the thousands of spins I studied over two years to develop this system. (Anyone remember "The TwoCat 5,000"?)
Come on John, come clean on the FIVE. Tell us the whole system from A to Z, not just snippets. Answer questions of your disciples.
TwoCatSam
sam we are all losers and winners...this is gambling not stamp colecting...if system works for you keep it yours play it constantly no matter lose or win and exam it in deep when win whats going on table and when lose also.....know it like palm of your hands..i like your videos..the only way to make money is inside bets on numbers...
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Oct 07, 09:29 AM 2012
In video 2, I bet the 15 and 17 and hit the 17 on the first spin.
(I am certainly smart enough to know that I can't do this every spin else it would be the "Holy Grail".)
Guys, I just got totally pissed at John calling me a loser. When I lose, it's because I gamble. When I played THE ELCLIPSE, I always won in the past. "Always" is not an exaggeration. I always won. Now, did I win every 100-spin session? No. But in 2006 or 2007, I ran $300 to over $3,200 at Casino Web Cam. Not one human on the planet knows this system but me, yet I've been told "It's luck" and that I'm a loser.
So I guess I just wanted to show in real time with real fifty-cent peieces what can be done on a wheel. Can I do it forever? Don't know. They may be right. It might be luck. (By the way, I've won lots of times with $10.00 on a number. That's makes you smile!!)
If John every comes clean on the FIVE, I might come clean on THE ECLIPSE. Frankly, it's a lot to just give away and I don't want money for it. Then again, I don't want someone on EBay selling it and making money of the thousands of spins I studied over two years to develop this system. (Anyone remember "The TwoCat 5,000"?)
Come on John, come clean on the FIVE. Tell us the whole system from A to Z, not just snippets. Answer questions of your disciples.
TwoCatSam
Sorry sam...I more meant that I dont know what The Eclipse is.
There is a system called Eclipse in the forum to do with line bets. Thats why I am all confused.
Im guessing its a system that you invented that hasnt been published.
Turner
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TwoCatSam
--Still have it all put in excel,and sometimes testing with these numbers.
And what this is all about Sam,any light coming.
all posted winners-lol now if you could do this everytime-we have grail
wow thats very nice to have your number hit while only covering 2% of the board any hints to this?
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Oct 06, 08:00 PM 2012
Guys
If you notice, the bank balance is real Euros and it goes up, up and up. (Course it also goes down, down and down!) You will also notice the spin numbers are also going up, so this was done in a matter of one and a half hours total, or 100 spins maximum. If I'm not good at 100 spins--call it a day.
John accused me of losing constantly and he's right. I usually do. I could play this system and probably do quite well over a month's time, but the devil gets hold of me and I just have to gamble! Just have to chase red or black. And I lose.
But that's my game and I make no apologies.
Now, if any of you gentlemen think I just cherry picked a trot that won, you're right! I did. On the last trot I lost 30.50 Euro. But, over time, this system will constantly inch it's way upward. Or let me say--it has since 2007 at many on-line and B&M casinos.
But should I be challenged, pick a starting number for Dublin somewhere in advance and I will begin with that number and we'll see what I can do. But give me a few chances; I can't promise a win every time. I would say five would be a fair test.
You understand I have obligations and I might reject a starting point well in advance. Middle of the night would be fine for me. I am GMT -6.
If I fail, you'll know I'm honest! Naturally I'll screen movie the whole hour and a half for your perusal.
I am still sorry, John. I spoke out of turn.
SO..........what do you think of the vids??
Samster
9
THE GUT-WRENCHING TRUTH ABOUT TWOCATSAM
Years ago I met a fellow named Ronjo. Some may remember him. Ronjo sent me a system he had designed and asked if I would put it to the test and report the truth. I said I would--naturally! Might get a winning idea for free!
So I began the laborious process of recording numbers from Casino Web Cam. I saved and recorded 100 per day for fifty days for 5,000 spins. I made a study sheet to test his idea. While I was at it, I included about four other ideas in other columns.
Ronjo's idea failed the test, but I noticed two of the columns kept hitting at the same time more often than chance would dictate. That is to say that when system A called for a bet and system B also called for a bet, the chances of winning went up. I have written on this many times and called them "double advantage numbers".
I continued to download numbers for months and used only the two systems which produced the D.A. numbers. I found that after thousands upon thousands of spins, the phenomenon continued. On some 100-spin trots I would lose money. But it was always recovered a day or so later. Flat-betting; not using a progression.
Around 2007 the U.S. banned internet gambling. At the time, I had an account at Casino Web Cam and other casinos. Most notably in memory were Vegas Red and Las Vegas Live. I got checks from all these casinos.
After the shut-down, I became very depressed and only played THE ECLIPSE in B&M casinos in Tunica and Las Vegas. I always won. I know that sounds braggadocios, but it is the truth. I never lost a dollar on THE ECLIPSE. I still have not.
I told a few people about a system I'd created and they all--to a person--told me I had just been lucky. Let's see! Over thousands of test spins and real live play at three on-line casinos and at two B&M casinos I had won thousands of dollars seeing these one to five numbers hit time and time again--and it was all luck! I came to believe it.
Then I finally got access to Dublin--where I have made thousands playing THE ECLIPSE for fun--and I didn't have the guts to play it for real Euros. Why? Frankly, I'm scared to friggin' death they were right--it is all just luck. But two nights ago I had a walk and talked to myself. I decided it was time to put cowardice aside and go back to THE ECLIPSE. As I type this, I am scared to death.
Can you imagine what it's like to sit down with your stepson and win $275 in fifteen minutes. He thought I was a genius. What if it was just luck? If it is, I am pretty much toast. I've given it my all. I've ran my best race.
So, here in October of 2012, I will again play THE ECLIPSE come win or lose. I must know. If I were on my death bed tonight due to a heart attack, I would die wondering if it was all luck. I won't wait for that to happen, God willing.
The questions remains--if it is a winner will I give it away. People, I just don't know.
For those with some psychology--I don't know if I'm more afraid it will win or more afraid it will lose.
Time will tell.
Sam
You owe it to yourself to try so just play the bloody thing, Sam.
Good luck!
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Oct 07, 11:16 PM 2012
THE GUT-WRENCHING TRUTH ABOUT TWOCATSAM
Years ago I met a fellow named Ronjo. Some may remember him. Ronjo sent me a system he had designed and asked if I would put it to the test and report the truth. I said I would--naturally! Might get a winning idea for free!
So I began the laborious process of recording numbers from Casino Web Cam. I saved and recorded 100 per day for fifty days for 5,000 spins. I made a study sheet to test his idea. While I was at it, I included about four other ideas in other columns.
Ronjo's idea failed the test, but I noticed two of the columns kept hitting at the same time more often than chance would dictate. That is to say that when system A called for a bet and system B also called for a bet, the chances of winning went up. I have written on this many times and called them "double advantage numbers".
