Foreward: I saved this on the hard drive before Victor's RouletteStudy site went down.
Mr J--"I kept track of the last 23 numbers that hit. I bet only ONE number per spin ($100 per bet, $3,500 per win), I bet the number with the most hits on it, TEMPORARILY hot.
NOT hot over 400 spins, rather in the present, HOT. I would switch my bet as a new hot number took its place. What about a tie Ken? Yep, maybe two different numbers had 4 hits on it. The number I would bet would be the one to LAST drop off of the last 23 hit. It does not make a huge difference but I insist on having a RULE for all 'what ifs'. This method took a little over 7 hours to play. Its *VERY* boring but in my opinion, worth it. I did play this again and netted 4K (5 hours est.)"
Thanks for saving it.
I play a few of Mr.J's method's with some success but I'd forgotten this one.
It is, I remember, especially boring, but I might give it another go.
Trebor
Proofreader ,
How much were your losses to date ?
I have yet to meet a person who became wealthy from gambling but I know more wealthy people who gamble for recreational purposes.
N.D.
Proof...in your first post was that the complete rules of play or were there modifications after the original post?
If a method is profitable... boring seems kinda irrelevant to me. Business is business and sometimes business is exciting and sometimes it's a grind...That's just the way it is whether it's roulette or most anything else that has any degree of variety...that's the way it seems like to me anyway.
I think most methods that use a small number of inside bets generally end up in the plus and I like alot of what Mr J posts. You just have to have the nerve to play out the progression and take it on the chin from time to time. We're playing at 35:1...a pretty hefty progression can be played and still let you walk out of the casino with a profit. The key is to have the discipline to not start making a bunch of other bets out of boredom and start low enough to carry the progression through to fruition.
I personally can't start a progression, if that's how this method plays, at $100 but I'm looking forward to the day (hopefully pretty soon) when my bankroll does allow it.
The thread didn't have a full explanation of the system (I am assuming there was more to it regarding money management / progressions or other tweaks or other elaborations) so it alluded to this possibly being a flat bet...I just assumed there was a progression based on personal play of methods that utilize a small number of inside bets coupled with the fact that historically alot of MrJ's systems have some pretty long progressions and if you're starting with $100 units you aren't likely to let a flat bet take you down the tubes when you have the opportunity to stretch it out for a win (even if it opens you up to a total loss...no pain no gain theory)
As far as I know Mr.J mostly flat bets these days, including if I remember right, this method.
Trebor
Trebor,
Quite possible I know I've seen a couple flat sytems from him. I think the ones that stuck in my mind had long progressions. Maybe he will chime in and give us some insight as to what's working for him these days.
Proof...in your first post was that the complete rules of play or were there modifications after the original post?--RouletteKEY
Yes those are the complete rules.
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How much were your losses to date?--Nathan Detroit
Four and a half years ago when I first started I was down $3000,
now I'd say I'm up about $700.
I agree with one thing here... the less numbers you bet, the better... why? Very simple, look at this example:
Play 1 number flat bet for 35 spins, you have 35*1/37 chances of hitting, with a profit ranging from 1 unit to 35 units (average of 17 more or less). If you lose, you lose 35 units.
Play 35 numbers for 1 spin, you have 35/37 chances of winning (the same as above), but you will only win 1 unit if you win(less then above), and lose 35 if you loose(the same as above).
hi, I'm playing this different.
Track last 18 spins and bet on numbers witch repeated. I think i saw this idea from Mr J too.. FLAT BET
so, live session dublin:
(link:://i.imgur.com/iJv2csc.png)
"I agree with one thing here... the less numbers you bet, the better" >>> Very true, I wish more people understood this. What I won't do.......is to PUSH IT DOWN members throats, just not my way I guess.
I state it, then I leave it alone. Everyone has their own style of betting and should NOT be pressured from others. My view does not mean I'm correct. :thumbsup:
Ken
i think i posted mr j 8 train method before but here it is again...different settings on the sheet...prob not what u want but they work on the bot :thumbsup:
thank you 6th-sense
what is the difference between this sheets?
off the top of my head i think its the amount of numbers selected plus a couple of other features...i can,t possibly open them up at moment to check as i,m running a sheet on the bot and i can,t cut that off...or let anything interfere with it...but if you check yourself one against the other you should see differences..i,m sure one is for 4 numbers...the other for more...and remember there is a flat bet and a 1 up on a hit tab...sure theres other stiff in there too...like how many max hits you want to stop at...and min hits to start betting...maybe more stuff too...it should all be there in the top of the sheets..
Quote from: biagle on Feb 18, 02:42 PM 2014
hi, I'm playing this different.
Track last 18 spins and bet on numbers witch repeated. I think i saw this idea from Mr J too.. FLAT BET
so, live session dublin:
(link:://i.imgur.com/iJv2csc.png)
This is Ball24 in RX. Set to 18 and rolling
Ball 24 only tracks numbers that have hit 2 times and removes them on a hit
This line controls that
52 if record "wheel" data =2
if you want to track all hits you will have to change this line to:
52 if record "wheel" data >1
is this system working for you guys? thinking of making a tracker for it, although i`ve seen so many hot number systems fail in the long run (>100k random spins)
regards,
alex
Quote from: Turner on Feb 21, 04:37 PM 2014
This is Ball24 in RX. Set to 18 and rolling
Ball 24 only tracks numbers that have hit 2 times and removes them on a hit
This line controls that
52 if record "wheel" data =2
if you want to track all hits you will have to change this line to:
52 if record "wheel" data >1
no need for rx, i know what the graph will show. Im playing this for few spins - no hit - ok, hit - ok too:)
Biagle:
"Track last 18 spins and bet on numbers witch repeated. I think i saw this idea from Mr J too.. FLAT BET"
I think this is a great tactic, track 18 spins, bet the hot numbers for the next 18 spins.
Shouldn't be many.
If not enough hit, play the hot numbers in the last 18 spins etc.
i only want one thing to try it with slow progression, witch takes recovery with few hits when you are down. But i dont have mone y to order the tracker/sheet. So im just playing it with 0.1 :yawn: