Hello everyone,
Here's my new system. Here are the rules and as ever, all questions, testing and criticisms are most welcome!
First I will highlight with numbers.
Our trigger to bet is when any two consecutive spins have 2 and only 2 matching EC. Doesn't matter which EC
So:
Wait for any spin to occur
29 or in other words Black, High, Odd or in other words BHO
20 Ah ha! A trigger because 29 and 20 have 2 matching EC's, the High and the Black.
Here is another example:
14 RLE
12 This is not a trigger because they have 3 matching EC'S
30 This is a trigger because they have RED and EVEN
I hope you understand the trigger.
Now the bet is to attack the two opposite EC than the two trigger EC's.
Confused?
Here's an example using the above numbers
12
30 Trigger. Now bet BLACK and ODD
That is it!!
Use mild progression if you please or short marty 1,2,4 or try flat bet.
My tests have shown this to be a strong selection.
Cheers
Buffalo
Here is a very short run of play from todays wiesbaden table 2,
just so you know what I'm on about!
29
22 trigger on H and B, bet LR
16 WIN
13
11
3 trigger on L and O bet HE
29 DRAW
11
14
4 trigger on L and E bet HO
31 WIN
14
9 trigger on L and R bet HB
22 WIN
24
35 trigger on H and B bet LR
9 WIN
BW
I like these types of bets. They try to attack a temporary imbalance.
Look up 2 ideas i had. "Playing roulette like blackjack" and "streaks and toggles". Very similar
Turner
Hi turner,
Thanks for bringing those to my attention - its always interesting to compare similar systems. I like these types also, frequent, easy to spot bets. This doesn't rely on streaks, rather a break in two matching EC spins. I will commit to further tests.
BW
i just did a hundred spins it does look pretty strong
29
22 trigger on H and B, bet LR
16 WIN
13
11
3 trigger on L and O bet HE
29 DRAW
11 isn't this a trigger? bet RE?
14 WIN?
4 trigger on L and E bet HO
31 WIN
14
9 trigger on L and R bet HB
22 WIN
24
35 trigger on H and B bet LR
9 WIN
Given the choice I would have taken the results from Wiesbaden rather than the ones fromSmartLiveCasino.
Some ofSLCasino presenters way of dropping the ball might best be describes as atrocious. No vigor in the spin.
If those ladies act like that in bed I am beginning to wonder .............................
buffalowizard, how many spins do you recommend playing after the trigger appears?
The random card I grabbed is showing a hit usually within 4 spins.
Just curious what your experience has been.
Thanks for sharing.
I did some more spins i think your better off playing once after the event if draw play against once--on a loss progress onto the next event....havent gone past 3 that way,,, playing straight to a win ive had a couple go 6 steps....
more testing will tell I guess
Hi guys,
Skakus, I choose to start over after a win,draw or loss and not use the previous number as a trigger if you get my drift?
I only play for one hit - win lose or draw, don't go chasing it. Find a new trigger once you have won, lost or drawn prior game.
Best played flat bet in my opinion so you can set pretty simple cut off points.
Post me some 30 spin samples, as this is enough for a nice short session and I will break them down.
BW
00 Wheel
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Here you go Buffalo...
Quote from: VegasArick on Nov 06, 07:37 PM 2012
Thanks Vegas. Here goes
Remember this is flat betting
00 Wheel
6
13 trigger bet HR
25 WIN +2
18
18
0
3
17 trigger bet HE
19 DRAW +2
19
0
30
3
26
33 trigger bet LR
36 DRAW +2
35
11 trigger bet RE
15 LOSS 0
36
7
35
29
0
31
36
10
29
15 trigger bet RE
29 LOSS -2
17
I'll accept that small loss there and into the next!
BW
Thumps up from me! Slow but steady gains with this system. Playing with a progression will produce huge downfalls but if played correctly they will stop nothing!
This will be a fun way to play @ casinos with 4 or 5 tables.
Just walking around monitoring and placing a bet on the trigger for 1 spin.
Excellent conservative and well controlled bet selection. No sweat 8)
Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!
I really like the hit and run approach or incorporating it into a game plan
Quote from: Tamino on Nov 08, 03:56 PM 2012
Excellent conservative and well controlled bet selection. No sweat 8)
Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!
Well, that's my cue to give it a try. Even the slightest nod of approval from N.D. is something to be cherished. Wiz, you may join the ranks of the few and the proud!
Sam
Sam,
This strategy requires patience as it limits the exposure of your bankroll against the casinos edge. Just follow the rules as per instructions.
Make a copy of about 6 examples for quick reference . Here is a sample of three 29/22 bet LR, 11/3 bet HE ,12/30 be B O.
I praticed this strategy at the SmartLive UK casino. Live dealer/wheel.
N.D.
N.D.
I wasn't being a smart arse; I was serious. There are three or four people on these forums whose positive nods I respect. You're one of them.
Sam
Sam,
Thanks.
N.D.
P.S.******** all games of luck play at your own risk.*********
Hats off to YOU Bwiz.
Simple system.....win....lose.....draw.....beats Soccer betting anyday !
Thank You in advance for the £5 chip profit's to come.
Cheers.
Dino.
Thanks for the positive feedback guys. Hope its lucky for you. Let us know your results
BW
You got it Bwiz..........starting tonight !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK,here's that session.