I continued to download numbers for months and used only the two systems which produced the D.A. numbers. I found that after thousands upon thousands of spins, the phenomenon continued. On some 100-spin trots I would lose money. But it was always recovered a day or so later. Flat-betting; not using a progression.
Around 2007 the U.S. banned internet gambling. At the time, I had an account at Casino Web Cam and other casinos. Most notably in memory were Vegas Red and Las Vegas Live. I got checks from all these casinos.
After the shut-down, I became very depressed and only played THE ECLIPSE in B&M casinos in Tunica and Las Vegas. I always won. I know that sounds braggadocios, but it is the truth. I never lost a dollar on THE ECLIPSE. I still have not.
I told a few people about a system I'd created and they all--to a person--told me I had just been lucky. Let's see! Over thousands of test spins and real live play at three on-line casinos and at two B&M casinos I had won thousands of dollars seeing these one to five numbers hit time and time again--and it was all luck! I came to believe it.
Then I finally got access to Dublin--where I have made thousands playing THE ECLIPSE for fun--and I didn't have the guts to play it for real Euros. Why? Frankly, I'm scared to friggin' death they were right--it is all just luck. But two nights ago I had a walk and talked to myself. I decided it was time to put cowardice aside and go back to THE ECLIPSE. As I type this, I am scared to death.
Can you imagine what it's like to sit down with your stepson and win $275 in fifteen minutes. He thought I was a genius. What if it was just luck? If it is, I am pretty much toast. I've given it my all. I've ran my best race.
So, here in October of 2012, I will again play THE ECLIPSE come win or lose. I must know. If I were on my death bed tonight due to a heart attack, I would die wondering if it was all luck. I won't wait for that to happen, God willing.
The questions remains--if it is a winner will I give it away. People, I just don't know.
For those with some psychology--I don't know if I'm more afraid it will win or more afraid it will lose.
Time will tell.
Sam
Hola Sam
Now you are doing a bit of teasing ;D I think that deep down you know an answer to your question.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Oct 07, 11:16 PM 2012
The questions remains--if it is a winner will I give it away. People, I just don't know.
Disclosing it - now - is the only way you're going to redeem yourself from the appearance of hypocrisy. You've demanded that JL do something...while you've been holding out. You want us to believe JL is still holding out...so you can keep holding out. Game over Sam. The best thing you can do is disclose it now, before any proof that it is a winner. People here might actually be able to make it a winner if it isn't...and you're method of testing is slower than molasses in December. No one here wants to be teased by someone who has accused others of teasing. Spill all the beans...now. That's my best advise. There have been a number of generous contributors here. You don't want to be one of them?
~Still
9
Sam, are you referring to Chico Flash/ Murph Corner combination?
I believed you made good profit using it.
Regards
I know what you mean sam.
I am in a situation where i am worried to put my money down. All my other hobbies dont have the capability to turn me into an idi.ot. In chess...the losses and humiliation are all in my head. With roulette, thelosses could easily be in my families heads too if i drained the family income.
Quote from: Still on Oct 08, 02:34 AM 2012
Disclosing it - now - is the only way you're going to redeem yourself from the appearance of hypocrisy. You've demanded that JL do something...while you've been holding out. You want us to believe JL is still holding out...so you can keep holding out. Game over Sam. The best thing you can do is disclose it now, before any proof that it is a winner. People here might actually be able to make it a winner if it isn't...and you're method of testing is slower than molasses in December. No one here wants to be teased by someone who has accused others of teasing. Spill all the beans...now. That's my best advise. There have been a number of generous contributors here. You don't want to be one of them?
~Still
Still puts forward a good argument.
Show us what you got Sam. Even if it is a winner only a very few will ever bother to use it anyway.
:thumbsup:
Gentlemen
Why don't we see if it works first? It may have all been luck. I will play and report later today.
The Chico/Murph system is exactly the same thing. I posted it, told people how they could get a free trial of the software and no one cared a whit. As far as I know, not one person even looked at it. I was even accused of being a scammer for Chico Flash. Can't even speak to the bloke; he's Italian. For the time I tested it, it showed a flat-bet profit.
I have an idea for two other systems which will create double-advantage numbers. When I'm through working on it, I will definately post it for your perusal whether it is good or bad. I feel there are dozens and dozens of these instances where two systems produce double advantage numbers.
IF I should reveal the nuts and bolts of this system, it will be done in exact and precise detail. There will be no questions in your mind. You will be told how to make the device us isolate and identify different things. (Yes, a tracker could do this, but I do it mechanically.) You will be given the work sheet and videos will be provided to walk you through it.
You may think me a hypocrite if you wish, and I guess I am. John is giving you miss-information; I'm giving you none. If and when I do give you information, it will be correct and accurate--not bastardized sentences that make no sense.
Sam
By the way, I feel no need to redeem myself. Nathan Detroit and others talk about their winnings and never say a word about how it's done.
Well, today I played and made terrible mistakes. I am lucky to get out losing only about four Euro. However, my mistakes amounted to about four Euro. That's the beauty of a flat-bet system. Had it been a progression, I would be toast.
The first video, Dub 8-1 shows how far down I went and then a win at around 2:17 in.
link:://:.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=tJnZBiimQcA# (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=tJnZBiimQcA#)
In Dub 8-2, I placed the 10 and 11 after I had bet the 13. This was a mistake. I actually saw a number on my worksheet that was not there. This is part of my insanity. ADD or ADHA or absent-mindnedness or just plain OLD.
Win comes around one minute.
Dub 8 2 (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=k_Ffvu_asfU#)
Tough day. Lost one Euro. Nothing more to report.
I'm trying to re-activate the old Chico Flash software for further testing.
And I'm going to look into the old Ronjo systems and try to find a winning ECLIPSE.
I'm really not as bad as you guys might think I am.
Well........maybe I am!!
TwoCatSam
OK
I have found the Leon Pro 2 software on my old desktop computer. Coupled with Murph's corner numbers, this system ECLIPSED and showed a flat-bet profit for the time I tried it.
Before I spend hours working on this, is anyone interested? I will use the saved numbers from THE ECLIPSE as I play it daily.
I will tell you right off the top, the software is 49 Euro or pounds or dollars--can't recall--for two licenses. Two could buy it for 25 each.
The system.
Murph picks a corner. Chico picks one or two lines (or was it streets?). When Murph's numbers appear in Chico's lines, it's a bet. That simple.
Sam
Count ME in Sam.
Cheers,
Dino.
OK, Dino.............
You're in like Flint---whoever the H he was!!!
Look at the PDF. Notice the 11 and 22 that are circled right after each other. OH! WAIT! We can use the magic word....consecutive!! LoL (Dug back to 2007 to try to find a winning ECLIPSE I can give away!!)
More after the rum wears off.......
Samster
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Oct 08, 08:02 PM 2012
You're in like Flint---whoever the H he was!!!
It's in like Flynn.
