Always happy to teach the G.U.T.
Tutorial 1 (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=koY33YFcgBA#ws)
My Edited Video (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7sQwVTC-ig#ws)
hey TCS whats the stop loss and win you recommend?
"Hopefully no distractions, like the telephone, barking dogs or gunfire"!!
I love you TCS! ;D
Roughy
Mr. TCS
I think you can't sound more american than you sound!!! LoL
Incredibly funny Cool :thumbsup:
Also can you post the link to that tracker you are using?
Cheers
Drazen
Look in downloads for Track4 or droidman..
Stop loss/win......
Here I use that "gambler's intelligence". Some days crossings just fail to happen for me and I get out at around -50. I like to win about 25 E on a .50 around 50 E and so on.
When I take a hit, a loss, I drop down a unit for the next couple of trots.
There is a mistake in the edited video on spins 60 and 67. I bet the wrong numbers.
If you find any other mistakes, let me know.
Sam
Sam would you play this on BVNZ
I think I read Robert was doin just that (to get practice)
With no pressure on the next spin it might be a good place to start ?
Yes that's what I'm doing Twister.
Seems to be going well and I have as much time as I want. I'm wondering if this might be the best way as Winkel said it made no difference.
I've watched Sam's excellent video a couple of times. He seems to be playing every crossing like Winkel said you could. At the moment I am trying to learn to be a bit selective, applying some caution. There are different approaches.
Trebor
Here is the tracker
Earlier I tested this, in my opinion the system is not as good as it looks.
Spends a lot of units at once,hard returns and it is very slow for my taste.
Sam....
Thanks for taking time to put the vids together. Amazing.....I read every post last night on VLS for GUT and didnt really get it.
I got this before the 4th Zero had hit. Visual is so better.
Is that an Oklahoma accent or were you born elswhere?
Turner
Mare
Thank you for the tracker. It is not the one I use. I'll try to attach it.
I found a mistake in this tracker right off the bat. I would not bet as it directs, but use my own judgement.
Turner
I live about 65 miles from where I was born. Yes, I'm a redneck........
If you've every picked your nose and wiped the booger on the dog............you might be a redneck. (Apologies to Foxworthy!)
Sam
thanks for posting the video's
got 'em going after our power came back on from Sandy...helps alot to see it play out
pretty easy to play on the pc it looks like...maybe a little tougher to track and bet in a b&m
from here in THE Buckeye State I was guessing at Tennessee for the accent
thanks again for taking the time to make and post the videos...an excellent tutorial
Here is a screen shot of the tracker mare uploaded. I created a 1 vs 2 crossing. What all the stuff in the crossing window is--beats me.
Sam
I watched a vid of the GUT and tbh I'im still none the wiser what it means
Hey Sam,
great Video you made there. Congratulation....
Makes things allot easier.....
Ray
Quote from: subby on Oct 30, 08:08 PM 2012
I watched a vid of the GUT and to be honest I'I'm still none the wiser what it means
Do you want to know? If so, ask a question. I'll answer.
Sam
I don't understand the concept of a crossover. How does he work it out?
Great job Sam, :thumbsup:
I tried this GUT system and tracker last year but i was not sure
if i was playing the right way. :question:
Now, it's cristal clear, thanks and congrats.
nOrMy2o0o
Thank you for that.
Is a crossover when the unhit bets almost equal the hit bets and when you think numbers hit twice are gonna hit 3 times......how can you tell when what will happen ?
Twister
You never look at it that way.
A crossing is when descending numbers cross with ascending numbers.
Example:
14 13
0 vs 1
You have fourteen unhit numbers and 13 that have hit once. The 0s are getting smaller and the 1s are growing. You bet on the 0s. A hit would mean a 13 in the 0 column and a 14 in the 1s column. The graph lines have crossed.
You can also have a
14 14
Here the data points are on the same line. A win would be
13 15
Hope this helps.
Sam
Quote from: Twisteruk on Oct 31, 05:41 PM 2012
Is a crossover when the unhit bets almost equal the hit bets and when you think numbers hit twice are gonna hit 3 times......how can you tell when what will happen ?
Just so Twisteruk !
This is the reason why this system makes no sense.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Oct 31, 06:48 PM 2012
Twister
You never look at it that way.
A crossing is when descending numbers cross with ascending numbers.
Example:
14 13
0 vs 1
You have fourteen unhit numbers and 13 that have hit once. The 0s are getting smaller and the 1s are growing. You bet on the 0s. A hit would mean a 13 in the 0 column and a 14 in the 1s column. The graph lines have crossed.
You can also have a
14 14
Here the data points are on the same line. A win would be
13 15
Hope this helps.
Sam
Why ?
In essence is that not what you are doin ?