14 R L E
36 R H E T
22 B H E T W
16 R L E W
30 R H E T
17 B L O W
9 R L O T
28 B H E W
35 B H O T
8 B L E D
5 R L O
31 B H O
7 R L O
18 R L E T
17 B L O W
6 B L E T
26 B H E T D
10 B L E T L
15 B L O T D
10 B L E T L
10 B L E T L
20 B H E T W
30 R H E T W
2 B L E W
10 B L E
26 B H E T
30 R H E T W
15 B L O W
26 B H E
18 R L E
18 R L E
22 B H E
28 B H E
2 B L E T
1 R L O W
34 B H E
12 R L E
24 B H E
24 B H E
10 B L E T
26 B H E T L
2 B L E T L
24 B H E T L
30 R H E T W
26 B H E T L
1 R L O W
31 B H O
23 R H O T
5 R L O T W
32 R H E D
30 R H E
16 R L E T
26 B H E W
6 B L E T
14 R L E T W
4 B L E T L
5 R L O D
16 R L E T
13 B L O W
4 B L E T
7 R L O W
26 B H E
14 R L E
Long session,just to see what happened,Live Dealer B+M.
Have added this concept to my portfolio.
Many Thanks Bwiz.
Dino.
No worries dino
Thanks for testing, a good session there. It's definitely one of my better ones. Not bad to have in your arsenal,
Cheers
BW
Ive been trying this in a real casino also--nice slow$ maker so far
THANKS
Tom
Let's review the rules: When exactly two same ECs appear from the last two spins, bet the opposite of those two ECs. So you bet two ECs every time you bet.
Now to dino's post:
14 R L E
36 R H E T
22 B H E T W
The red/even triggers a bet on black/odd. Am I wrong? When 22 comes it only produces black and not odd. This would be a draw, would it not?
Where am I going wrong?
TCS
EDIT: I am going by this example in the first post:
12 LRE
30 HRE
Buff says to bet black/odd.
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Nov 13, 01:50 PM 2012
Let's review the rules: When exactly two same ECs appear from the last two spins, bet the opposite of those two ECs. So you bet two ECs every time you bet.
Now to dino's post:
14 R L E
36 R H E T
22 B H E T W
The red/even triggers a bet on black/odd. Am I wrong? When 22 comes it only produces black and not odd. This would be a draw, would it not?
Where am I going wrong?
TCS
Don't worry Sam, you haven't lost your marbles yet. You are 100% correct, I didn't spot that little error.
Quote from: Tomla021 on Nov 13, 01:49 PM 2012
I've been trying this in a real casino also--nice slow$ maker so far
THANKS
Tom
Good on ya tomla!
Don't worry Sam, you haven't lost your marbles yet.
I caught that!!
Hi Sam.
As far as i see it,STOP at the first winner.
B beats two RR.
Hey Bwiz....THAT'S NEWS TO ME......
There are two error's in that session of mine !
I make it - 6 the original way and + 1 my way !!!!
Flat bet of course !!
Quote from: dino246 on Nov 13, 02:36 PM 2012
There are two error's in that session of mine !
I make it - 6 the original way and + 1 my way !!!!
Flat bet of course !!
That's cool dino,
I've said from the outset that tweaks etc are most welcome, we're all in this together!
Thanks for your understanding Bwiz.
Would be interesting to compare both version's of your concept utilising your suggested 1,2,4, progression idea,to find out which made the most Profit.
Cheers.
Dino.
Bwiz
Would you nail this down? I intend to try it Thursday. As I see it, you are always betting two ECs together. Am I right?
Sam
Sam,
I think dino has reversed my original bet which may work better who knows?
You got the original spot on
Wait for 2 spins with 2 equal ECs
2
13
Both are black both are low. So next bet is red and high. Then after a result, retrack. Dino gets his triggers straight from prior result, but my voodoo senses tell me not to do this
Hope this helps
Thank you, kind wiz. I'll play this for quarters at Riverwind Thursday.
I will be running some more tests of this as I think I was too hasty to move on from it - a common flaw of mine. I will be using 5000 thomas grant spins
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Note the consistency here....therefore Discipline and Patience are key as ND has said
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Hey Buff,
here is a little tracker , have a look and enjoy.
Its flatbetting only.
Have a great Day,
Ray
Thanks a lot Ray - much appreciated
Happy Christmas !
For some reason, my computer can't read the tracker and it won't open. I see it's been downloaded 34 times though if others out there could share some tests/results?
I will continue with the thomas grant 5000
BW
Continuing from where I left off:
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15 +2
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31 +2
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26 +2
24
36
16 +2
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29 +4
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16 +6
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25 +10
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hi,
I used to play this both ways at once. . However I would use all three the same or all 3 opposite. Less bets,but did quite well at it.
Test Wiesbaden tisch 3 08-09-2012
384 spins final profit +8
Maximum profit +16, maximum loss -2
seems very consistent
Thanks
Hi Buff,
did you get the tracker running ?
What is "thomas grant 5000"
Are theese 5000 numbers ?
Do you have them as txt file?
Ray
Just wondering what you guys would do as far as a progression with this. So far I have been playing a progression when and only when a bet loses on both. Once that happens, I wait for it to trigger to those same bets down the road and start the progression. For example:
24
2
10 ---- this would be a double loss on RED and ODD so then I would wait for a trigger to bet either of them and progress.
5
26
4 ---- this is a trigger to bet RED and ODD again and because I had a double loss once before betting this exact trigger, I would double up my bet or you could use a step progression
What do you guys think? What would you do? Thanks
Using my method over 500 spins, I took a $24 free cash at 21Nova and turned it into $862. Very promising.