He was an aussie movie star, Errol Flynn. Apparently he was a bit of a ladies man and used to "pull the babes" with ease, hence the saying In Like Flynn.
Thank you, Skakus!
Hey Sam.
I'm FACINATED by what you are trying to show,but perhaps i need to go back to drinking Barcadi and Coke to fully understand it all !!
Can you please explain further.
Cheers,
Dino.
Dino
Don't know it myself yet, but when I do, I'll post!
Sam
Look at the "Ronjo Sheet".............
The 1s are the numbers in the first line of each dozen. The 2s are the second line.
Sam
Thanks Sam.......will use your latest info to Decode further !!
Very intriging.
Cheers,
Dino.
Go to post #28 and print the sheet or look at it. See how spins 3 and 4 are consecutive and circled? That is your trigger. Now you bet on just the 1s. In Ronjos system you would bet all ones.....18 of them.
Example:
1
1.......bet all 1s
1
1
1........The first two 1s were the couplet. The third won. The second and third formed a new couplet. Do you understand that?
Ronjo's method was pretty salty in and of itself. I'll try to improve on it.
Sam
Now for Murph's chart.
The numbers at the left.............they are the number that just came. They are NOT in parenthesis.
Look at 1-10-19-28.......
If any one of those number came, bet the numbers in parenthesis to the right. 1 2 4 5 is a corner.
Take note of the numbers you DO NOT bet at the bottom of the page. You might be surprised how often those numbers come together. 0 hits and then 35 or 8. 8 and 17 are really connected. (Voodoo)
Now you must realize that this changes with each number that comes. Either it hits on the first spin or it doesn't.
In my next post I will combine the two for the RM ECLIPSE SYSTEM. Ronjo/Murph, you know.
All hell is breaking out at my house, so I guess I better go!!
Sam
It's ALL getting CLEARER with each of your Post's Sam.
Will Back-Test using Live B+M spins.
OK, to my audience of one~~~LoL
On the Murph chart, highlight all "1" numbers in red or some bright color. Or just underline them in red; whatever makes the "1s" stand out for you.
Got that done? OK
Also, on the same chart, have you a piece of something you can lie just beneath the row of numbers that you're using. Now you've identified the "1s" in red and the line of numbers with an underlining device. I have a magnetic board I use. I'll show a photo later.
Now we're ready to play.
Beginning tracking until you get a 1 or 2 couplet. What is that?
1
1
or
2
2........they are consecutive!! No, really!! Back-to-back consecutive, not with a crapper full of gaps in between.
OK, let's say you get a 1 couplet. Once you get a couplet, it is good until......
A. A third 1 comes
1
1
2
1.........winner, winner. Catfish dinner!!
OR
B. A second couplet forms........
1
1
2
2
Now the 2 couplet over rides the 1 and we look for 2s until either A or B happens again. You stick with a couplet until it either wins or switches. No confusion there! Naturally, the 1s and 2s in the previous example could be reversed.
OK, we're on the 1 couplet and the number three comes. Look to the Murph chart. Put your underlining device under the number 3 on the far left of the page and look at the red or underlined red numbers. Those are 1s. You bet those numbers only.
Let us say 12 comes next, which is a 2. We lost. Put the under liner under 12 on the left and look for the reds. Let's say six comes. That is a winner on both Murph and Ronjo.
We begin over by looking for a couplet and betting.
Will this work? Haven't got the foggiest idea. I do know this. Murph's numbers hit a lot and so do Ronjo's lines. So it makes sense they would "eclipse".
While I'm not on the sauce, I'm in a hurry so if something doesn't make sense--please ask away.
Sam
I have edited and corrected the previous post many times. Read it now.....
OK
Look at the first win chart and to the left. See the 1 couplet on spins 2 and 3? The number 25 made that couplet and the first number we look to in Murph. The winner, 27 is not there. Lose 8.
Notice a second couplet forms on spins 3 and 4. The number that formed it was 27. Look to the Murph sheet for 27. 14 is one of the numbers Murph selected and it is the next number to come, spin 5. We are 20 units ahead.
That's it.
Sam
Where's murph's chart?
Geez.......can't believe I forgot!!
Told you all hell was breaking loose at my house!!
Been checking this system.
Not bad! Not half bad!
People who love progressions might take to it.
Sam
Sam,on a loser do we lose 16 not 8 ?
OR
If we bet the qualifying number's classified 1 = Lose 8 (Ronjo's Chart)
If we bet the qualifying number's classified 2 = Lose 8 (Ronjo's Chart)
My Brain is boiling with all this......NICE !!!!!!
dino
Each bet is 8 numbers. Remember, if you have a one couplet
1
1
you only bet the 1's on the Murph chart. That's where you get the numbers to bet. The Ronjo chart tells you whether to bet on just 1s or 2s.
OK
This may be good or bad; I don't know. It is more of an example than a system. It is showing how you can create your own ECLIPSE from systems you know. Might work; might not.
Reminds me of the old saying:
"Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he'll catch and eat fish until he yells, 'Geez, could I get some chicken fettuccine Alfredo for a change?'"
Sam
I just tried this on today's numbers from Dublin
Lost 384 Won..377
The longest LLL streak was 15. Don't know what kind of progression could play 8 numbers for 15 spins and win.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Oct 09, 08:08 PM 2012
I just tried this on today's numbers from Dublin
Lost 384 Won..377
The longest LLL streak was 15. Don't know what kind of progression could play 8 numbers for 15 spins and win.
Sam
All
On the same day I posted this, Wally posted his "Alligator" with his unusual progression. Naturally it is too soon to say, but that progression could work quite well with this system.
I will be looking into it.
Does anyone think it odd I asked that question and got an answer within hours?
Sam
A word of caution............
We hear the old saw--we'll were human; we make mistakes. Toss that out with the garbage.
When you are playing roulette, mistakes simply aren't allowed. Why? I once left out the 3 on a bet. Cost me $175. Religious people came to the door. Cost me $175. Phone rang. Doorbell rang. Had to whiz......
There is no telling where I'd be if it weren't for stupid mistakes. I am currently at 98.99 Euro in my ECLIPSE system and would be at around 134 had it not been for mistakes.
End of sermon.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Oct 10, 11:20 AM 2012
A word of caution............
We hear the old saw--we'll were human; we make mistakes. Toss that out with the garbage.
When you are playing roulette, mistakes simply aren't allowed. Why? I once left out the 3 on a bet. Cost me $175. Religious people came to the door. Cost me $175. Phone rang. Doorbell rang. Had to whiz......
There is no telling where I'd be if it weren't for silly mistakes. I am currently at 98.99 Euro in my ECLIPSE system and would be at around 134 had it not been for mistakes.
End of sermon.
Sam
Sam,
I feel your pain and frustration. I had a similar experience. I was laying out 5euro bets on straight up numbers. The doorbell rang and my concentration broke. My fault for not focusing and lost 120euro as the number came in.