Please explain to me what it is if it is not that as I would like to understand. My current understanding is you bet when unhit is about to "crossover" to hit or 2 hits are "crossing" over to 3 hits.
How do you know when to do what ? Other than pure guess and luck ?
Twister
You and mare seem to be of the opinion that this is just guessing and luck. Tell me of one system/idea/method that is not.
I cannot promise you the G.U.T. will work throughout the ages. I will tell you--if nothing else--it plays very evenly. A proper progression would make this better but I can't figure one out. And I would want a bankroll of 1,000 Euro to play with .50 bets.
Perhaps you should take mare's advice and leave this system alone.
Sam
I did not realized it before now, one of my EC methods is based on the thoughts in GUT.
It is posted in the testing zone together with the script.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Nov 01, 11:21 PM 2012
Twister
You and mare seem to be of the opinion that this is just guessing and luck. Tell me of one system/idea/method that is not.
I cannot promise you the G.U.T. will work throughout the ages. I will tell you--if nothing else--it plays very evenly. A proper progression would make this better but I can't figure one out. And I would want a bankroll of 1,000 Euro to play with .50 bets.
Perhaps you should take mare's advice and leave this system alone.
Sam
Mate chill out ! I only wanted to understand what you do and why/when you do it
Anyway nevermind :smile:
Quote from: Twisteruk on Oct 31, 05:41 PM 2012
Is a crossover when the unhit bets almost equal the hit bets and when you think numbers hit twice are gonna hit 3 times......how can you tell when what will happen ?
Twister
I am one who believes in terminology. Doctor asks for a scalpel; nurse hands him a bed pan. Things don't go well.
If I or winkle used the word "crossover", I don't recall it. It's crossing. You can never tell when it's going to happen. If you could, you would just bet that spin and have the Grail. It's gambling, after all. But there is a logic to it. winkle called it "stochastic" and I don't understand that word, but there is something to it. When you see hit after hit as I have, on less than 12 numbers, you begin to feel there is something to it.
There is no such thing as "almost equal". "hit twice are gonna hit 3 times" That would be a 2 vs 3. These are the crossings:
0 vs 1
1 vs >1
1 vs 2
2 vs >2
2 vs 3
3 vs >3
I have played a lot of systems; bought a few. Nothing comes close to the G.U.T. in performance. When
played correctly, it is possible to win. While I do not believe in H&R, there is a time to get out and a time to stay. One must develop this knowledge for himself. This is true of all systems. Nathan Detroit said as much today on the pilot's post.
Sorry if I came off brash. I love to teach the G.U.T., mainly out of respect for winkle. But I will not use incorrect terminology as it will soon morph into something else and then something else and then nobody knows what anybody is saying and everybody is confused. Somebody has to draw the line and that's the teacher.
I truly don't appreciate snide remarks like those from mare. I'm not selling anything; I'm just saying this is a method you
might want to look at. If you don't that's your decision and I am happy with it if you are.
Again, don't take this the wrong way.
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Nov 02, 12:27 PM 2012
Twister
I am one who believes in terminology. Doctor asks for a scalpel; nurse hands him a bed pan. Things don't go well.
If I or winkle used the word "crossover", I don't recall it. It's crossing. You can never tell when it's going to happen. If you could, you would just bet that spin and have the Grail. It's gambling, after all. But there is a logic to it. winkle called it "stochastic" and I don't understand that word, but there is something to it. When you see hit after hit as I have, on less than 12 numbers, you begin to feel there is something to it.
There is no such thing as "almost equal". "hit twice are gonna hit 3 times" That would be a 2 vs 3. These are the crossings:
0 vs 1
1 vs >1
1 vs 2
2 vs >2
2 vs 3
3 vs >3
I have played a lot of systems; bought a few. Nothing comes close to the G.U.T. in performance. When played correctly, it is possible to win. While I do not believe in H&R, there is a time to get out and a time to stay. One must develop this knowledge for himself. This is true of all systems. Nathan Detroit said as much today on the pilot's post.
Sorry if I came off brash. I love to teach the G.U.T., mainly out of respect for winkle. But I will not use incorrect terminology as it will soon morph into something else and then something else and then nobody knows what anybody is saying and everybody is confused. Somebody has to draw the line and that's the teacher.
I truly don't appreciate snide remarks like those from mare. I'm not selling anything; I'm just saying this is a method you might want to look at. If you don't that's your decision and I am happy with it if you are.
Again, don't take this the wrong way.
Sam
Hey Sam, thanx for takin the time to write that reply its much appreciated
If I used a wrong term it was not on purpose, I apologise if I did
I have never and would never make any snide comment to you about this. I genuinely wanted to and still do understand how it works
From my inexperienced pov it looks like you play Unhit when its about to have a crossing with Hit and I sought clarification as to how you know how and when
I fully accept there are Systems I will never understand. There are Systems here that I really wish I did understand but Im not able to due to my own limitations
Hopefully, time permitting, you will be able to do another session and record it for us so we can watch it in action.
