One of the most simple and unintelligent (?) systems I posted so far! ;D LoL
You're getting used to it! :P
Flatbetting 100 unit bets for half an hour +1700 on the live-wheel.
Always bet on the last dozen & last column hit
It's very slow method perhaps? Double-dozen bets don't give much profit. Anyway..
Why it works? If not the dozen repeat, the column will.
Double-dozen progression is always tricky...Not sure I found one good progression yet?... Add one unit for each loss and play with that amount until recovery I think it's the best progression?...Flatbetting works also obviously. But much slower...
Just say that your +17 otherwise it appears you have found some kind of grail
Good luck to ya
It's easy to bet 200u a pop when its funny money! ;) Three losses in a row and that's 600u gone, too rich for my blood :o
I do actually think this is one of the most sensible systems you have posted though! I've tried it many times. I found it too much of a grind as a double dozen though, as without crazy progressions, I found it a real slog. I'm now testing something similar, but it's not a double dozen.
Good luck mate.
Cheers
Roughy
Thanks Roughy. It was just an idea I had. Although it works, I think it's too slow method for me.
U should get a award: Most creative member of this forum in November!
Can someone tell me what's slow about this method? Aren't you betting every spin?
And 17 units in half an hour isn't too bad right?
Perhaps so BW :) But a doubledozen bet gives only 1 unit profit for each win. If both column and dozen hit that would be 2 units?.. Perhaps it would work, but without progression it's very slow...
BW
By slow I mean slow to make a profit, not to play. Yes it's great if a dozen or column goes on a streak, or better still if they both repeat and you get a double win! :)
But if you get a choppy dealer it can become a case of one step forward two steps back and is a grind to get out of a hole. I suspect it could improve with a gentle progression but normal double dozen progressions scare me! I may revisit it with something like Lanky's progression or Flat's
+2/-1.
Cheers
Roughy
PLEASSSE use the notepad. You post every method you can think of there must be about 30 on here if members think its worthwhile you can move it here. Its like you test once say you won 10000 then say you lost and then post the next thing! Try a system for a while then we won't have to see 5 "none" threads!
Yes Juiced91....... I will.... but I'm learning. And hopefully this forum is for sharing and testing ideas? Now, stop complaining and try posting something yourself instead? Or are you afraid of making mistakes etc?...
Ive used RX for the past year and have coded almost every idea i can think of and many ideas members have posted and or asked me to code. And none worked, well none worked to the standard i would of liked for me to play them. So i dont have anything useful to post if i did i would post it. Maybe you should do the same.
QuoteAnd hopefully this forum is for sharing and testing ideas?
It is mate, so, search is your friend, try searching the archives, almost everything you are trying has been done before, you should study the past posts/threads, it will help you and save you a lot of time.
Look what I found: :.freewebs.com/turbogenius/possibleholygrail.htm (link:://:.freewebs.com/turbogenius/possibleholygrail.htm) ???!!
Guys he's just a blatant wind up merchant. Don't feed it anymore.
He ignores everything, so offer nothing
Quote from: buffalowizard on Nov 21, 04:40 PM 2012
Guys he's just a blatant wind up merchant. Don't feed it anymore.
He ignores everything, so offer nothing
Why you say that? I'm trying to learn BW? :/
What you mean offer nothing?? Although my systems may be primitive, they work ?? Well. Some of them atleast. :/ You don't believe me now playing
6 Street Repeater i won +900 units ?! Come up with a working system you invented yourself instead. Start posting? Don't understand this attitude. >:(
Quote from: ignatus on Nov 21, 04:50 PM 2012
Why you say that? I'm trying to learn BW? :/
What you mean offer nothing?? Although my systems may be primitive, they work ?? Well. Some of them atleast. :/ You don't believe me now playing 6 Street Repeater i won +900 units ?! Come up with a working system you invented yourself instead. Start posting? Don't understand this attitude. >:(
Ignatus, you made my last few days :thumbsup:
Tina Turner-Simply the best (official video) (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=ra12L1Bl0Z4#)
:twisted:
Jointu ;D Thanks
...here is a small excel sheet to see how your numbers perform.
Ray
That wasn't so bad! ;D Atleast a positive trend! Would be interesting to see a longer session. (With progression it would work better perhaps? +2 units at loss -1 at win that was suggested?) I never tried that .
Thanks rayhd63 :)
My fast test of this system:
1st session live @betfair (61 spins) -19 units
2nd session live @betfair (62 spins) -17 units
Holy f**k? Didn't know how good this method was? :ooh: Playing myself up to +1000 units with 25 unit bets....... easy. I could recover from a long bad streak thanks to the +2 loss, -1 win-progression :)
This is how I play:
Use progression +2 units at loss, -1 at win; Until A Double Hit. Then Reset to 1-1.
Thanks rayhd63 for the inspiration!
Thanks Roughy for the progression!
Ignatus,
that's what the forum is for, giving thoughts and inspirations. And who knows that might add up to some Winn's !!!