I now put on earphones and listen to music.
Gerry
Thanks, Gerry. I've thought of that............
OK, here is another sheet I've done in a little better fashion. I need to create a means for doing this.
Still not in profit, but not bad. Notice how the 1s and 2s seem to congregate? That's what intrigued Ronjo. Also notice how at one time we had 0 35 0. They "seem" to cluster.
Again, applying the Gator's progression idea to this, it would win hands down.
Sam
I need to re-think the five number Murph does not use.
Still, if I'm off, it isn't by much.
Sam
Last test for the day.
I can tell this is about as interesting as a bucket of warm camel puke........but nevertheless!!
Good trot! Recovered all my losses and went ahead. That is the way these ECLIPSE systems work. They stay pretty even and then forge ahead for a trot or two. Seldom the run from hell. That fourteen Ls in a row was probably it.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Oct 10, 04:01 PM 2012
Last test for the day.
I can tell this is about as interesting as a bucket of warm camel puke........but nevertheless!!
Good trot! Recovered all my losses and went ahead. That is the way these ECLIPSE systems work. They stay pretty even and then forge ahead for a trot or two. Seldom the run from hell. That fourteen Ls in a row was probably it.
Sam
Sam
Never really experienced the warmth of camel puke, but, I would rather elevate the results of these tests to the smell of old and used Franklins coming my way. Very nice. I would agree with you that a progression of sort would enhance the returns. I`ll give this a go on spins that I have on file and report back.
Thanks again Sam.
Gerry
Gerry
I always used my ECLIPSE system on real wheels.
Secondly, don't be discouraged by a run against you. Give it a fair shot, say 500 spins or so.
Be sure to count the number of LLLLs in a row.
Sam
Another 128u profit........flat betting.
I bet youse guys think I'm cookin' da books.
Sam
Sam, I wanted to mention that I believe Ronjo's numbers were based on a single 0 wheel. Is that correct? Or, did it matter?
Yes, Wally, a single 0.
Well, one more at 12:35 am.
I made a mistake and left out a win so the profit is 72 instead of 44.
This is working far better than my original ECLIPSE.
Sam
The attached file contains the spins and results for my first test. Overall a loss of 20 units, but, clearly there is promise with this ECLIPSE system. A progression would overcome the string of L`s. The longest string is 19 L`s. Now on to the 2nd test.
Thanks again Sam.
Gerry
Gerry
My kitchen sink faucet lost its mind last night and the rest of the day is shot. I'd like to look over your numbers when I can
Thank you for at least testing. I am puzzled why no one is interested in this but a couple of guys.
Don't let -20 dissuade you. Your next run could produce a few hundred. I don't know how much I'm up with my real-number tests, but it must be around 100-150.
19 Ls is a ton. I'll calculate that, too, for a progression.
Sam
Here is test 2. This time around positive 140. Longest string 17 L`s. Not bad at all if you ask me. On to test 3.
Gerry
HA! :thumbsup:
i'm following the thread in silence 8)
Ok Sam
So you are saying that when a line repeats we have our trigger to bet numbers
we only bet the 1s or 2s depending on our trigger
the 1, 3 and 5 lines being 1s
and 2, 4 and 6 line being 2s
I will attach a sheet I made to make it easier, the top numbers are 1s and bottom numbers are 2s
Can you check if that is ok?
I read the thread like 5 times, think I got it but please check
Test 3. Results negative 100. One string 18L`s and one string 16L`s. Clearly a progression is on the horizon to deal with these lengthy number of losses. Overall the system is holding its own. After three tests a total net of 0. Considering the number of bets layed out I would say not bad at all.
Onwards and forwards!!!
Gerry
******So you are saying that when a line repeats we have our trigger to bet numbers******
Not exactly.
As you know, there are 1 lines and 2 lines. When a 1 (any of the three) repeats, you bet on 1s until a win or a 2 couplet comes.
3..1
6..1..........here we bet for 1s as called for by Murph. 5,6,14,15,17,18,26 and 27.
5..1..winner.
1
1
2
1.....the 1's won for Ronjo; maybe for Murph.
1
1
2
2......the 1s lost for Ronjo and the 2s are now at bat.
By the way, when hand testing and you see this:
1
1
2........no need to look at Murph as Ronjo lost. A loss on one is a total loss, you know.
Thanks for the chart. I think I'll use it. I had the others already from another system or two.
Thanks.
Sam
Gerry
I think you're still up 20. Lost 20, won 140 and lost 100.
But who's counting??
;D
Sam
Dino
Don't know; try it.
Guys
There are five numbers you do not bet on Murph's system after they appear. The zero is one
BUT
The zero is really not there unless it costs you money. Here is how I handle it:
1
0
1 This is a one couplet as the zero does not exist.
Sam
Hello Sam,
Thanks for the ECLIPSE system.
Murph's system is very clear and easy to follow. We just bet according to the chart as the numbers appear.
Ronjo's system is a bit confusing for me at this moment. I am not sure when to bet after a win.
Example:1
1
1 ( we forget about Murph's chart and just concentrate on Ronjo's for this example)
2 we loss here and continue betting on 1 for next spin
1 we win ( Do we stop betting and wait for new signal or we continue betting on 1?)
1
1
2 we loss
1 we win ( If we do not continue betting after this win, do we start tracking from here?)
1 ( Do we bet 1 after this? Is this a valid signal to bet 1 on next spin?)
Example 2:
1
1
1 win
1 (Is this a win? If this is a no bet, do we bet 1 for next spin?)
Regards
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Oct 11, 10:49 AM 2012
******So you are saying that when a line repeats we have our trigger to bet numbers******
Not exactly.
As you know, there are 1 lines and 2 lines. When a 1 (any of the three) repeats, you bet on 1s until a win or a 2 couplet comes.
3..1
6..1..........here we bet for 1s as called for by Murph. 5,6,14,15,17,18,26 and 27.
5..1..winner.
1
1
2
1.....the 1's won for Ronjo; maybe for Murph.
1
1
2
2......the 1s lost for Ronjo and the 2s are now at bat.
By the way, when hand testing and you see this:
1
1
2........no need to look at Murph as Ronjo lost. A loss on one is a total loss, you know.
Thanks for the chart. I think I'll use it. I had the others already from another system or two.
Thanks.
Sam
yes, that's what I ment
np, glad to be of help
I got it now
what progression do you think is best for this?
since we can't go with the regular progression for 8 numbers (too bad)
maybe +1 -1 in cycles of 10 or so?
Test 4. This one eeked out a 6 unit profit albeit strings of 17L`s and 21L`s. Thinking out loud, and as Sam suggested in an earlier post, the type of progression that WG posted in his thread ``The Alligator`` could be looked at. Will need to into it.
Gerry
Quote from: sniper on Oct 11, 11:48 AM 2012
Hello Sam,
Thanks for the ECLIPSE system.