I really do enjoy ure vids and I always watch them in the hope I will understand
Thanx Sam for your efforts :thumbsup:
I would love to make another video, but not at this time. My wife is recuperating from surgery and I must be able to go to her as necessary. That is why I'm cold-number testing The FLATman's 9 vs 9 system. (Sounds like a crossing!)
As soon as possible I'll post a graph. Sometimes I explain better with drawings.
Sam
Here is one of the most common crossings.
Hi Sam
Greetings from the other side of the pond !!!
I know I don't post alot on the forum but I have to compliment your 2 videos of GUT which I did watch all the way through :)
Excellent straight forward teaching and you really do entertain with your comments about the Zero repeats lol
I think it might be a good idea to incorporate MrJ's catch the 8 train whilst playing this as it would help you hit those repeaters which often cause losses
Only a suggestion, looking forward to your next Video and hope your Wife is recovering well ;D
Gordon
Gordonline
You're exactly right! Many hits on the numbers that are in the "3" columns.
Thank you for your compliments. I don't look for George Lucas or anyone to buy me out, but I love making videos.
Sam
Sam
You're welcome !!!!
I forgot to mention that whilst I was watching your 2 hour video I noticed your BR held quite steady around the 277 area although you had a bad run and sensibly cut your losses
I think a mild progression would help you get through those long sessions, but as I'm not experienced with this method no doubt you will already have thought about this and maybe working on it
I'm off to bed now as its 01:15am here
Good night ;D
Gordon
Gordon
The thing about a progression is that sometimes a crossing is 4 numbers and sometimes 16. It is beyond my ability to figure out such a beast.
One could use a progression for, say, a dozen and some would win too much and some too little. Maybe it would even out.
Sam
Hi Sam,
May be you could add all bets, once you have reach 36, you add 1 to your bets,
when you reach 72, you add 1 more unit to your bets, and so on...
example:
Bets, Number of bets, Cumulatives Loss, W/L
1 4x1 4 lost
2 16x1 20 lost
3 8x1 28 lost
4 5x1 33 lost
5 10x2 53 lost, 33+10 > 36, so we go +1
6 4x2 61, win, reset to 1
7 10x1 10 and so on...
Just an idea...
br, nOrMy2o0o
Normy2000
That is a very good idea. I was thinking inside the darn box and missed that! I will certainly give that lots of consideration.
Sam
That said, be carefull, a progression is allway dangerous.
If you have satisfactory results flat betting, it might be the way to go.
br, nOrMy2o0o
nOrMy2o0o
Yes, that's true, but it is a rather unique idea.
Sam
Hey Sam,
This morning, i was playing as i sugessted above and the progression was going up to 5-10 units. Kind of scary... ???
So i decided to handle a progression for each groups. >:D
One for the 0's, for for the 1's, etc...
When you win with a group, you subtract the wining to the other group's progression starting with the higher one to avoid these other progressions to add up.
example:
cumulative bets without win,
bets on 0's: 13, 12, 11, you stand at 36
bets on 1's: 12, you stand at 12
bets on 2's: 6, 6, you stand at 12
bets on 3's: 2, 2 you stand at 4
then group of 3's win, your up 32, so you subtract 32 from group 1s and stay at 1 unit, or reset progression for group 1's and 2's. :question:
This way, we can almost flat bet all the time!
To be tested further....
best regards, nOrMy2o0o
Normy
I'll have to study on that one!
Like any system, this one can hit a dry spell. It may last two sessions before the thing turns in your direction. This is where pure luck may truly factor in; I just don't know.
I'm still of the opinion that a stop loss and win goal are necessary to survive and prosper. Time will tell.
Thanks for your valuable input.
Sam
Hello TwoCatSam
I had a quick question you do tests on the cross (1.2.3 and 34.35.36 and 10.11.12 etc. ...) or double cross (1.2.3.4.5.6 and 19.20.21.22.23.24 etc...) with g.u.t
It would not be faster than full numbers and cheaper?
Example: double-cross
0: 1.2.3.4.5.6
1:
2:
Output No. 35
0: 1.2.3.4.5 0: 5
1: 6 1: 1
2: 2: 0
Etc. .....
A small file or Excel Tracker for testing would welcome Mercia
good day
spartacus
I am lost!
A crossing is, for example, 12 unhit numbers vs 11 or 12 hit once numbers. I simply don't follow what you're saying.
Sorry.
