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This investigation is about how common or rare it is that one dice repeat one side twice and after that fall back to back.
The dice we deal with has eight sides.

(link:://i47.tinypic.com/2mcx9go.png)

To get the same situation using even money bets we clustering them into three.
That give as a total of eight patterns with the same probability as the dice above.

1. RRR
2. BBB
3. RBR
4. BRB
5. RRB
6. BBR
7. RBB
8. BRR

Next we are going to observe how the tram of hits flow between does sequential repeats.
Pretty easy and effective bet selection.

EGO - I'm confused with your dice ? All I see is a 4 sided pyramid & a base = 5 surfaces.
Are these dice actually on sale?

Are the dice weighted so that they always land on their bases?

Where do you read the valid number then? On a normal cube dice any 2 of the opposite sides add up to 7. ie 1 + 6, 2 + 5 & 3 + 4. The valid number is the one at the top, as we all know.

The numbers shown are x1 = 1, 4, 7 & 8. 7 may also be unsighted on the rhs dice ?  x2 = 2, 3 & 6.
So nothing adds up equally?

We are a long way off April Fools day, although "The End Of Days" has just passed ?

Agree on the 8 patterns, although this has been discussed on other threads but minus the dice aspect. 

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Well in our minds a dice could have any amount of sides and we can divide probability into any numbers we would like to deal with.
There is nothing prevent us from doing just that.

I think I'll pass on your mind games stuff EGO I like to work with realities.

Ego, could you show some visual examples please.

Ego,

   Perhaps this would work better with these dice!

   AD (Andy)

(link:s://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2f5h1JxBWZ4/UNXAAaChAZI/AAAAAAAAKkg/XMMxS_N9p0Y/s800/Craps-AD%2520Dice-2.jpg)

To clarify, those actually are fair, 8-sided die.  The picture isn't quite clear, but the dice are actual non-biased specialty dice that are fairly available in game shops and the like.  Don't be confused by the presence of the 8-sided die, although I'm not sure what the point Ego is trying to make.  He does have a valid point though: RRR is a 1-in-8 chance (1/2^3)  just as is hitting a 2 or a 6 on his special dice.  How he is applying it, I have no clue, but he is right about the dice.  Just wish I knew what his point actually is.

Random.org 23.12.2012

4
7
7	REPEAT	7
2
4
4	REPEAT	4
7
3		7	w
7
2
7
3
2
1
2
6
6	REPEAT	6
1
4
2		4	w
8
8	REPEAT	8
8	REPEAT	8
5		8	w
2
7
2
5
1
4
1
8
3
5
5	REPEAT	5
2
1
1	REPEAT	1
4
4	REPEAT	4
2
3
4
1		4	w
6		1	w
3		6	w
8
6
2
8
4
7
7	REPEAT	7
5
3		5	w
3	REPEAT	3
7
7	REPEAT	7	L
4
1
6
6	REPEAT	6
7
4		7	w
5
3
8		3	W
1
7
3
2
2	REPEAT	2
3
5
6
8		6	w
6
6	REPEAT	6
6	REPEAT	6
2		6	w
3		2	w
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On Random.org 23.12.2012
10000 random integers between 1 and 8, there where 25 series >=4


Random.org 22.12.2012
30


Random.org 21.12.2012
25


Random.org 20.12.2012
24


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As i state in the first post, if you get one repeat, then you just wait for the repeats to end.
Then you observe for how long it takes for the same side of the dice to repeat again.

You get very long positive tram hitting that way.
Where that repeat event does not fall back to back, pretty rare.

The question is if you would ride and capitalize on all does hits or just play to win once.

My opinion is that if EITHER way, everything will balance out.
>:D


Random.org 20.12.2012 (300 spins)



Ridding All Hits


WWL
L
WL
WWWWWWWWWWWL
L
WWL
WL
WWWWWL




PLay to Win Once



WLWWLWWW

Alberto

Can't figure out what you're betting on.

If you have

HHH
HHH

What do you bet on?

Sam

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Dec 23, 08:47 AM 2012
Alberto

Can't figure out what you're betting on.

If you have

HHH
HHH

What do you bet on?

Sam

I bet against HHH as soon as any other of the 7 possible patterns show up.
It is a dice with 8 sides.


1. RRR
2. BBB
3. RBR
4. BRB
5. RRB
6. BBR
7. RBB
8. BRR


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Random.org 21.12.2012

Ridding All Hits

WWL
WWL
WL
L
WWWWL
WWWL
WL
WWL
L
WL

PLay to Win Once
WWWLWWWWLW
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Note: Each L represents one pattern of three repeating so LLL.

Alberto

Yes, I understand the goofy dice!

I was trying to see what you were doing in relation to roulette.  You've explained it perfectly!

Thanks.

Sam

Random.org 24.12.2012

Ridding All Hits


:wwl
l
::l
:l
:wwl
:wl


PLay to Win Once
WLWWWW

Quote from: ego on Dec 22, 02:33 AM 2012
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This investigation is about how common or rare it is that one dice repeat one side twice and after that fall back to back.

My conclusion is that is common.

I get better results playing to win once, disregarding colors - a dice with 4 sides. However nothing amazing. We've looked into it before.


Random.org 24.12.2012 (300 spins)



::wwl
:l
wl
l
:wl
:::l
wwl
wl
wl
wl
wl
::::l
l
wl
wl
wwl
::ww


Play to Win Once.



w
w
w
l
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
w
l
w
w
w
w

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I have also been experimenting with four side dice.
And i am not sure A and me do the things in the same way.