Murph's system is very clear and easy to follow. We just bet according to the chart as the numbers appear.
Ronjo's system is a bit confusing for me at this moment. I am not sure when to bet after a win.
Example:1
1
1 ( we forget about Murph's chart and just concentrate on Ronjo's for this example)
2 we loss here and continue betting on 1 for next spin
1 we win ( Do we stop betting and wait for new signal or we continue betting on 1?)
You wait for another 11 or 22 to form.
1
1
2 we loss
1 we win ( If we do not continue betting after this win, do we start tracking from here?)
1 ( Do we bet 1 after this? Is this a valid signal to bet 1 on next spin?)
ANYTIME and I do mean anytime, you see 11 or 22 consecutive, that's a trigger.
Example 2:
1
1
1 win
1 (Is this a win? If this is a no bet, do we bet 1 for next spin?) Yes it is a win. Your first two 1s make a couplet and the middle two ones make a couplet.
Regards
I'm in a bad hurry.
Matty........LOL big time!!!
Sam
Another trot, a loser.
Gerry,
I'm thinking the "Gator" would do the trick. No time.....
Sam
Test 5. Result of 124 units in the black!! Correction on my Test 4 results should have been 8 units profit and not 6. This brings the total to +152 units - flat betting. Pretty nice. Now, to figure the progression.....
Gerry
I applied the ``Gator`` progression to the worst of the five tests - lucky Test 4 file. Originally flat betting yielded a loss of 100 units. There were two lengthy strings of L`s. Rembering that the Gator progression looked over a cycle of 7 spins with +1 if lost 5 or more and -1 if won 3 or more. Reset when cycle results in an overall back to even or ahead of previous highest total.
I have attached the file with the progression. Warning - the lowest point will give heart palpitations to the faint of heart but there is full recovery and the ending is rosy.
Would I play this progression? Most probably not. But more importantly, the RM ECLIPSE system will be my choice of play for now.
Gerry
Will you be playing it a B & M's in LV?
I just found this thread tonight trying to catch up to the other guys.
Gerry
I don't know where you're getting your numbers, but you Ls are far greater than mine.
And I agree, I would not play that progression either.
Sam
Hello Sam,
If you combine Murph' s system with the other Ronjo's system, you will bet less numbers.
The results are equally good if not better.
I attached the link for Ronjo's system.
I could be wrong, so far I tested positive flat betting.
Regards
link:://vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=4731.0 (link:://vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=4731.0)
Sniper
I think that's great. Care to tell us exactly how you chose the Ronjo numbers? I remember the post and even posted. I can go back and read it, but if you'd share.......
Sam
Hello Sam,
Do you remember this post of yours?
Lanky
Thanks for that, Mate!! Let me see if the ol' brain is working this morning.
Ronnie's groups are:
Group (1) 1-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19-31
Group (2) 2-20-21-22-23-24-25-26-27-28-29-32
Group (3) 3-4-5-6-7-8-9-30-33-34-35-36
I begin by collecting at least three spins.
I am seeing this after reading your examples:
If all three groups are present, you always bet for the first.
Example:
G2
G3
G1
Here you would bet for G2.
If only two groups are present:
G2
G3
G2
You bet for the missing G1?
If you lose 4 bets on a sleeper section, you quit that and go with the dominate section in the last three.
Take care of your health!
Sam
Hello Sam,
Sorry I can't get post #79 in place.
The quote function doesn't seems to work.
I posted the link earlier.
Regards
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Oct 11, 10:49 PM 2012
Gerry
I don't know where you're getting your numbers, but you Ls are far greater than mine.
And I agree, I would not play that progression either.
Sam
I looked at Gerry's results and 21 L's betting on any 8 numbers happen once in 160 games on average. I think you had more luck than him. ;D
Sniper
Thanks for that. Yes, I did read it. I'm lazy! I will go back and read the whole linked part.
Thanks.
Rob
This is what I believe and what the wheel has shown me over the years. When two systems eclipse, the hit rate goes up. That is why I believe these things win more than they lose. Maybe it is all just luck; that's what I've been told since 06 when I first started playing my original eclipse.
I posted the RM ECLIPSE as a template to show how to create a system. Maybe Sniper is right and the Ronjo numbers will work better. Why not leave out Murph and use Ronjo's lines and numbers?
There are an infinite number of ways to put one of these things together.
Sam
# Group
24 G2
15 G1
28 G2
17 L bet for g3
4 W
Whats next? Collect 3 new spins?
Not a great trip, but I didn't cry.
As to THE ECLIPSE, I am sitting at about 110 Euro. I'm up for my play by 10 Euro. I will not post any more movies until I start moving up.
Sam
I can't tell you the fun of a single-number hit.
Sam
Firstly and foremostly I wish to start off by thanking Sam for presenting his out of the box thinking process RM ECLIPSE.
I have completed 10 tests and the result is a 740 unit profit flat betting. The testing covered slightly over 3000 spins collected from my local casino. In fact one of those 10 was last friday which resulted in a 150 unit profit.
As I stated earlier, I will continue to play RM ECLIPSE as my system of choice.
Thanks again Sam.
Gerry
Gerry
What a breath of fresh air.
Well, folks, here's a bloke who tested 3,000 spins. Up 740. Who else has tested even a hundred?
As I said, this works better than THE ECLIPSE, my original.
Gerry, you are welcome and the best to you.
Sam
Could you recap the rules plz Sam ?
Download the Murph chart and the Ronjo chart and the chart by Soggett. (sp?)
Notice there are five numbers on the Murph chart that do not come into play. All do with Ronjo except the zero and it DOES NOT exist except when it costs you.
Ronjo
1
1.....this is a couplet
2
2.....as is this
When a couplet appears, look to see if the Murph numbers appear in the following:
2
2....we are betting for a Ronjo 2 and any numbers that Murph calls for.
1.....loss repeat with new Murph number
1.....Ronjo lost.
New couplet
1 Ronjo won Did Murph?
Anyone want a short movie?
1
0
1.......this is a couplet as zero is not really there.
Sam
Hola Sam
In my personal opinion its very tough to have a profitable method betting flat on many inside numbers. When i look at your session results i see a typical pattern that can happen in small number of spins. Few winning and also losing sessions with long losing streaks. Funny thing in my experience with flat bets is that they are almost always ahead in small number of spins (like 5k). I usually dont bother with further testing and the reason being is not that i know that the winning streak wont last. I just look at patterns, winning and losing streaks etc. The best performance i always got was from betting on small amount of numbers (max 6) staying on them for short amount of spins.
For example Pivot system just for a few spins or other good example is Mr J bet on a missing number from a street. ;D
Hello, Sam. Very interested in your system.
Would you check the attached excel file, in order to know if it is right.
If the excel is OK. then there it is a tool for testing your system.
I'll appreciatte your help.
Excuse me for my english.
Ricardo
Hi
Yes, the numbers are correct. I don't understand the columns, but I don't need to. If you develop a tracker, I'll be happy to run it through some tests or let Gerry.