Ray
Quote from: ignatus on Nov 21, 01:27 PM 2012
Thanks Roughy. It was just an idea I had. Although it works, I think it's too slow method for me.
You think this is a slow method, with all those numbers? Try betting a couple numbers for 7 hours, you'll know what boring is then.
Ken
If the dozen doesn't hit, the column will............
If the column doesn't hit the dozen will............
You said something like that. Music is so loud I can't think.
Are you 100% sure that statement is true?
If you bet dozen 1 and column a........what's to keep dozen 2 and column b from hitting?
I'm lost in a fog.........
Sam
Just read your initial post again.
I don't mean to be overly critical, but do you ever look at a layout before you make such statements?
I believe you're throwing stuff against the wall to see if anything sticks.
And just because you win with play money for a trot or two, don't think it won't turn and bite you hard! It will.
Have you thought of opening your own forum?
Sam
Sam. I'm not saying it's the worlds best system, but it works? With +2/-1 progression as Roughy suggested? Two sessions played now +200 & +500. (first one with 5 units bet, the other with 10 unit bet) Think you shoud try playing before coming with cirtical statements? :/
Last session after two doublehits I was +500. And that was playing for 5min.
Quote from: Smoczoor on Nov 21, 06:23 PM 2012
My fast test of this system:
1st session live @betfair (61 spins) -19 units
2nd session live @betfair (62 spins) -17 units
Did you use +2/-1 progression or just flatbetting?
Quote from: ignatus on Nov 21, 03:04 PM 2012
Yes Juiced91....... I will.... but I'm learning. And hopefully this forum is for sharing and testing ideas? Now, stop complaining and try posting something yourself instead? Or are you afraid of making mistakes etc?...
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ignatus...the fact a members is not posting ideas does not nullify their remarks about your systems....i for one would be grateful if you’d just stop posting so many one after the other....which btw, are all very immature...if you truly want to learn, then step back for some time and try doing some reading, specially older posts... not being antagonist...just some friendly remarks
Vundarosa
Quote from: vundarosa on Nov 22, 03:15 AM 2012
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ignatus...the fact a members is not posting ideas does not nullify their remarks about your systems....i for one would be grateful if you’d just stop posting so many one after the other....which by the way, are all very immature...if you truly want to learn, then step back for some time and try doing some reading, specially older posts... not being antagonist...just some friendly remarks
Vundarosa
I don't post any system if I don't play it and win? Then you can argue is bad in the long run etc... that's why I needed the feedback..... Sometimes I regret posting something, yes? And I have a bad conscience for that... :/ I will try post less. I can understand your disapointment, if you been on this forum for several years, and are used to more experienced members posting advanced strategies. Still im learning... :(
Quote from: ignatus on Nov 22, 03:27 AM 2012
I don't post any system if I don't play it and win? Then you can argue is bad in the long run etc... that's why I needed the feedback..... Sometimes I regret posting something, yes? And I have a bad conscience for that... :/ I will try post less. I can understand your disapointment, if you been on this forum for several years, and are used to more experienced members posting advanced strategies. Still I'm learning... :(
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nothing wrong with winning and not posting you know....do some extensive testing yourself then if after that you believe it has legs to walk then post it...donwload some old actual spins files, test your systems against them....some 1000 placed bets would be a good place to start and see how far you can go with it
asking questions rather than posting system after system is also a way of learning....
before posting a "new" system, do some research to see if something similar has been tried....
vundarosa
ok
QuoteDid you use +2/-1 progression or just flatbetting?
Results with excel tracker made by rayhd63
Quote from: ignatus on Nov 21, 07:01 PM 2012
Thanks Roughy for the progression!
I can't take credit for this, it was suggested to me by Flat.
Cheers
Roughy
Why it works? If not the dozen repeat, the column will.
ignatus
I'm not being critical at all. I'm asking you to back up that statement you made in your initial post. What you are saying is you have a guaranteed winner. If not on the dozen, then the column. This just isn't so.
It is quite easy to go on any site or use any permanence and make the statements you do. It is quite a different thing to do it for real.
If you want to impress anyone, go to a real on-line casino and make us a movie showing yourself using $5 bets and winning $1,000.
All of us know you can shop for a trot from any permanence and find one that fits your needs. Also, testing for 1,000 spins or so is nothing. You have dodged the devil. You won't do it for long and then you'll understand.
You say you will soon have some real money to throw at your systems. You better check them long and hard.
Your intuitive is appreciated, but attacking me for pointing out the obvious flaw in your thinking is childish.
Sam
Thanks Sam. Yes, it's not the world's best system! Agreed. But playing with +2 loss/-1 win - progression makes things alot easier. I won 4 times in a row testing... (It's also good system that can recover from long losing streaks) for an example: I was playing with 11-11 bet then got a double hit...that made my bankroll positive so I restet to 1-1......
17 units / 11 spins. 1,2,3 neg progression
Cant say i. A fan