Sam
sorry this translation is
g.u.t street use with single or double.
sorry I do not speak english
Hi TwoCatSam,
again a great work of you. Thank you for taping hours of explaining G.U.T
I have to make some notes:
1. G.U.T is not a system but a strategy. We just have a hint which numbers to bet. Nothing else is given.
2. What Konfused proved was this: If we have a crossing and we bet continously on that crossing we will end up -2.7%. (e.g. 14 of "0" vs 13 of "1" we will have a hitrate longterm of 14/37)
3. But we don´t play this single crossing (14vs13). We play all appearing crossings (see videos).
Results may be:
all crossings win
some win some lose
all lose
4. If we "watch what is going on!" we can detect losing streaks and avoid them. Or detect winning streaks and play them.
5. To "watch what is going on" and using "gambler´s intelligence" can make you a long-term-winner
br
winkel
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Nov 05, 06:57 AM 2012
spartacus
I am lost!
A crossing is, for example, 12 unhit numbers vs 11 or 12 hit once numbers. I simply don't follow what you're saying.
Sorry.
Sam
Spatacus is using google translator so its gonna be a bit pidgeon.
THE RETURN OF WINKLE
Good to read your again, my old friend. Please post and teach.
How is your health? You're well, I hope.
Sam
Sam, your generosity with your time is incredible and I can tell you love the gut and the video's are awsome!! I'm a liitle curious there are only double zero wheels in your neck of the woods. Do you play this on a double zero when you visit b&m casino. Double zero kills most american systems unless you just hunt the zero,s If you have already answered this sorry. ld what kind of pooch was that sounds like a good huntin dog to me
lorna
Thank you. I love to make videos. It's the ham in me.
I've never tried it on a 00 wheel. Hope to soon.
The dog is a Schnauzer.
Sam
Hey Sam, just watched your gut videos again, your last statement on the second video says it all, it's fun to play. For me that's a biggie! Please keep teaching this is such good stuff. ld
lorna
It's more fun when you're winning. Losing really hugs the bag!
Sam
if it were of any interest I would be glad to answer any further questions
br
winkel
Good to see you around again Winkel.
Have you been working on any new ideas for roulette?
Hope you might release some ideas in the testing zone.
Would be fun.
Do you know anything about this method? Any insights?
link:://:.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&topic=365&forum=Roulette_Archive (link:://:.gamblersglen.com/cgi-bin/teemz/teemz.cgi?board=_master&action=opentopic&topic=365&forum=Roulette_Archive)
Hi all,
Just to let you know, there is a new tracker for this method.
It's a window version equiped with a clicker.
Link: : betselection cc/norcosoft/gut-tracker-ew-clicker-for-european-wheel/
replace the 2 space before and after betselection with a dot, could not paste the link?
br, nOrMy2o0o
Quote from: Normy2000 on Nov 27, 08:00 PM 2012
Hi all,
Just to let you know, there is a new tracker for this method.
It's a window version equiped with a clicker.
Link: link:://bets.cc/norcosoft/gut-tracker-ew-clicker-for-european-wheel/ (link:://bets.cc/norcosoft/gut-tracker-ew-clicker-for-european-wheel/)
br, nOrMy2o0o
Is the website included?
sorry furple,
i'm trying to write b e t s e l e c t i o n . c c but i can't? don't know why? :yawn:
so use the picture???
[attachimg=1]
br,
hey TCS, if you read this
thanks for the explanation, I get it now
please come back lol
Rich
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Oct 30, 09:21 PM 2012
Do you want to know? If so, ask a question. I'll answer.
Sam
-Sam
OK I'll ask.... and yes I have spent a lot of time looking for this.
Only one question
WHERE THE HELL CAN I FIND THE GUT PAPER TRACKER??????
Sorry about the shouting.
By the way all of the work, time, and effort Winkel and you have put into GUT is more than appreciated by a lot of people including me that know that it will work.
In the last 24 hours I have made over $500 with this betting method and have never risked more than $100 a session.
I have done 5 sessions with it and kept hearing about a GUT Paper Tracker but I cannot find it here or on the VLS forum anywhere.
Can you please send the attachment or provide a link to it's location.
Thank You
-Celtic
Why dont you use my tracker. It include a clicker to place your bet quickly and it is totaly free. :question:
link:://betselection.cc/norcosoft/gut-tracker-ew-clicker-for-european-wheel/
Mods: Sorry for the link. Remove if not ok. ;)
-Normy
Thank you for the link but I am looking for the paper version of the GUT Tracker that has been mentioned several times.
Right now I only play in a B&M casino that is only minutes from my house.
-Celtic
Celts
Go to testing zone Holy grail by winkel started by azim, go to reply 419, the paper tracker, go forward you'll see posted sheets.
Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 14, 02:55 AM 2016
Celts
Go to testing zone Holy grail by winkel started by azim, go to reply 419, the paper tracker, go forward you'll see posted sheets.
-notto
Got it.
Thank You.
-Celtic
Heres a good video on GUT