Sam
I hope you understand the 1s and 2s. A 1 couplet can be:
1....1
30..1
OR
1....1
2....2 Where the first numbers are the spun numbers.
Sam
Hello Sam and Gerry.
Please,Would you check the attached excel file, to be sure that there are no mistakes?. It is ready for use now, also there is a small GUIDE.
If you tell me that column C (Ind) an the Bet numbers are OK, then I will try to get column C (Ind) updates by itself.
I'll be waiting for your answers.....
Ricardo
Ricardo
Something is wrong. I am attaching two shots.
Here is the explanation.
16.......1
7.........2
12.......2.......Here is your couplet to bet on for Ronjo. It is a 2 couplet. You look to the Murph chart and see what numbers the number 12 calls to bet that are also in the 2s on the Ronjo sheet. They are 11 12 20 21 23 24 32 33. The next number to come is
30.......1.....a loss. Still betting 2s as no win on 2s or no 1s couplet
33.......2.......winner
I hope this helps. Please let me know how I can help.
Sam
Quote from: rbayehb on Oct 15, 02:36 PM 2012
Hello Sam and Gerry.
Please,Would you check the attached excel file, to be sure that there are no mistakes?. It is ready for use now, also there is a small GUIDE.
If you tell me that column C (Ind) an the Bet numbers are OK, then I will try to get column C (Ind) updates by itself.
I'll be waiting for your answers.....
Ricardo
Hi Ricardo,
I just read your post. I will look over it as soon as I get a few chores out of the way.
A quick update on my continued testing and playing; netted a profit of 255 units yesterday playing at the local watering hole - after 14 tests, inclusive of actual played sessions, the total profit is 1216 units flat betting. There are no smoke and mirrors used here. The results are based on B&M spins that I have personally recorded with pen and paper.
I have read the Ronjo/Sam eclipse, and, I will get to that as part of my on-going tests.
Regards
Gerry
Gerry
I don't know whether to laugh or cry!!
No, seriously........
I'm proud for you. Wish others would take a look.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Oct 15, 06:17 PM 2012
Gerry
I don't know whether to laugh or cry!!
No, seriously........
I'm proud for you. Wish others would take a look.
Sam
Sam
First and foremost I pray for a total success of your wife`s upcoming surgical procedure.
I have to say that without a shadow of a doubt the RM ECLIPSE is by far the most stress free system I have had the opportunity to play. The wheel is spun, the number announced, look for couplets and cross-reference the Murph chart. That`s all there is to it.
Sam, I have to say yet again, simply BRILLIANT.
Thank you again and again
Gerry
Sam and Gerry, Thanks for your quick answer,
Sam: Remember that column D is green, you have to enter data here, as written in the GUIDE;
"D (Ind), here you enter the line you are going to bet, Type x if there is no bet."
As soon I have no doubt, I'll try a way so that column D update itself.....
Attached is the excel , with data entered in column D according to your note: Please check columns Bet Numbers, Reg, $unit, $Total bet and $balance.
In the first Excel I post, I fill the data in column D as I think it should be. Was there any mistake?
Ricardo
Ricardo
I will work on it some more. I'm a bit slow sometimes. Bear with me.
Thanks
Sam
Hey sam just a quick question:
16 1
7 2
12 2
30 1 11,12,20,21,23,24,32,33 -8 (so if we lose here, we continue "2" until there is a trigger right?)
33 2 2,3,5,6,14,15,29,30 -8 (the numbers for 30 are 2,3,5,6,14,15,29,30 but they fall under "1" how do we go about it?)
weddings
The number 33 is a 2 number. Are you looking at some chart other than mine the Murph chart?
But to answer:
1
1.....bet for 1 Murph numbers until
2...loss
1...win
or
1
1
2
2.......switch to 2s.
Sam
OK. Sam. Take your time....
Ricardo
Ricardo
OK, I put in the Xs and 2s and it showed a win, but the win amount is wrong. It should be 20. For each loss=<8> for each win +28.
Sam
Referring now to THE ECLIPSE, not the RM ECLIPSE.
I have had a terrible run of numbers over the past six or seven hundred spins. Went as low as 74 Euro. Today I went up 53 Euro.
I have switched wheels. I am now playing the Palace wheel at Dublin. When I won really, really well with this system I was on a John Huxley Starburst wheel at Casino Web Cam. It is much different than the other wheels at Dublin.
I raised this issue with winkle and he rejected the idea, but I think the Starburst acts differently than many other wheels.
Anyway, I'm sitting at about 130 Euro now in my account.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Oct 16, 02:12 PM 2012
Referring now to THE ECLIPSE, not the RM ECLIPSE.
I have had a terrible run of numbers over the past six or seven hundred spins. Went as low as 74 Euro. Today I went up 53 Euro.
I have switched wheels. I am now playing the Palace wheel at Dublin. When I won really, really well with this system I was on a John Huxley Starburst wheel at Casino Web Cam. It is much different than the other wheels at Dublin.
I raised this issue with winkle and he rejected the idea, but I think the Starburst acts differently than many other wheels.
Anyway, I'm sitting at about 130 Euro now in my account.
Sam
Woww I though you play pennies.
I do, but if I got the flow feeling I can go HIGH!
GOOD LUCK to you and your wife!
Thank you, Ralph. No, this is Dublin where you can only bet a minimum of .5 per number.
Today is the best day I've had testing the RM ECLIPSE. These numbers are from Palace Casino with the Starburst wheel. I will certainly continue testing.
For those who think I'm teasing or stingy or whatever........this system is far ahead of my original ECLIPSE.
Look over the sheet.
Sam
Sam thanks for your answer.
The bet unit is $0.5, that's why it adds only $14 on a win.
You can change it to $1 bet unit an then it adds $28 on a win.
Did you find any other error?
Ricardo
Excuse me Sam, I forgot, God be with you and your wife.
Ricardo
Ricardo
Thank you for your wishes. I will have another peek at the sheet.
Sam
Quote from: rbayehb on Oct 15, 02:36 PM 2012
Hello Sam and Gerry.
Please,Would you check the attached excel file, to be sure that there are no mistakes?. It is ready for use now, also there is a small GUIDE.
If you tell me that column C (Ind) an the Bet numbers are OK, then I will try to get column C (Ind) updates by itself.
I'll be waiting for your answers.....
Ricardo
Ricardo
Which column is "bet numbers"? A B??????
You must understand---as Wally Gator did---I am an Excel-challenged person! I just haven't studied it.
Now, when I open the program, tell me exactly which columns to clear/delete the information from.
I have to tell you, I've tried it six ways to Sunday and I can't figure it out. When I know which columns to clear, I will try it. If I'm still having trouble, I'll make a small movie and post it.
Thanks, by the way. Even now, it's a great tool for picking the numbers.
Sam
Excuse me Sam for putting you in troubble.
Bet numbers are from column F to M.
By now you should use always the original excel file.
You only enter data as follows:
- In column B (Draw), you enter the spun numbers.
- In column D ( Ind), you enter 1, 2, or "x", when needed. (column D updates de next cell with the data of the last cell)
- In column Y ($ Unit), you can change the value whenever you want. I also updates update de next cell with the data of the last cell
Attached is a small video in Winrar Format, that shows how to enter data, and a original excel file.
I promise you than about monday you will have an improved excel file, so that only enter the spun numbers.
I hope this will bbne usefull.
Ricardo
hi Sam, & thanks for posting this.
I'm getting my head around it i think.. can i check with you-
In 1 of your examples (dated 10-6-12-2 reply#50) you had this at the beginning:
11..2
23..2
34..2..W
6....1..L
9....2..L
Should that 9 not be a win?
You're still betting for Ronjo's 2s, the last number was 6, so 9 should be a win shouldn't it?
monaco
You are right. I'd like to say that it was test to see who was really studying. I'd like to say that, but I won't. I made a mistake. Thanks for the sharp eye!
Sam
Hi Sam
I thanks you for your post, Maybe the reason not many are testing is because it can be hard for some (including me) to get there head around. I have down loaded all the charts and am about to start testing will let you know how it goes.
Va
Hi Sam
I need a hand please, I have printed out all the sheets and charts but can not put it together. I was looking at your video and sometimes you have .5 on some numbers and the 1 euro and . 5 on another in the same spin. What I can se is that you would always have the same amount of bets. Also I can not understand how you bring murph and Ronj chsrt together. Sorry Mate i'm a bit slow but once I get it ill be fine, I just need a little guidence.
Thanks
Val
Why did this interesting thread just die off all of a sudden?
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Oct 09, 03:45 PM 2012
OK, to my audience of one~~~LoL
On the Murph chart, highlight all "1" numbers in red or some bright color. Or just underline them in red; whatever makes the "1s" stand out for you.
Got that done? OK
Also, on the same chart, have you a piece of something you can lie just beneath the row of numbers that you're using. Now you've identified the "1s" in red and the line of numbers with an underlining device. I have a magnetic board I use. I'll show a photo later.
Now we're ready to play.
Beginning tracking until you get a 1 or 2 couplet. What is that?
1
1
or
2
2........they are consecutive!! No, really!! Back-to-back consecutive, not with a crapper full of gaps in between.
OK, let's say you get a 1 couplet. Once you get a couplet, it is good until......
A. A third 1 comes
1
1
2
1.........winner, winner. Catfish dinner!!
OR
B. A second couplet forms........
1
1
2
2
Now the 2 couplet over rides the 1 and we look for 2s until either A or B happens again. You stick with a couplet until it either wins or switches. No confusion there! Naturally, the 1s and 2s in the previous example could be reversed.
OK, we're on the 1 couplet and the number three comes. Look to the Murph chart. Put your underlining device under the number 3 on the far left of the page and look at the red or underlined red numbers. Those are 1s. You bet those numbers only.
Let us say 12 comes next, which is a 2. We lost. Put the under liner under 12 on the left and look for the reds. Let's say six comes. That is a winner on both Murph and Ronjo.
We begin over by looking for a couplet and betting.
Sam
OK, before I make a video, I want to be sure all interested are familiar with the rules.
Sam
Nice one Sam I have downloaded the Murph pdf and the Ronjo pdf I assume they are the two sheets I need to have when I follow the video.
I haven`t posted updated results as it appeared to me that the interest waned and as the old saying goes ``you can lead a horse to water``.. well you know the rest.
I have been playing the RM Eclipse solely over the last few weeks at my local casino. To date I stand at a real profit level of $1,072 solely flat betting at unit value of $1. I stopped back testing this puppy as the writing was on the wall.....PROFITABLE LONG TERM.
It doesn`t mean that you won`t have days that are in the negative. Overall, a great method of play in the toolbox.
Again, thanks Sam.
Regards
Gerry
Hooooooooooooooboy............
Wait until youse guys see the upcoming video.
Cool the beer!!
Nothing like a good teaser Sam...you should be working in Hollywood
Here is the video and once again, the charts exactly as I used them.
RM ECLIPSE (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=_4gSUsd4pyo#)
Sam, I am late to the thread so if this has been asked and answered prior please forgive. I scanned the whole thing pretty quick and thought it referenced this as a single 0 cross chart.
Is there a Murph chart for a 00 wheel?
The murph chart or the ronjo chart ignores zeros. It's in the video.
Thanks for the video Sam
PGA could you elaborate on "Looks like the writing is on the wall" please ?
Val
Fantastic stuff SAM many thanks and to all you people who missed this first time round I would advise you to take a look as I have lurked here for months as a guest and this is by far the most interesting thread by a country mile!
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Dec 03, 04:21 PM 2012
The murph chart or the ronjo chart ignores zeros. It's in the video.
I saw in the charts the lack of zeroes, but on the Murph chart it said not to bet on the single 0 without a reference for the 00.
The reason I asked was obviously if on the Murph chart there is a relationship between the numbers that may be wheel derived and it is based on a single 0 wheel and I am playing on a 00...there's likely to be issues...and issues in roulette are usually relaly really expensive.
I'll wathc the video when I get a chance and it may fill in the blanks...thanx
Quote from: valvo on Dec 03, 04:42 PM 2012
Thanks for the video Sam
PGA could you elaborate on "Looks like the writing is on the wall" please ?
Val
Val
My reference to the ``writing was on the wall`` is in regards to RM Eclipse being profitable after testing. I am amazed at how well RM Eclipse is performing consistently and constantly.
Regards
Gerry
Totally ignore the zero. Sometimes it will hit and cost you money. During tracking, ignore it; it doesn't exist.
I would be happy to donate if anyone would like to make a tracker for this? I play on 888 casino live wheel where you have about 5 - 10 seconds to place your bet between each spin so I'd like something nice and simple where I just enter the last number spun and it tells me what numbers to bet if any for the next spin.
Well done Sam for discovering this I don't know why you bother with anything else as this is as good as it is ever going to get I think! Perhaps some discussion about possible staking plans to use with it would be in order or do we think flat betting is the way to go?
Flat betting for me.
Frankly, when you have played this a bit, you can have the bet decided in about two seconds. Still, a tracker would be nice!
A tracker like the L v F tracker is what is needed. Then you can just plug in numbers from Spielbank and know in a flash what the results are. Various progressions would be nice to try.
Warning: You get dry spells where you don't get a hit for many spins. A progression might just ruin the whole basket of apples.
Sam
Hello Everyone . . .
Stef and I can provide a simple and easy to use Excel Tracker for this or most any system.
You simply enter the number spun and the Tracker will tell you immediately what numbers, if any, to be bet.
It will also track the results.
It will also allow you to play Flat Betting or with negative progression levels that you can change.
You could also copy and paste any set of numbers you wish to test.
Let Me Win has already agreed to a small donation of 20 GBP to offset our efforts. Anyone else interested just reply or send me an email.
Cheers . . .
Nick
Sure, I'll throw in twenty pounds. Give us an E-mail.
Sam
Thanks Sam . . . now to some nitty gritty details . . .
Spun # Ronjo # Numbers to Bet
7 1
12 1 2-3-5-6-14-15-29-30 (Bet Couplet #1)
15 2 2-3-5-6-14-15-29-30 (Repeat Bet as there is No Winner)
30 1 Winner No Bet
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
7 1
12 1 2-3-5-6-14-15-29-30 (Bet Couplet #1)
15 2 2-3-5-6-14-15-29-30 (Repeat Bet as there is No Winner)
9 1 No Winner Repeat Above Bet? or get new numbers from #9 5-6-14-15-17-18-27-27?
Kindly advise if in this second example we repeat the previous bet or get a new set of numbers to bet on?
Nick
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Quote from: Nickmsi on Dec 04, 01:05 PM 2012
Thanks Sam . . . now to some nitty gritty details . . .
Spun # Ronjo # Numbers to Bet
7 1
12 1 2-3-5-6-14-15-29-30 (Bet Couplet #1) Correct. Here you have a couplet, 1,1. The 12 calls for a Murph bet as shown.
15 2 2-3-5-6-14-15-29-30 (Repeat Bet as there is No Winner) Wrong. You still have a live 1,1 couplet, but you bet for the Murph numbers called for by the number 15: 5 6 14 15 17 18 26 27
30 1 Winner No Bet Correct.
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7 1
12 1 2-3-5-6-14-15-29-30 (Bet Couplet #1) Right.
15 2 2-3-5-6-14-15-29-30 (Repeat Bet as there is No Winner) Wrong. 15 came and that overrides the 12. Even though 15 is a 2, you still bet its numbers. See above.
9 1 No Winner Repeat Above Bet? or get new numbers from #9 5-6-14-15-17-18-27-27?
Kindly advise if in this second example we repeat the previous bet or get a new set of numbers to bet on? 15 and 9 do not make a couplet so there is no bet.
Nick
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Maybe I should say this differently:
When you have a couplet
2
2...........you bet on the Murph numbers that caused the newest 2.
2
2
1...........The 2 couplet is still alive, but you bet for the Murph numbers that caused the 1.
I'm short on time. Please tell me if you need more help.
Sam
Payment sent!
Not very important but nice features to also have would be an undo button in case I enter the wrong number whilst playing and a table so I can click the last number spun to enter it which is even faster than typing and pressing enter each time! Also a reset button would be good too!
But no problem if any of that is too much hard work to do.
I am testing it. Just clear the last entry. Or several
Hi Nick
I have a system I would like you to make a tracker for if you are interested contact me via IM or email.
Thanks
Val
Great, I can't wait to get started on this myself! If I flat bet $1 per number what size bank would you recommend? Or at least what would be the minimum size bank perhaps $100 ?
Frankly, testing will tell that. I don't know.
LOL Good answer I just read this joke by the way....
Someone just threw a bottle of Omega 3 pills at me. Don't worry, I only suffered Super Fish Oil injuries ;D
TCS,
can you take a look at this and say if I am doing it right?
thank you
soggett
I don't see the Murph numbers anywhere. But....a tracker is in the offing. No thought required!
Sam
well I just did the wins and losses
ok, I'll wait for the tracker then
thx
Here is the tracker. One tester reports a bug to me. I think he is wrong.
Please test this against my video or sheets before you use it. When I get time, I will test it myself and post yes or no.
Sam
There is an error in the tracker. I'll try to get it corrected.
UPDATE
I contacted Nick and explained further to him how the system works. He has sent me version 1.2. I am going to laboriously input every possible combination and check it against my sheets. When I am satisfied it is right, I will post it.
Sam
Thanks Sam.
I hope you get a nice bottle of rum for xmas.
What was the error? I have been using 1.1 for real money :(
It may have been only on one set of spins, but it called for bets in the wrong category. I can't remember who sent me an e-mail and told me it was wrong and I did not believe it until I say it for myself.
Put in the numbers
14
27
24............you will get the wrong numbers here.
I'm going to work on this today and will post it soon.
Sam
any updates Sam? >:D
I thought I sent it to you! I wonder who I sent it to??
Anyway, here it is.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Dec 14, 11:30 PM 2012
I thought I sent it to you! I wonder who I sent it to??
Anyway, here it is.
You didn't, someone got a freebie ;D
thanks Sam, will take a look
Sorry it took me so long, I have been very busy the last few days
when there is no bet ( NB - dead numbers ) the tracker still takes 8 unit from the BR so it calculates wrong - just input a couple of 35's and you will see (even a zero after that)
I went through the numbers from your video and we have 4W and 7L which is +56 units
and the tracker says +40 - the difference is the NB taking 8 units from the BR
I think thats it, the rest seems fine
soggett
I really am in a time bind today. Any chance you could post that excel from the Tracker? I think I know what's wrong. It's me; not the tracker.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Dec 17, 10:52 AM 2012
soggett
I really am in a time bind today. Any chance you could post that excel from the Tracker? I think I know what's wrong. It's me; not the tracker.
Sam
No problem Sam
and it's not You ;)
this is what I ment, there is no bet but look at the BR
OK, something is horribly wrong. Let me look into it.
soggett
You are right. For the life of me, I don't know what happened.
As you may know, my e-mail is down and may be for days. I cannot access my saved e-mails from Nick and I can't contact him.
You know, a new set of eyes on this project might help. I'm sure this would be a five-minute fix for him. Would you consider contacting him?
Sam
Holy Communication, Batman!! My e-mail is back.
I got one from Nick and he corrected the error.
This was my fault as I overlooked it.
Thank you, Nick.
Thank you, sogget.
Attached is ver 1.6
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Dec 17, 12:31 PM 2012
Holy Communication, Batman!! My e-mail is back.
I got one from Nick and he corrected the error.
This was my fault as I overlooked it.
Thank you, Nick.
Thank you, sogget.
Attached is ver 1.6
Sam
thats great news
will look this one over
Using the RNG version of Nick's tracker.................
This thing is not half bad. Far more wins than losses.
Testing is up to you guys.
Play at your own risk; don't sue me!
Sam
Hallo!
I have download the rng version of the tracker i my be a fool, but how do i get the thing to work,
please help me , so i can test this system, please somesone??
agesta
the rng version is for quick testing settings, its made with the built-in rng of excel.
if you press F9 in the rng-tracker you'll see the numbers change :-)
for testing it with real spins you must download the manual version.
and start inputting your numbers in the yellow B-column
Stef
And you can cut and paste from Spielbank if you want real spins.
Just take out the - - - and the writing.
SAM and STEF thanks a lot!!
Agesta